The importance of stability.

While it may seem we treat people in nice way by not showing certain decisions we make in our heads, it's mostly bad idea in business world. I would say it's a bad idea even in human to human relationships. In business world the guessing game is a no no for people who value their time and efforts. I say, most people would give up on guessing about people and just move to the next person which is not good outcome for a one who needs it.

Now I see why. And I think Pisces lacks the most of this. Please be more open with people when things happen around you.

Haffo, I'm pretty open with people around me, and everybody gets treated exactly as I process them in my head .. but, thanks for the advice.

"Haffo, I'm pretty open with people around me, and everybody gets treated exactly as I process them in my head .."

Like a silent treatment?

What are you talking about?

What silent treatment are you referring to?

However .. yes. If I process somebody not worthy to have a conversation with then I won't talk to them.

I wasn't specific. And I wasn't attacking. It was like "does one of your ways of treatment include silent ones?" question.

I didn't say anything about attacking, Haffo .. I was asking if you were referring to something in particular.

Yes, a silent treatment does come from me sometimes. However, it's not a game, like I'm silent one minute and talkative the next, as if I'm trying to play someone to get a certain type of response from them.

Normally, when a silent treatment comes from me it's because I'm done with them and never utter a word to them again .. and if I do, it's cold. Silence is pretty much the Piscean weapon .. most of us do it. When we want to make a point, instead of fighting .. we just swim away .. that's our point .. we're finished with you.

That's what I'm opposing to P-Angel. People may not understand the way they are treated and simply waste more recources on you for nothing. It's much better to say them "fuck off" than trying to make them to understood this themselves. Things may take time, and time is very important in business world.

Well, for me .. getting to the "fuck off" part takes a lot. I have to be backed into a corner, or, the person has to prove over and time again that they are a bumbling idoit. Unless I'm defending another person's honour .. if I'm protecting someone else's integrity, I'll launch a full assault with little concern about consequences. And then circumstances play a part too. In some situations, I will just bow out gracefully and NOT allow my mouth to shoot off .. it depends. If they are an authoritive figure of some sort .. I will still say what I feel I need to, however, choose my words more wisely and be very careful of my tone.

You know, words don't mean much .. it's tone. I've looked people straight in the face and told them to go fuck themselves, laughing all the while .. nobody got offended. At other times, you can say something really nice to someone, but, if the tone is mocking then they will be insulted. There's a way to get points across without getting into trouble.

Hey, I was somewhere else and didn't catch that .. what you got hidden?

I think I get what you're saying, haffo.


You are saying it is best to be straightforward with people. Even blunt if necessary. You are saying that if you think/feel it, express it. Verbally.

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You can't agree with this and then hide something, lol

Hypocrite 🙂🙂🙂

It depends on circumstances .. for this particular thread, I get the feeling is based around Haffo losing his job because he mouthed off to his boss.

Haffo, your boss really doesn't need to know how you feel about him, personally. Personal feelings aren't really relevant in the work place, as much as, your job itself.

I believe this is all about trying to find justification ..

Why exactly did you curse the boss, or whatever it was that got you let go? Did he assault you personally? Or, were you just frustrated about something?

Well now reading your posts, I have started to think a bit different. According to my previous posts, 90% of people are stupid. Stupid people are usually lack stability. Now if we ignore stupid people, this means ignoring 90% of people which is not effective.

Efficiency vs. Right

Who wins?

But nothing stops at being stable of myself.

And what measurement do you use to make stupid?

Most people lack of purpose. We can start with this.

How do you know somebody lacks purpose, for people only tell you what they want you to know. Just because someone doesn't speak about their purpose, doesn't mean it doesn't exist within them.

Then I'll give you an example from real life P-Angel.


There is this Aries dude. He's 22 years old. He has no job and lives with his mother. The only thing that he thinks every day are the motorcycles. You know I wouldn't have problem with such a person IF it wasn't for his mother buy him a motorcycle and pay bank credits for buying it. I do not respect such a person. Because instead of solving his own problem, he prefers to make his mother take all the shit, while he enjoys the motorcycle bought to him.

I will never call this person a smart person. I would call him a stupid.

Notso,

You seriously need to get laid.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You are mistaking me with someone who asks for permission.

I don't know if I would measure that as stupid .. people mature at different ages in life. Some people are way into their late twenties before they fully mature and then a lot of times it takes a jolt.

Parents enable this a lot of times. If a child is spoiled, this will carry into adulthood until they are pushed. That's not really being stupid in my perspective, more like they weren't taught values and responsibilities by the parent.

In that scenerio, I would put the mom more at inhibiting his maturity than him .. if that's what he is being encouraged to do .. that's what he will do. Tough love is extremely hard for some parents, so I'm not faulting in any way .. just saying that to still be acting like a kid at 22 is being permitted by the person supporting it.

Hell, sometimes I still act like a kid if I'm pissed and I'm 48 years old. That really has nothing to do with whether I'm stupid or not .. maybe childish for being a brat.

My measurement of stupid is when you have a dumb ass attack, know it and then stand by it, acting like nobody is smart enough, nor aware enough to notice. Everybody is a fool sometimes .. but, when you are one, you know you are one, and then proceed to be more of a fool because you can't accept that you screwed up in some way, constitutes stupid to me .. because people will forget and forgive if you screw up, but, if you won't hold yourself accountable and try to pretend like you didn't do it when everybody around you knows perfectly well who did it .. that's stupid in my book because that in itself makes you look "The Fool" .. not the mistake.

"So what do you think of the mother haffo? You think she is smart?"

Mothers are never smart in such situations. Mohers will always do whatever it takes to make her children happy. Therefore I do not blame his mother. She just does what she meant to do. The problem here is wether this guy has any internal understanding why things happen the way they should be. If this guy is abusing his mothers good intentions then this guy isn't smart for me.

Similar question; If you have 1000 bucks spare in your pocket, do you have to spend it just because it is there?

DC,

Yes if you look from this point of view (opportunistic parasite, abusive personality) this guy is smart. But as you also said, I see this guy as a stupid, because he lacks of wish of being independant. Having problems you have described above also doesnt stop striving for independance. And yes, if you also think that he's a smart guy, for me you are also stupid.

Cappy,

Yes mothers are stupid when it comes to their children. That is what "motherhood" is called. That is what unconditional love is it.

In short,

If a person cannot take care of himself/herself, they are stupid. They have no capacity to live.

The guy on the pic, I think he cannot walk. He may not able to walk, but he is able to hire people to do things for him. That why he's not a stupid anymore.

There are people who cannot walk and cannot hire people to watch over them, yes they are stupid too.

"So you equate independence and stupidity?"

Equate? No. But I do say they have a connection. A reverse connection.

"So a poor Stephen Hawking would be stupid?"

DC, which part of what I said is not clear?

DC,

You should stop invading my topics and trying to change it course elsewhere. If you cannot tolerate it, then don't bother answering them.