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My thinking on this is no, they would not love the hardest. They may not be secure with their own feelings which can lead to hot and cold with showing interest...afraid to make the jump, but a part of them wants to. They may even have insecurities that prevent them from truly devoting themselves to someone. There are varying flaws I can see people having that can go along with not being good at showing emotion or being afraid to do so.

I don't have any scientific knowledge to back that up though, so I'll stick to saying that people on either side of the coin are about equally as likely to fall in love hard.
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It depends. You could think you're dealing with someone who makes it look like they're hiding their emotions...to you. When they really don't care and enjoy you thinking that way. They know it and sense it. They actually like fighting the fight with you to watch you be there and try to figure them out.

Then you have some people who want to let go but past situations have their heart guarded.

Your intuition along with their actions will be your best tool with this.
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid? What r ur thoughts? I think.its somewhat true. The pll in my life who were defensive mean cold loved the hardest. They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed to show their true nature and feelings. Are you afraid to show yours? How do you hide it?
damn right im afraid to show mines. i hide my emotions and feelings behind closed doors.

and what do you mean love the hardest. cuz if we're talking loving people in general, forget that.
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People I care about see the emtions. If I'm not close to you, you won't see them. It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with being comfortable with someone.
I am llike this. If i am comfortable with someone i can express my feelings, but that is a very small group of people. I don't trust easiily, so i am a guarded person. Yet i wear my heart on my sleeve.. it's crazy!

I do my best to keep in mind that everyone deals with shit, either from the past or the present and they too may be just as gaurded or afraid to show who they are. As i've gotten older it has not been as much of an issue but man my 20's/30's i was completely closed off from others. I missed out on so much because of this.

Today i am all about living life to the fullest, within reason 😆
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid? What r ur thoughts? I think.its somewhat true. The pll in my life who were defensive mean cold loved the hardest. They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed to show their true nature and feelings. Are you afraid to show yours? How do you hide it?
damn right im afraid to show mines. i hide my emotions and feelings behind closed doors.

and what do you mean love the hardest. cuz if we're talking loving people in general, forget that.
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My thinking on this is no, they would not love the hardest. They may not be secure with their own feelings which can lead to hot and cold with showing interest...afraid to make the jump, but a part of them wants to. They may even have insecurities that prevent them from truly devoting themselves to someone. There are varying flaws I can see people having that can go along with not being good at showing emotion or being afraid to do so.

I don't have any scientific knowledge to back that up though, so I'll stick to saying that people on either side of the coin are about equally as likely to fall in love hard.
I just know that when fear + emotional trauma from past events gone wrong is internalised, it affects 3 different levels of the nervous system and that Chinese matchmaking textbook that Ands used to post screenshots from is actually based on 1 level lol turns out it's not just some Far East superstition but a fair amount of science behind it .
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Interesting
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I dunno if Ands still has that book. It can't be found online, he just had it locally. But yeah personally I do find it interesting, it's entirely to do with the 2nd House.

We rely on our emotions and sensations for spacial awareness. If any part of that is repressed, you literally see a different world and different faces.

That's all I can say, I know people stopped reading a few sentences back, but it's a big subject all in the 2nd House.

People can go back to debate over who loves hardest.
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid?

They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed


no and no


I don't find people are afraid of showing feelings or being exposed .. that's something that insecure women say and believe.

And of course, you mean men ... because a woman simply cannot handle the fact that they aren't wanted.

when a man isn't expressing himself to her emotionally, it's because he's not interested in her. But, she cannot handle that, she will refuse to be rejected ... so, she labels it something else so that she can hide behind the truth.

she will say things like: he's a commitment phobic, or he's a afraid


and that's utter bullshit, he's usually neither afraid, nor has a phobia .. he just doesnt' want you, and you can't deal with the truth.
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid?

They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed


no and no


I don't find people are afraid of showing feelings or being exposed .. that's something that insecure women say and believe.

And of course, you mean men ... because a woman simply cannot handle the fact that they aren't wanted.

when a man isn't expressing himself to her emotionally, it's because he's not interested in her. But, she cannot handle that, she will refuse to be rejected ... so, she labels it something else so that she can hide behind the truth.

she will say things like: he's a commitment phobic, or he's a afraid


and that's utter bullshit, he's usually neither afraid, nor has a phobia .. he just doesnt' want you, and you can't deal with the truth.
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Well this can be some truth but im more so saying in general with ppl who.r guarded. Women do it to. Im a lesbian and ive seen this in women. Ive seen this in ppl i was in a rel with also in which they did commit to me but they expressed tbeir emotions very different. They were very hard on the outside yet fragile on the inside. Some spoke out about their past pain which led to them being guarded. Ive found them to be the most fragile. Yea they were insecure and afraid of being hurt. They used their negativity to hide behind how they really felt out of fear of not being loved properly.
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Then in dating i see ppl r afraid to open up. As others have mentioned they need to get to know u before they expose that side. For me im open i wear my heart on my sleeve im not afraid but for others they prefer not to even go there to be vulnerable. Take beauty and the beast for example he was once a handsome prince turned into a mean beast but bell later helped him love again. There was a good person deep down inside of there. It just took the right oerson to bring it out. Or even scrooge too. Pll put up this false image to protect whats on the inside. Why not just love freely?
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Posted by lovely77

Then in dating i see ppl r afraid to open up.

Why not just love freely?



It's not fear.

... because women are too smothering and demanding. There is no loving freely when you are dating a female .. she will make sure to pound and beat onto any/all expression you might have. She will drag every little word or flinch of an eyebrow into the fucking ground.


Women make it impossible to love freely .... she waits with baited breath with chains in hand to bind every expression of love, or any kind of positive regard.


You're a female, you should be able to recognize this.
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I'm talking about men, so you have no life experience ..... women say these things about men all the time, when in reality, men aren't afraid at all



women are very smothering, and hold guys hard to everything ...... this causes men to clam up, to decide she isn't worth all the hassle.


I hear u. I think all ppl do this but i was more so refering to just in general not someone who is being pressuring to someone. Ive even seen this behavior in ppl after years too. You would think that wall would come down. And i do have life experience what kind of statement is that? I feel women can also be more difficult and complex than men. They the main ones with walls. I do have guy friends to know this.
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Then in dating i see ppl r afraid to open up. As others have mentioned they need to get to know u before they expose that side. For me im open i wear my heart on my sleeve im not afraid but for others they prefer not to even go there to be vulnerable. Take beauty and the beast for example he was once a handsome prince turned into a mean beast but bell later helped him love again. There was a good person deep down inside of there. It just took the right oerson to bring it out. Or even scrooge too. Pll put up this false image to protect whats on the inside. Why not just love freely?
IMO its trauma.. family/raised or bad dating experience.
To me, the strongest people love freely, they have that capacity to be open & take chances.
I admire that.
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I agree exactly
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Then in dating i see ppl r afraid to open up.

Why not just love freely?



It's not fear.

... because women are too smothering and demanding. There is no loving freely when you are dating a female .. she will make sure to pound and beat onto any/all expression you might have. She will drag every little word or flinch of an eyebrow into the fucking ground.


Women make it impossible to love freely .... she waits with baited breath with chains in hand to bind every expression of love, or any kind of positive regard.


You're a female, you should be able to recognize this.
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Yes exactly i agree. Women r complex.
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid?

They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed


no and no


I don't find people are afraid of showing feelings or being exposed .. that's something that insecure women say and believe.

And of course, you mean men ... because a woman simply cannot handle the fact that they aren't wanted.

when a man isn't expressing himself to her emotionally, it's because he's not interested in her. But, she cannot handle that, she will refuse to be rejected ... so, she labels it something else so that she can hide behind the truth.

she will say things like: he's a commitment phobic, or he's a afraid


and that's utter bullshit, he's usually neither afraid, nor has a phobia .. he just doesnt' want you, and you can't deal with the truth.
That is not necessarily the case.. I can see that if they are among the beginning stages of a relationship or getting to know one another. But there are plenty of men and women in long term relationships that are unable to share their emotions freely.. so what does that say about your logic.. these men also don't want their women? There is no rejection to fear in theses cases.. they are already together and some have been for years..
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Exactlyyyyyyy hell this one couple just broke up after 12 years...i said wat happened they said communication and the partner never expressed their emotions......like after 12 yrsm.m jesus....im not even talking short term or ppl who cant commit even after commitment their loce language is still complex and guarded.
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid?

They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed


no and no


I don't find people are afraid of showing feelings or being exposed .. that's something that insecure women say and believe.

And of course, you mean men ... because a woman simply cannot handle the fact that they aren't wanted.

when a man isn't expressing himself to her emotionally, it's because he's not interested in her. But, she cannot handle that, she will refuse to be rejected ... so, she labels it something else so that she can hide behind the truth.

she will say things like: he's a commitment phobic, or he's a afraid


and that's utter bullshit, he's usually neither afraid, nor has a phobia .. he just doesnt' want you, and you can't deal with the truth.
That is not necessarily the case.. I can see that if they are among the beginning stages of a relationship or getting to know one another. But there are plenty of men and women in long term relationships that are unable to share their emotions freely.. so what does that say about your logic.. these men also don't want their women? There is no rejection to fear in theses cases.. they are already together and some have been for years..
Exactlyyyyyyy hell this one couple just broke up after 12 years...i said wat happened they said communication and the partner never expressed their emotions......like after 12 yrsm.m jesus....im not even talking short term or ppl who cant commit even after commitment their loce language is still complex and guarded.
Yes, I see this in plenty of long term relationships as well.. Once again she's just talking out of her ass. Lots of people have difficultly expressing themselves emotionally, and all can be due to various reasons.. Not only men do this, women as well.
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Yes exactly and they can very much so be into u. Just scared etc
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You are just going to insist that it's a fear .. which pretty much proves my point.


Instead of using critical thought .. you are adamant in that a person is scared ... because that suits your agenda, I suppose.
Men are not scared of talking about thier feeling

They stop talk about thier feeling when they got what they want .. or when they get bored ..

Any way .. they use the same words with every woman .. they have feeling for.
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Of course, they aren't afraid.

It's ludicrous and projecting when women cry and moan about it, due to their own insecurities and in having to have their emotions carried around for them like baggage, because they cannot carry them for themselves ...... they then make irrational statements like we see here.
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level of stupidity is beyond my ability to cope with you .....

You stated that the reason why people won't express their emotions is because they are afraid to and/or of being exposed.

When I said that's bullshit ... if a person isn't sharing their feelings with you, then it's because they don't want to be with you .....


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when a man isn't expressing himself to her emotionally, it's because he's not interested in her.

he's usually neither afraid, nor has a phobia .. he just doesnt' want you



.... you answer back with the below in disagreement with me .. yet, you fucking describe what I said was the reason, and you have no fucking clue that you agreed with me. You thought you were saying the opposite of me.

That's how dumb you are.


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this one couple just broke up after 12 years...i said wat happened they said communication and the partner never expressed their emotions....

their loce language is still complex and guarded.

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THAT is saying that these don't want each other, so they aren't sharing. You didn't describe fear or exposure.

they aren't interested in each other, and are divorcing .... and a consequence of these two not wanting each other is a lack of emotional connection.



It's like ..... how in the hell can a person be this stupid? You have no clue that what you described is exactly what I stated, do you?
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ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest

The pll in my life who were ...... loved the hardest.



I'm not even sure I'm able to comprehend this. By (loving the hardest), usually means ... loving the deepest, most intense, bipolar on just a passionate/jealousy level

So, if this person loving you the hardest isn't emotionally connected ... then it's fake, and not even love.

So, how can they be the hardest? .. if you meant it by definition above. If by "hardest" you meant really difficult to love because they didn't feel emotionally connected enough to share, and so trying to love that person was hard .. .then I get your point.

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ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest

The pll in my life who were ...... loved the hardest.



I'm not even sure I'm able to comprehend this. By (loving the hardest), usually means ... loving the deepest, most intense, bipolar on just a passionate/jealousy level

So, if this person loving you the hardest isn't emotionally connected ... then it's fake, and not even love.

So, how can they be the hardest? .. if you meant it by definition above. If by "hardest" you meant really difficult to love because they didn't feel emotionally connected enough to share, and so trying to love that person was hard .. .then I get your point.

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I posted this to get everyone thoughts and opinions. I never said it was true or false. Lastly ppl can be into someone alot but maybe they dont want to express or talk about emotions etc. My grandmother and aunt doesn't show emotions or love does that mean they dont care or love me. I was just asking wat ppl views were and if they feel it means they love the hardest. Ppl have given their response on this. All the back and forth is not necessary its just a conversation topic for all views and opinions. No one is right or wrong.
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little game .. it's called:

Let's see if Lovely77 can distinguish between two statements she said.

ready .... go ......

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They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed to show their true nature and feelings.


Posted by lovely77

Lastly ppl can be into someone alot but maybe they dont want to express or talk about emotions


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All the back and forth is not necessary its just a conversation topic for all views and opinions.


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What r ur thoughts?

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I underlined for you, to give you a head start.


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Well everyone love language is different



I agree 100% ... but, that 's not what you said.

I'm disagreeing with the OP .. and you dance all around it trying to pretend you didn't say it.

I didn't go left ... I'm exactly on point of the topic ... but, you can't see that because you disagree.

No and No .... people who aren't sharing their feelings with you it isn't because they are afraid, and it doesn't mean they love the hardest, unless by hardest, you mean the most difficult due to them not being emotionally connected to you.
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I believe so, yes. They keep their emotions to themselves because they are afraid to trust them in the hands of the wrong person.
This is EXTREMELY true of myself which is why I rarely form relationships... I have a twelfth house moon.
Understanding so do u do this even to ppl your interested in.
Unfortunately the relationship will stay at "surface level" if they don't dig deep enough to find out... And eventually the relationship will end....

The only person whom I can say has managed to get to the bottom of it is my taurus crush.... He was able to see "my layers"... He referred to them as an "onion"..

A person with a twelfth house moons find expression of feelings verbally very hard... It's in the head but the mouth won't open....

My mother describes me as a "tough nut to crack".. If you don't ask, then you will never know who I am.. A twelfth house moon is a like a mute when it comes to expression of feelings. Written wording.. Yes... Verbally... No..

It takes a person who has shown enough care and trust that I feel "safe" will slowly be able to get me to reveal who I am and what my vulnerabilities are..

I'm slowly working on it.. Reading up alot on twelfth house moon. I make no excuses... But not everyone is the same... I never ever pressurise someone to reveal feeling or talk about things if they don't want to... Time will tell..
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True as u said someome who cares will be patient enough to peel them layers etc...my only thing is for those peeling layers how do they know to keep fighting 4 u etc. As p angel said maybe they arent interested but maybe the other person should just be patient and peel some layers idk
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I believe so, yes. They keep their emotions to themselves because they are afraid to trust them in the hands of the wrong person.
This is EXTREMELY true of myself which is why I rarely form relationships... I have a twelfth house moon.
Understanding so do u do this even to ppl your interested in.
Unfortunately the relationship will stay at "surface level" if they don't dig deep enough to find out... And eventually the relationship will end....

The only person whom I can say has managed to get to the bottom of it is my taurus crush.... He was able to see "my layers"... He referred to them as an "onion"..

A person with a twelfth house moons find expression of feelings verbally very hard... It's in the head but the mouth won't open....

My mother describes me as a "tough nut to crack".. If you don't ask, then you will never know who I am.. A twelfth house moon is a like a mute when it comes to expression of feelings. Written wording.. Yes... Verbally... No..

It takes a person who has shown enough care and trust that I feel "safe" will slowly be able to get me to reveal who I am and what my vulnerabilities are..

I'm slowly working on it.. Reading up alot on twelfth house moon. I make no excuses... But not everyone is the same... I never ever pressurise someone to reveal feeling or talk about things if they don't want to... Time will tell..
True as u said someome who cares will be patient enough to peel them layers etc...my only thing is for those peeling layers how do they know to keep fighting 4 u etc. As p angel said maybe they arent interested but maybe the other person should just be patient and peel some layers idk
These people I refer to are my exes.. I broke off my "superficial relationships".. If a person is truly invested .. Time does not have any limits and the person will continue to stand by you and "Fight for you"..
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I understand so i guess what i need to say next is. R u atleast easy to love and be around? Its ok ti guard ur feelings and emotions but reassures them that should keep fighting 4 u?
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid? What r ur thoughts? I think.its somewhat true. The pll in my life who were defensive mean cold loved the hardest. They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed to show their true nature and feelings. Are you afraid to show yours? How do you hide it?
Lovely You're WroNg ! 🙂

Only cowards hide their true feelings, Once you fall in love you have to express it ! 😏

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Ok. I express myself often. I try. Its not easy being vulnerable while others hide theirs
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Do you believe ppl who have a hard time with showing feelings and emotions love the hardest and are afraid? What r ur thoughts? I think.its somewhat true. The pll in my life who were defensive mean cold loved the hardest. They had a wall up out of fear of being exposed to show their true nature and feelings. Are you afraid to show yours? How do you hide it?
Lovely You're WroNg ! 🙂

Only cowards hide their true feelings, Once you fall in love you have to express it ! 😏

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Ok. I express myself often. I try. Its not easy being vulnerable while others hide theirs
Ok ! 🙂

For me both must do the equal effort or at least try, appreciate and understand ! 😉

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Your right angel this is true 🙂
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