Stereotypes by race (women)

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So many of the guys I've talked to who have decided to date outside of their race always site some specific stereotype as being the reason they decided to go interracial. There always seems to be some big reason for why they do.

To my surprise, alot of men/women have their own biasis towards women of certain races. In my mind, women are women.
But to some guys, they literally think there is a difference b/w the races.

I've heard that...
*Black women are too loud, try too hard to be independent, nag too much, bring too much drama and/or come from dysfunctional families

*White women (especially those who are choosen by a man that's NOT white) are submissive & usually put up with a shxt ton of crap, as opposed to women of other races.

*Hispanic women are fiesty & are quick to get their families or atleast a large group of people involved whenever they're having issues with someone. Some men even think hispanic women are keepers b/c they all love to cook & spoil their partners

*Asian women are submissive to their husbands (a part of their culture) & that men never really have to worry about their asian beauty gaining much weight (this comes from the false misconception that asian/chinese women tend to have very SMALL frames/bodies)

And the list goes on & on...
I don't necessarily agree with any of those stereotypes b/c after all, stereotypes are stereotypes but I find it interesting that some men literally shy away from certain women b/c of race & the stereotypes that come with certain races.

My thing is this, women are women! We ALL have the potential to be a little whiny, nag you too death, come with some baggage/drama, be fiesty, try a little hard to prove our independence, come from some sort of dysfunctional background, etc.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STEREOTYPES PERTAINING TO WOMEN OF DIFFERENT RACES THAT YOU'VE HEARD OF?
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I have heard that African-American women come across as mentioned above, but not ALL are. Growing up in the city and having attended a city public high school, the sterotypes of African-Americans were very prevalent. I concur with alot of what Carribbiangold said. Having traveled through Europe, I did notice that alot of EU men are a bit more open-minded when it comes to women as opposed to American men.

The EU life style is also alot differnt compared to American life style . Europeans tend to be a bit more relaxed and "unphased" by particular stereotypes. We also have different histories as well.

I have heard alot about the Asian stereotypes as well....they make me laugh! All Asians are good at science, math..etc.. I personally don't buy into stereotypes, if anything I like to educate myself more and learn about WHY people believe these to be true.

You make a good point K7, women are women and ALL of us (male or female have a tendancy to pack baggage), however, I do believe that any situation is what we make of it. If we choose to buy into the stereotypes, then yes, that will be projected (if the shoe fits WEAR it). If not, then let your values, morals and faith guide you and define who you are....NOT the stereotype.
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I agree. Stereotypes are here for a REASON, BUT I think people forget about the other 5 million people in each race that easily defy those stereotypes.

The 1 sec. we stereotype a black woman as being loud, for example, here comes 10 black women who are the complete OPPOSITE!

HA! And yeah, I think we've all heard the Asian Stereotypes. They're supposedly very smart, are very good in math/science & tend to pick hair/nails as their main pick of trade. Smh. I think this is the 1 stereotype I don't usually see Asian women surpassing. Mostly all of the Asian women I see do tend to fit into this bracket BUT then again, people see what they want to see. There is a whole world out here, so I'm sure only the Asians where I'm from tend to be this way. I'd be ignorant & quite arrogant to assume that what goes on in my neighborhood/town/city must go on EVERYWHERE.

I'm African American so I've dealt with racial stereotypes as a woman AND for simply being black in itself. I've heard, "Oh you're very pretty for a dark skinned girl," & when I hear this I get so offended! I've also heard, "Oh you're very well spoken for a black woman." It's like really? That's the same as me saying, "Wow, I didn't think beauty or intelligence was a part of the black culture, congratulations!" WTF!

I've hung around with women of ALL races & let me tell you, we ALL can be a hot mess! We all can be loud, overly sensitive, unintelligent, submissive, looking for someone to rescue us, nag too much, etc.

It's 1 thing to date interracially b/c you don't want to limit yourself in love, BUT I cringe every time I see a person who refuses to date their own race OR whom has specific reasons for dating women of other races, b/c I know up front/immediately that some sort of stereotype must be at work in their minds. So sad
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Can I do men?

The stereotypes about white men v black women and black men v white women have historical contexts. We believe in the stereotypes, the fallacy due to centuries of indoctrination and lies perpetrated primarily by racist white men.

I don't mind the stereotypes though because if it's not due to my race, it's due to my gender, or the music I listen to or the fact that I like brie 😛

The point is, keep em guessing.

But as far as stereotypes for black women, some of the white men I've dated CLEARLY have misconceptions and given that I got shit to do, now isn't the time to go into it.

Ta!
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@Kyrs I agree with your common those sterotype can be found in the city where I live. As myself being an african american women I hate when white people say things around me that they should know better than to say but I can't get mad because they just don't know better. Where I work I am the only black person in my office and I have always work in a majority white offices but it's funny I get along with everyone fine until they say yeah I want braids like yours if i happen to get some braids but my hair is just too fine, or I love how you (black people) discipline your kids, and just other non-sense that I feel they should keep to theirselves but they feel like they want to make conversation with me and they call their selves giving me a compliment when really it is not. As far as myself I am open to dating any race I have dating blacks, whites, and even this asian guy to men a men is simply a men.
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The first time I dated outside my race was when I wanted some help in Calculus. I met this Asian chick and figured I'd be set. How did I find the one Asian chick who was bad at math?!

Then I dated a black girl. She was actually very quiet... until she got mad. Then it turned into the finger snapping, eye rolling, ghetto fabulous woman I was expecting. She was my Baltimore hood rat at heart, she just tried to hide it. She and I stayed good friends until she moved near the end of high school.

I did really "date" the Mexican girl. We hung out and partied together for a couple weeks and had a lot of fun but you can't really consider it dating if I didn't know what she was saying half the time right?. Her family knew my family and she came up to MD to visit.


Maybe it's from where/how I grew up but I never pay much attention to that kind of stuff unless we are making fun of them. But all said and done, I like stereotypes. They are funny.
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Posted by woundedbird

Ask yourself this:

you are alone at night in a bad area and you need some money from the ATM.

you get out of the car and begin to walk up to machine, suddenly three ___________ guys are approaching you. are you scared? what do you do? You are somewhere in the United States

now go over the same senario filling in the blank.

1. Jews

2. Blacks

3. Hispanics

4. Indians

5. Whites

6. Middle Eastern varieties



I think all people are crazy and out to kill me so the question isn't who to be afraid of, it's knowing how to defend yourself...

1. Jews. Throw a handful of change across the street. They'll all chase after it and you can make your get away.

2. Blacks. Three black guys mean at least three guns. Make sure you have a bullet proof vest.

3. Hispanics stab people, the vest should be sufficient here as well.

4. Indians... dot or feather Indians? Are we talking bow and arrow shit here?

5. Whites. White people are the worst. We could blow you up, lure you to a dark alley and cannibalize you, molest your children... white people are the ones to watch out for. Our crimes are disgusting.

6. Middle Eastern. No Kevlar is going to save you from the vests these guys are wearing. You may as well just start shouting Jihad so they think you're on their side.


There we go, I think everyone is nice and offended now...
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Stereotypes exist because they apply to a few people within the stereotyped group, but incidentally they also apply to people of other groups as well which makes having stereotypes really pointless. People should stop trying to categorize into tiny groups and get to know the individual. If you go into a relationship expecting a woman to be one of those stereotypes based on her ethnicity then you're racist and shouldn't be dating her anyway.
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1st of all, if I seen a group of males coming up on me at an ATM, I'd be scared & paranoid regardless. In a scenario like that, it wouldn't really matter what race each guy was. The mere fact that a group of men were approaching me in such an isolated area period, would scare me & cause me to be a little nervous.

I especially hate to hear people still making ignorant jokes/comments about those from middle eastern countries. Today at work, I heard someone say, "Oh no, we shouldn't hire him; he belongs to the type of people that blew up the world trade centers." It's like really?! I think ignorance is just as bad as ignorance b/c the person committing the violence must've been ignorant to begin with! I don't get nervous/scared/paranoid when I'm in an elevator with anyone from a middle eastern country. I swear, the min. ignorant (keyword) people see anyone with a turban on, they immediately stereotype that person & that's wrong. There's NO excuse for it.

So many people know that stereotyping is wrong, but yet they still continue to feed into it. It's amazing how guys have been able to say sooooooo many bad things about women in general, but yet their azses can't seem to stay away or discriminate! If it's truly about staying away from anything that represents something you'd consider negative, all men would be gay OR atleast they wouldn't have any relations with us b/c where I come from, women are women & we're all damn near the same!
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Posted by PandorasBox
Yeah.. But arent stereotypes in the same family as generaizations? Almost like a consensus as wierd as that sounds.

It just comes down to ea. individual and what they believe to be true or not.



Well I think there is a difference. When we think of the word "stereotypes" there's usually some negative/ignorant connotation/association behind it VS. generalizations that can be often good just like they can be bad.

I think there's a difference b/w saying all black women are ghetto (stereotype) VS. saying that all women period are sentitive or feminine (generalization).

I do however think that stereotypes & generalizations can correlate, especially if someone makes a generalization out of ignorance.

Technically no one's 1 time (or million times) experience represents what it's really like. Your experience with 1 race or gender might be completely different than someone else's experiences even if they are the same sign as you, live in the same neighborhood/city as you and/or come from the same side of the tracks as you.

Someone who may think all black women (for example) are ghetto is alot harder of a person to deal with vs. someone who may think all women are ghetto or a certain way. Ignorance (especially if it's learned through parents/family) is the strongest mindset to break. Someone who was taught to be racist b/c they grew up around racist family/friends is LESS likely to change their thinking vs. someone who only thinks women are a certain way b/c of 1 damn girl who did them wrong.
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Posted by taurusdreamer
This article may be of some interest:


http://www.unc.edu/~bkpayne/publications/Payne_2006_Stereotypes-focus-defensive-projection.pdfBR ">Stereotypes Focus Defensive Projection


Analysis of the origin of stereotypes, they people they are created about, and those who rely on them often seem to concur with this article, and it is what I have personally noted about people who rely upon stereotypes.

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I like stereotypes. I don't "rely" on them... they are stereotypes not facts. They are not going to be true about everyone in any group but if people dropped the defensive stance and gave an honest look... the stereotypes are there for a reason. Most of them anyway. People just get offended too easily.

Plus, they make for some funny t-shits. I had one like this that I wore around Baltimore years back... it is funny.

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See, I beat that is going to piss someone off
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Yes, stereotypes are there for a reason BUT there's also a reason why people who believe in them are considered ignorant.

There's no point in me getting all hyped up in stereotypes b/c for every 1 person that fulfills that stereotype, there's another 2 people who don't. So the ignorance should always be short-lived.

Problem is, even when people see others NOT fitting the mold for certain stereotypes, they STILL continue to believe in them; some even actually base their whole basis for who they date/how and where they live on stereotypes. Smh

I know plenty of black women who are about are not loud, not even when they're mad or enraged to the fullest extent. I know plenty of hispanic women who hate cooking lol. I know plenty of chinese/japanese people who are dumb as rocks & suck in math/science. I know plenty of white women who will pull a knife out on a man in a heartbeat (vs. the stereotypical passive "put up or shut up.") I know plenty of women period who are not feminine, or nurturing like typical "women" supposedly "should be."

Just comes to show, the very minute we play into stereotypes, here comes someone walking down the street that defies that same stereotypes. If you're gonna believe in stereotypes, atleast make sure that your ignorance about a certain race is short lived. But to see 5 non-loud black women all day long only to still claim all black women are "loud" is just ignorant & quite honestly, just as horrible as whatever it is you're probably stereotyping another person for. There is nothing worse than ignorance
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i am of mixed ethnicity. i have preferences but it is beyond my control. i tend to be attracted mostly to white guys,

mate selection is a much more complicated process than we give it credit for. i was raised in an area where it was predominantly white and asian yet i never acquired the "taste" for asians; even of my own kind. it's not that i find most people unattractive of any race really. in fact, i'm rarely purely sexually attracted to anyone. only a small fraction of my desire for anyone is based on looks. my own interests, hobbies, musical tastes, the things in life that i am passionate about... they are usually heavily laden with white males. that's just how it is.
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Posted by ninjamu
i am of mixed ethnicity. i have preferences but it is beyond my control. i tend to be attracted mostly to white guys,

mate selection is a much more complicated process than we give it credit for. i was raised in an area where it was predominantly white and asian yet i never acquired the "taste" for asians; even of my own kind. it's not that i find most people unattractive of any race really. in fact, i'm rarely purely sexually attracted to anyone. only a small fraction of my desire for anyone is based on looks. my own interests, hobbies, musical tastes, the things in life that i am passionate about... they are usually heavily laden with white males. that's just how it is.



Well that's diff. It's 1 thing to only be attracted to a certain race b/c you are constantly in an environment where that particular race is around. If you're exposed to specific races more than others, it's only natural to go with what you have.

In other words, if you're asian & were raised in an predominantly white/asian neighborhood/community, it's no surprise that you might find yourself only (or mostly) attracted to asians/whites.

BUT, there are some people who are exposed to ALL races & who grew up around diversity, but yet STILL fall prey to stereotypes. They think they are doing themselves a favor/saving themselves from harm by staying away from certain races as a whole, but to those who are not ignorant, we see things differently. We see those kinds of people as actually losing and/or missing out on a lot b/c they are so shallow/closed-minded.