Pisces?

I know bi-polar disorder is probably common among people of all zodiac signs...but I'm just wondering if anyone has noticed this type of behavior in pisces especially?

My best-friend (well maybe not so much anymore) is a male pisces (Feb. 21) We have been friends for about 8 years now.
I swear he is my soulmate, I have never had a connection with anyone like I have with him. We finish eachothers sentences, we think the same thoughts, we have the same dreams...basically we're on our own frequency. None of our friends will even hang with me and him together because they end up feeling left out or out of the loop.

Anyways, everything will be fine with us, (we never have reason to fight/argue simply because we basically never disagree) except my boyfriend is involved. He will start problems with my boyfriend - which obviously causes me problems - with no regard for my feelings and what position that will put me in.
He has done this multiple times - the last time he did I just stopped speaking to him, because my boyfriend was in Iraq and I found it very disrespectful and pathetic. It took him like 6 months to apologize but eventually he did.
And then not even a fucking week after we start talking and hanging out again, he does the same damn thing - and this time stops speaking to me - ignores my calls, texts, and deletes me from his myspace and facebook (like we're 15 again.)

I swear he is bi-polar. It's like he intentionally sabotages good things in his life. Maybe he's bored?

Anyone else have a similar experience with a pisces? I don't know what to do because he's my bestfriend, and I don't want to lose him over something so petty. But he's doing it!

His actions actually aren't symptoms of bi-polar disorder, sounds like a guy that likes you that doesn't know how to tell you and hopes you'll realize it one day too through is asinine actions.

Unless you are leaving out a lot of important details that pertain to the situation, I agree with Alir0x.

Yeah he does like me. That's how we met. We had mutual friends and he liked me and wanted to date me. I realized that he was more of a friend to me and it could never be anything else. I'm not attracted to him physically at all. I don't know why - because he's actually pretty attractive - and my type: tall dark and handsome. Maybe it's water versus fire?
I'd think he'd be over it by now though. The last time he even tried to date me was like 4 years ago. He is clearly jealous of my boyfriend, and I understand that, but why would he jeopordize our friendship over it? He's crazy. I swear.

We had just hung out one night (after not talking for months due to his rediculous behavior before) and talked for like 6 hours and everything was perfect - it was just like old times. Then, seriously, the next weekend, he is texting my boyfriend starting problems...calling him names like a child...
I texted him with a sad face afterwards and asked him to apologize and fix the whole situation because he was putting me in a bad place...and that it was my birthday the next week and I wanted him to be there. He didn't even respond. Just deleted me from his pages and ignored my texts and calls. What a prick. 😢 This hurts worse than a breakup I think.

It's either or, you cannot have it both ways

wow - found this out the wrong way too...knew this Pisces friend dude I never for one sec thought he wanted more, until the day he blew up on me and called all sorts of names...I thought OMG ! then someone else pointed it out to me too...

briana, don't even try to be logical, it may be lost on him...unless you know how to reach his emotions, I would let it be or you end up being the one apologising to him. He's responsible for getting a hold on his emotions...sorry about that.

Bipolarism isnt in just pisces people. Ive seen it in Virgos, Geminis, Cancers, etc.

I really care about him and I really wish it wasn't like this. I think all the time how he would make an absolutely perfect boyfriend...but I just can't see him like that.
I've tried, trust me. I've gone over it in head more times than I can count. Especially after all these other guys let me down or piss me off I think well they're not all like that...and *ding* he pops into my head...and I think about what a nice guy he is and how well we get along and how we could talk for 24-hours straight and still have stuff to say, and he can make me laugh so hard it hurts. I don't want to lose his friendship over this...I'll miss him so much. 😢 I just don't want to date him...ironically among the many reasons why is I wouldn't want it to not work out and really ruin everything.

He idealizes anyways. I watch him do this with every other female, I know he has idealized me as well. I'm betting if we became romantically involved he'd be very surprised/dissapointed that it's not like he thought it was going to be.


I'm torn about this. It sucks big time.

Thanks. Tell me about it. :/
The wierd thing is he has a girlfriend...maybe that's what's making it worse. Maybe he's not happy with her

Well being his "bestfriend" who would know better if he's not happy with someone than you eh? But seriously, you know he likes you, and not to be rude, but you possibly sort of like the dual attention or else you would have put a severe and quick end to it. If a relationship with someone who i know potentially likes me is causing stress in my other relationship then I address that subject directly, and not tip toe around it in hopes that matter will have gone away. Be upfront, honest, and open; if he chooses not to respect your relationship then you will not what to do.

Myself for example, sometimes I don't realize i'm doing something that someone does not like, until they bring it to my attention. I'm thankful that they do because that gives me the ability know and correct. And as a pisces, i subconsciously file that, and I honestly never do it again. But you need to make someone aware, and let them take corrective measure. Not fair to assume one knows what you're thinking, or even worse knows what you're thinking they think.

Best friends for 8 years, soul-like connection.


Maybe it's not him at all .. maybe it's your boyfriend bringing him on because a man is best-friends with his woman.

When you hear about your bestfriend doing things like texting your boyfriend ... who is telling you about this? Your boyfriend?

In 8 years time, have you had other other boyfriends? YOu've made no mention of Pisces man doing this with other boyfriends.

And it seems very odd that with this current boyfriend, that if it were a case of Pisces man being jealous of you because you have a boyfriend then it seems pretty illogical that he would only be expressing jealousy randomly ... as you've stated above.

Peopel don't work that way when they are yearning, which reduces them to jealousy, brianafay ..... they would present this demeanor ALL THE TIME you were girlfriend to another man. He doesn't do this all the time, and there are even times where it appears as though he was just into your friendship and couldn't care a less that there was a boyfriend present = not wanting you that way, in which you would like to entertain.

However, boyfriend is away in Iraq, and girlfriend at home, all alone, is spending private time with best friend = a man.

Suddenly, you are hearing about how this bestfriend man is being dispictable to boyfriend, so that you will get mad at best friend man and stop spending time with him while boyfriend away.


I'd be willing to wager that this is all about your boyfriend being upset and is egging Pisces man on, to force Pisces to respond to him antagonistically, and as soon as he does, boyfriend tells you that Pisces man is being an asshole to him.

I'd be willing to wager that if you got ahold of boyfriends texts, you'd find boyfriend starts the shit ... because I'm telling you .. a man pining away for a love interest doesn't wait 8 years to get jealous, and he doesn't do it arbitrarily.

Ali:
I was best friends with him years before I met my boyfriend. It's not about male attention - as I don't even see him like that. It would be the same thing if he were a female who didn't get along with my boyfriend. I do not enjoy this at all. I have been very straight with him. On my end I have never given him any reason to think we would ever be involved romantically. In fact, since he's tried to date me so many times, we have had MANY heart-to-hearts about how I just want him to be my best friend forever and I would never do anything to ruin that - I like our relationship the way it is.
I never put a "severe quick end" to it because I don't want to lose him! It's that simple. He is the best friend I've ever had and I don't think I'll have find this kind of connection again. I hate that he gets those feelings for me. I wish I could change it.

P-Angel:
My boyfriend does have an opinion about him, of course. He bad-mouths him and calls him a "social reject" because he himself is clearly jealous of the relationship between me and my friend. However, he is only allowed to express this opinion for about 30 seconds before I ask him nicely not to talk about my best friend because it makes me uncomfortable. The same goes with my friend. I do not allow him to talk bad about my boyfriend in front of me. He has expressed jealousy before with other boyfriends just more mildly. He would just make comments about them and make fun of them every chance he got. But he never got this rediculous. I think you're most likely right though about my boyfriend egging him on. He talks shit back and threatens him and my friend knows he talks about him and knows he is jealous of our friendship - so he feeds off it I'm sure.
When he started problems while my boyfriend was in Iraq it was through email and I saw the email. I did confront my friend to make sure my boyfriend didn't start it and was just leaving that part out...and he admitted to me he just thought it would be "funny" to mess with my boyfriend, since he is so uptight about me and him spending so much time together. So it's definately both of them.

I just feel like since theyre both supposed to love me and have my best interest in mind - why are they putting me in this position? Why would my "best" friend stop talking to me over this? I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just trying to include both of them in my life since they both mean alot to me. It's not fair what they're doing.

*resurrecting another ancient thread*


So, about this pisces - I still haven't spoken to him. He hasn't tried to call/text/email me or anything, like he normally does after he does this.
I miss him terribly. I really wish I knew what I did so I could apologize and make things right.
The thing is...I don't think I actually did anything wrong. I really think he just decided he didn't want to be my friend anymore...

I saw him on my cousin's facebook the other day, so I requested to add him as a friend and wrote him a little message along with saying: "Hey how've you been? PS: you're rude if you don't." (Meaning, he's rude if he denies me...I know this would have made him smile, normally.)

Wellllllllll he denied me...and wrote back: "You're not worth it." (What does that even mean?!!!)


I'm seriously devastated. I rarely get emotional over people. I just accept that people are people and they act like assholes sometimes...
This one's really getting to me.

Someone help! What should I do? Just let it go/forget about him? Write him a heartfelt email? 😢




(P-angel - I know you'll tell me the truth if I fucked up and can't see it. )

Posted by GuessMe26
Im thinking there might be more of a story behind this situation...

I know that the only reason I would ever speak or act like that to someone is if they truely hurt me far too many times. Even for 8 years I would tolerate someone paining me if I thought there might be a possibility of something more with them.
But eventually enough is enough and we will become that great white lying beneath the surface waiting to attack. We can only handle so much both mentally and physically. We are nicer then most when it comes to our ability to forgive and forget but we will begin to notice if your taking advantage of that ability we pocess and dump you on the side of the road and walk away

I agree, he's acting hurt... because why else would he attempt to hurt me?
If he just didn't want to talk to me, he'd just ignore the message all-together.

But seriously, I've revealed the whole story, as far as I'm concerned. If I've hurt him somehow, I'm really confused as to what I did.

I've been trying to figure it out...and the only thing I can think of is he really hates my boyfriend. He's stopped talking to me over it before...but always came back and apologized. I appreciate that he cares about me and may only be trying to protect me, but that is a rediculous reason to end a friendship.

You think of yourself as ................

"It's like he intentionally sabotages good things in his life. "






The truth .......

"You're not worth it."

😢

That sucks.
What does that even mean? I thought we were better friends than we actually were?

So, maybe he was never really my friend, and in that case I shouldn't think he's worth it either... right?

It means you think higher of yourself than he thinks of you.


I would venture to imagine that you thinking the two men were jealous of each other over you had a great amount to do with it .... because for you to think this highly of yourself would mean that you acted like it.


He's not jealous, nor was he ever interested in being jealous of your boyfriend .....




8 months ago, when you first brought this issue to our awareness, I questioned you about whether your boyfriend was goading the Pisces man, and you confirmed this was the case ...... you did nothing to stop it, just ignored Pisces man, rather than actually doing anything to protect this man to whom you called a soulmate.


That pretty much makes you not so much in the Pisces eyes.

My boyfriend never antagonized pisces... you misunderstood what I was saying. My boyfriend talked about him, yes, and in defending himself was very nasty with Pisces. Pisces knew my boyfriend did not like him, and therefore, would antagonize my boyfriend.

I never allowed my boyfriend to talk about my friend, and I really tried to prevent him from even responding to my friend's efforts most of the time. I feel I was actually a little unfair to my boyfriend, if anyone, because I would get mad at him for talking about my friend, but would laugh if my friend made fun of my boyfriend. (He is very witty)


But, thanks, your post helps me see how he may viewing things from a Pisces POV.
Which is totally twisted from what's really going on, as I am clearly not the person he has made me to be in his head. Which is fine, he isn't who I thought he was - obviously.


I'm still sad, because I will miss who I thought he was.
But I guess if he thinks I'm "not worth it," there is really nothing left to be said/done.

"Which is totally twisted from what's really going on, as I am clearly not the person he has made me to be in his head."

Actually, you are the one who has this twisted from what's really going on, and you are the one who had a false image in the head, not him.

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You think of yourself as ................

"It's like he intentionally sabotages good things in his life. "






The truth .......

"You're not worth it."


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You are the one who thought you were so much all that .... that these men were jealous of each other over you .... when in reality, it was really just your own ego ...... because he thinks you aren't worth any effort.

And second .. it's you who is trying to mend a bridge, and missing, and upset about losing something ... while he doesn't even give a damn.

If you are the one still hanging on to this, while he doesn't even give a fuck .... then it would be easily assessed that your boyfriend is still aware of his presence in your mind and heart ... which means, you are likely still putting Pisces man in your boyfriends face.



You are confused here ... you think you are suppose to matter, big mistake to a Pisces ... only they have the right to decide who matters to them.

"My boyfriend never antagonized pisces... you misunderstood what I was saying."


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"He bad-mouths him and calls him a "social reject" because he himself is clearly jealous of the relationship between me and my friend. However, he is only allowed to express this opinion for about 30 seconds before I ask him nicely not to talk about my best friend because it makes me uncomfortable. The same goes with my friend. I do not allow him to talk bad about my boyfriend in front of me. He has expressed jealousy before with other boyfriends just more mildly. He would just make comments about them and make fun of them every chance he got. But he never got this rediculous. I think you're most likely right though about my boyfriend egging him on. He talks shit back and threatens him and my friend knows he talks about him and knows he is jealous of our friendship - so he feeds off it I'm sure."

Once a Pisces decides not to care about a person .... then you are pretty much finished as having any importance.


A Pisces might venture back from time to time, we wonder around alot to see how things are faring ...... but, it isn't the same, once we lost respect for you, we really don't care. We might pretend that we do to get something from you, if you are fool enough to give to a person to whom you fucked over .... but, we really don't care.


A Pisces ONLY cares about a person who cares about us .... if you don't care about us, we couldn't give a flying fuck about you .... if you care about us, and for us, we will wrap the whole world around you, faithfully.



No inbetween .... all or nothing.

Again, I'm glad I get to see another POV and maybe this is how he sees it too.
What I meant by twisted is that in his mind I have hurt him somehow...when I have done nothing wrong...
He might think I've had bad intentions or somehow hurt him intentionally - but only I know my heart and trust me this is not the case.

The only false image I think I have is that we were actually friends and he cared about me as much as I cared about him - valued our friendship as much as I did. But If he says I'm not worth it - this means he never valued our friendship. & I'm glad I know this now. I won't fret over it anymore.



I can't agree that I have an over-inflated ego and this is all my fault. The pisces wrote me poetry for years, always professing his love and admiration for me. This impression did not arise from an ego.

Posted by P-Angel

A Pisces ONLY cares about a person who cares about us .... if you don't care about us, we couldn't give a flying fuck about you .... if you care about us, and for us, we will wrap the whole world around you, faithfully.

It seems like you're implying I don't care about him/for him...
If he is thinking this way as well, that is total bullshit. It's almost as if he expected me to let him send all the antagonizing emails and texts and then dump my boyfriend if he reacted? And if I stay with my boyfriend, I don't care about my friend— Complete and utter bullshit. My boyfriend has been rude to pisces and has said some pretty shitty stuff...but never unprovoked. So, I find that quite hypocritical of picses, if he is indeed thinking this way.

Thanks for your time P. You're only calling it how you see it, not knowing me or my real character in all.
I will take your advice and let it go.

To be honest, I'm not sure I want a friend like that anyway, as if we were ever really friends at all. *shrugs*

Don't confuse my responses to you as it being my assessment of your character .... you ask for Piscean insight and this is what I gave you. How he would likely be processing it, and how I might if I were in that situation .. keeping in mind that what you have provided here is limited information and only ONE side to the story = your side.

Pisceans, for the most part, is about truth .. to others they may seem to be about deception, but, this is in error.

Take this for example ...... you would expect me to view this from ONE side of the equation, and when I cannot analyze this from just your side and would attempt to find a truth for the other side ... you would think my assessments are false, or twisted.

When in reality .... it would be my nature to seek the real truth, which includes BOTH sides of the equation.



When I say a false image of yourself, and inflated ego, I am referring to this comment of yours, which does indeed appears to be quite egotistical ...

"It's like he intentionally sabotages good things in his life."

When you said that ^^^ you were referring to yourself and your relationship with him. Meaning, you think of yourself as being a good thing in his life. This is your assessment of yourself and how you interpret your importance to another person, when in reality, you, nor anybody else, can determine the importance they have in another persons life ... only the person living it can make that determination. Now, you can make the assessment of how important he is to your life, but, not the other way around.

To you ... you think you were one of his life's good things ... in reality, he thinks you aren't worth any effort .... so, in this same reality, you actually had a false image of yourself and the role you played in his life.

Understand?



"and this is all my fault."

Excuse me? If you want to take personally everything I have said to you, after you ASKED me to chime in and tell you where I think you fucked up, and to make the claim that I insinuated that went down is all your fault, when in reality, I was merely telling you your portion of error ... then I will take the same road as him and tell you .... fuck off, you're not worth any effort.

No, I didn't take it personal at all.

I understand what you mean now.
I guess I thought I was important to him, a good thing in his life, because he was important to me and a good thing to me. But as he claims now, that's obviously not the case.
I'm naive I guess? Usually when someone actively pursues a friendship with you for 8 years, you assume you matter to them. He mattered to me. 😢



Seriously, though, thank you. I asked for your advice specifically because I knew you'd see something I didn't. It's good to see things how he might see them.

I still don't understand his reasoning, but no one else can help me with that. Who knows what he's really thinking.
So much for soulmates/ ha.

IDK... granted I'm not a Pisces but a fellow water sign (🙂) so....
It seems to me that he DID like her and tried alot of different angles to "get to her". When he started problems with the bf or vise versa and he "lost" after all the time and effort he put into trying to win her he got sick of it, felt betrayed by her when she didn't tell her bf to fuck off for fighting with her friend and decided it wasn't worth it.... which he told her. It sounds like he's just done. He didn't get his way so he's completely done with her.


Or maybe that's the Scorp way. Black and white.... either they are together or nothing at all.
Just my input brianafay. Something to think about I suppose.

I know what it's like to have a guy bestie and the bf/fiance/husband not liking it. Luckily my Taurus guy is pretty much gay (he's in the closet) and my Aries isn't threatened by him at all. So our friendship works. I'm afraid if Taurus wasn't gay Aries wouldn't be happy about that at all. Stupid boys! 😛

^One of our mutual friends thinks the same thing.

Because he does have a girlfriend, whom he's been with now for almost a year. So maybe he's just happy/ and officially over it.
That bothers me, if that's the case, because I thought he was over it years ago. If that was the only reason he was sticking around - in hopes we'd be together one day...that's royally fucked. 😢 I'd be more hurt by that idea, than if he just decided he didn't want to talk to me.

I think he just made up some shit in his head and decided our friendship wasn't worth any effort. (Most likely due to my BF)
Whatever. See what I mean about moodiness...? I would never do that to a friend. So in a sense, I'm glad it's over. I don't want a friend like that. Plain and simple. It's not like we were aquaintances, we were BESTfriends.

Posted by P-Angel


"You are confused here ... you think you are suppose to matter, big mistake to a Pisces ... only they have the right to decide who matters to them."

A Pisces ONLY cares about a person who cares about us .... if you don't care about us, we couldn't give a flying fuck about you .... if you care about us, and for us, we will wrap the whole world around you, faithfully.

No inbetween .... all or nothing.

Wow. Just wow.
Okay, brianafay, I realize that P-Angel can get a little extra-crispy and about as subtle as a sledgehammer sometimes, but she nailed Pisces' feelings and reactions beautifully. Whether your Pisces loves you or not (I say "loves" because unfortunately, we can't just POOF not love someone. What we CAN do is stop subjecting ourselves to it, stop reacting to it, AND SWIM AWAY) is irrelevant at this point. He may have loved you, loves you still, but you admitted to 8 years of his wishing and pining, and his jealous behaviors because of this last boyfriend... and at some point he finally decided that you're not worth the heartache and withdrew. Okay, so I was very Pisces there and said "you're" not worth it, like P-A did. While it sounds rude and hurtful, it's much more than that. Pisces are long-suffering by nature. We will take crumbs and only crumbs until one day we simply cannot take it anymore. Not only are YOU no longer worth it in his eyes... your friendship is not worth it, talking to you is not worth it, being around you is not worth it, anything associated with you is not worth it to him.

IT = the pain and frustration of being in love with his "best friend" for years and she's repeatedly told him she does not reciprocate. He finally got it through his head, brianafay. I know you miss and want your bestbestbestfriend back -- but honestly, he can't take it anymore, and why would you want him to continue to hurt like that? It's hard for you to see, because you don't share his feelings for you. But if you're his best friend for real, if your friendlove of eight years is strong and true, Ms. Sagittarius, let him go. Don't be selfish, don't put your wants above his needs. Let him go to hurt and heal and lick his wounds... and maybe find a nice (LOL) Scorpio or Libra or Cancer girl who WILL love him and all his Pisces intensity and insanity. 🙂

Thanks. I understand. 😢

I did care about him deeply. He's one of the few people I've let myself get attached to for years. So obviously this is devastating.
But you're right, I cannot expect him to be friends with me for years wanting more. That would suck.
I really wish he never had those feelings for me in the first place, because our friendship was truly one of a kind. I guess that's just the way it goes sometimes.
I don't regret not dating him, however, because I doubt it would have worked out romantically and I would have lost him either way. I had to stay true to me first. I guess I had faith he really meant it (& obviously believed it) when he said "I'd rather have you in my life as a friend than not at all." Sounded like something from a movie. He was a cool ass dude. I truly hope he's found happiness...and he's only do what's best for him.

He's dating an aries, btw. I always thought he needed an aries - he did love to be smacked around. Haha. 🙂

Okay, I'm going to risk talking out of my ass for a second here and say:

No, it wouldn't have worked out romantically for you two. Pisces and Sag can be GREAT friends; I have several Sag friends, including my BEST friend of twenty years! Romantically, it's arsenic, slow poison. Deep-seated incompatibility failure. YOU recognized it long before HE did. (He tried to tell himself it would work - his idealizing ways - but you wouldn't budge. Kudos to you, actually!)

As for the Aries.. hrm. He's probably still taking crumbs (we DO that - ARGH, WHY?!) And some exciting drama keeps away the boredom. But I don't have great hopes for that relationship working out, either. Oh, he might limp along, maybe even for years... but Pisces are whack-job insane and almost no one can understand them. Aries may be charmed by his eccentricity right now (like seeing a fish walk on dry land for the first time LOL), but she'll tire of his moodiness and his "downstream" phases and the way he bottles things up and rarely lets anyone inside. He'll tire of her brutal bluntness, insensitivity, and her dramatastic anger. Even more incompatible than Pisces and Sag LOL