@haffo
21 Years5,000+ Posts
Gentle...means depression. Somewhat unhonest speech style . Very much looks like 1st type of speech.
When I see a person who is very quiet and does not rise their voice on certain level, I start to question their integrity. After all, a person who is self confident and sure about things, unintentionally rises their voice above normal. This is where it stops creating suspicions.
"It may be merely shyness Haffo. "
Or in other ways, lack of self confidence. High chance of being insecure about their knowledge and therefore irritating for a person who values their time, in which case they simply think that they waste time with you. (At least I think that way)
"Sometimes loudness comes also with arrogant, egotistical people."
Yes it can happen. But still, loudness is different thing, arrogance is different thing and being egoistical is also a different thing. None of them are mixed to each other and could be used seperately. In our case, loudness is a center of conversation.
You can be arrogant but not loud or egoistical.
You can be egoistical but not arrogant and loud.
You can be loud but not arrogant and egoistical.
I wasnt asking what kind of person are you Kris...shessh typical Leo.
I was asking "which kind of speech you would PREFER!".
Give me a beark of this attention seeking from time to time so we could regenerate.
"ANYWAY i prefer the smooth slick quick voice of gemini or a trickster whose voice is natrually pleasing . Its pretty calm and somewhat quiet but great communicator ."
You sound like a water sign. You like voice type that is calm and smoothing. Not kind of speech style that a leader mind would prefer.
If you disagree, then explain why.
"You can also be loud, arrogant and egotistical 'sometimes'."
Yes can be. But we are talking about propertries of being loud alone, not its combinations with others.
"But not always, of course."
I look at myself and I can see that in past I've been quiet and yet confident.
Do you belive it has more to do in which mood you are currenly in?
Or it's total opposite of what I think. Actually a person who is confident is the one who does not rise their voice? They have no rush to tell you what they think. Soon or later you will know anyway.
Seems to be the other way around, doesn't it?
The loud people are the ones lacking self-confidence?
The quiet ones having integrity?
Interesting question.
Do you belive it has more to do in which mood you are currenly in?
Yeah
"I like that style because it appeals to my super gigantic ego and its not intimidating to me and makes me feel like i am the leader and you are below not above . *shrugs* you didn,t really expect a better response from me surely ?"
Yes I did. I thought you are more coragous than that. You need outside source of confidence to constantly tell you who you are while you are obviously not that person. This is also lack of self confidence and definetly not a leader type personality.
Which is preference .. excitable, loud, expressive
"Do you belive it has more to do in which mood you are currenly in?"
This is possible another insecurity by itself. If our voice tone change according to our moods, then perhaps what we know isn't strong enough to prevent our vengeful voice tone?
Or perhaps our insecurities can influence our voice tone no matter what what we know, which tells us that we simply don't have strong beliefs? Beliefs affect us more than what we are?
"The most opinionated people I know, have a vast change in volume depending on what they are feeling at any given time."
So we have same conclusions here. We both think that if person is easily affected by outside forces and emotionally easily fluctuate this shows some insecurity. Okay, lets say it's true, but do you belive the opposite of this then? Do you belive a person who is internally "firm" has appropriate voice tone?
pp, I like loud people .. but, then, I'm half deaf, lol
"huh?", is the word most spoken from me.
I know that's not what everyone means by loud in this discussion, though.
"I think it's more 'honest' .. because then we are always consistent with our feelings. So out voice becomes 'the feeling in sound'."
What is this know? We have walked long and high just to return to our starting point?
Just seems to me that the people I know, their pitch, or volume changes with their mood. If their excited, their louder.
Now let's combine this all:
1) Calm speech is preferable, because it shows genuine confidence. But not every kind of calm speech is sign of confidence. It also might show shyness.
2) Litle loudness might show person current moods. It doesnt mean they try to force you to belive in one way. And litle loudness might tell you that person is "honest" with what they say.
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Conclusion; It doesn't matter which voice tone you prefer. The only thing that does matter is to tell what you know in shortest way.
"Just seems to me that the people I know, their pitch, or volume changes with their mood. If their excited, their louder."
Every speech style is indicative for something. All of them are useful. All of them carry different kind of signal. A calm person may also tell us that they lack interest and excitement while the opposite is gives opposite information. Therefore there is no preferable type of speech.
There is only preferable type of belief.
"I think the most intelligent person I know, speaks with a calm, low, monotone voice. He has nothing to prove and is sure of his words. He talks louder only when excited, like laughing or joke telling."
Words of wisdom, DC..
If you're going to make a passioned speech, for your country or nation, then yes, so too should the passion and octave of your voice rise, that's normal. i think Hilter was the most passioned, loud, arrogant, powerful speaker in history. The podium was his pulpit, the people his pawns. (unfortunately) At the other end of the spectrum, Martin Luther King, i believe was the most beloved speaker who could truly move a nation.
For me personally; i am more prone to believing in a person who communicates firstly with respect; and for me that does not include shouting, or being loud. (bossiness and arrogance are usually not far behind, btw) It's the impression they're giving, and not a very believable or attractive one..Imho..🙂 On the other hand, humor, laughter, gregariousness and a fun, light-hearted spirit of speech is totally different. Also, keeping in mind, that people do have their day to day moods, which could unintentionally effect their speech style , that's also expected and totally understandable, as this is more about ingrained personality types.
fast-past, excitable, bositerous .. passionately expressive
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1) Calm, monotone, somewhat secretive
Or
2) Vigorous, multitone, honest and probably a little bit irritating and intimidating
I would prefer the second one, because I feel more comfortable with such speech style . It gives me signals that person is speaking utterly from guts.