So..hyperthecially....

Lets just say....Australia was at war with Indonesia, and America and Britain (who are our allies)came and helped out. The allies used their aircraft and naval vessels but used ammo and misiles made and owned by Australia. The war went well (no casualties)..and a few months down the track Australia sent America and Britain a bill for the ammo and misiles. Does THIS seem fair?

No the bill should go to the un

why of course the un.
no truly it does not.
we helped them, we used our machines and used their weopons. that they let us use.
their promblem.

Send the bill to Jesse Jackson, that will be his punishment for blackmailing companies into giving him money and not paying taxes.

What if the UN deemed the war illegal? Who foots the costs then?

then you are treetrunked you know thats why the americans cookiemonster about there taxes they get treetrunked everytime.

"What if" doesnt cut it!

UN has no real power.

I agree.

Pillaging is the destruction part.. and plundering is the taking away of booty part, right? (I'm almost serious..)

Booty meaning spoils.

What about rape and plunder. I thought that was were the booty came in?

(wince) You're a brave dude. < Hands over baton >

you *are* handing that baton to *me*, aren't you? 😛

Just kidding. I know you were...kidding...Mr. Tate.

Phoenix my love we have not spoke of late I miss your comments. We need someone of your high intellect. I could only decribe you as intelligentsia.

I too miss commenting with you (if that makes sense...) ~~ your intellect is much higher than mine, my dear. 🙂 Thank you a million times for the compliment. It's true, I've been rather absent from the boards lately. I must visit more often...I've plenty of things to say.

speak o goddes of wisdom.

rofl truley, but yes good point. the un has no power.

How do you figure the UN has no power? In what context are you referring? What about the Conventions? The CCPR for example, and the Geneva Convention?

The UN has no power at law per se, not until the covenants are legislated domestically. But saying they have no power, well what do you mean specifically?

i think they mean that the UN has no power, even though it has the authority. i don't think the question should does the UN have the power, but should it. i think it should and as long as we treat it as if it doesn't have the power, it never will. so to make a long story short, don't vote for Bush.

no, i have to say i mean if u notice how most of them moved us out of most of the rule there. why? becuase they can't stand us our power and our welath. what's worse is that if u don't agree we won't and we don't have to follow there rules if our legislters or supreme court or our president doesn't like that bill or whatere u call it. i dislike how much crouption they have. i say there are better ways to run the un with that war at greeland and fight and people who know how to run properly and actually help people of the world.

hmmm...curruption in the UN? pretty new concept for me, I just seem to think that people/ countries (such as the US) are undermining its power and possibilites for settling a peaceful future by not obeying the laws of the UN. And you can't say that its a foreign government body that has no power over us since the US VOLUNTARILY signed agreemetns to give it power over us, we just violated them (as many other countries do), destroying any credulity we give to ourselves and the UN.

well that could be true but it's also the people in that system that belives that they can propel some of there ideas on to us. which i don't like it's not any of there bussiness.