If a player tells u they have changed, wud u believe them?

So after numerous fights of me saying to him I don't trust him as he doesn't respect woman n sleep around, lie n manipulative etc.. Later tell me that he has changed n acting different. We r just friends now but this is what he's saying.. Cud this really be a real thing lol? It's only a month ago .. I don't know if it's a game show or what.. Or he's trying to show me he can do it and stop being a player. I don't know though.. Maybe he's really trying .. hahaha .. I guess only actions will prove itself.. if any of the player here has changed, what would be the reason.. That they meet the real deal— The one ?? or is this like a characteristics for life.. lol .. My dad is a player and he says once u r a player u r a player for life pretty much. I don't know it just sounds too fishy that it happens so quickly and just after the big fight with me about it.

hell yea

That Cappy Moon Sag is still stringing you along.

Try to move on

Tim Tebow went from playing in the NFL to baseball. I think any player can be in different sports if they try hard enough and have the skills.

Well good for Tim Tebow changing his game, he gets bonus points for not impregnating the wide receiver then ditching him to knock up the shortstop 6 months later.

Why is your writing so retarded?

Also, no, I wouldn't. That asshole would have to do to a loooot of proving of his "new" self.

"I'VE CHANGED!"

That's nice. Prove it. Kthx.

Thanks for the responses! . Yeb, i strongly believe old habits die hard ..how the conversation started was that i was teasing him about something sexual ..as normally he would be interested.. ..no not about having sex with me..some kinky stuff we sometimes talk about.. and he no longer showed much interest and so i said..umm seems iike u have changed ? ..lol and he's like..yeahhhh i think i have changed hey.. and then he says..

** my players day are not over my dear **...

now.. maybe he has truly learn something.. having two kids with two different woman who's due this month.. i see hope you know and if he truly has finally saw some light.. but, i'm still doubting if its what sag sag sag says..

He's only saying those things coz he knows its what i wanna hear.. and stringing me along like what Wynter has said..

or maybe he has truly changed.. lol... just sad really.. he said he wanna respect himself and stop playing around and sleeping around.. i told him i don't trust him and maybe he's trying to get me to trust him again..even as friends.. its pretty important.. coz i need to trust him for me to ever one day have him caring for my son. i know its a totally different topic here but it is still important.. but liars and players and cheaters...are habits that hard to change...i have hope but its very slim..

so, what ya say... don't believe him? lol

my players day are now over my dear. ( first time he calls me my dear ).. lol.. another stringing along tactic..

Posted by starwars
is that the same vis guy?

you both like drama smh

starwars.. u noe.. i think subconsciously i'm attracted to him because of the drama bull crap..i'm trying not to react to it though..I have stopped playing the game though..

. we r no longer sleeping together and just friends. i still wanna build the friendship and trust for the sake of our son lol... but its hard to believe someone who has lied to you....i keep telling him to be honest and open with me and i honestly wouldn't care he insists its nothing to tell me about as he calm down and stopped being a player now ..

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Also, no, I wouldn't. That asshole would have to do to a loooot of proving of his "new" self.

"I'VE CHANGED!"

That's nice. Prove it. Kthx.

i know ! even if he goes head and beyond with the proving.. once u brake a taurus trust its so hard to ever believe ur words again.. i don't know ..maybe when he's 70 and no longer able to have sex anymore..thats when i will finally believe him.

HAHAHA

my aries friend is also a player.. head over heal in love with this woman and cheated on her.. she was going to move country for him... shame she's a taurus and someone told her he cheated on her.. and now he's lost her for good..

heart broken now the poor man.. but why why why why why .. the question is beyond me.. just like my father... 7 kids from 2 different woman... i guess thats why i'm so attracted to this person. he's exactly like my father.. its funny how this stuff shows up in life.. so i'm on my healing journey.. ><

Posted by stopbeingdelusional
I have only seen good boys turning into players. Haven't seen a player converting back to a good boy, yet. (A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

omg THIS !! '' --> A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

I told him exactly that !! LOL.. i'm extremely blunt and honest with his bullcrap.. don't know how we still come back and remain friends after all lol.. sadly, i love him for what he is... but i can't ever be with him.. i told him he can go ahead and manipulate and lie to other girls but it won't be me anymore.. obviously it still is a little.. i still believed him slightly 1 percent when he said he's no longer a player.. HAHAHA..

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Posted by saweetz1988

Posted by starwars
is that the same vis guy?

you both like drama smh

starwars.. u noe.. i think subconsciously i'm attracted to him because of the drama bull crap..i'm trying not to react to it though..I have stopped playing the game though..

. we r no longer sleeping together and just friends. i still wanna build the friendship and trust for the sake of our son lol... but its hard to believe someone who has lied to you....i keep telling him to be honest and open with me and i honestly wouldn't care he insists its nothing to tell me about as he calm down and stopped being a player now ..

keep building the friendship then, you cant trust his words if all he ever did was telling you what you want to hear. you also dont insist and push a vis to open up bc they'll do the opposite.

he probably enjoy playing the manipulative charm games to see where itd take him and how strong his effect on you.

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wise words. i agree.. thank u ! i learnt that now i don't really push for information.. when i just listen he volunteers his information... some deep stuff which i still don't trust him.. its so difficult u noe.. we known each other for years and now i'm at that point where i'm trying hard to trust him again but its so difficult.. and he hates it that i don't trust him anymore;..lol.. whose fault is that though right.. and yes tell me things what i wanna hear isn't going to lead us anywhere good.. it only cause more doubts in me.. i'm praying i will trust him again one day with action... if my son is ever in his care i need to be able to trust his words.. but yes, without action... i just let him think that i believe him lol.. its just easier that way sometimes.

Posted by Sagsagsags
Love, don't take his "my dear" seriously ? What's his sun sign btw?

I do this all the time too, calling people: my dear, love, sweetheart, sunshine,babe, baby whenever I feel like it.

I dont use them as my stringing along tactic, I just love doing that, it comes out naturally ??

the thing is he never ever ever ever ever use those words on me after years of knowing me..

only i called him babe ONCE... and this ..my dear thing came out of no where when he told me he's no longer a player...

i don't know its def one of his stringing along tac tic.. lol

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Posted by stopbeingdelusional
I have only seen good boys turning into players. Haven't seen a player converting back to a good boy, yet. (A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

Your friend deserves a shot in the head ?

Do men never think of karma? When they have a daughter?

All players I know from my not-so-saint days usually have a baby girl as their first child.. scaryyy —

He did tell me it can get stressful from time to time when he lies so much that he loses track of his lies himself.

Maybe one day, if he messed with the *wrong type of women*, he'd wake up without his manhood?? God knows.

Even though we are friends, I always wonder why no one has ever done something like that to him yet :p

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i wonder if ur friend and this guy i'm involved with is the same man —? sounds so alike my god.. and yes i know he lies a lot.. one day i'm going to face him and says straight to his face why is it that he lies so much, i think its because he can't be honest with his true self.. himself.. thats why he lies.. and yes his balls need to be chopped off .. hahahaha

FUNNY ENOUGH MY FATHER HAS 8 GIRLS>.and the last one is a boy who i found out 20 years later.. HAHAHAHA

i'm also amazed i have a son.. ppl say players always end up with a daughter first.. ..

his second is due this month and its a girl ..

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@stopbeingdelusional tell him to never date a chef. She might use a banana slicer on him ?

IMAO

Posted by saweetz1988
Thanks for the responses! . Yeb, i strongly believe old habits die hard ..how the conversation started was that i was teasing him about something sexual ..as normally he would be interested.. ..no not about having sex with me..some kinky stuff we sometimes talk about.. and he no longer showed much interest and so i said..umm seems iike u have changed ? ..lol and he's like..yeahhhh i think i have changed hey.. and then he says..

** my players day are not over my dear **...

now.. maybe he has truly learn something.. having two kids with two different woman who's due this month.. i see hope you know and if he truly has finally saw some light.. but, i'm still doubting if its what sag sag sag says..

He's only saying those things coz he knows its what i wanna hear.. and stringing me along like what Wynter has said..

or maybe he has truly changed.. lol... just sad really.. he said he wanna respect himself and stop playing around and sleeping around.. i told him i don't trust him and maybe he's trying to get me to trust him again..even as friends.. its pretty important.. coz i need to trust him for me to ever one day have him caring for my son. i know its a totally different topic here but it is still important.. but liars and players and cheaters...are habits that hard to change...i have hope but its very slim..

so, what ya say... don't believe him? lol

And why the fckk would you be interesting in a guy who has 2 different women up the duff AT THE SAME TIME. Sheesh! Can it get any worse.

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Posted by saweetz1988

Posted by stopbeingdelusional
I have only seen good boys turning into players. Haven't seen a player converting back to a good boy, yet. (A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

omg THIS !! '' --> A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

I told him exactly that !! LOL.. i'm extremely blunt and honest with his bullcrap.. don't know how we still come back and remain friends after all lol.. sadly, i love him for what he is... but i can't ever be with him.. i told him he can go ahead and manipulate and lie to other girls but it won't be me anymore.. obviously it still is a little.. i still believed him slightly 1 percent when he said he's no longer a player.. HAHAHA..

Maybe because you call him out on his bullshit, that's why he wants you :p

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Sigh... What can I say. I always call him out n my gut is always right.. He's got so much healing to do.. One min he says he has no feelings the next day he says he's in love with a woman .. (Which my friend who's also a player tells me he only says that to play mind game with me.coz if he was really In love he won't tell me.. ) . On the exact same day he emails me saying he wants to love a woman ( so he did lie ) n respect himself. It's all over the place. Now I still tease him about the mysterious girl he's in love with n pray along with it. Haha he doesn't say much about it. I wonder if he actually knows what is the truth anymore. pray for him. Why I still love him.. The question is beyond me.. I am moving forward though. Hoping to find a loyal man very soon when the time is right. haha .

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Posted by saweetz1988

Posted by stopbeingdelusional

Posted by Sagsagsags

Posted by stopbeingdelusional
I have only seen good boys turning into players. Haven't seen a player converting back to a good boy, yet. (A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

Your friend deserves a shot in the head ?

Do men never think of karma? When they have a daughter?

All players I know from my not-so-saint days usually have a baby girl as their first child.. scaryyy —

He did tell me it can get stressful from time to time when he lies so much that he loses track of his lies himself.

Maybe one day, if he messed with the *wrong type of women*, he'd wake up without his manhood?? God knows.

Even though we are friends, I always wonder why no one has ever done something like that to him yet :p

i wonder if ur friend and this guy i'm involved with is the same man —? sounds so alike my god.. and yes i know he lies a lot.. one day i'm going to face him and says straight to his face why is it that he lies so much, i think its because he can't be honest with his true self.. himself.. thats why he lies.. and yes his balls need to be chopped off .. hahahaha

FUNNY ENOUGH MY FATHER HAS 8 GIRLS>.and the last one is a boy who i found out 20 years later.. HAHAHAHA

i'm also amazed i have a son.. ppl say players always end up with a daughter first.. ..

his second is due this month and its a girl ..

Is your guy a Leo? My friend is a Leo. and at one time, my friend told me he's talking to 8 girls. He's got 4 girls in state and another 4 girls out of state. craziness!

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Lol no he's worst. He's a sag, cap moon Venus in Scorpio. I think he's struggling hard with that placement big time !! Leo are not too bad.. I think ur friend is just in a playing mode.. But they r very very popular people though.. 🙂

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Posted by saweetz1988

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Posted by stopbeingdelusional
I have only seen good boys turning into players. Haven't seen a player converting back to a good boy, yet. (A player I know told me he's addicted to the power of manipulation. To him, it's very enjoyable to know that he has power over multiple girls and he can play them all at once.)

Your friend deserves a shot in the head ?

Do men never think of karma? When they have a daughter?

All players I know from my not-so-saint days usually have a baby girl as their first child.. scaryyy —

He did tell me it can get stressful from time to time when he lies so much that he loses track of his lies himself.

Maybe one day, if he messed with the *wrong type of women*, he'd wake up without his manhood?? God knows.

Even though we are friends, I always wonder why no one has ever done something like that to him yet :p

i wonder if ur friend and this guy i'm involved with is the same man —? sounds so alike my god.. and yes i know he lies a lot.. one day i'm going to face him and says straight to his face why is it that he lies so much, i think its because he can't be honest with his true self.. himself.. thats why he lies.. and yes his balls need to be chopped off .. hahahaha

FUNNY ENOUGH MY FATHER HAS 8 GIRLS>.and the last one is a boy who i found out 20 years later.. HAHAHAHA

i'm also amazed i have a son.. ppl say players always end up with a daughter first.. ..

his second is due this month and its a girl ..

Is your guy a Leo? My friend is a Leo. and at one time, my friend told me he's talking to 8 girls. He's got 4 girls in state and another 4 girls out of state. craziness!

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Lol no he's worst. He's a sag, cap moon Venus in Scorpio. I think he's struggling hard with that placement big time !! Leo are not too bad.. I think ur friend is just in a playing mode.. But they r very very popular people though.. 🙂

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Posted by saweetz1988
Thanks for the responses! . Yeb, i strongly believe old habits die hard ..how the conversation started was that i was teasing him about something sexual ..as normally he would be interested.. ..no not about having sex with me..some kinky stuff we sometimes talk about.. and he no longer showed much interest and so i said..umm seems iike u have changed ? ..lol and he's like..yeahhhh i think i have changed hey.. and then he says..

** my players day are not over my dear **...

now.. maybe he has truly learn something.. having two kids with two different woman who's due this month.. i see hope you know and if he truly has finally saw some light.. but, i'm still doubting if its what sag sag sag says..

He's only saying those things coz he knows its what i wanna hear.. and stringing me along like what Wynter has said..

or maybe he has truly changed.. lol... just sad really.. he said he wanna respect himself and stop playing around and sleeping around.. i told him i don't trust him and maybe he's trying to get me to trust him again..even as friends.. its pretty important.. coz i need to trust him for me to ever one day have him caring for my son. i know its a totally different topic here but it is still important.. but liars and players and cheaters...are habits that hard to change...i have hope but its very slim..

so, what ya say... don't believe him? lol

And why the fckk would you be interesting in a guy who has 2 different women up the duff AT THE SAME TIME. Sheesh! Can it get any worse.

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Obviously I was into him before he got both of us pregnant. I had no idea about the other girl. I'm actually worry about her a lot >< hoping we can be friends Imao but that will prob never happen.

There are major cold detachable planets in alot of people charts just some are re arranged for experience purposes. Lol.

Cap moon, Aqua moon, Capricorn in the 7th, Neptune in Sag. Scorpio in the 5th, Mars and venus. Makes alot of people not commit.

When you meet someone like this be cautious and make sure you can handle the challenge of non commitment be safe, be real, and use protection, and communicate.

And to answer no players don't change. My ex messed around with some chick in high school, she said she got pregnant by him. While I was in friend mode. I was 19 and learned about this 20 years old. I told him to man up and I stuck around nonetheless. So he has a grown kid right now and not in his life at all. Once the mom had his kid she bolted out from school and bounced out of state. ...

He currently has a new girl and kid he told me about. So he has two different mommas. I also got on him about taking care of his kid and he never found the baby momma either. So he is active in his new baby life. Thank God.

Posted by Nevermore
Oh you're talking about same guy that you were overly obsessed & asked constantly about him and his placement on this thread for whole year..

For her and Taurus woman who blindly go into thinking that a person could change for once. Think again. And again. Been through that and live and learned to talk about real life experiences. It's so hard and hurtful and no one could ever break my heart again like my ex did. She chose to take the chance but she is stuck with a kid father that's not changing if he did it will be temporarily.

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Posted by Nevermore
Oh you're talking about same guy that you were overly obsessed & asked constantly about him and his placement on this thread for whole year..

For her and Taurus woman who blindly go into thinking that a person could change for once. Think again. And again. Been through that and live and learned to talk about real life experiences. It's so hard and hurtful and no one could ever break my heart again like my ex did. She chose to take the chance but she is stuck with a kid father that's not changing if he did it will be temporarily.

Yup. But also, there's nothing we can do to change her as well. Even she should focus on her child rather than him to do the father and find someone else who'll do tons of care of her and her child.

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Yeah I thank God for giving me strength and wisdom of getting on birth control because I would be miserable. I just knew I would. Got to think smart kiddo. But now she is miserable and not happy. But you are right focus on the kid and you. And fuck that guy of a baby daddy who just doesn't seem to give two fucks.

Posted by Harukka


John mayer syndrome

What's that like?

But he doesn't have mulitple kids or does he. Haha who knows really. It all boils down to those of you who are in committed relationship stick it out. Those of you who are single wish the best of luck cause this sucks. The person who like to love is not and can't do anything about except move on and take care of yourself.

Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
But he doesn't have mulitple kids or does he. Haha who knows really. It all boils down to those of you who are in committed relationship stick it out. Those of you who are single wish the best of luck cause this sucks. The person who like to love is not and can't do anything about except move on and take care of yourself.

not sure who u were referring to about the woman being unhappy and stuff. i am mainly focused on my baby now.. 24/7 perhaps and very happy 🙂 ihavn't seen the father for a while now..well about a month or more but it doesn't make me sad or miserable or anything. just curious if the player can truly change or not.. obviously based on this thread, the comments are saying its almost impossible. you are right about the detachment placements. his cap moon and sag sun are pretty detached.

my aqua moon n venus in gemini are also pretty detached.

like i said, possibly when he's 70 and can no longer use his penis will he ever stop playing around.. lol

sad really. but why try so hard to tell me he's a changed man a man after i accused him of his behaviour. . perhaps he's trying hard to convince himself he can change and is changed.. the reality is though the other way around.. only time will tell.. my 1 percent hope is there i will admit.. but i'm not waiting on that day no way.. lol

If it is about sun, moon or other planets qualities he will not change, he only can change (if he wants, and has power will and knowing what to do) at angles, like AC and MC.

No

Men rarely change in my experience

More than one of the men i have been in relationship with actually have stated this

*men don't change*

Posted by Libramiss
Words mean nothing to me if you can't live up to it.

agree !