
krysrenee7
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Posted by krysrenee7
So many people believe that love isn't like it used to be
Couples aren't together for nearly as long (like our grandparents/parents)
There's more single mothers now than ever before
The divorce rate is at an all time high
Matter of fact, the rate at which people are even getting married has drastically decreased in the last 10 years
These are statistically proven facts. What's truly debatable is WHY this seems to be so
Our generation seems to have a completely different definition and morale of love, marriage & committment
So what went wrong?
Are there any definitions of love, mentalities about committment/marriage/love that you saw/experienced back then but no longer see as much anymore? If so, why do you think that is?
WHAT CHANGED?!
Have men primarily changed? Women primarily changed? Media? Lowered standards as a generation? Too high of standards as a generation?
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Posted by krysrenee7
So many people believe that love isn't like it used to be
Couples aren't together for nearly as long (like our grandparents/parents)
There's more single mothers now than ever before
The divorce rate is at an all time high
Matter of fact, the rate at which people are even getting married has drastically decreased in the last 10 years
These are statistically proven facts. What's truly debatable is WHY this seems to be so
Our generation seems to have a completely different definition and morale of love, marriage & committment
So what went wrong?
Are there any definitions of love, mentalities about committment/marriage/love that you saw/experienced back then but no longer see as much anymore? If so, why do you think that is?
WHAT CHANGED?!
Have men primarily changed? Women primarily changed? Media? Lowered standards as a generation? Too high of standards as a generation?
Talk to me



Posted by DMV
Women's movement
Rap Music
the women's movement was designed to improve the status of women in this country. but it has switched the traditional gender roles. women are closing in on the income gap with men. theyre also occupying more of middle mangement and upper. there are more women CEOs than b4.
stay at home moms? thing of the past. stay at home dad now exist. Mr. Mom. women are the primary breadwinners and have essentially castrated men and have done away with a man's natural desire to provide. what are men left to do?
rap music is awful and has sensationalized a man's desire to have a wife, mistress, and a girlfriend. the dummies out there believe and the even dumber girls accept it. what a real women left to do?
women dont feel as confined by a man and his decision-making power. they can leave, unless you have kids than you have a decision to make. but if you a single girl with no kids, you settle for nothing. you leave and than is insecurity to a man.



Posted by 25thDecan
Rap music? It's scope isn't near as large as rock music. It isn't the "movement" people make it out to be..and never will be. It just looks less caucasian-oriented in its marketing trends.
Idk....people are getting married later...could be they are ready for it later. People are staying married for lesser amounts of time..well, since it was actually "kept track of", dig? Additionally, people are living longer. That's long enough time for this to have changed: women are no longer property at the numerical number they were prior to "today". In the past, worldwide...you married a woman and what was "hers"...was yours(male). Divorce rates are up..now that women can..DECIDE moreso now than ever.
Is this "bad"? Hmm....I don't see a rise in serial killing. Check it...I'm right..because serial killers got away with it and existed at a much larger scale prior to true investigative law enforcement WORLDWIDE. What about actual theft and violent crime? Not quite on the rise per se in most major urban centers. So what is truly "wrong"? Change. Like rejection, change can be seen but not always tangibly embraced as it happens. You can resist it(usually futile), fear it, anticipate it, fear it and avoid it during anticipation and yet...it happens. Such is life.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Uh, women's movement? Men losing their power?
No.
Maybe in the area where women just don't roll over and constrict themselves to gender roles that gave the men dominant power in the relationship. You were the good wife, let your man provide, and you just dealt with it. Divorce was never spoken of. You were married and you dealt with it, even if he cheated or abused you. You were the little woman and just put up with his shit. Divorce was out of the question and even if you did, the woman had a stigma for doing so.
It's no coincidence that depression was rampant amongst housewives before the women's movement in the 60s.
However, overall, the problem seems to stem from the mindset that started with the infamous Dr. Spock- entitled and selfish children who have been raising several generations who are more selfish and entitled than before. Working out a marriage? NOWAI. I HATE HIM/HER, THIS ISN'T WORKING AND MY WHIM ISN'T FUN ANYMORE. LET'S DIVORCE NOW. KTHX!! People have become very immature in relationships and how they view them.
I think marriage has lost it's "importance" in our society. It was originally there as a way for a man to claim a woman as his possession (this is why she takes on his name). From there, it evolved into something that people took very seriously as it was a lifelong commitment. Anymore, people just don't take it seriously. I can't count how many people I've known who were engaged within months of meeting, only to break it off another few months later.
That, combined with divorce not being so taboo anymore, seem to be pretty obvious factors in the whole idea of marriage and why it just doesn't last as much.



Posted by 25thDecan
Lil Wayne's influence isn't a DROP compared to Bono, McCarthy, Hendrix...are you serious? Seriously, I disagree that RAP is the problem. What other music uses different subject content than rap? Nothing except gospel...and gospel is...smh.
Music= love, love unrequited, mysogyny, death, drug usage and abuse, suicide, divorce, MARRIAGE, infidelity, money, money loss, braggadocio of all included....
What was Elvis' typical song content?
Dig what I'm saying. If you don't like rap...cool. blaming RAP for what people do....cmon, really? I just don't see it.

Posted by 25thDecan
It can't be rap...entries on billboard vs actual SALES WORLDWIDE...rap can't touch rock OR blues. No...love problems worldwide aren't because of music..it's people. BUT..who honestly would trade the freedom of a woman for more choice in who she loves and how she pursues quality of life today vs being a child rearing mule before "today"? You're NOT property...


Posted by Torro
Although music has, and always will be an important part of every decade, century... I highly doubt that Nicki Minaj and Lil' Wayne are among the top 5 reasons that people are getting divorced. Only an idiot would live his life by the standards of modern rap music, even if he likes it. People mentioned above might make shit "music" but come on. Music plays a part in the whole package of this modern society, but people are not getting divorced because of music, it's mostly teens that look up to mainstreem rap stars, and teens are not getting married (usually). I agree with rockyroadicecream, newer generations are becoming spoiled little brats, and having an easy way out (simply getting a divorce), might just be making things worse. People are not trying hard enough, no one believes in true love anymore, there are "plenty of fish in the sea", didn't work out, oh well, let's move on. It sucks. Only lying & cheating (from any side) is unforgivable, imo. If some people are willing to give it a shot even after that, good for them.

Posted by starloverPosted by DMVPosted by starlover
Women have become more empowered
Men have become emasculated
sadly 😢
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Posted by Nights22
I think it comes down to respect.
My grandparents respected each other. Hence why there were married for almost 50 years.
My barber and her husband respect each other. They have been married for almost 30 years. They probably have the most true love I have ever seen in a couple. I wish I knew their signs.
Luckily a lot of my family have had long marriages and the one thing I see most is respect.
But now days the sexes do not respect each other.
Many men damn sure don't respect women and many women don't respect anything.
Hence the conundrum.
Posted by Purr
Oh FFS, the whole "poor men" attitude makes me want to kick puppies.click to expand

Posted by rockyroadicecream
It's no coincidence that depression was rampant amongst housewives before the women's movement in the 60s.



Posted by Pecheresse
Consumerism.



Posted by Pecheresse
Marriages that lasted a whole life only worked because -at the time -most people were usually dead by 30.

Posted by dofaccPosted by Pecheresse
Marriages that lasted a whole life only worked because -at the time -most people were usually dead by 30.
Here is a lot of the reason for this discussion. A marriage the lasted 20 years was quite novel for most of the human experience. One or both partners would be dead before that 20 year lapse. Most likely it would have been her dying, and dying in child birth.
It has also been widely argued that women of today reflect the status of women before agriculture. It was the shift to agriculture that made women and children property. It has taken 10,000 years, but women are once again reasserting their "natural" role. Men are/were sperm donors, killers of large herbivores, and expendable. Women give birth, and tie the community together. It was these activities that had made women all together much more valuable to the community then men.
Women simply do not need men the same way that men need women. Let's be honest here folks, this is not a novel insight from me. That Western Society has not prevented women from regaining their independence is pretty novel, though.click to expand

Posted by ReallyNiceAriesPersonPosted by dofaccPosted by Pecheresse
Marriages that lasted a whole life only worked because -at the time -most people were usually dead by 30.
Here is a lot of the reason for this discussion. A marriage the lasted 20 years was quite novel for most of the human experience. One or both partners would be dead before that 20 year lapse. Most likely it would have been her dying, and dying in child birth.
It has also been widely argued that women of today reflect the status of women before agriculture. It was the shift to agriculture that made women and children property. It has taken 10,000 years, but women are once again reasserting their "natural" role. Men are/were sperm donors, killers of large herbivores, and expendable. Women give birth, and tie the community together. It was these activities that had made women all together much more valuable to the community then men.
Women simply do not need men the same way that men need women. Let's be honest here folks, this is not a novel insight from me. That Western Society has not prevented women from regaining their independence is pretty novel, though.
We may not NEED you, but we love you and want you and like to wake you up in the middle of the night by giving you a head
butt.
And what could be better than that—————
Y'all are nuts.click to expand
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Couples aren't together for nearly as long (like our grandparents/parents)
There's more single mothers now than ever before
The divorce rate is at an all time high
Matter of fact, the rate at which people are even getting married has drastically decreased in the last 10 years
These are statistically proven facts. What's truly debatable is WHY this seems to be so
Our generation seems to have a completely different definition and morale of love, marriage & committment
So what went wrong?
Are there any definitions of love, mentalities about committment/marriage/love that you saw/experienced back then but no longer see as much anymore? If so, why do you think that is?
WHAT CHANGED?!
Have men primarily changed? Women primarily changed? Media? Lowered standards as a generation? Too high of standards as a generation?
Talk to me