LouLore
@LouLore
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I want to swim....
How did you ever managed to make it two years like that? If he hasn't changed, I'm not sure what would make him. If you keep trying and he keeps shutting you down, there really isn't much else you can do. It's up to him if he wants to open up and it doesn't seem like he is going to. As dj said, once I start feeling like things aren't working, there's nothing in that moment that can make me stay. But, I hope you make the best decision for yourself.
Posted by Scenic
How did you ever managed to make it two years like that?
I think for the first while I just thought we were both shy and that it would expand over time. We have become closer over time, but very slowly. We have had a few breakups.... but have found that we are closer after each one.. I think due to me actually hearing how he feels.
This would be the final one.
The last one I did okay for a couple weeks.. but he snuck his way back in. Now I just feel more attached, so it may be harder.
I feel the same as most of you... when I've gotten to this point in the past.. it's over. I recognize the signs. I don't want him to touch me.. thats a big one. 😢
PM,
I accepted that as our mode of communication for a long time, thinking he would eventually open up emotionally. I don't see it though, and I think I may have been looking for something that was never there. Or at least is extremely concealed, to the point where I can't do anything about it.
I accepted that as our mode of communication for a long time, thinking he would eventually open up emotionally. I don't see it though, and I think I may have been looking for something that was never there. Or at least is extremely concealed, to the point where I can't do anything about it.
Posted by Poisson
You can't change who he is and you can't change how he feels. If you stay, you'll end up resenting and from what it sounds like (" I don't want him to touch me.. thats a big one."), you've already started.
You're right. I've only been feeling this way for about a week... it seemed to be I tried to discuss some things with him and got very lacking response. I am now becoming resentful.
Posted by guiwaterdaymasterPosted by LouLore
PM,
I accepted that as our mode of communication for a long time, thinking he would eventually open up emotionally. I don't see it though, and I think I may have been looking for something that was never there. Or at least is extremely concealed, to the point where I can't do anything about it.
Venus in bull and Sagg rising you are direct in love and his physical passion was enough in the bargaining more then likely... But now as the relationship develops with Venus in the bull you want answers about love not just actions... Your Pisces Sun makes you a bit in your own world at times so this can seem really out of the blue with the space you need some times or how quiet you may get yourself...
Better
PMclick to expand
That was % 100 on.
Thank you.
If we were not physical with each other I imagine this may not have lasted as long.
Or maybe it would last longer.. because so much wouldn't be pushed under the rug by silent making-up in the bedroom. Eh.
Or maybe it would last longer.. because so much wouldn't be pushed under the rug by silent making-up in the bedroom. Eh.
Hum. I remember you. I remember when I first came to the board I was all bitter and angry about my Scorpio. Maybe it finally came out about what was really going on with you two. Specifically that you two were in a "perfect" love/relationship but im not surprised that this is going on. This is the same exact thing I was complaining about a year or two ago.
May I ask his chart? My Scorpio was super closed off like this and his mercury was in Scorpio also. Which honestly made it impossible to get any type of communication/feelings out of him.
May I ask his chart? My Scorpio was super closed off like this and his mercury was in Scorpio also. Which honestly made it impossible to get any type of communication/feelings out of him.
Posted by Xin
Hum. I remember you. I remember when I first came to the board I was all bitter and angry about my Scorpio. Maybe it finally came out about what was really going on with you two. Specifically that you two were in a "perfect" love/relationship but im not surprised that this is going on. This is the same exact thing I was complaining about a year or two ago.
May I ask his chart? My Scorpio was super closed off like this and his mercury was in Scorpio also. Which honestly made it impossible to get any type of communication/feelings out of him.
Yep I remember that as well. And for the time being.. and where I imagined it going.. it was good at first. Because I thought it would just get better, but its quite stagnant and disconnected for where I think a 2 year relationship should be.. no matter how slow moving. I apologize If I seemed cocky then, because I know I pissed you off, but I think you may have took my words for more than what they were worth then.
He is
scorpio sun
cancer moon
libra mercury
sag venus
libra mars
Posted by LouLorePosted by Xin
Hum. I remember you. I remember when I first came to the board I was all bitter and angry about my Scorpio. Maybe it finally came out about what was really going on with you two. Specifically that you two were in a "perfect" love/relationship but im not surprised that this is going on. This is the same exact thing I was complaining about a year or two ago.
May I ask his chart? My Scorpio was super closed off like this and his mercury was in Scorpio also. Which honestly made it impossible to get any type of communication/feelings out of him.
Yep I remember that as well. And for the time being.. and where I imagined it going.. it was good at first. Because I thought it would just get better, but its quite stagnant and disconnected for where I think a 2 year relationship should be.. no matter how slow moving. I apologize If I seemed cocky then, because I know I pissed you off, but I think you may have took my words for more than what they were worth then.
He is
scorpio sun
cancer moon
libra mercury
sag venus
libra marsclick to expand
Its all water under the bridge. Not a big deal. I think I was mostly envious because I couldn't get my Scorpio to talk to me or communicate with me on any level. Assumed that you guys were light years beyond us and I already put 3 years into it, and you were both new. Mostly miffed at why me being a Gemini with Mercury in Gemini couldn't get someone to talk at all.
Hum Libra Mercury and Sag Venus. Im not so sure about those aspects too. Hopefully someone here will come forward with those placements or know a little bit about them to help out.
I am sorry you're going through this. I know how it feels.
Just be real, peoples .... and I will quell my irritation at you
Like this, for example ....
so, there you have it, Lou .... you know what has transpired to bring to your current position = you two were using sex to pacify each other, so you don't have to face what's really up
thank you for keeping it real 😄
Posted by LouLore
If we were not physical with each other I imagine this may not have lasted as long.
Or maybe it would last longer.. because so much wouldn't be pushed under the rug by silent making-up in the bedroom. Eh.
so, there you have it, Lou .... you know what has transpired to bring to your current position = you two were using sex to pacify each other, so you don't have to face what's really up
thank you for keeping it real 😄
You don't have to ask what to do now ..... you simply have to realize that you had rose-colored glasses on. Not in theory, in actuality.
He is not who you thought he was. He hasn't changed, people don't change their core, they only change they way they want to appear. There's no, "now what do I do" .. there is only jumping stream to your next life experience, while letting the disappointments pass and letting the laughter fill your glass, as you recall your life .... and peace will follow you.
He is not who you thought he was. He hasn't changed, people don't change their core, they only change they way they want to appear. There's no, "now what do I do" .. there is only jumping stream to your next life experience, while letting the disappointments pass and letting the laughter fill your glass, as you recall your life .... and peace will follow you.
Swim, swim away .... be free from the darkness of the uncertainty that puts the Fish on tilt.
One thing about a Fish, that only they can understand ... and that is what it feels like to swim when you find yourself on the crack of wtf, wondering how in the hell everything turned out like this.
One thing about a Fish, that only they can understand ... and that is what it feels like to swim when you find yourself on the crack of wtf, wondering how in the hell everything turned out like this.
btw, welcome back LouLore .... you have been missed
Hi you all, thank you for your responses!
The last I read was scorched's, before I headed to his place last night. We broke things off. He was probably vibing what I had been thinking about for the past few days. We both voiced our concerns and it was basically the same conversation we have had each time we broke things off in the past year. It hurt more this time.
After it was over I was back and forth in my head like,
"AH my freedom is back" (you know just like, personal freedom.. not like im trying to boink anyone)
"Did I make a mistake?! What am I doing? How is it that every time all we need is to talk to each other seriously about our relationship.. we just end up breaking up?!"
Reading PM's posts this morning made me a bit sad, thinking.. that would have been a good idea. I could have tried that. I think a month ago, I should have tried that.
But then reading P's posts after REALLY helped quell the sadness and questioning. So thank you, P.
I asked the Scorp if he thought we did all we could to make it work. He said yes, so I have some closure with that. He also remarked that he probably won't be able to stay away for long, while at the same time saying we should break all ties through social networks, and that who knows when we would ever see eachother again. Oh scorp.
Anyways, its over. If we ever get back together, it better not be before a years time is up. I'm not doing this again until some crazy stuff changes for the both of us.. that is if it happens again.
He will be missed.. but i'm swimmmmin
The last I read was scorched's, before I headed to his place last night. We broke things off. He was probably vibing what I had been thinking about for the past few days. We both voiced our concerns and it was basically the same conversation we have had each time we broke things off in the past year. It hurt more this time.
After it was over I was back and forth in my head like,
"AH my freedom is back" (you know just like, personal freedom.. not like im trying to boink anyone)
"Did I make a mistake?! What am I doing? How is it that every time all we need is to talk to each other seriously about our relationship.. we just end up breaking up?!"
Reading PM's posts this morning made me a bit sad, thinking.. that would have been a good idea. I could have tried that. I think a month ago, I should have tried that.
But then reading P's posts after REALLY helped quell the sadness and questioning. So thank you, P.
I asked the Scorp if he thought we did all we could to make it work. He said yes, so I have some closure with that. He also remarked that he probably won't be able to stay away for long, while at the same time saying we should break all ties through social networks, and that who knows when we would ever see eachother again. Oh scorp.
Anyways, its over. If we ever get back together, it better not be before a years time is up. I'm not doing this again until some crazy stuff changes for the both of us.. that is if it happens again.
He will be missed.. but i'm swimmmmin
Posted by P-Angel
btw, welcome back LouLore .... you have been missed
Thanks P =) I'm often here.. just in the shadows. I may have to start posting more. :p
lol, as if a person on the internet can promise an outcome on your relationship
people are so stupid sometimes
people are so stupid sometimes
Posted by Poisson
You stuck around for 2 years hoping things would get better. I did twice the time under similar circumstances. It will get better. I promise you.
Meaning the fact that I'm on my own now. That will get better?
Just making sure thats the direction you were taking.
Idk if P's assuming you mean had I stayed. P you don't things to get better for me?! Haha. 🙂
Nah I think you're just saying P, no one can guarantee, yes?
Idk if P's assuming you mean had I stayed. P you don't things to get better for me?! Haha. 🙂
Nah I think you're just saying P, no one can guarantee, yes?
I definitely want you to get better .... but, I cannot promise you that .. how arrogant.
The thing that makes it hard for Pisces and Scorpios is the Scorpion trust issues .... people who try to have a relationship with them are led to believe that they are mistrusted, and have to prove themselves to the Scorpion. The person cares, so they begin to try and prove to the Scorpio that they are worthy of being trusted ... and fail everytime.
it's because you were never the one who couldn't be trusted .. the trust issue they have isn't you .. the problem with trust is them.
never do they ever think it's them, they always make you think it's you .... it's them, it's their problem that is ignored by them because they don't know it's there
And just like you, and all others who try to have a relationship with them ...... you were led to believe that you had to work at proving yourself to him so he could trust you, and you never accomplished this because the problem was never yours to fix
The thing that makes it hard for Pisces and Scorpios is the Scorpion trust issues .... people who try to have a relationship with them are led to believe that they are mistrusted, and have to prove themselves to the Scorpion. The person cares, so they begin to try and prove to the Scorpio that they are worthy of being trusted ... and fail everytime.
it's because you were never the one who couldn't be trusted .. the trust issue they have isn't you .. the problem with trust is them.
never do they ever think it's them, they always make you think it's you .... it's them, it's their problem that is ignored by them because they don't know it's there
And just like you, and all others who try to have a relationship with them ...... you were led to believe that you had to work at proving yourself to him so he could trust you, and you never accomplished this because the problem was never yours to fix
Well, I will say this. He admits that he has trust issues with me, and also that he can be jealous and insecure.
I have a son whose father is in the picture. Scorp does not envision having to live with an Ex in the picture.
#2 I am friends with a different past ex of mine. Scorp is not comfortable with this. There was an incident where I got drinks with the past ex (we dated many years ago for a short amount of time, and remained friends) and needed him to drive me home. I allowed this person to stay at my house in order to drive me back to my car in the morning. This happened last summer when Scorp and I were about 4 months official. (Before then, scorp was very unsure and hesitant to state our relationship). In my brain at the time, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.. I wasn't cheating on him, I had no ill intentions.. it was just how the situation played out. I feel REALLY dumb about it now.. and have for the past year. Scorp blames all of his disconnect on this situation. So yes, he has trust issues with me.
I don't think I would ever be able to remedy either situation in the Scorps mind.. so it is probably best we are both working to let it go. I feel I have learned quite a bit, in that I need to take consideration in what I'm doing, and what it will look like to my partner. And times a million, with a scorpio. I have grown a lot and would consider this is a huge learning experience.
I have a son whose father is in the picture. Scorp does not envision having to live with an Ex in the picture.
#2 I am friends with a different past ex of mine. Scorp is not comfortable with this. There was an incident where I got drinks with the past ex (we dated many years ago for a short amount of time, and remained friends) and needed him to drive me home. I allowed this person to stay at my house in order to drive me back to my car in the morning. This happened last summer when Scorp and I were about 4 months official. (Before then, scorp was very unsure and hesitant to state our relationship). In my brain at the time, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.. I wasn't cheating on him, I had no ill intentions.. it was just how the situation played out. I feel REALLY dumb about it now.. and have for the past year. Scorp blames all of his disconnect on this situation. So yes, he has trust issues with me.
I don't think I would ever be able to remedy either situation in the Scorps mind.. so it is probably best we are both working to let it go. I feel I have learned quite a bit, in that I need to take consideration in what I'm doing, and what it will look like to my partner. And times a million, with a scorpio. I have grown a lot and would consider this is a huge learning experience.
I do agree P, also that, whether or not anything happened to cause a trust issue, scorpio and pisces with have trust issues ANYWAYS. Pisces are hard to peg down.. and are said to always remain elusive.. thats just who they are. I feel I am a VERY transparent person, and honest to a T (sag rising)... yes Scorp often told me I am vague and secretive. It never made sense to me.
Yet****
Posted by IntriguedScorp
Hmm...Okay darling. However, that all elusive mechanism to detach for NO GOOD REASON that you so proudly hail as Pisces isn't really helping trust issues now is it?
of course it isn't helping ... why do you think this is a terrible match for the long haul?
And what I said about Scorps is true.
You guys have a trust issue that you project onto others ... to give of yourself fully once you've been able to trust someone isn't the same as mistrusting.
Surely you know that there is a difference between trusting and mistrusting ... so, what you said doesn't really dispute that in any way because I never said that Scorpios cannot trust.
be sure you know what I'm saying .....
You guys have a trust issue that you project onto others ... to give of yourself fully once you've been able to trust someone isn't the same as mistrusting.
Surely you know that there is a difference between trusting and mistrusting ... so, what you said doesn't really dispute that in any way because I never said that Scorpios cannot trust.
be sure you know what I'm saying .....
Posted by IntriguedScorp
Once we are all in we trust BLINDLY.
That is an issue ^^^^^^^ ... you don't seem to notice that, but, it is.
When the Scorpio is trying to develop a relationship with someone, they are the epitome of mistrustful of the other person, even when the other person doesn't do anything mistrustful. The Scorpion paranoia is extreme. Now, once you've decided that a person can be trusted, you are then blinded by this trust.
And I don't have to be a Scorpio to recognize that ... it has nothing to do with feelings.
And if you don't realize that blindness is an issue, then perhaps you need to come at this from a different direction
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