Just so you know .....

1. A Pisces cannot be manipulated, I guarantee this.
2. We most certainly can manipulate you into believing whatever we choose for you to believe.

That being said ....

1. If we emotionally swim away from you because you are attempting to manipulate us in some way ..... we are gone from caring about you, forever.

2. If you attempt to continue "playing" us, eventhough we've left the building ... we might "pretend" to return to you, to fuck you because we left, and you decided not to allow it.


These words are only in place here because of late, it appears there are alot of people in here trying to push Pisces people around by using manipulative tactics to get us to respond to them ... and the thing is .. if we come back after we've swam away, then it is at your own risk.

This is for information purposes only, and not intended to be specifically aimed at any one person ... it is for people to understand, so they won't get injured.

Whatever the reason is why we swam .... if we did, then we're gone. And once we make this decision to leave, for whatever reason ... we disconnect any feelings we have for you, there is no association to us that you have any relevancy to us to care about what you say or do ...... so, if you attempt to control, manipulate, or push us in any way to "care" ..... we will fuck you over, I promise you this.


Your best bet is to walk away .... if your Fish swam away, I'm speaking emotionally here .. if we tell you we don't "care", then protect your heart, protect yourself from pain and injury, and walk away.

"don't confuse that confession with feeling BAD about doing those things that hurt you"

"he is upset about being put into the position of seeing you hurt...but he doesn't comprehend his responsibility for causing that pain by not being honest in the first place."


Yep .. that is fact.

And this confusion does exist to non-Pisces people because they exist in a reality of principals that is oblivious to us .. so, when a Pisces sees that you have been hurt by us, and we console you, you think we are feeling remorse for our bad deed, in itself .. but, we're not for we didn't recognize this deed as bad in the first place ... we console you because you are in front of us, crying.

If we couldn't see you, if you didn't contact us with your pain ... then we wouldn't even think about it.

Bijou .. it is horrible. Imagine how I feel, being one?

This has to be accepted, if reality is to be faced.

We do this, whether we want to accept it or not ... perhaps, this is WHY we have such vivid dreams and fantasies all the time ..

.. the fantasies are our escapes routes .. from ourselves, so we don't have to face how selfish we are with "care" for another person.

"A Pisces cannot be manipulated, I guarantee this."

What does your guarantee consist of...do I get a monetary payment or what?

I may have something to challenge your assertion and guarantee, I'll let you know if and when that comes to be and would likely be able to have a dxp fish verify it. Just wanted to know what the guarantee consists of?

"A Pisces can be gullible, and can believe in lies .."


It appears to be so, however, not in the sense in which most people would interpret this .. people would read this and think - we would believe a lie told to us from another, which makes us gullible. I don't believe this to be the case .. we are always looking behind words and actions .. if something is told to us, rare is the day we take it at face value, and will attempt to uncover the motivation for this being told to us.

The sense in which I believe your statement to be true ... is we lie to ourselves, which makes us gullible. For instance .. we would believe that another is in need of us, and we would place ourselves upon another person, truly believing that we are helping them, or assisting them in some way ... when in reality, the other person never asked us to be there for them, they never wanted us to "do" for them any kind of favors, or needed our help.

And that ^^^^^ is indeed another one of our blind-spots, in which we cannot comprehend ... and when we do this, and we are taken advantage of for our kindness .. we actually believe we have been taken advantage of to feel pain .. when in reality, we weren't taken by another, we were taken by ourselves because we put ourselves out there for our own benefit of being needed, and not really for the other person.

Really, bijou ... in all honesty .. we are so self-contained within our own feelings, that revolve around ourselves, exclusively .. we are terribly selfish .. seriously so. But, we don't know, we have no awareness of it, we think we are the complete opposite.

But, selfless cannot be possible, if we are self-contained with emotions, for the very condition itself defines self-centered.

Da hell?

OMG....IAN THE FISH IS SOOOOOO CUTE!

Just had to say it. 😉

Thanks for all your guidance so far. I could use a bit more if you fishes don't mind, please . . .

I have a fish in mind and I would like to better understand the idea of "swimming away."

Clearly a complete break in all contact would be a fish long gone, but mine maintains occasional contact and is responsive to me (1-2 per month, evenly split between us). Just checking in, friendly, how have you been. He does sometimes ask, "how are the boys" (meaning how is the dating going for me), but no flirting.

It was not a relationship, we dated only a few weeks (but acquainted about 2 years, mutual friends). He has made no advances or overtures beyond maintaining a friendship, but even that is from a distance. There is no reason for him to be in touch per say, but he still is -sometimes. He may simply appreciate my own kindness to him in the recent past? I assisted with a personal/ legal matter with a referal months after we stopped dating, at his request.

He broke it off, kindly. Told me he was "backing away from this" 4 months ago over a nice meal. As an aries sun (impetuous, impatient, did not let him chase), I probably went about it all wrong. But I also learned since he was not quite as available as I thought either. And that has not changed since he first asked me out, and courted me a bit. As I indicated, I now keep the same level of friendly contact he offers (unlike before I confess) but he understands I was (is?) still interested.

I'd like to believe I am still on his mind.

but tell me . . .

has he swam ??


**sorry for a long question. do not mean to jack the post. Thanks!✨*

Hola mi burro!! I've missed you much!!

If there's ever been a sign that has its head stuck up its own az its pisces! Jezus chryst! ...you people really believe your own hype.

First off.....

A pisces can be manipulated. Let me explain. Pisces are masters at their levels of manipulation this is true. But the thing is, they can't manipulate the level! They never initiate...therefore they never set the playing field. They are REACTORS they react (manipulatively) to what you give them.

So really they think they are doing something that's so far out of comprehension for everyone else....but what they're really just pawns in the game you set. There is always someone 4 steps ahead of a pisces becauses they are not initiators. They are manipulative reactors...which makes them putty in the hands of a master manipulating initiator.

Look at the symbol for the sign.....a fish. I have about 4 fish in my apartment right now...in a tank...I feed them when I want...I clean the tank when I want...they are in the tank of my choosing...I chose the sand...the things for them 2 play with etc...

Sure they could stop eating because they hate the food that I give them.....but they would DIE because they have no way of getting food for themselves. They can swim around all day and not realize that they are repetitive and stuck..and going in circles doing the same thing day in and day out.

And even the most dangerous of fish can't survive out of the water. Take it out of its element and its good as gone...perhaps even a tasty lunch.

Even if they win the battle, they can never win the war. The pisces wife that is upset with her husband, may reject him in small ways...may out manipulate him in small ways....but in the end she's still stuck on his playing field. He's still the head honcho and she's still upset.

The pisces boyfriend that treats his girlfriend coldly will only increase in bad bahavior when she pays attention 2 him. Give him time and he will be back because he's stuck on the level she sets.....he manipulates cuz he's too weak to initiate.

If someone manipulates the whole shabang....set up the entire situation...pisces doesn't have a chance.

Where would the world be without irony?



Lucky Libra 9/26/2008 11:16:39 AM | ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

why would i let a person control me lol i can do that

but starfish you can get your feelings hurt and still be strong, its how you act when they are hurt

"First of all...unless a pisces isnt human (which is more than likely so) he or she can be manipulated...cuz ALL human beings can be manipulated"

Exactly.

Pisces are just as capable of being manipulated as any other sign, and I'm pretty sure most in here have been themselves at some point.........whether they know it (or choose to believe it) or not.

Apparantly, the point of this thread has been missed.

It's not meant in the literal sense that Pisceans cannot be played .. it's meant in the sense that once realization comes to us that another is playing us ... this game will not continue on our end.

That is .. unless you continue to attempt to play us and won't let us swim away.

At that point ^^^^ if you attempt to force us or control us and not let us go .. we WILL manipulate you, we will "pretend" to care about you, we WILL decieve you >>>>>>>>>> to get you hurt enough to let us swim away.

What motivated me to write this thread ... there were people in here expressing how they were being emotionally injured by their Fish, while outlining through their descriptions of their relationship .. that their Fish was finished with the relationship and trying to swim. But, the people wouldn't let them go, and kept pressuring the Fish for a commitment, relentlessly.

So, I wrote this thread ... telling these people, as a warning so their hearts would no longer get hurt ... a Pisces, if pressured, when they want to swim .. WILL manipulate you, we will fuck with you if you don't let us go.

For some reason, people took this to mean literally .. eventhough, after the opening, I went on to explain what I meant.

::sighs::

Ah ok I get you.

Still, Pisceans are sometimes their own worst enemy if you ask me. I mean all this talk about "swimming away" let's be honest some don't do this literally, rather they just become distant or whatever and hope that their partner gets the message.

If they actually just came out and said "erm not happy, it's over, bye" surely there would be no need for it to get taken thus far.

Indeed, Sweet-T .. that's why I tried to clarify a couple times in the OP ...... "emotionally" .. if we "emotionally" swim away.

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That being said ....

1. If we emotionally swim away from you because you are attempting to manipulate us in some way ..... we are gone from caring about you, forever.


Your best bet is to walk away .... if your Fish swam away, I'm speaking emotionally here .. if we tell you we don't "care", then protect your heart, protect yourself from pain and injury, and walk away.

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For, it won't be a verbal confirmation like you said. So, I was trying to tell these people ... if we emotionally swim away and say things like ... "I don't care"

My aim in creating this thread was to help these people, by telling them a cold-hard-truth about Pisces people so they will protect themselves from further injury.


If people choose to believe it is anything else, eventhough I said in the OP that it was in place to protect these people ... then sobeit ... that is their choice to believe whatever they want to believe.

Yeah I get you. I think that's half the battle with a Pisces to be honest, we just expect people to "get it" and that's not the case more often than not.

How's it going, Sweetums?

Isn't that the truth with any sign tho. Once a person stays after the relationship is over mentally they are just waiting on a disaster...

Humans are creatures of habit & sometimes we all stay after things have ended. This usually makes things either indifferent or worse.

This isn't just a pisces thing...

"Humans are creatures of habit & sometimes we all stay after things have ended. This usually makes things either indifferent or worse"

Yeah I've been guilty of that in the past myself.

SS I'm doing ok thanks, what about you? 🙂

I'm great. 🙂 Trying to live a drama-free life. Thanks for asking.

Pffft I've been trying to do that since I was born lol, never happens though. 😛

lol

"And even the most dangerous of fish can't survive out of the water. Take it out of its element and its good as gone...perhaps even a tasty lunch."

I wasn't aware that the leading cause of death for Pisces was cannibalism. The more you know!

"Even if they win the battle, they can never win the war. The pisces wife that is upset with her husband, may reject him in small ways...may out manipulate him in small ways....but in the end she's still stuck on his playing field. He's still the head honcho and she's still upset."

Will he still be the head honcho (whatever that's supposed to mean) when she'll pack her bags and leave his ass? Oh, but I forget, that's an unlikely scenario for poor little widdle pisces!

lol

:: looks at all the threads in here addressing the real-life issue that their Pisces is gone >>>> left .. and wonders how this is possible ::

Whatever the reason is why we swam .... if we did, then we're gone. And once we make this decision to leave, for whatever reason ... we disconnect any feelings we have for you, there is no association to us that you have any relevancy to us to care about what you say or do ...... so, if you attempt to control, manipulate, or push us in any way to "care" ..... we will treetrunk you over, I promise you this.

*coming from a younger pisces-"whatever the reason is why we swam...if we did, then we're gone." Only after we have given all that we had and there is nothing left to give-I Guarantee this-and I know this about me and my Pisces girlfriends-a Pisces girl will keep plugging into a relationship, for the better or worse if she still believes that it has hope to survive. We'll only "disconnect any feelings we have for you" after we have come to the conclusion that the love we had together is dead and there is no way that it can be revived-when we finally reach the point to say and believe that it is over. but buddy, if we pisces see any kind of life in that love or potential that it can work-we will keep plugging away at it. We will try to make it work as best we can, if we can. Yeah, we'll leave, but my saying with relationships has been "I'll walk away, but I'll look back to see if you'll come after me". I don't know about other Pisces girls, but when things are looking bad or not working out, this is what I want. I want my man to come after me and make me feel like a Princess again, or needed. Pisces girls that I know and myself don't give up on love that easily.

Your best bet is to walk away .... if your Fish swam away, I'm speaking emotionally here .. if we tell you we don't "care", then protect your heart, protect yourself from pain and injury, and walk away. (buzz sounds) WRONG!! P-ANGEL AND YOUR BAD ADVICE! NO! NO! NO! If your fish swam away, then buddy-GO AFTER HER! GO AFTER HER AND THERE IS A CHANCE YOU CAN SAVE YOUR RELATIONSHIP. P-ANGEL, ALL YOU WANT IS ALL RELATIONSHIPS TO FAIL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE AS MISERABLE AND SAD AS YOU AND JOIN YOUR PITY PARTY! I KNOW YOU GIVE BAD ADVICE PURPOSELY. OLD HAG! WE ONLY WALK AWAY FROM LOVE FOR GOOD-WHEN IT CANNOT BE REVIVED AND WE SEE NO HOPE IN CONTINUING THE RELATIONSHIP-THEN WE DO WHAT P-ANGEL HAS SAID. DON'T WALK AWAY THOUGH-NOT IF YOUR PISCES TRULY LOVES YOU-THAT'S THE WORST THING YOU COULD DO. DON'T GIVE UP UNTIL YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO GIVE. GIVE UNTIL THE LAST DROP-

"Yeah, we'll leave, but my saying with relationships has been "I'll walk away, but I'll look back to see if you'll come after me". I don't know about other Pisces girls, but when things are looking bad or not working out, this is what I want. I want my man to come after me and make me feel like a Princess again, or needed"


lol, don't worry .. you'll grow your adult fins one day.

Just want to say Hi to everyone finally decided to join up! P-Angel your 100% right, agree with you all the way.

I dont think that love really allows for manipulation, if you do try to manipulate or get manipulated, then I would think there is some problems that need to be worked out, asap. I agree that it is better to let ppl 'swim', once someone has gone cold for w/e reason, even if these two ppl get back together, that scar will always be there on the surface, as a reminder, things will not ever be the same way as they were before.