When Pisces actions don't match their words....

Hi guys...I have some questions for you guys about Mr. Pisces!

Friday night I was weak and he slipped right in on me. He had been calling/texting for over two weeks...then he left this message saying that he knew I was going to leave him, blah blah blah...So I called him back. He was like I just want to see you, I haven't seen you in over a month. So I was like okay...

Needless to say, I got some BOOTY! And it was good...So he left around 7 saying he was going to call me back, I really didn't expect him too and I fell asleep. Turns out he ACTUALLY called 7 times and wanted to come back over and I missed them all. I called him when I woke up at 1:30am (3 hours after he called to come back) and he sounded irritated but he said he was coming, which he didn't, but I didn't really expect him to.

Then he came over Saturday night at around 11:30pm. (He called exactly 3hrs from when he originally said he was going to come...which I DON'T think was a coincidence) Thing were different then...when I touched him...he moved away quickly. He put his arms around me and things like that, but it seemed forced. He kept saying he was on call for work & his people were going to call him, but they never called...At about 5am, I wanted to get some more booty because I didn't know when I would see him again, but he grumbled about being sleepy. Then he kept checking his phone and eventually got up and left about 20min later. I am confused...things were the same on Friday, but now they seem different. He said he was just worried about getting his $ $ $ and had alot on his mind but I don't know.

Then at one point in the night when I turned over...he said, there you go turning your back on me...WTF does that mean? He faintly smelled of vanilla both times he came over also am I paranoid or does he have another and if I ask him, is that just being jealous? I am wondering if I should confront him and just ask what the deal is...If maybe he really WAS worried about his job or if it was a cover-up? Why is he pulling away now? I mean his words are saying one thing, his actions another...Does this mean he has found another? Any advice or suggestions are welcome! THANKS

BTW, he did rub my belly this weekend...it was almost as if he was scared though...have I driven him away with my harsh words? Is the only way to have this man by being mean and not expressing my love for him? What is being aloof anyway and should I go against my nature playing these games of not calling him when I want to talk?

Cancerlady/CancerMamaDeuce

Cancerlady

You have no control over yourself. One day you want him out then on another day you accept him. Shessh.

Thanks Haffo for your words of encouragment...

It never ceases to amaze me that someone who has never experienced a real relationship can be so judgemental about something they know absolutely nothing about. Perhaps you can explain that to me one day...

Relationships don't have to be only love affairs. There are other forms of relationships. Business relationships, family relationships etc. Everything is same. The only special part in love relationship is that you get booty, kids, love(I also call this self deception), responsility more than needed etc.

I aint mad at yah CL. But however i will say this,when it comes to the point when he doesn't recieve the sex,and he calls and calls what will he do? It's jus being human babes, But be strong hun. He knows he has a good thing but he stayin playin mind games and U ARE DAMMN right to ask if he has someone outside. BUt knowin pisces so well they will say is "jus friends". ANd please be careful ,i wanna hear u have da kids and dey sayin "mama,mama deuccceee?"lol.

Like I said...talk to me after you have had a love (self-deception) relationship...K?

Oh...Thanks for the advice, I didn't see this earlier.

Daemon, thanks for not bashing me for being weak.

Oiprocs, your advice is invaluable...I have tried this whole aloof thing and it just doesn't work for me. Perhaps you are right, I have confused him even more. Hell I'm not sure what I want either. I guess I better strike a middle-ground but all these people say, be aloof and I try but I don't really know how! I guess I just better be myself from now on.

Love-self deception?explain haffo,cause u seem to know alot more about love than us humans,lol. Yeeeeeeesssh.

unless he's a sociopathic controlling bastard...

hmmm....maybe you know he HAS admitted to being a control freak

Yes Daemon.

I think I definetly know alot more about love than many others do. First of all, I do know that there is no proof of stability when in love. One day you're in it, other day you are not. Just like The Russian Roulette. You can't know when the gun is loaded. Therefore, basing your time, more than that basing your life on such affairs is kinda tactless for some extent. Second, this is just energy burst of our primal instincts. I do not allow such thoughts to occupy my psyche.

However, when kids come, things will change. Because now there are a reason. The kids.

CL, ignore Haffo...Haffo, sometimes harsh facts don't help a confused person. And before you can judge anybody, you have to be in their shoes, even if it's for a day.

The situation is messy, these things get messy all the time CL. I really couldn't be the one to give advice. Enjoy the booty for what it is, but he is not there fully. The emotions complicate everything I know.

You can e-mail me private if you want. I know it's bad.

haffo- first of all, Daemon was being sarcastic, I doubt he actually thinks you know more than the rest of us about love.

Secondly, I have not experienced your perception of love and/or relationships... so I cannot speak on your assumptions. On the other side of the coin- love has brought me enlightenment and personal growth. For me, love as always been an intellectual journey that goes beyond a primal instinct- and has also began before physical touch.

IMHO, If a person does not have a reason to "love" someone else until he/she does something for them(i.e. give them kids) then they are not looking for love. Love needs no reason- it happens for the sake of a couple to bond (before children)..it is self-LESS. It is a matter of growing into-- not falling in and out of.

Wait wait wait waaaaait, haffo so u would only love when u have the kids.BS tuh the fullest. Is unless u wanna impregnate urself and not love the lady first then i can see validility to ur point.BUt alas u in haffos world, continue,lol. Okay lemme put a spin on this then. SO why not adopt kids and love them.Instead of putting a woman who may love u and then u say" I would love u only when we have kids",lol. And if that part of u dat doesn't have dat psyche to occupy ,dat love den u definitely aint human.

Hey cancerlady,I think it could be what OTS posted too.Sounds kinda like he wants to be there,is curious about the babies and all the other good stuff but maybe afraid or confused of something.The vanillia thing could be from anything honestly and it really could be just work that is the whole three hour thing so stay a little optimistic yet but still be prepared for it maybe not in a we need to talk as in "your in trouble way" but talking about it may be one way to get something out of him.Ya know ask him what he's thinking about the babies,if it was pay back for you from him not showing up til the next day on the sleep/7/phone call thing because it irritated him,etc.-throw out random questions in a non confrontive way to see if being simi direct works.Maybe it will work to give you an idea of where you stand with him.21 questions type thing.

The "there you go turning your back on me again" could probably be used directly though say something along the lines of what you really mean with that one.Ask him if it indicated how he feels you do to him or something,you can probably be direct since he did say it.Maybe he has an insecurity about the relationship lasting or you won't be there for him or something.??dunno.

"affo, sometimes harsh facts don't help a confused person. And before you can judge anybody, you have to be in their shoes, even if it's for a day."

Why not? Wasn't she the one who bragged about being super control over herself? Whats wrong in pointing out that she was wrong? And why do people can't digest truth? I think haring that should not hurt them, instead it makes their attention to focus on certain things.

If you call this being judgemental, hell I buy it. Because that is how things work.

Cancerlady, normally I would agree with Haffo b.c I fail to understand y ppl stay in destructive yo-yo type relationships. But, in your case, I can understand y you would want to make the relationship work; simply b/c he is the father of your twins. If given the opportunity, you should always try to make the relationship work... For yourself and for the kids.

As for advice, I believe you should really decide for yourself what's the best course of action. All of us here are just basing our opinions on our own life, ppl we know and astrological information. But, real life is so much more complex than that. Astrology can never predict real life, and we can never full understand your situation b/c it is unique. Remember that you know this guy better than all of us here and I believe you what's best for you, the kids, and him. Just trust your instincts.

"But, in your case, I can understand y you would want to make the relationship work; simply b/c he is the father of your twins."

Exactly. I told her to not make such bold decitions about this in her bragging topic. But she decided to stay away from him. I expected her to stay on her decition as a sign of stability. Now I think she is not stable in her decitions which I pointed out.

Hey Cancerlady.....so glad your back.......mist you big time.

He comes, he goes, he rings, he doesn't ring, you get angry, he gets angry, he goes away, you get emotional, you get booty, he gets booty, he smells of scent, you have your suspicions...........and on and on it goes.......and I understand very well why....you just bloody love that man to pieces - don't you?

You being cancer and you being you!!........you've got to sit that man down and you've got to tell him exactly how you feel about him - it's got to be "if i was to die tomorrow" speech!!!, this is how I feel about you and this is what I want......even if he says absolutely nothing and goes away and never returns, make your speech so god dam from the heart - that it will stay with him and haunt him for the rest of his life!

That's all I can think of for the moment my friend.

You've got to do it for your own sanity and ours:-)!!!!

Kisses to those two bambinos..........


Alana x

Haffo...I have said several times that I was weak when it came to this man and the reason why I "bragged" on being able to stay away from him is because I WAS proud of myself and I thought I was over him, but much to my chagrin...it was not so.

I think most of all...I should probably do like Alana says and put all my cards on the table. I am a bit of a clam when it comes to asking questions, Tiamat...which is why when he pulled away from me and I wanted so bad to ask him if he still loved me and I just couldn't. Could it be I am afraid of the answer...yes it probably is.

I never knew how confusing I can be doing my Cancer stuff until I read all those things TaurusGoddess, Cafrella and others said about Cancers. So perhaps I have been giving him reasons to be insecure...Can Pisces read through you that well?

Oh yeah Tia...he has said to me "You are probably going to leave me before I leave you" Hmmmm...maybe I just stop playing these stupid who's calling who, who's ignoring who games and see what happens.

BTW

HEY THERE ALANA! Good to hear from you to! You know I missed your crazy ass!

How did you brake up with him? Didn't you tell him to get lost? If you did like that I don't think he would come back. If you not then you hell not brake up with him at all. All your bragging wasn't reflecting your true actions. Do you understand that?

And the beat goes on with Haf!................CL!!!:-)

What that supposed to mean now?

I told him that we wanted different things as far as a relationship...he has been in two long relationships with his other children's mothers since he was 20...he wants to be wild and free I guess. I want a man who is there for me and only me. I told him it wouldn't work out...

Yes I did want to be with him, but to chase after a man who doesn't want me or try to force him to be something he is not is NOT my style . Those are my true actions. I would rather get out now than wait 5 yrs and we resent each other for not being what the other person desired.

Those who know, don't need to say and those who say don't know - Haffo!!

Now, that's for you to ponder your brain on!!! - you bring out the philosophical side in me Haffo.....how do you do that—!!!

A x

Then you hell not broke up with him. I say you here, you will get hurt more with every passing day.

Alana I didn't understand what you wrote about me above.

Then you hell not broke up with him.

What are you trying to say? This is not grammatically correct so I don't know what you mean. And actually all wounds heal with time...if he would stop calling & texting me, it would be alot easier to move on.

Those who know, don't need to say and those who say don't know - Haffo!!
Good one...

Don't worry Haff .............................................................you just remind me of someone I used to know and the way they went about life and things in general...........................no worries - you are who you are and make no apologies about that.....................

A x

PS. Cancerlady....you get your dreadlock man in headlock!!!! Go lady go!

You are not broke up with him at all.

Alana

I'm sure you are enjoyin with the ride.

LMAO Alana... you are nuts!

Beat that rasta into some pasta!

who said ras,lol RASTAFARI JAAAAAHHH SALASIE I,lol. MOST HIGH, KING OF kings most devine. CL do what u must but be strong ,lay ALLLL your cards now cause u also are speaking about future mini U's too.

LOL

Daemon...you crack me up! I wish I could meet you in real life, I bet we would have fun together. I love those rastafarians...BOY!

I am trying to put my cards on the table, but he won't answer my phone calls or my text message. I guess he has slipped away into the sea...Well I wish he would stay gone and leave me alone!

Hey, you know Emperor Haile Selassie I was a Cancer, right?

yes i know CL ,so u see we cancers inspire trends and a huge following. Praise ye JAHHHHH,flings his soon to be ras,lol.

LOL...yeah Also Julius Ceasar and Henry VII...I wonder what Hitler was? Hmmm..

Hey Daemon BTW...me and Mr. Pisces are OFFICIALLY finished. I put my cards out there, he went into SUPER martyr mode, which I stopped immediately by cutting his BS OFF!

He is just going to pretend like we don't exist because it confused his little pisces mind and emotions. Screw mine and the babies...as long as HE's okay. Selfish prick...So stick a fork in me...I'm DONE!

CL/Cm2

Oh, Hitler was an Taurus! April 20th

He had Scorpio rising though, so no wonder he was a tyrant!

All I can say CL is well done to you..........well done indeed - it was very brave of you to do what you did - cards, heart on the table....and I bet you did it as only you can do.

Mr. Pisces is emotionally immature and unstable.....and that's being nice to him!!!
He's definitely not meant to be in your world at this moment in time anyhow. However, he won't forget you in a hurry or a lifetime!!! by my reckoning!!!! he's lost 3 beautiful treasures.

Sorry for your hurting........sorry for your pain.......wrap your arms around yourself and consider yourself hugged.

Your pal always.

A x

OH Alana...now you have me at work crying!

Damn emotional pregnant stuff...but thank you. It feels horrible but good at the same time. But I gotta do what I gotta do.

Awww CL, I feel for ya! Hugs hugs from me too.

PS: Your last pic is so cute! You'll be a great mommy.

Thanks Candlegirl the LEEEEEEBRA! My father would phrase it as S#it or get off the pot!

I am hoping upon all hope that it is a boy & a girl. I wouldn't mind two boys but I think two girls would be TOO much for me! I grew up with NOTHING but women...I am so tired of women, give me some testosterone please!

But my ideal would be b/g so I could have both worlds!

Hey Kafka! What's new with you?

Yaaaay congrats mamadeuceee,but can't say we can celebrate with a bottle of cristalllll,lol.yes u will have good fond memories of da good times u shared but das it,noooo morreee. But he will try again. Jus keep ur focus on ur babies and ur career which would bear fruit,then da one u long for will cum i mean come in ur life,lol.

Awww I always thought that made sense too--a boy and a girl. Did you know that Alanis Morisette has a twin brother?

Not much is new with me girl, thanks for asking. Same old BS regarding my Pisces. The Leo guy has a crush on me and we're all friends, so I think it's best I don't date at all, and just be friends with all them.

Can I admit that I still want the Pisces guy badly? That the chemistry still haunts me? And I do see he's just not ready--what can I do. It's ok, we're "friends" (f--ck friendship)

Oh by the way, my cancer ex wrote a nasty article about me on his e-zine. I hadn't read it since we broke up but had this intuition and was right. The article was bad!! How I was cold, didn't even notice he broke up with me, how he was too much to handle...Nasty stuff. He called me f-ed up too. Cancers can really hold on to a grudge and hurt you, if they believe they've been hurt. Giving me a taste of "my own medicine".

So all I've got now is 2 dysfunctional frienships and an angry cancer ex. Great😛

Kafka no offence, but I found your story funny.

LOL!

None taken...I personally think it's funny!

WOW Kafka...That's nuts! He didn't use your real name or anything did her? Yeah, Cancers can be QUITE vindictive when hurt. LOL Sorry but like you said...a taste!

Hey Candlegirl...Did I tell you happy birthday! Jewelry is the BEST especially for a glittery LEEEEBRA! Glad your Scorp is still treating you well. If I may ask, what type of writing do you do.

Daemon...I think it is pretty much over this time. No turning back! I am hooking up with one of my old standbys that I messed around with for the last couple of years. A Cappy that very freaky! He'll get me over my sexual dry hump! Glad I found his #...I called him last night and he said "Where have you been for six months, what are you pregnant?" I about died laughing, but I didn't confirm or deny LOL, but with his freaky ass, he probably won't care about the extra bump!

CL/Cm2

No he didn't use my name--forgot to include that. But a lot of the readers, who are his friends obviously know who he's talking about...How immature!

How was your weekend?