Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable signs

First of all I want to define one thing before proceeding with explaining the differences between those three.

Every child born is empty in their head. Knowledge is gained with living life.

Cardinal Signs: I call them bluffer signs. They almost never show their human natures and they using this disguise to get their goals on their hands.

Aries is biggest bluffer here. They are not easily caught. But they do the most bluffing. They bluff about their mental and physical propertries. This is the only way they could get into something in the beginning of their life. They learn truth later.

Libra is bluffer in social matters. Everything related with human relationships is a material for librian bluffing. This is the only way they could get into something in the beginning of their life. They learn truth later.

Capricorn is bluffer in practical matters. I do not have much experience with them so I cannot tell you how they do it.

Cancer is "big" bluffer in emotional matters. Mind games flows quite alot in this sign. This is the only way to get into things in early of their life. But this sign is unfortunate, because emotional matters are not good strategy to get into things happen.


Fixed signs: Fixed signs are ballanced types. Their ballanced behaviours come from their nature. They do learn things according to their age and enviroument. But they are not open for new things. Their main qualities are not changable. That gives them some pozitive quality because they unconsciously progress in society. But they are not aware of that quality and they are not changable. Also those peopople strategically vulnerable, because their fixed qualities are easily learned and their lack of ability to adapt to new situation makes them strategically vulnerable.

Leo is a fire sign. They are more inclined on "me" side which makes them very egoisticals. They progress in society ballancedly because their "me" quality does not change. They have no idea what "no ego" means and they probably never learn it themselves (if even it possible at all).

Tauruses are fixed sign in practical matters. Their outlook on life is rarely changing. Big probability of being dull peopele.

Aquarius is fixed sign in mental matters. Due to their elemental nature of air, their constant chatty behaviours gets them into learning things quite fast. But they are not changable in mental matters. If they learned once that something is good in one way, they will do it for their entire life. Quite strategically vulnerable.

Scorpio is fixed sign in emotional matters. They cannot let it go. Once their emotions and feelings are fixed in one thing, they cannot let it go. They cannot detach from them easily (if possible at all). Strategically vulnerable as well.

Mutable signs: Those people are in unfortunate state in the beginning of their life. They have no bluffing ability. There is nothing in them from time of birth that could give them some positivity as it gives to fixed signs. Those people have to learn things in the later of their life. This makes them strategically percise. Their ability to adapt to new situations (because they could be easily detached from their manin qualities of their elemental sign) also provide strategical benefits. By learning things in later of their life they can acqire fixed propertries and by using fixed qualities they can gain cardinal qualities as well. Their only drawback is the beginning of their life. They have nothing.

Saggitarius is mutable fire sign. Their ability of learning phylosofical things makes them perfect fire quality users in the latter of their life.

Viro is mutable earth sign. Their ability to thoroughtly analyse things before acting on them gives them perfect ability to use earth quality latter in their life.

Gemini is mutable air sign. I am not sure about them but I guess something similair happens t

Yeah Branh0913.

My mother is a Gemini and she learned all her communication skills in latter of her life. She is owning a business right now which is based on communication skills lol.

It would be interesting to hear more about older Pisces here. I wonder what they did with their time on their hands, because sometimes I can see that some older Pisces still havent learned to deal with self control yet. What that could be about? Hmm.

Interesting, we do not have old Pisces male with about 40 years age. Could be very interesting insight from them.

I know that self control part Branh0913. But I was looking for something more that self control. You see, saying that self control is the only thing that Pisces needs is quite understatement to Pisces abilities. I wonder what the use will have sensitivity and seeing many sides of every situation.

Hmm Brahn0913. I think I have to disagree with self control part. I am sure that Pisces is far more in self control than any other water sign. You see, Pisces is mutable water sign which means that they learn emotions and then act on them. If this is true, then how Pisces can learn emotions and act on them later witout having self control in the first place?

Primegen

Switching between thinking style s may provide strategical values.

I think learning to change is a fixed signs conceived personality more than thier problem in life.All of them comprimise everyday is what i've noticed and is seen as a growing experiance which is what it is.With the scorp starsign and taurus moon the point primegen brought up about being slow and quiet towards making sure it's the right thing to do is what makes it seem fixed or inchangable.Theres alot of what if situations going on in my head everyday but don't think it's the polor opposite thing as much because I can look at my aqua brother and taurus sister and stepsister who don't have polor oppositions and they are doing the same thing when they do verbalise what they are thinking.Alot of "what do you think's?","okay,so what if this happened what then's?",etc.are thrown around when we are having issues deciding on something and ask opinions.

Primegen

A non competetive type of life? Do you really believe that there is such sort of life in this world? Our whole life is set of competitions. Whereither you start to deal with money which is absolutely needed for living, you are entering into game which is fundamentally competion based. Therefore, you cant say that our life is non competetive. And there is no such life for Aquarians that you mentioned who choise to stay away from a competion.

Quiet style of life or lets say minimised competition involved life style is actually waste of life force in many ways. Not just it limits your defencive capabilities with incoming situations, since you do not know how to deal with them, it also limits your perspective!! You cannot create a new perspective without new knowledge! Quiet life is excatly "knowledge killer". Our civilizations are built during thousands of years. And they werent built by 1-2 people. They were built by thousands even maybe millions. You cant learn things by yourself in your lifetime that people gained so far till this day. This is impossible! You can add very little because many things were tried and found faulty when you start to think with your primal analysing style . You are almost doomed for failrue. Therefore, having competetive and active life is your source for your perspectives in your life. And this is the only way to use your life force better. Those Aquas are just wasted people. Result, strategically wrong living people. = Fixed quality.

" Whether it is a strategic value I think is situational."

Expecting situations come to you and sitting defencive like a duck is just a perfect fixed quality. You see, the definition of situational strategy in my understating has two meanings: Whereither you expect "perfect" situation to come to you or you create a new situation. One passive response and other is active response. Later one has strategical value. People cant find new situations by sitting defencive all the time. They have to do something about that.

Abstract thinking vs. Concrete thinking

Each support one another. They both make each other powerful when developed. When final point will be reached, the most poweful abstract and concrete thinking will be acheived. This is the point that I will accept as fixed quality part. Not when people act solely on their own thinking stlye which is generally look like ideas out of your a $ $ when you compare them to your final destination. And yes, thinking style or "abstract thinking" do change accoring to your concrete experience. It's not fixed as well, because very few things in this world are really "fixed". Therefore, no one can be fixed in this world yet. People persistent on something without ability to look at other side of medallion are morons.

You call your uncle a scientist? If his job is to do what others say, then decisions are made for him by others and your uncle is not a scientist. This is NOT a science at all. Science is biggest decision making system in the world. You are not just trying to prove something to 1-2 companies like you do in marketing and whom you obviously can even fool, you actually challenge the entire world and things and people who was done and lived before you. Your uncle is probably some kind of hi-tech worker, but definetly not a scientist. Doubtlessly, science is the biggest challange in the world.

Quiet life is what we getting from living together as community. This is some kind of simulated reality actually. The true reality is a life alone in the forest with various animals where you try to survive. Community provide many things for us such as protection, social enviroument etc that saves us from reality. Therefore, you cant call what we have as reality. Well actually you can, but then you would just waste your life force. The actual reality is when you can do things all yourself without help. You see, people who work in universities as scientists actually biggest consumers of what community provides them for their knowledge. They do not pay anything from their own pocket for machinery and supplies that they use in their business. Not just that, they also get paid for their work for their living. Someone else do this all for them. They are not living in reality. They are supported by it. This is strategically disadventagious situations, becase you have no control over the money you use, and you cant use it for strategic purposes to bring better results in your work. You have to play by rules which is made by people who pay money to you, and it is knows that rules are not the best way to deal with situation, especially in science. So whoever is working depending on universities (aka rules) are limited to some point, and cannot go ahead and face full challange. I am not even including situations where universities are being used as money sources for other businesses or lets say pockets of some individuals. But yeah, this is not our business sure, but you see this is rules that limits us here.

Waiting is not strongest strategic action. Attacking is. If you have ever played chess, you would know that a player who constantly attacks opponent and keeps him in bay, always in strategic advantage. Of course attacking could be disastous if not used and calculated properly. But isnt being defencive is also calculation and using properly. What is the difference then? Attacking is high risk action, but it is much better than waiting if used properly. The only way to use it proper is living and thinking in challanging way aka using your life force in best way.

I did grasped your thinking about abstractive and concrete thinking. You have tried to define that there are some people who think only according to things that they can prove or show in real life aka concrete thinking and there are people who generalize things without necessarily showing concrete examples aka abstract thinkers. The truth here is that actually it is you who didnt grasp what I have said. I didnt mention that any one of them is somehow better than other opposite. What I said was both of them are dependant on each other and the best way of using them is when they are used together. Not just that, they both are also strongly linked with each other. They cant survive alone and should be used and learned together. This is the main difference between what you have said and what I said, because you have tried to show the best one of those two.

bran again i disagree, ive met about 4 or 5 virgos, out of the 6 i know, who are always furthest off into rediculous lala land of dreams and impractical modes of thinking than i. Thers of course alot that arent that way, but most pisces dont get enough credit for practical side. i think its a lack of Ego, that gives you this impression possibly.

Oh didn't continue reading this but haffo,fixed sign means we are passive finishers.We get things done and finished,we don't sit around taking up space and would actually be the most likey to survive in a forest with no handouts or help.Once we set our minds on something it's done and will be stubbornly and perseverely gone after until we get it done.Cardinals start things but don't finish them,mutables are adaptable but don't do anything to an extreme to do either and fixed are passive and go with the flowers on a day to day basis but while maybe quietly going about our own business we are getting things done or finsish what the other signs start if it's important enough.We are also known as power signs because we understand that running a business or maybe being a politician,we'd be responsable for everyone else so passive is a good thing when your a power figure.You can't run around acting on impulses without it turning to tyranny or burying the things you are required to take care of.We are creaters if we are evolved enough for any of the 4 fixed signs.

Or in otherwords action over talking is more important to a fixed sign.

Agreed.

Yet, I think the purporse of mutables are different. You see, cardinals are starters and fixed ones are finishers, then what do mutables have? They are neither starters and neither finishers. They are appearently non doers anything but I think they are true users of the element they are bond to. For example true fire users are Sags and ture water users are Pisces etc. But they werent born with those abilities, they learn all of these afterwards and as proverb says: "The true laughters are the ones who laughts last".

"Tauruses are fixed sign in practical matters. Their outlook on life is rarely changing. Big probability of being dull people."

Am not! ehhh maybe just a tad... dammit!

Mutable I heard is either a weakness or a strength,it's adapting that keeps mutables alive when cardinals and fixed are going at each others throats in the strength quality or in the weakness way you guys sit around whining because you didn't stand up for yourself,get taken advantage of or lost yourselves by being bossed around too much.Mutables do have there place if thats what your really asking,I think they fill the gap and make it easier for the other two to get along,maybe the peacemakers.Fixed and cardinal signs are extremist pretty much,cardinals are usually trying to boss around fixed signs and fixed signs are stubborn and know what works so they look at cardinals like they are crazy because not everything they think of has a real purpose or is of any use to anyone but themselves in a passing moodswing or urge.I think mutables would do the detailing to make things more exceptable to the other two types if they use thier strengths rather than give in completely to one or the other when they are actually good ideas.

Like maybe a really stupid idea from a cardinal maybe aries or cancer,a virgo or gemini would come in and rip it to shreds with details if they were really stupid and would be pointless to a fixed sign so the say aqua can shut up and not go off which could lead to uneeded distrustion if pushed too far by the cardinal;aquas can lead people to do anything to an extreme just by thier humanitarian and vision(for everyone,they use kindness to bring people together for one main cause) abilities.

Fixed sign like maybe leo or scorpio being too stubborn,turning cruel and power hungry,a pisces or sag would come in to get them to lighten up and to actually be able to show it to them without again it turning into a big fight from a cardinal libra thats about to pounce(like aquas have social,humanitarian stuff being important).

I don't know,theres plenty of examples but have to do more reseach on all of the signs but anyways each one has a place for something so it's not really worth trying to analyse.Maybe mutables don't have the extremist quality but it's still useful when they do play a role in things,I think I may have read somewhere that wanting to be more "powerful" in thier idea of what it is considered to be can be a mutables weakness too.They need to find THIER good points and use them instead of trying to be a cardinal or fixed sign,alot of inner struggle stuff caused by thierselves which doesn't need to be there or will cause trivial arguements basically by trying to imitate.They should probably focus on thier good traits of being able to speak boths langage to the extent of getting the point across without directly insulting one like the other two generally do with each other.

" from a cardinal libra thats about to pounce"

Oh yeah,talking about cardinals not fixed with that,after the libra ahs already been a total bitch to no avail,the pisces or sag could come in a sooth the idea into the picture without challeging the fixed sign enough to feel threatened to get them to change.Mutables have the ability to change fixed signs or to shut up cardinals when they are going overboard.