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u think were arogant, thats all ive seen from your posts. u are so sure your right and everyone else is wrong. are u sure u are not related to george bush? u look as close minded as the people u curse.

Go on and switch your TV/Radio on?.they say exactly what you want to believe and know..
Nothing shameful about it, those corporate media concerns been feeding you all these years and exactly know what you want to see and hear?go on man.. have fun?.!!

Just don?t ask me to watch and follow those.. I am allergic to bullsh.its

AAAAaaaaachooo?

See..??

Heh... same old same old...

The American Arrogance is nothing new.. everyone in this planet knows about it? hell even American knows it?. you sure you are an American..??

Doubt it

so go join up qbone, im sure theres room in the organization for u. thats all ive digested from all your rantings.

BTW.. I am not saying I am right?I know I am right because I see "proper documentations".

yes nobody is as self aware as u are. u are the all mighty person who sees and knows all. i dont watch the news jackoff, and i subscibe the the WORLD WIDE internet.

thats whats pissing me off, your attitude and arrogance not your views.

I don?t need someone's orders to do what I am suppose to do?(see? this is one of the lead key in American arrogances), unfortunately I hate wars and kills, there is no honour on this.
Is that what you think as an American..??...kill.. Or join the killer groups..??
Bah?
Welcome to yesterday?

I am not almighty yet (working on it)? but I happen to know what I need to know, to get more distance from the sick minds.

check this site... just for the fun of it...
http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/

u know nothing about how i think. and from the fact that i live here and know way more americans than u ever will, i think i am better qualified to judge the state of american thought. u sit in norway in judgement of something u know nothing about.

check out this site, blah,blah blah. what makes your news sites anymore credible than anyone elses? because it was on your computer? give me a break. if we are the monster of the world, u created us.

help us, please. we need food. we need troop support. weve had a natural disaster send money. our rebels are going to overthrow us. put your bases here, it will make us feel more secure. trade with us. your economy helps ours. the united states has affected the world in so many good ways. what about those? sorry but the world has asked time and time again for us the be there for them. u think we like paying taxes for other peoples butter? i dont.

you arent in iraq or the u.s. that makes u less informed than either side.

Well.. name only 1 instance that some country asked directly for your help.. and you did as none profit?? with proper documentation?. then I'll be shut up.

LOL? you name Iraq as instance..?? how about Kuwait..?? man?. You are something..!!

profit.....like the people in iraq did from the oil business. these people are dirt poor and thier leaders lived in palaces. u talk of american greed.

i never said we didnt benifit, but so did the countries we have helped. look up on your magic computer that gives u all the correct answers, just how much aid and money is sent around the world from the united states. its alot.

how many countries make money off us? we are the number one comsumers in the world. we buy things everyday that were made somewhere else. are those countries not benifiting from our business? its called a world market place.

Hm.

Cj7

I'll tell you something...you've called the Iraq as poor?? (define poor and richness)....Nr:2 oil exporter in the world with only 28 mill populations?.!!Give me a break..!!

Take a look at 13 years of TOTAL sanctions and illegal embargo forced by the America and the same allies you are so proud of.. now, a total destructions lead by the USA and her allies in an illegal war?!!

Now.. read the damn thing, before you say anything and make ass of yourself..!!

http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/Iraq/Sanctions.asp
Some of those people(if they are lucky enough to get over the borders ALIVE, will run , to seek refuge and asylum just to save their lives and their family, I know personally couple of those with very high level of scientific education like mathematicians and engineers, what they do for living you may ask..?? they washing floors and working as garbage collectors..). Can you imagine the impact of this humiliation..?? You really believe they are going to love you after you guys destroyed their home and belongings or the little they had and say THANK YOU ..?? Have you ever put your feet on a refugee shoes and walk a mile or two..?? ...naw.. I doubt it? you are to arrogant to feel this, you will probably chose to ignore it because you are use to lie to yourself..! (it is safer).


These are the one that you and the other rednecks like you naming as terrorist or network killers..!! Shame on you and your way of thinking, honestly?! You can not wash these scarlet marks from the face of Americans who think and act like you? not even with the holiest water in the entire universe?!!

Stop seeing people as animals?stop using provocative words like terrorists, there is no difference between you and peoples from the 3rd world your life worth no more than theirs, stop using ideological provocations, stop??ahh?. Never mind.

I know it is not going to be useful, but anyway?.Check this link and READ for what your country have done to this small nation?. Never mind the other nations..!!

http://www.iacenter.org/ then choose Iraq


Your murdering monkey boy doesn't like saddam..?? Great, tell him go and kill the bastard mano to mano? what those poor population have done to you and allies to deserve this kind of humiliations and manslaughter??..

And this American help you are talking about?.hehe?now you are really joking, you guys destroy everything then lend a money with high % of interest for build up (in your way) hehe?. Jesus?. This is mafia business?. You know nothing man.. I say no more.

Now, it is around Christmas and you hear the music in ever store and malls singing "I'll be home for Christmas", can those refugees say the same..?? The little they had was demolished by your troops long ago.. Who do you kidding..?? what home..??

The difference between you and me are, you don't know you don't care?.. I know, I care, but can't do anything about it except wasting my time to explaining to you or anyone else whom reading this.

Have a nice day

yes, u know it all. your right. its all my fault. im ignorant, i want everyone to die, iam a dumb redneck with no sense of worldly purpose. everything my government does is run by my desk and i approve of it all. they call me before taking any action on things. whatever. u have no idea.

please stop wasting your time.

I will name one country england, Churchill ask Rosavelt remember lend lease, wwII we were ask we went it took all three countrys to stop Germany, US ENGLANG FRANCE.

You know I am almost out of Ice I think I will invade Norway and me some let me pk some condoms to the women there are quite lovley

Oldjake
Its all yours...
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Cj7

You misunderstand it gain man...

I am not judging anyone, and it is not my intention to target someone and start a flame war?I say things mostly because of the facts that have been ignored? and when someone starts to saying things that are not correct... I'll try my best to correct the problem?but when someone pushing and starts to giving me bullshi.ts, I get mad?!!.

I apologize if my head hurting your feelings, honestly?.. I can't tolerate injustice, next time when you want to start debates please have all the facts you want to discuses then we start.
You see?. I love things that start with theory (as long as they remain as theory) but facts are different.

Have a nice day

During the early days of the cold war president Harry Truman said that what a nation must do begins with willingness and the ability of its people to shoulder the burden. this is true now Securing freedom and liberty in a region that has brought mass terrorism to its people must be stopped in order that they might have freedom. It is also vital to our national security and peaceful future as well. We can not prevail without a full commitment to meet the challenges ahead , united by clear honest recognition of the higher stakes both for the iraqis and ourselfs.

Jake..
What you say is true.. no doubt? but those are good old days? it was the time without these damn corporations and cartels?USA is not what it suppose to be anymore..
Look back at history and the American rules?compare it with today standards?!!
TOTAL MADNESS?
Hey man.. BTW? you should be here in (Norway) this is the time of the year we make an special food called Faarikaal..(don?t know how to type it)? comeon in.. you are welcome.. although I hate your killer instincts?
Hehe
I am a true Hunter ?. Not a Killer?!!!

Hey Everyone...

Lets take a step back...put everything we have all spoken about on the table infront of us...

What do we have...—

A pile of opinions...that are ultimatley shoved back and forward between ourselves.
Guys the ping pong "opinion" game is a frustrating one to play...and WILL make us go mad, as we brainwash ourselves through a reluctance to accept that we MAY always at any point in time of course be wrong. This is the core of our individuality we are expressing and when that is challenged it is HEALTHY to stand up for it...but it goes nowhere with opinions...!!!

Hey man...I love debate...it's pure evidence of healthy minds working things out for themselves...heck it shows...WE CARE!!!

Freebird...once again your light shines bright...!!!

Freebird hit the nail on the head in a couple of lines. Freebird asked...how does/can killing every justify anything...let alone another killing...—

You see...the answer IS that it CAN'T...and we all already know that...!!!

Don't you see...We are all argueing the same point in our own form of opinion and THAT right there is ALL that really matters.

You can't have a right without a wrong...

Lets face it...we are all argueing here with each other here about the our will for peace...and our outrage at life loss and killing...not so...!!!

So what is the only REAL choice we have...NO KILLING!!!

Now Cj7, Oldjake...now I hope you can see why myself and Qbone dispise G.W.B and anyone who elected him which is over 50% of your 300+Million people in America.

Dressing a man in a marine outfit giving him an M16 and a "law" of engagement that he himself ultimatley has TOTAL control over DOES NOT JUSTIFY MORE KILLING!!!

We have all just agreed that killing can never justify killing...nothing can...life is the most precious thing any of us have and the funy thing is we have to SHARE it...!

G.W.B seems to believe it is o.k that over 40 000 helpless and innocent civilians have died in his ordered blanket bombings and raids...and for what...—...so that he, his kids and his minnions can keep putting gas in their cars at a premium rate, and live in RELATIVE saftey...— Oh yes ahem...sorry also so that Iraq can be westernised just like us...maybe they don't bloody want to be...—

When...When..I ask you will this war be over...—

It can't be by the very nature of what it is...a reluctance of stubborn and scared individuals to basically just FUKN let go man!

Don't make a pr1ck out of yourselves by being scared and stuborn like G.W.B...

Haha...Qbone...you gonna love me for this one but do you know what I honestly still believe the only real choice to be...

Religion...

Yes yes yes...that's why and who the war is against...Muslims extreamists, religion, blah, blah but face it...as long as we are on earth there has and ALWAYS will be war and fighting that is a FACT of history and do you see it changing...— So what is your only option...to leave it behind you...TRANCEND it...!!!

LET GO PEOPLE...matterial posessions mean nothing! Free your true being from the self emposed entrapment of the physical realm and it's FALSE promise of eternity and relative comfort...

hah... I've aleardy love your view point man...nice post

i thought george bush was the anti-christ four years ago and i still do, my opinion hasnt changed. that doesnt matter to q-tip though.

i dont think we should be there either, if they want democracy i would love to see them overthrow thier own government themselves. my whole problem is q-tip making us all out to be like g.w. he is far from the truth. i dont like taking the blame for something i didnt do. q-tip fails to realize that aside from casting one vote against g.w. in two elections there is little that the average citizen can do. if i protested violently and went to jail, would that be enough for u q-tip?

i dont like killing either, be it a dog, cat, american, or iraqi.

and no q-bone, i didnt miss your point, just be careful who u point at.

Cj7

I don't know about the religion belief.. I have NO religion?. I don?t know any Christ..! let alone anti Christ.. !!
But what I know? this ruler of American empire is an STUPID ASS.. and he must be stopped at any cost.

Cj7

Perhaps I owe you an apology if you accept it..

I know there are good people in US suffering from this everyday bullsh.its, dictating by US government? I know how it feels.. But give me a chance to recognise the good people from the ass.ho les. It is not simple..

I am deeply regret and sorry if I hurt you, but believe me in war with the (mad mind) "evil for you" everyone are evil unless they prove otherwise..
Hope you see my point.

Another thing I want to say is:

Democrats, Republicans, left or right wings?they are performing shows?.!! To suppress and make sure that every intelligent life in this planet is remain as stupid as possible?!

Today, the US has the power... Tomorrow will be the Europe or whatever..!!

We, as a human being count as nothing but a tool?. Slave?.Robots?a manufacturing thing that give "those bastards" benefits?. as long as we are alive.
You can be the President or the garbage collector as long as "they" can push you in a way they wanted.

Who are they— Well? Pink Floyd and Roger waters have tried decades ago to tell us about those bastards, but we've thought?.. "It is cool to see as (paranoia) stuff", but it was real?those damn "corporate cartels" decide even what do you eat and where do you sleep?.even who do you have sex with..!! Do I need to say more..??
Go on and be slave... watch their TV and hear their Broadcast? you never know... you might get a degree on their slavery program.

I consider myself as a lamer if I get prised by para"sly" type of acknowledgements.. "he/it is not a human according to "its" statements", "it" is unfortunately however, is a talking "thing" with the body full of bible and smoking cracks.

Now? while there is nothing wrong with the Jesus (if "it" follow him correctly) or the cracks..!! however, combination of those with ever growing "para"lame" idiocy.. err? sorry ?.ideology, making "its" post actually a FUNNY thing to read.

First:

KEEP Sweet-P out of this business (she already told you that she doesn't like to be dragged in this kind of dispute)? you can at least respect her "command", "command is a word when Humans meet a THING like you", (for the humans is a "wish"). You don?t understand it anyway so, don bother.


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"1) The dissemination of negative propaganda against the leadership of Western Democracies."
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This should be read as "American idiot democracy" not a western, and hell? who picked that American "Bullshi.ts" up as a leading way of life...?? You've forced yourself in to the world?

Remember, you are outcome of criminals and running pirates from the European communities 500 years ago. (not including all Americans thou?just you and alike) that murdering, abnormal, idiot genes still running in your veins (you need at least 10,000 more years to develop and to be counted as an ape.. let alone human? (Wish ON? lamer?)? and keep wishing..!!

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2)The proliferation of conspiracy theories designed to get us to mistrust our governments and news organizations.
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Suck it?. see above..!!

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3) The obfuscation of terrorist activities at home and abroad. It's all being brought out into the light Q-Less. Where you gonna hide now!
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You know...para"sly"? you working as an "inspiration sometimes" it never hit me before? honestly?never before!!, I should thank you for this ?this title as a "terrorist" is an HONOUR? like a "purple heart" a medal of honour.. I am glad that you "at last" give me this title.. Honestly?!! Thank you?. But it is time to remove talking APES from this planet? I am not as fascist as you are thou, so your choice? pick it up?.." first?or last"??.

You don?t need explanation? you are looking for something that you've never understand..
Remember the colours and the blind story that I've told you earlie

Ireland is the best place to live in the world, according to a "quality of life" assessment by Economist magazine.
The country's combination of increasing wealth and traditional values gives it the conditions most likely to make its people happy, the survey found.

Ireland was followed by Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg. All but one of the top 10 were European countries.

The USA languished in 13th, while Britain was 29th - the lowest of the pre-expansion EU nations.

The survey was prepared for the Economist's "World in 2005" publication, with the remit: "Where will be the best place to live in 2005?"

Researchers took into account not just income, but other factors considered important to people's satisfaction and well-being.

They included health, freedom, unemployment, family life, climate, political stability and security, gender equality and family and community life.

The Economist said: "Ireland wins because it successfully combines the most desirable elements of the new, such as low unemployment and political liberties, with the preservation of certain cosy elements of the old, such as stable family and community life."

The magazine admits that measuring quality of life is not a straightforward thing to do, and that its findings will have their critics - "except, of course, in Ireland".

Breakdown in Britain

The Republic has made significant gains from its membership of the EU, earning the soubriquet Celtic Tiger for its economic progress.

Commentators say it is widely admired by the EU's newest members, and has become a model for what they hope to achieve.

Although European nations generally do well in the survey, the continent's major industrial powers of France, Germany and Britain finish 25th, 26th and 29th respectively.

The researchers said although the UK achieved high income per head, it had high levels of social and family breakdown.

The worst of the 111 countries to live in was considered to be Zimbabwe, "where things have gone from bad to worse under [President] Robert Mugabe".


Top ten countries:

1 Ireland
2 Switzerland
3 Norway
4 Luxembourg
5 Sweden
6 Australia
7 Iceland
8 Italy
9 Denmark
10 Spain
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and where is US..??
hehe
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ah...
forgot the source....

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4020523.stm

Now... move on para"sly" with your posts...I know of your jelousy..."it is Ameican famous" nothing is new about it..
But

BURN....hehe

Parallax good to have you back I am old I can not fight alone.
obone I spent a lot of time in Rhodesia long before it became Zimbabwe and after I had a friend who was ( you guessed it a white farmer there)
you have the same mentality there as you have in a lot of the world people who want to take over and when they do they have no idea what to do they do not make things better. Rhodesia has gangs of thugs roaming around killing people because they are to lazy and high to do anything else. They clam to be veterans of the war agianst white rule in the 70's 90% most are to young to remember the war.

As for Iraq we are there and we will stay this time until the job is done. Look south we have been in Germany for 60 years.

Yup... no wonder they hate enyone who speaks ENGLISH, professor..!!

About your Rhodesia...

That son of a bit.ch "Cecil Rhodes" a murderer and slaughter of millions of humans, a slave trader and son of religious (white ass.holes from the sect of crackpots), a founder of hell in sought Africa, a thief that hijacked a nation?!! A terrorist from the United Kingdom..!!

Yeah? unfortunetly I know the ass.hole? what about "it"??

Hey all...

OldJake...noway man...you spent loads of time in Rhodesia you say. I feel your pain there...I was born in the Lady Chancelor hospital in Salisbury/Harare. My dad fought in that war...I was still quite young when it ended and we immigrated to S.Africa not very long after but still worryingly I have family there who are holding on. They are braver than any terroist bomber can ever be...!

Anyways I digress...

Parallax...I was a little stunned by your last two posts and wonder if you even read my last...

You say you're worried about those of us that do not condem terror organisations and terror while sarcastically branding a few of us as "humanitarian" and wonder why we don't just join Al-Qaida etc...(firstly grow up)...then...

O.k so I can only speak for myself here but excuse me...I'm real sorry for not caring enough about these pests and parasites to even mention them.
Let me fix that up for you right now shall I. Al-Qaida and ALL terrorist individuals and organisation disgust me to the very pit of my stomache. Their mentality is morally reprehensible...a cancer that feeds on the mentally weak and scared...the stuff HATRED is made of...

Let me tell you this though Parallax. At least these mentally ill people do exactly as they say will and and are going to do...not smuggly hide their gluttony and self obsession behind a guise of social reform and then self proclaim to be rightcheous and the leaders of freedom.

These terrorists are that passionate about their agenda that they are willing to strap FUKN bombs to their boddies and die for their cause. They don't sit in their 3rd world country with all their home comforts and merely express outrage...they get their hands dirty...they get stuck right in...they don't just sit in their oval office sipping what ever they want off of a well stocked supermarket shelf and order other peoples children to go fight their wars.

Yeah sure it is a few mentally ill leaders who brainwash and convince them that they are right and on the path to salvation by doing so but why Parallax...Why...

WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SUCH A PUSH OVER FOR THE EXTREAMIST CLERIC'S WHO'S RANKS GROW WITH EACH DAY THE WAR CONTINUES...—

These are people who's jaws drop in utter disbelief when shown a digital camera picture of themselves taken seconds before and they run away scared. Now with that type of understanding what do you reckon you would believe your only real choices to be if I was dropping Bombs on yours, your neighbours and your friends houses almost daily...or if I sent patrols around to raid your house without even asking permission to enter the front door, without a warent or anything "WESTERNLY" acceptable...WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU DO...—

Well I already know your answer because it's not even happening to you and you already want to fight...but then that's just it Parallax...it doesn't matter where it is or who's doing it under what ever guise...in America, Iraq or Tim-buc-FUKN-2. What matters is that it is ACTUALLY HAPPENING...!!!

Don't you see...these people are all already Muslims and mostly good and true to their faith and to life itself but with their current outlook on life and it's quality is it any wonder why they become scared and annoyed until one day they walk past a cleric preaching his garbage and all of a sudden they think...well hang on...he's got a point there...and he can help me avenge my dead brother and neighbour...!!!

Now Parallax lets take a look at the "freedom" fighters lead by G.W.B.

When the go ahead was given to advance and over throw Falluja the other day I was so dumbfounded I actually wept Parallax...I wept in utter disbelief how the world or any individual can EVER take G.W.B seriously...

Does the fact that G.W.B asked the new "free" Iraqi president for the right to advance mean 1 FUKN thing Parallax.
NO...G.W.B put this

Durrie what happen to Mugambe, he had it all after the war he tried to bring the white and the black together as one country. He froze assets so little or no money got out of the country, you could not sell your farm. My friend Gray she hung on until three years ago it had been her faimley home for over 125 years. she now lives in England I have no Idea what will happen to the land her home was burnt to the ground we went there about 18 months ago there were people kind of living on the land they were living in old buildings or tents no farming going on. we did not stop were to many people who would do us harm. just drove the rover through. four years ago I was there for a month and it was fine we even took a copter ride up over victoria falls. Which side did your father fight for I take it was the Rhodesian Government. I have not been there seince the summer of 99.

sorry make that the summer of 03.

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country.

We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.


We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short,

We want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."






- Adolf Hitler, The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939


See any resemblance to speeches of that Monkey boy "the RULER of the America"..??

Nice post Durrie? its good to see for "once" someone has a same view as mine? Thanks man

Do you know I have never been back OldJake...even though I would love to life just always seems to be going on elsewhere for me right now.

You're right he did have it all after the war and the Matabele and the other tribes were never a violent race...I mean compare them to South Africa's Zulu warriors and the legacy of Chaka Zulu...but hey Bob lost his marbels ages ago man and also this is Africa we are talking about.

Afica's biggest problem is education...plain and simple. I dunno if this Live Aid charity christmas song malarky goes on in the states too but it's HUGE here in England...

Basically it's a bunch of westernised music artists led by the far too emotional for his own good Bono of U2. They ride their limmo's to the studio sip hot coffee and tea probably Champaign too...sing a song and go...awww...shame poor africa and all it's starving millions then donate all the proceeds to charities in Africa...pfff...fat load of good that will EVER do!

What a waste of bloody time...the only thing it actually does is bolster the street cred of these artists and push their cd sales through the roof.

Bono has but I doubt any of these other artists have been to Africa let alone lived there and seen it with their own eyes man. I was born and raised there man. The African thinks on such a basic level it is scary. He can be taught if you have the patience of a saint but look at the facts man...

The entire continent is 3rd world although some places I can't even begin to discribe...they are almost not in this world. Every African ruled state has unbelievable corrupt governments...exactly as I said they think very basically...those individuals think oh well...I'm o.k lifes great! Also take the aids epidemic. I mean it's not rocket science but they just keep shagging each other...— I suppose it's also a cultural thing. Their cultures are very very old and still very very strong.

South Africa is getting there. I can't wait to go home to my family in Dec. I go home every year for a month and with the time away I am in a very interesting position of seeing it from the 8'0clock news and also the stories of my flesh and blood...which is always negative but I see so much more than them because of my roots and now my removed life style which longs for the beautiful beaches and warm climate...I suppose it's easier for me to stay optimistic earning the pound.

Anyways...the reason I say they are differant and getting there is the two monumentous icons that are Pik Botha and Nelson Mandela.

How nicely this ties in with my previous posts too...These are two men that had it all...but what did they do?

THEY LET GO...

Nelson was a horrible man...possible worse than these muslims terrorists but at least their bombs are quick...OldJake you might but I doubt many people know what Necklaceing is...which is to...

Cuff and tie a person to a pole then to hang an old tyre full of petrol around a persons neck and ignite it.

Nelson has orderd these types of killings before and invented many other things not very humane however when you see this man now you can see he is genuinely reformed and is an ambassidor...his laugh is animate and expresses warmth...his pressence often makes people faint...his power of presence is unbelievable. He could have gone back to his way when he bacame president but no he let go...look how stupid people are that cannot let go...ever seen Slobadan Milosovich trying to argue his case in court...if he weren't such a disgusting man it would be so funny...

Anyways...Nelso and Pik shared the nobel peace prize with and these two men are now the legandary legacy of S.Africa. I see so much growth every year or so that I return and when the little ones now grow up and become the parents of the little ones of that S.Africa...you mark my words...she will be flying...

Just to add to that...

Sure...there will still be muders, rapes, corrupt cops and government...but then...

WELCOME TO THE WORLD...

ACCEPT THAT...LET IT GO...AND LIVE YOUR LIFE!

Interesting we do have some common ground. HIV is the plague of Africa now. I am told there are areas that will lose a whole generation of people. What amazes me is the insane idea that it all started when african's started having sex with monkeys. It started when the french Doc started exparmenting with monkey blood to make a serum for sickle cell anemia . Thats how it got into the human blood stream. It has moved all over the world in 40 years though. Africa is hit the hardest. I may go to England after the first of the year. I am stuck here for now business to take care of. My friend Gray faimly owns a home in the cayman Islands I was hoping to hook up with her there but doesn't look good right now. On your trip home have a good one hope to hear from you when you return up date me on how things are for real now. When you go and talk with the people who live in an area you get the real skinny on what is happening.

Cheers

P.S. Obone

Why Norways postial system has not been hit by terrist. Brita Loevaas told the Halden Arbeiderblad papper that she just recived a letter posted on sept 22 1950, it had a .25 kroner stamp on it. Even the terrist could not f--k it up worst.