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Just saw a blog about this. What are your thoughts?

"Big women are usually more humble since they aren't preferred as much as women with smaller figures. Big women don't send men through as many hoops or changes like smaller women do because they subconsciously & consciously put the extra effort into treating men like kings & prized possessions with the knowing that getting a man to even commit to a fat woman in the 1st place is not as common or admired socially. They tend to do more in bed, in the kitcehn & everything else they hear of women getting left behind for not doing. Them wanting love like everyone else is beautiful, but them making moves on men based on a foundation of fear is unhealthy & even more damaging to the self-esteem."

Have any of you been guilty of purposely giving more b/c you believe in certain society stereotypes, even though you know those stereotypes aren't fair?


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Posted by b1tchcrafts
What is plus sized exactly?



That definition lies in the eye of the beholder. The numerical size itself isn't what matters b/c people will always debate about what technically constitutes as 'plus-sized.' It's about each man's personal perception & definition of what it means to be a plus-sized woman.

Plus, if the woman in question believes herself that she's considered plus-sized even though the men around her don't, she may fear a stereotype that doesn't even exist with the men around her.
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Posted by cancerdreamer9
plus sized women should stop complaining and being lazy and work on themselves.



I can't even knock you for this mentality b/c a lot of people have it. And plus-sized women are aware of & know this too, which kind of plays into the hands of what the blogger originally said...that plus-sized women put much more effort into their relationships simply b/c they fear that if they don't, it'll magnify & call a lot of attention to what's wrong with or supposedly unattractive about them in the 1st place.
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Definitely less superficial and self absorbed, but definitely harder to be physically attracted to.

Another one of life's cruel jokes.



Visit Craigslist Personals some day. Lots of fatties with ridiculous standards.

This is their typical ad, Cap:

" I got 5 kids from 5 different fathers, don't have a job, have genital herpes, 4'5, 300 lbs.

You should be: Tall, athletic, rich. If you are not in into Big beautiful you are shallow."


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Lol....where do I sign up?

Surely there is the obligatory chick profile opening line as well.

"I don't do drama, not a whore, and won't sleep with you after the first date. If that's what you're here for -- move along!!!"

*eyeroll*
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Posted by PVandJellay
This is a myth perpetuated to validate the agenda of mainstream media . Plus size women aren't walking around with low self esteem or kidding ass for love. At least not in in the black community. I can't speak for other cultures.



It's not a myth, except for the black community, I suppose.

There, the skinny girl, with a normal sized ass is ostracized.

Fat white girls have terrible esteem issues.

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i saw this on yahoo news. where bigger plus size women are now on Sports Illustrated.

Well this has Always been a big thing right? Look at the Dove Commercials that have been going on for years.
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anyway why are you so concerned with this, krysenee?

i know in real life, lots of women who are plus sizes have plenty of suitors.

they don't have problems at all.

it looks like the main concern of what you quoted. That they can't get men.
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Posted by CapTenn
Posted by PVandJellay
This is a myth perpetuated to validate the agenda of mainstream media . Plus size women aren't walking around with low self esteem or kidding ass for love. At least not in in the black community. I can't speak for other cultures.



It's not a myth, except for the black community, I suppose.

There, the skinny girl, with a normal sized ass is ostracized.

Fat white girls have terrible esteem issues.



Not all of them.



Courtney Maxwell

I know plenty of regular plus size women who don't have self esteem issues. And I live in Asia, where petite = beautiful
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well if we all want to get realllllllyyyyyy technical:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/FAT<BR>
fat
(f??t)
n.
1.
a. The ester of glycerol and one, two, or three fatty acids.

b. Any of various soft, solid, or semisolid organic compounds constituting the esters of glycerol and fatty acids and their associated organic groups.

c. A mixture of such compounds occurring widely in organic tissue, especially in the adipose tissue of animals and in the seeds, nuts, and fruits of plants.

d. Animal tissue containing such substances.

e. A solidified animal or vegetable oil.

2. Obesity; corpulence: health risks associated with fat.

3. Unnecessary excess: "would drain the appropriation's fat without cutting into education's muscle" (New York Times).

adj. fat??ter, fat??test
1. Having much or too much fat or flesh; plump or obese.

2. Full of fat or oil; greasy.

3. Abounding in desirable elements: a paycheck fat with bonus money.

4. Fertile or productive; rich: "It was a fine, green, fat landscape" (Robert Louis Stevenson).

5. Having an abundance or amplitude; well-stocked: a fat larder.

6.
a. Yielding profit or plenty; lucrative or rewarding: a fat promotion.
b. Prosperous; wealthy: grew fat on illegal profits.

7. a. Thick; large: a fat book.
b. Puffed up; swollen: a fat lip.

tr. & intr.v. fat??ted, fat??ting, fats
To make or become fat; fatten.
Idioms:
a fat lot Slang
Very little or none at all: a fat lot of good it will do him.

fat chance Slang
Very little or no chance.

the fat is in the fire
Bad consequences are sure to follow; trouble lies ahead.

the fat of the land
Desirable resources, especially when acquired with little effort: I fantasized about buying a farm and living off the fat of the land.
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This is a myth perpetuated to validate the agenda of mainstream media . Plus size women aren't walking around with low self esteem or kidding ass for love. At least not in in the black community. I can't speak for other cultures.



It's not a myth, except for the black community, I suppose.

There, the skinny girl, with a normal sized ass is ostracized.

Fat white girls have terrible esteem issues.

I'm also from southern United States, so being a little plump is fine.
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yeah i agree w/ you on cultural.

Asians (in general) want thin, slender bodies.

same thing with skin bleaching ect. Or making their eyes bigger through surgery.

Also, my mother in law told me that in her previous work, she learned from coworkers and students that plenty of Iranian women get nose jobs. to make their noses smaller. Don't know how much truth that is, i'd have to google.
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Posted by PVandJellay
This is a myth perpetuated to validate the agenda of mainstream media . Plus size women aren't walking around with low self esteem or kidding ass for love. At least not in in the black community. I can't speak for other cultures.



It's not a myth, except for the black community, I suppose.

There, the skinny girl, with a normal sized ass is ostracized.

Fat white girls have terrible esteem issues.

I'm also from southern United States, so being a little plump is fine.



yeah i agree w/ you on cultural.

Asians (in general) want thin, slender bodies.

same thing with skin bleaching ect. Or making their eyes bigger through surgery.

Also, my mother in law told me that in her previous work, she learned from coworkers and students that plenty of Iranian women get nose jobs. to make their noses smaller. Don't know how much truth that is, i'd have to google.



South Asians and Asians in the Malay Archipelago prefer their women plus sized. It's usually only Asians in the Far East who like everything small (except for boobage).

Where I am, majority of the population is of Far East Asian origin. A lot of the plus sized women I know (i.e. bigger than size 16) have very few or no self esteem issues when it comes to their size. But I have noticed the ones with massive self esteem issues are the smaller sized girls (size 12 and below). They all want to be size 0. LOL.
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So, at some point (over size 16), the big gals say "fuck it"?

That happens in 'Merica, too. In huge numbers.
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Posted by lisabethur8
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Posted by PVandJellay
This is a myth perpetuated to validate the agenda of mainstream media . Plus size women aren't walking around with low self esteem or kidding ass for love. At least not in in the black community. I can't speak for other cultures.


It's not a myth, except for the black community, I suppose.
There, the skinny girl, with a normal sized ass is ostracized.
Fat white girls have terrible esteem issues.

I'm also from southern United States, so being a little plump is fine.


yeah i agree w/ you on cultural.

Asians (in general) want thin, slender bodies.

same thing with skin bleaching ect. Or making their eyes bigger through surgery.

Also, my mother in law told me that in her previous work, she learned from coworkers and students that plenty of Iranian women get nose jobs. to make their noses smaller. Don't know how much truth that is, i'd have to google.


South Asians and Asians in the Malay Archipelago prefer their women plus sized. It's usually only Asians in the Far East who like everything small (except for boobage).
Where I am, majority of the population is of Far East Asian origin. A lot of the plus sized women I know (i.e. bigger than size 16) have very few or no self esteem issues when it comes to their size. But I have noticed the ones with massive self esteem issues are the smaller sized girls (size 12 and below). They all want to be size 0. LOL.
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i have lived in the south pacific, so well, the skinny women still get men looking at them. It's the same everywhere.
well, that can also be said for bigger sized women. Let's just agree that it IS attitude. There's no need to compare who is better. The bigger sized women or the smaller framed, thinner women. It seems futile.
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So here's the thing. There are 2 types of Plus size women.

1. The ones that were chubby kids, teenagers and now adults.
2. The ones that gained weight after children or college or simply with age.

The latter seem to have self esteem issues. As one of the formers I have never been skinny. I have no idea what it even feels like to put on a size 6 or 8. However, I have been this way all of my life so I have mastered my physical appearance. I am a size 16.

I hear things like you are such a fly big girl or you dress your ass off to be a big girl. These micro aggressions are just weird.

I don't think I do anything extra to get or keep a man. In fact, I probably do less because I think I am such a prize.

I am pretty, a college graduate, have a very good paying job, own my own home, fashionable, caring and kind, no baby daddies or serious health issues. I have never ever had a problem finding, getting or keeping a man. Eva. I struggle more with getting rid of their asses to be honest.

Generally when I hear a woman going all out to get or keep a man it has more to do with needing financial assistance than it does with low self esteem.

On another note skinny black women have the same issues as fat white women. They want bigger butts and chests. It is what it is.

Full Disclosure..My ex was white. I mean real white like Flannel shirts, Nascar watchin, American Sniper luvin white. He once said something about my weight and I said fair enough. Now let's talk about your missing hair and the fact that you are trying to cover it up gel. You see we all have personal preferences.
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this topic NEEDS MUSIC.

and a mars man is gonna siinnngggg it!!!! a whole lotta ROSIE!!

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Wanna tell you a story
'Bout a woman I know
When it comes to lovin'
Oh she steals the show
She ain't exactly pretty
Ain't exactly small
Forty-two, thirty-nine, fifty-six
You could say she's got it all
Never had a woman
Never had a woman like you
Doing all the things
Doing all the things you do
Ain't no fairy story
Ain't no skin and bone
But you give it all you got
Weighing in at nineteen stone!!!!!!
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Posted by tiziani
Big women aren't more humble. Like PVAF said that is a complete myth.


Big women tend to get a lot more male attention where I'm from, because guys assume they have lower standards and are easier to land.


As a consequence, big women have the biggest egos based off this for a while. It's a weird effect. Human nature.



When I was about 12 or 13. 7th grade I think my dad sat me down on the couch and said listen.."Fat girls are easy. Don't be easy". I didn't even know what easy meant in that context.
I also liked a guy when I was about 21 and he told me you are very nice but I like skinny girls. We are still friends to this day. I can respect a person's choice and I appreciate the honesty. He certainly could have pretended to like me just to smash.
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Big women aren't more humble. Like PVAF said that is a complete myth.


Big women tend to get a lot more male attention where I'm from, because guys assume they have lower standards and are easier to land.


As a consequence, big women have the biggest egos based off this for a while. It's a weird effect. Human nature.



When I was about 12 or 13. 7th grade I think my dad sat me down on the couch and said listen.."Fat girls are easy. Don't be easy". I didn't even know what easy meant in that context.
I also liked a guy when I was about 21 and he told me you are very nice but I like skinny girls. We are still friends to this day. I can respect a person's choice and I appreciate the honesty. He certainly could have pretended to like me just to smash.
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i love honest men like that, telling it like it is. If even some of them say, hey, i'm not into you cause you're just not religious enough for me, coooool. (men have preferences, it's Always gonna be that way. just like women have preferences).
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Posted by e11e
the entire 'plus size' topic is so skewed it isn't even funny. anyone who decides to surrender to the whole entire bullshit and all these 'professional' bloggers are idiots. You will find just as many stories telling you the opposite, just as you will find just as many stories telling you how to lose weight or naturally enhance your chest size.

This is an example of how skewed shit is.....

I have two male coworkers.

I've been on a low carb diet for some time now....lost a bit of weight and it works for me, so I stay on it. It gives me a lot of energy and I could stand to lose another 20 pounds anyways.

I'm constantly turning down offers to go to lunch with them because I bring my own low carb variety lunch.

So.....they come to me with concerns that I'm losing 'too much' weight and maybe that is unhealthy....that I look great where I'm at and don't need to lose anymore weight.

me? I'm like....meh, fuck you...I'll do what I want...and when I get to a place I'm comfortable, I'll stop and have a cupcake. Thanks anyways. 😄

THEN....in the next breath, one of the guys is talking about his wife and how she wants to lose 15 pounds and he loves her just the way she is....and he blurts out her weight in pounds.

THEN....the other guys says..."What if she blows up to XXX pounds, would you still love her?"

The married guys says...."Hell no, that would be grounds for divorce."

Well, guess what? I am at the very same weight as he would 'divorce' her at.

THIS is why things are so blown out of proportion (no pun intended). People have some really screwed up 'benchmarks' on what healthy is supposed to be and it's a CONSTANT moving target.

I gave up on that crap a long time ago....and as far as the OP's blog goes....whatthehellever....I do what I want.

I'm a size 14...sometimes 16 and have been like that forever. I will never ever fit into a size 10 or 8.5 shoe.

I will treat my partner like the king he is. I will cook, I will clean and my mars will do just about anything asked of me in the bedroom......if you think that is because I'm plus sized....the joke is on you. It's because I am a WOMAN and respect myself and the MAN I'm with.



lol@ the yelling out the weight. I hope men have more discretion than that, at least for their wife.
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I think they should just go for black guys. They seem to be very fond of gross fat women LOL!



LOL!! you are so bad. but you can get away with it. 😛

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I think a lot of the time the pressure comes from OTHER women rather than the men.
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I agree.

but i read somewhere that women who are catty to eachother are usually the ones talking about how skinny is better and so forth, when that is NOT fair. every woman is different and their body structure/height/bone structure is different.

and that when women want to seduce men, it's NEVER about the skinniness. It's low cut dresses, boob and cleaveage showiness, and leg action. Legggggs all the way up high, and a nice rounded butt to spank. That's what men like.

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...and not all 'plus size' women dream of being skinny.

I was sitting in a meeting a few months ago with this woman I had never met before. Her wrists were about the diameter of my thumb. I couldn't help thinking how vulnerable she was. How the hell could she ward off a mugger? lol. My moon's imagination went wild and I'm thinking to myself..."I bet you I could walk right over there and bench press her."...and I don't even lift weights 😛

I just think we need to stop the entire nonsense.

Obesity in America is REAL....but being size 14/16 is not OBESE...and when we are compared to those that are upwards of size 24 and beyond...that's when women's psyche gets affected.

btw, lisbeth...he is a gemini with a gemini merc...you can only imagine some of things he blurts out. 😛



i feeeellll sooooo bad for his wife.

"My wife was wearing granny panties this morning." he jokes to his office coworkers.

"when my wife laughs, she snorts out loud, sometimes the rice comes out of her nose, when she is eating."

i think people won't even believe him anymore. *smh*

and the women at the office are shaking their head, thinking, "poor woman. to be married to such a man."
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I agree that fat-shaming is not as prevalent in the black community. However, black men have their own perceptions of what 'fat' means too. What another culture considers fat, those in the black community might consider 'just thick.'

Problem is, what happens when the black man (or whoever) actually considers a woman fat, according to their own individual definition of 'fat?' Then what...?

I think black men are a little bit more flexible about what it means to be 'fat,' but there's no doubt that there are plenty of them who wouldn't take a second look if they saw a woman that fit their personal definition/perception of fat.

There is this perception for some reason that all overweight women are unhappy & that all skinny women are happy...that most men prefer smaller-sized women vs. the bigger women who know that their likelihood of snatching a man's attention faster is way less than the women who are smaller than her...

To be fair though, I think a lot of plus-sized women started the rumor that fat = unhappy. Big women/men complain all the time about being unhappy & ashamed...not necessarily enough to change their physique, but still nonetheless, they still feel the way they feel. So it's not entirely fair to say that only smaller-sized people associate fat with misery.
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Posted by Rambunctious76
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The average dress size In UK and Ireland is 14-16, what is considered plus size?



We follow the same metric system as the UK. Here in Singapore it's anybody size 14 and above.

Most of the shops here usually only sell clothes for women up to size 12. Only international brands/dept stores sell up to size 20 here.



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Aren't european and american sizes different? Like in America size 16 is a lot bigger than size 16 in Europe? Don't know where I got that from, maybe I made it up, but I've always thought that.
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If you're skinny, you are bullied to gain weight..
If you are fluffy you are bullied to lose weight..

So do what you can to make yourself happy and healthy. Even alittle a day changes everything..

According to my BMI, three years ago I took a selfie and it looked like I was six months prego( obese by BMI standards). I got really determined to lose weight. And I did the dieting, that didn't work..

So I did Taebo, Jillian Michael, Dense Austin exercise videos, also gold gym cardio fitness on wii(boxing), a few games on wii, and a treadmill..I lost 25 lbs within a year I think. I was so amazed that I bought a pair of skinny jeans and replaced alot of my pants and shirts.

It all depends on the physiological and psychological of the person.
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
If you're skinny, you are bullied to gain weight..
If you are fluffy you are bullied to lose weight..


So do what you can to make yourself happy and healthy. Even alittle a day changes everything..

According to my BMI, three years ago I took a selfie and it looked like I was six months prego( obese by BMI standards). I got really determined to lose weight. And I did the dieting, that didn't work..

So I did Taebo, Jillian Michael, Dense Austin exercise videos, also gold gym cardio fitness on wii(boxing), a few games on wii, and a treadmill..I lost 25 lbs within a year I think. I was so amazed that I bought a pair of skinny jeans and replaced alot of my pants and shirts.

It all depends on the physiological and psychological of the person.



lol so true on those above accounts. *smh*

everyone is Always looking at everyone's body and comparing and vicariously living through their bodies. lol
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Big women aren't more humble. Like PVAF said that is a complete myth.


Big women tend to get a lot more male attention where I'm from, because guys assume they have lower standards and are easier to land.


As a consequence, big women have the biggest egos based off this for a while. It's a weird effect. Human nature.



When I was about 12 or 13. 7th grade I think my dad sat me down on the couch and said listen.."Fat girls are easy. Don't be easy". I didn't even know what easy meant in that context.


I didn't realize this was a general male sentiment. How sad. 😢 But if they go for fat women because they consider them low hanging fruit...what does that say about them?
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PVAF, for the larger ladies, there are plenty of men out there that would love to have them as their partners. My husband and i had a talk about this too, since i brought it up, and he showed me on the internet how there are plenty of men who actually "control" their women, where their women are FED, these types of men love having their women very large. But i think that's not good though. My husband believes those men like to "control" their women so they won't go anywhere.

but honestly, there are plenty of women out there with men who aren't controlling them to be unhealthy. I guess if the man doesn't love her for who she is, then he isn't for her, and she isn't for him. My aunts and one of my sisters are considered larger size, but they are married to good men who don't care about that. They do however want them to work out so they can be healthy. It's not good to be unhealthy. Working out a few times a week and eating good.
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@rambunct,

i dont know. The "urge "comes from something deeply ingrained and psychological though.

i haven't really delved deep into what goes on their psyche nor do i care to, but there's been accounts of women who have lost weight and their husbands have ignored them and these women only lost weight so they can WALK and walk easily around, (for health reasons) and these women got DEPRESSED that their husband's ignored them.

so i dont know what to say to that.
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I don't think a lot of people, especially men, are honest about the fact that media & societal pressure somewhat shapes their perception of what they consider 'attractive.'

No one wants to think or admit that they have been brainwashed even just a tad bit...or that society either dictates what they like or what they bring home...that they're followers of the very same double standards & stereotypes that they speak out against.

They say that women don't dress for men...they dress for other women. I think a lot of people pick their partners based on how they ASSUME others (family, friends, peers, coworkers, strangers on Facebook) will perceive & possibly judge them.