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charts of men who abuse,
and we all know Halle Berry grew up in an abusive household.
Halle Berry
The award winning actress, who grew up in an abusive household where her father physically abused her mother, revealed that an ex-boyfriend once beat her up so badly she lost the ability to hear in her right ear. Having witnessed domestic abuse as a child, Halle realised that she had to get out of the relationship before things got any worse.
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Martinez beat him up.
Halle Berry
The award winning actress, who grew up in an abusive household where her father physically abused her mother, revealed that an ex-boyfriend once beat her up so badly she lost the ability to hear in her right ear. Having witnessed domestic abuse as a child, Halle realised that she had to get out of the relationship before things got any worse.
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Martinez beat him up.
Posted by NepturanusThis. Also Nemesis and asteroid Child.
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
Posted by TaurusGirlRasomg
Taurus @ 25 degree or something there are a list of violent or avusive stars like Caput Algol etc
Here's one site but there are plenty of books on this astrological energy http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Degrees.html
I don't have the 25 degree Taurus thank god but I didn't get away from experiencing abuse, 15, 14, 18 degree.
thanks so much for the site. I just went to read and look up degrees. my god.
the worst degrees are Leo 15 degrees and 25 degrees Taurus.
but all the fixed signs have terrible fates,
the Sag/Gemini axis has some really bad ones.
"15 Degrees of Leo is one of the worst degrees in the zodiac, either natally or in prediction. Prominent in the charts of serial killers, felons serving life sentences, in the charts of those who have fated hard luck, etc. Helen Keller, both blind and deaf from a very early age had her chart co-ruler Mars at 15 degrees of Leo, along with no air signs. [Air signs are communication]. Stevie Wonder [blind] Pluto at 15 degrees of Leo, Ludwig van Beethoven, deaf, Saturn at 15 degrees of Leo.
25 degrees of Leo is violent, and some who have this are in prison for violent crimes, especially those with their chart rulers on this degree. In addition, this is not a good degree for a planet to be on in a predictive chart. Problems will result from this placement according to the affairs it rules and/or house it is in. This is a very strong degree of alcoholism. Many who are chronic alcoholics have prominent planets on the 25th degree of Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, or Aquarius. The influence is especially strong if Neptune is involved.
15 Degrees of Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius are also unfortunate, but not to the extent as 15 degrees of Leo, one of the worst degrees in the Zodiac.
16, 17, 18, 19, 22, and 25 Degrees of Taurus are all degrees of violence.
I don't have 15 degrees aquarius, since i'm near the cusp but my god... all the 15 degree FIXED signs??
this is really really awful. I even had to check my husband's and my sons, for any hard ship degrees, NONE that are bad degrees.
the 15 degree LEO if you're not the serial killer type,
you will still experience hard luck, and bad fates, ie, Stevie Wonder, blindness and Hellen Keller.
she lacked air, so she had a hard time communicating her words./thoughts into anything proper but she was a good writer.
Posted by yupvirgooaw i'm sorry to hear that.
I think Aries women tend to get into relationships with abusive men...
I know one who would be constantly beaten by her husband but she never leaves him. 😢
my aries sister has a very very kind husband who NEVER would touch her.
she left a guy who was ultimately trying to abuse her,
and my sister is lucky to have a good husband who nurtures and takes care of her.
Posted by Palerio??
@lisabethur8
You can seriously expect a guy to be with Nigella and not abuse her somehow...
I don't understand. 😕
Posted by NepturanusYou're welcome 🙂Posted by Paleriothank you Palerio i have to look it up again. 🙂Posted by NepturanusThis. Also Nemesis and asteroid Child.
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
but for now i only know Dejanira the victim with its pair Nessus the abuser.
btw this is for synastry chartclick to expand
I agree with you those asteroids are more indicative in synastry, but I believe there are a few patterns that can also be noticed in natal - if such asteroids conjunct sensitive parts of your chart like the moon.
Posted by NepturanusYou're not missing anything - damn 200 are a lot of asteroids aha.Posted by Paleriogreat advice 🙂Posted by NepturanusYou're welcome 🙂Posted by Paleriothank you Palerio i have to look it up again. 🙂Posted by NepturanusThis. Also Nemesis and asteroid Child.
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
but for now i only know Dejanira the victim with its pair Nessus the abuser.
btw this is for synastry chart
I agree with you those asteroids are more indicative in synastry, but I believe there are a few patterns that can also be noticed in natal - if such asteroids conjunct sensitive parts of your chart like the moon.
btw i have over 200 asteroids in my profile page.
would you look into it and tell me if there are missing important asteroids on my list.
you can PM me cheers.click to expand
My advice would be not to get lost looking into each one, just look at the ones that make tight aspects in your chart (preferably conjunctions). Pay attention to whether they manifest or not in your life, tangibly so, and discard them if they don't.
Sometimes their impact is so marginal that you may end up convincing yourself of something that it's not there.
Posted by lisabethur8Men don't understand what's happening either 😛Posted by Palerio??
@lisabethur8
You can seriously expect a guy to be with Nigella and not abuse her somehow...
I don't understand. 😕click to expand
We just know that it would be hard for us not to abuse her body if we were in her proximity. Ask @Hare what he would do to her.
from the site @taurusras provided.
VINDEMIATRIX - [9 degrees into Libra]
There can be a tendency to having spinal problems. The marriage can be unfortunate, and in some cases, the loss of the partner through death. There are often major problems and losses through women. [Bill Clinton is a perfect example here].
how awful!! he has a fate of a terrible marriage!! and losses through women, like all the women who destroyed his reputation. because he cant control himself.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Degrees.html
and 25 degree Taurus is a vicious cruel man who is abusive, or maybe also woman too, but so far it's in men that have shown publicly.
for example John Lennon has 25 degree Taurus O_O
and Chris Brown has 15 degrees TAURUS, and close to 25 degrees
those are abusive & cruel men.
15 Degrees of Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius are also unfortunate, but not to the extent as 15 degrees of Leo, one of the worst degrees in the Zodiac.
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Chris_Brown
Posted by Palerioohhh that's what you mean.Posted by lisabethur8Men don't understand what's happening either 😛Posted by Palerio??
@lisabethur8
You can seriously expect a guy to be with Nigella and not abuse her somehow...
I don't understand. 😕
We just know that it would be hard for us not to abuse her body if we were in her proximity. Ask @Hare what he would do to her.click to expand
-_-
Posted by TaurusGirlRasYes, that's true. I was in an abusive relationship. He didn't even want me to go to college because I could find other men. Standing up for myself created a bigger need to control me. Now, that I got myself out of that, I won't take shit.. and I can also see which guys have a controlling or manipulative characteristics.
It happens way more than we think. Ppl just keep their sxit private. It's sad what married women have to endure sometimes because men chose to see them as property rather than human
Posted by NepturanusNot sure about the answer to this one but I would guess most are generational, so it might be interesting to make a comparison and see how they manifest in your peer group's charts. You need to observe a lot of charts though to notice their impact, isolated it probably makes little sense.Posted by Paleriooh there is one interesting fact i found from these asteroids.Posted by NepturanusYou're not missing anything - damn 200 are a lot of asteroids aha.Posted by Paleriogreat advice 🙂Posted by NepturanusYou're welcome 🙂Posted by Paleriothank you Palerio i have to look it up again. 🙂Posted by NepturanusThis. Also Nemesis and asteroid Child.
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
but for now i only know Dejanira the victim with its pair Nessus the abuser.
btw this is for synastry chart
I agree with you those asteroids are more indicative in synastry, but I believe there are a few patterns that can also be noticed in natal - if such asteroids conjunct sensitive parts of your chart like the moon.
btw i have over 200 asteroids in my profile page.
would you look into it and tell me if there are missing important asteroids on my list.
you can PM me cheers.
My advice would be not to get lost looking into each one, just look at the ones that make tight aspects in your chart (preferably conjunctions). Pay attention to whether they manifest or not in your life, tangibly so, and discard them if they don't.
Sometimes their impact is so marginal that you may end up convincing yourself of something that it's not there.
in my chart
from Gemini to Libra the asteroids are mostly in retrograde mode (Cancer, Leo and Virgo all in Retrograde mode, dozens of them)
on the other side, from Scorpio to Taurus all in Direct mode (with exception one asteroid in Scorpio is Retrograde).
how come? 😕click to expand
By just looking at your chart, I think you can start with Chiron, Vesta, Juno, Pallas, Ceres. If one of them is in retrograde motion the internalisation of their themes is usually recognizable and tangible. Maybe observe if they square the NN, because it means they're going to be in square with SN as well. If so, those asteroids are likely to become prominent and manifest frequently during the course of your life.
Anyway I believe the more info you find about the asteroid itself, the easier it gets to interpret it (obviously) - if in retro - by just intuitively flipping the script. Since there's not much info about retro asteroids, basically I would advice you to look at the direct motion and then make your own interpretation of the retro.
Posted by PalerioWhy would you say that ?
@lisabethur8
You can seriously expect a guy to be with Nigella and not abuse her somehow...
Posted by yupvirgooI agree with that Aries women tolerate more and let them be treated wrong .
I think Aries women tend to get into relationships with abusive men...
I know one who would be constantly beaten by her husband but she never leaves him. 😢
Posted by NepturanusI don't think so.Posted by NotSoInstantwell Nessus is the abuser.Posted by NepturanusPosted by narayanaits for synastry. if your partner sun conjuct your dejanira, the theory is he will abuse you.Posted by NepturanusMine is in 7th. And I have Nessus in my 1st. So am I supposed to be an abusive abuser lol ?
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
i don't mean to scare you or anything, i read that on several sites.
i'm still learning on these two asteroids 🙂
It depends how the Sun is aspected....
Dejanira is combined with Nessus for abuse.
my Nessus is in safe place. i'm not an abusive person.
let say i'm in a relationship with someone with their sun conjunct my Nessus.
somehow i become an abuser towards her. kind of triggered itself.
with Dejanira is the other way around.click to expand
if you're not an abuser, you'll never be one. If a woman provokes you and provokes you and wants to be hit, those men usually stay away from those types of women, they seem to know the types early on to stay away from.
but some men (mostly the super passive and mousey type of men) seem to fall into the victims and hands of female abuse.
for example, when we were watching the neighbor lady who was abusing his passive mousey ex-husband (and we had seen it when they were married) and she was verbally abusing him in front of others, publicly, calling him stupid, and terrible father, and lazy ass dumb ass, no good for anything husband, you do nothing right!)
my husband and his guy friend had seen it and even said, some men choose those types of women, but they would never choose those types. and also his guy friends have sweet loving kind women who don't provoke or instigate.
my husband and his guy friend had seen it and even said, some men choose those types of women, but they would never choose those types. and also his guy friends have sweet loving kind women who don't provoke or instigate.
Posted by Nepturanusnooo never heard of it. if they are abusing, it's because of their childhood. something triggered.Posted by lisabethur8people change tho, for better or worse.Posted by NepturanusI don't think so.Posted by NotSoInstantwell Nessus is the abuser.Posted by NepturanusPosted by narayanaits for synastry. if your partner sun conjuct your dejanira, the theory is he will abuse you.Posted by NepturanusMine is in 7th. And I have Nessus in my 1st. So am I supposed to be an abusive abuser lol ?
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
i don't mean to scare you or anything, i read that on several sites.
i'm still learning on these two asteroids 🙂
It depends how the Sun is aspected....
Dejanira is combined with Nessus for abuse.
my Nessus is in safe place. i'm not an abusive person.
let say i'm in a relationship with someone with their sun conjunct my Nessus.
somehow i become an abuser towards her. kind of triggered itself.
with Dejanira is the other way around.
if you're not an abuser, you'll never be one. If a woman provokes you and provokes you and wants to be hit, those men usually stay away from those types of women, they seem to know the types early on to stay away from.
but some men (mostly the super passive and mousey type of men) seem to fall into the victims and hands of female abuse.
astrology speaking those mousey type of men might have their dejanira fall into their partner's sun.click to expand
but if it's AGAINST your nature, you will never want to hurt anyone. it will rip your soul apart.
but those who have no empathy or caring about hurting others, will keep doing it because this is what they've learned too,
just like the true story of Myra Hindley (this is an extreme case of course) but she was abused a lot and rewarded good behavior for hurting and putting others down, if she got praised for hurting and killing from her new boyfriend whom she looked upon like her father, to be rewarded with love and praise (when it's not love, you don't hurt others) then the cycle will continue. it's a curse that remains in the family line until you break it. 8th house matters I think. but if she is not able to be strong enough, and she remains in this cycle of abusing others for the reward of love.
Posted by NepturanusPosted by lisabethur8nothing to do with chart then.Posted by Nepturanusnooo never heard of it. if they are abusing, it's because of their childhood. something triggered.Posted by lisabethur8people change tho, for better or worse.Posted by NepturanusI don't think so.Posted by NotSoInstantwell Nessus is the abuser.Posted by NepturanusPosted by narayanaits for synastry. if your partner sun conjuct your dejanira, the theory is he will abuse you.Posted by NepturanusMine is in 7th. And I have Nessus in my 1st. So am I supposed to be an abusive abuser lol ?
you can also look where are their Dejanira placed.
i don't mean to scare you or anything, i read that on several sites.
i'm still learning on these two asteroids 🙂
It depends how the Sun is aspected....
Dejanira is combined with Nessus for abuse.
my Nessus is in safe place. i'm not an abusive person.
let say i'm in a relationship with someone with their sun conjunct my Nessus.
somehow i become an abuser towards her. kind of triggered itself.
with Dejanira is the other way around.
if you're not an abuser, you'll never be one. If a woman provokes you and provokes you and wants to be hit, those men usually stay away from those types of women, they seem to know the types early on to stay away from.
but some men (mostly the super passive and mousey type of men) seem to fall into the victims and hands of female abuse.
astrology speaking those mousey type of men might have their dejanira fall into their partner's sun.
but if it's AGAINST your nature, you will never want to hurt anyone. it will rip your soul apart.
but those who have no empathy or caring about hurting others, will keep doing it because this is what they've learned too,
just like the true story of Myra Hindley (this is an extreme case of course) but she was abused a lot and rewarded good behavior for hurting and putting others down, if she got praised for hurting and killing from her new boyfriend whom she looked upon like her father, to be rewarded with love and praise (when it's not love, you don't hurt others) then the cycle will continue. it's a curse that remains in the family line until you break it. 8th house matters I think. but if she is not able to be strong enough, and she remains in this cycle of abusing others for the reward of love.click to expand
8th house is the house of breaking curses...
it does and it doesn't.
free will and your soul.
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what ties in astrology to this? is it the male's upbringing to hate women that seems to be hugely the clue.
http://www.w24.co.za/Wellness/Mind/Famous-women-who-overcame-domestic-violence-20140120
Joyce Banda
Malawi’s first female president was married to an abusive man for 10 years. According to The Guardian, Banda was 22 years old when she wed her now ex husband. Coming from a patriarchal society, she did the unthinkable when she finally decided to walk out of her abusive marriage. One of her aims as a female president is to empower women who find themselves in similar situations."
she is an aries sun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Banda
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also I didn't know Nigella was abused O_O
nor I idid know that Mariah Carey was abused either.
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