How got deal with an angry cap moon guy?

Hi everyone. So my close friend is a sag sun, cap moon guy.
He's been acting funny and I asked him what's wrong? He said he's facing lots of problems at work and uni. After 2 days I texted him to see if he's ok and he said I'm sorry but I can't talk now and I want some time alone and I'll explain what happened later. And I respect that and since then I didn't text him to give him his own space and freedom although I do worry sometimes.
It's been about 3 days now.
Today he texted a short message saying happy new year and hope your life is successful. And I texted back happy new year and asked him hope your feeling better now? But he didn't reply till now.
I guess he still wants to stay in his isolated bubble?? My question is there any cap moon people who Can relate? Like how can people get you to leave your isolated bubble sooner? And how can we get them to open up and express themselves?
I told him many times that I'm here for him to listen and support him. I always have supported him.
But He tends to isolate himself when he's not in the mood. He's also the kinda person that interrupts me a lot when we speak face to face and he talks a lottttttt. I dunno if that's from his sag sun or cap moon though. But I wish I could tell him to like give others a chance to speak...the reason why I'm patient cuz I enjoy being around him and I like him a lot but interrupting people as they speak all the time is just not a very positive trait and I don't know if It's worth bringing it up or should I just accept it?

In addition, I noticed that hes too sensitive to what I say. Sometimes if I'm upset I could say something a little crazy but I clearly don't mean it. But he takes it like a huge deal and over exggerates it. I've told other guys worse things but he's just too sensitive. Sometimes I don't even say somethin mean but to him it's like sooooo offensive. I think once I told him "shush I don't Wana talk about this crap" and he took it so deeply like how could you tell me to shush.
It's not a big deal!
I have to apologise for like 3 days straight to get him to come back to normal. He takes ages to forget a problem or an argument. It literally takes me 20 minutes to get over my anger sometimes less. And I'm all ok Witt u again.
Are there other sensitive cap moons out there? And how to deal with your sensitivity and anger?

Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

Posted by sultrykitty
Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

No no it's not that I don't Wana hear him it's just that we were having an argument about something silly and I didn't Wana have the argument anymore cuz it was getting me extremely angry so I said shush I don't Wana continue the argument. im the friend that always listens to his problems and supports him all the way. I never push him if he's not ready to talk either. He says he feels very comfortable talking to me. But I do worry when he hides in his bubble sometimes I'm like did i do something wrong?

Do u cap moons ever talk about what got u in that bubble after ur done with ur hiding phase? Or would u rather keep it to yourself? Cuz I don't Wana be pushy and keep asking him what's wrong

Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

Posted by Nouran20
Hi everyone. So my close friend is a sag sun, cap moon guy.
He's been acting funny and I asked him what's wrong? He said he's facing lots of problems at work and uni. After 2 days I texted him to see if he's ok and he said I'm sorry but I can't talk now and I want some time alone and I'll explain what happened later. And I respect that and since then I didn't text him to give him his own space and freedom although I do worry sometimes.
It's been about 3 days now.
Today he texted a short message saying happy new year and hope your life is successful. And I texted back happy new year and asked him hope your feeling better now? But he didn't reply till now.
I guess he still wants to stay in his isolated bubble?? My question is there any cap moon people who Can relate? Like how can people get you to leave your isolated bubble sooner? And how can we get them to open up and express themselves?
I told him many times that I'm here for him to listen and support him. I always have supported him.
But He tends to isolate himself when he's not in the mood. He's also the kinda person that interrupts me a lot when we speak face to face and he talks a lottttttt. I dunno if that's from his sag sun or cap moon though. But I wish I could tell him to like give others a chance to speak...the reason why I'm patient cuz I enjoy being around him and I like him a lot but interrupting people as they speak all the time is just not a very positive trait and I don't know if It's worth bringing it up or should I just accept it?

Nothing you can do. We'll climb out of that bubble when we're ready - once we've analyzed and made a plan. Force it and we'll push you further away.

Posted by Nouran20
In addition, I noticed that hes too sensitive to what I say. Sometimes if I'm upset I could say something a little crazy but I clearly don't mean it. But he takes it like a huge deal and over exggerates it. I've told other guys worse things but he's just too sensitive. Sometimes I don't even say somethin mean but to him it's like sooooo offensive. I think once I told him "shush I don't Wana talk about this crap" and he took it so deeply like how could you tell me to shush.
It's not a big deal!
I have to apologise for like 3 days straight to get him to come back to normal. He takes ages to forget a problem or an argument. It literally takes me 20 minutes to get over my anger sometimes less. And I'm all ok Witt u again.
Are there other sensitive cap moons out there? And how to deal with your sensitivity and anger?

Cap moons are strong. Very strong. We come across as if we have no feelings at all, But we can be sensitive, more so when it comes from someone we're close to.

Posted by sultrykitty
Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

Agree 100% .

Posted by Nouran20

Posted by sultrykitty
Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

No no it's not that I don't Wana hear him it's just that we were having an argument about something silly and I didn't Wana have the argument anymore cuz it was getting me extremely angry so I said shush I don't Wana continue the argument. im the friend that always listens to his problems and supports him all the way. I never push him if he's not ready to talk either. He says he feels very comfortable talking to me. But I do worry when he hides in his bubble sometimes I'm like did i do something wrong?

Do u cap moons ever talk about what got u in that bubble after ur done with ur hiding phase? Or would u rather keep it to yourself? Cuz I don't Wana be pushy and keep asking him what's wrong

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No, I don't even know why I go into that bubble, so how could I talk about it. And if I were wanting to talk about it, I probably wouldn't with someone who has shushed me before. You didn't want to hear it then, why do you want to hear it now? See, how that thought process works?

Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

this, too ^^

Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

this, too ^^

Posted by truecap

Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

this, too ^^

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The other day he posted this as his status which I think is a VERY TYPICAL cap moon thing "I like being alone, I have control over my shit therefore in order to win me over, your presence has to feel better than my solitude, your not competing with another person your competing with my comfort zone"
When he wrote that I was like wow typical cap moon!!! I wonder if you relate to that would u go out of your bubble quicker if you found someone your very fond of being with? What could make you get out of your bubble quicker? Any chance to know that hopefully?

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Posted by Nouran20

Posted by sultrykitty
Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

No no it's not that I don't Wana hear him it's just that we were having an argument about something silly and I didn't Wana have the argument anymore cuz it was getting me extremely angry so I said shush I don't Wana continue the argument. im the friend that always listens to his problems and supports him all the way. I never push him if he's not ready to talk either. He says he feels very comfortable talking to me. But I do worry when he hides in his bubble sometimes I'm like did i do something wrong?

Do u cap moons ever talk about what got u in that bubble after ur done with ur hiding phase? Or would u rather keep it to yourself? Cuz I don't Wana be pushy and keep asking him what's wrong

No, I don't even know why I go into that bubble, so how could I talk about it. And if I were wanting to talk about it, I probably wouldn't with someone who has shushed me before. You didn't want to hear it then, why do you want to hear it now? See, how that thought process works?

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So what do you think of people that express their anger much more loudly and clearly and perhaps losing it when they speak? Opposed to you cap moons whom deal with your anger in silence and isolation?

Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

Thank you I believe he really is exactly how you have described. But as a friend I want to know what's the best way to support a cap moon in the phase of being 'upset' or isolation? Do I step away and keep my conversations short and completely leave you alone till ur back to normal or should I try to comfort you by words and speaking softly? I just don't know how to deal with it. Right now my cap moon friend and I are really good together. We started speaking and he opened up more. All I did was completely stopped messaging him and said once you feel better let me know. And that was it. We are now working on organisin a date to meet up and talk about what was upsetting him. I'm not the reason but apparently shit happened to him.

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Posted by Nouran20
Hi everyone. So my close friend is a sag sun, cap moon guy.
He's been acting funny and I asked him what's wrong? He said he's facing lots of problems at work and uni. After 2 days I texted him to see if he's ok and he said I'm sorry but I can't talk now and I want some time alone and I'll explain what happened later. And I respect that and since then I didn't text him to give him his own space and freedom although I do worry sometimes.
It's been about 3 days now.
Today he texted a short message saying happy new year and hope your life is successful. And I texted back happy new year and asked him hope your feeling better now? But he didn't reply till now.
I guess he still wants to stay in his isolated bubble?? My question is there any cap moon people who Can relate? Like how can people get you to leave your isolated bubble sooner? And how can we get them to open up and express themselves?
I told him many times that I'm here for him to listen and support him. I always have supported him.
But He tends to isolate himself when he's not in the mood. He's also the kinda person that interrupts me a lot when we speak face to face and he talks a lottttttt. I dunno if that's from his sag sun or cap moon though. But I wish I could tell him to like give others a chance to speak...the reason why I'm patient cuz I enjoy being around him and I like him a lot but interrupting people as they speak all the time is just not a very positive trait and I don't know if It's worth bringing it up or should I just accept it?

Nothing you can do. We'll climb out of that bubble when we're ready - once we've analyzed and made a plan. Force it and we'll push you further away.

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is there something that someone would do that would annoy you extremely during the time you hide in your bubble ?

My SO has a fire Mars (Aries), and while he has a long fuse, he will get explosive when he's past the breaking point. It makes me very uncomfortable, but I can be nasty when I'm backed into a corner too. I usually tell him to get over it and walk away if his anger isn't directed at me. I'm usually the one who can calm him down.

But we've had a lot of knock down drag outs before. We stand toe to toe on who's got a more fiery temper (but I have a Leo mars that takes over when I'm REALLY mad).

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Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

Thank you I believe he really is exactly how you have described. But as a friend I want to know what's the best way to support a cap moon in the phase of being 'upset' or isolation? Do I step away and keep my conversations short and completely leave you alone till ur back to normal or should I try to comfort you by words and speaking softly? I just don't know how to deal with it. Right now my cap moon friend and I are really good together. We started speaking and he opened up more. All I did was completely stopped messaging him and said once you feel better let me know. And that was it. We are now working on organisin a date to meet up and talk about what was upsetting him. I'm not the reason but apparently shit happened to him.

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For me, the people who have handled it best were those who a) gave me some time to myself, to brood or think about it or whatever, and then b) acknowledged that I was upset and just made themselves available IF I WANTED TO TALK and then never mentioned it again, and c) get back to normal fun stuff as if nothing ecer happened.

It sounds insensitive, but the last part is important--after we've had time to cuckoon---because if we don't have someone whio can just help us get back to normal, it's really easy to get bogged down in depression. Having some time to be alone is cool, but we also need to be around people who love life and can show us the beauty in the world, just by being upbeat.

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Posted by truecap

Posted by sultrykitty
Ask ONCE if you did something to hurt him. If he says no, then you didn't. If he feels comfortable with you he'll tell you, maybe not right away. We usually want time to decide if what we're upset about is worth talking about.

You're right, we're very sensitive. It comes from feeling like we have to be on top of everything all the time and when we're criticized it knocks us down and makes us feel like we're not perfect. I know it sounds silly because nobody's perfect but it's a subconscious thing and it takes a long time to learn to accept it.

Try not to be too upset or think it's your fault when he goes into that place. It's not usually something that anyone has done and if it is, we'll tell you.

this, too ^^

The other day he posted this as his status which I think is a VERY TYPICAL cap moon thing "I like being alone, I have control over my shit therefore in order to win me over, your presence has to feel better than my solitude, your not competing with another person your competing with my comfort zone"
When he wrote that I was like wow typical cap moon!!! I wonder if you relate to that would u go out of your bubble quicker if you found someone your very fond of being with? What could make you get out of your bubble quicker? Any chance to know that hopefully?

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Nothing.

It's not about another person. It has nothing to do with you. You're not the reason. You can't fix it. It's internal.

Push it, try to hard or anything else can't fix it.

Maybe just be yourself. Be natural. Don't ask about it. Be fun. Provide humor. All you can do.

Posted by Nouran20

Posted by truecap

Posted by Nouran20

Posted by sultrykitty
Cap moon here, and no...no one can get us out of our bubble except when we're ready. We can even act lile we're out of the buuble but still be in it.

It's very insensitive for you to shush someone when they are tying to talk to you about personal things. We are very guarded about who we open up to and when, and to have someone tell us they don't want to hear it is like telling us you don't want to know us.

No no it's not that I don't Wana hear him it's just that we were having an argument about something silly and I didn't Wana have the argument anymore cuz it was getting me extremely angry so I said shush I don't Wana continue the argument. im the friend that always listens to his problems and supports him all the way. I never push him if he's not ready to talk either. He says he feels very comfortable talking to me. But I do worry when he hides in his bubble sometimes I'm like did i do something wrong?

Do u cap moons ever talk about what got u in that bubble after ur done with ur hiding phase? Or would u rather keep it to yourself? Cuz I don't Wana be pushy and keep asking him what's wrong

No, I don't even know why I go into that bubble, so how could I talk about it. And if I were wanting to talk about it, I probably wouldn't with someone who has shushed me before. You didn't want to hear it then, why do you want to hear it now? See, how that thought process works?

So what do you think of people that express their anger much more loudly and clearly and perhaps losing it when they speak? Opposed to you cap moons whom deal with your anger in silence and isolation?

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I don't understand why the can't control it. Its ridiculous to act on impulse. Volatile, loud people make me uncomfortable. Impulsiveness is a weakness in my opinion.

Posted by Nouran20

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Posted by Nouran20
Hi everyone. So my close friend is a sag sun, cap moon guy.
He's been acting funny and I asked him what's wrong? He said he's facing lots of problems at work and uni. After 2 days I texted him to see if he's ok and he said I'm sorry but I can't talk now and I want some time alone and I'll explain what happened later. And I respect that and since then I didn't text him to give him his own space and freedom although I do worry sometimes.
It's been about 3 days now.
Today he texted a short message saying happy new year and hope your life is successful. And I texted back happy new year and asked him hope your feeling better now? But he didn't reply till now.
I guess he still wants to stay in his isolated bubble?? My question is there any cap moon people who Can relate? Like how can people get you to leave your isolated bubble sooner? And how can we get them to open up and express themselves?
I told him many times that I'm here for him to listen and support him. I always have supported him.
But He tends to isolate himself when he's not in the mood. He's also the kinda person that interrupts me a lot when we speak face to face and he talks a lottttttt. I dunno if that's from his sag sun or cap moon though. But I wish I could tell him to like give others a chance to speak...the reason why I'm patient cuz I enjoy being around him and I like him a lot but interrupting people as they speak all the time is just not a very positive trait and I don't know if It's worth bringing it up or should I just accept it?

Nothing you can do. We'll climb out of that bubble when we're ready - once we've analyzed and made a plan. Force it and we'll push you further away.

is there something that someone would do that would annoy you extremely during the time you hide in your bubble ?

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Asking me about it. Pushing me to open up. Its irritating and i will pull away more. I will open up in my own time.

You can get him, and other people as well, out of their bubble by dropping the expectations - it removes the tension.

Cap moon people (Actually describing how it has been for me sometimes) might quickly feel like they have too many responsibilities, and rarely like they're 'free', which makes them unable to relax.
In a bad mood even the smallest responsibility, like responding to a message, can be too much.

Thank you so much. All the replies have really made me learn how to deal with you guys (cap moons)
pretty much by doing nothing as you cuckoon. Just leave you alone till you come back to normal. Listen to you if you Wana talk about it. And if not just let it go!

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Posted by Nouran20
Hi everyone. So my close friend is a sag sun, cap moon guy.
He's been acting funny and I asked him what's wrong? He said he's facing lots of problems at work and uni. After 2 days I texted him to see if he's ok and he said I'm sorry but I can't talk now and I want some time alone and I'll explain what happened later. And I respect that and since then I didn't text him to give him his own space and freedom although I do worry sometimes.
It's been about 3 days now.
Today he texted a short message saying happy new year and hope your life is successful. And I texted back happy new year and asked him hope your feeling better now? But he didn't reply till now.
I guess he still wants to stay in his isolated bubble?? My question is there any cap moon people who Can relate? Like how can people get you to leave your isolated bubble sooner? And how can we get them to open up and express themselves?
I told him many times that I'm here for him to listen and support him. I always have supported him.
But He tends to isolate himself when he's not in the mood. He's also the kinda person that interrupts me a lot when we speak face to face and he talks a lottttttt. I dunno if that's from his sag sun or cap moon though. But I wish I could tell him to like give others a chance to speak...the reason why I'm patient cuz I enjoy being around him and I like him a lot but interrupting people as they speak all the time is just not a very positive trait and I don't know if It's worth bringing it up or should I just accept it?

Nothing you can do. We'll climb out of that bubble when we're ready - once we've analyzed and made a plan. Force it and we'll push you further away.

is there something that someone would do that would annoy you extremely during the time you hide in your bubble ?

Asking me about it. Pushing me to open up. Its irritating and i will pull away more. I will open up in my own time.

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are you capable of supporting people emotionally? Or would you rather stay away?

Posted by PlutoMars44
Very familiar with cap moon people. LEAVE THEM ALONE when they are in their bubblw they will seek you out when they are ready. Do not ask them to edpressntjeir feelings they suck at that and will share feelings sporadically.

my friend with cap moon interrupts me a lot when I speak and I noticed that he is a bad listener sometimes. I always listen to his complains and support him all the way but sometimes I feel he doesn't support me as much as I support him. I was wondering is it just him or are cap moons incapable of supporting others emotionally?
Secondly what are the best and worst romantic relationships you had? How does your partner deal with your 'isolation' thing and how would u rather want ur parent to handle it?

@nouran

Yes, I am. As long as they are logical, can see beyond just the emtion and don't keep harping on ithe and droning on and on. It gets tiresome quickly.