What women want...

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Ok I've been reading some very warped views of what women want from some of the guys on this board. Just confused about where these views have came from— I know that I want none of the things that we apparently all want. I have more than enough money to look after myself and my partner if necessary so job, status and money are things at the very bottom of the list of what I want or need from a relationship.

So girlies what do you want/need?
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Granted, there ARE some women out here who are blood-sucking gold diggers, BUT the majority of us:

1. YES, want a man who is atleast financially stable. It's NOT about how much money he has in his wallet. It's about how well he MANAGES/SAVES that money that we really care about b/c how well or not he does that will affect the relationship. I could care less if he only makes $ 13,000/yearly AS LONG AS he knows how to manage that 13 grand. If a man expects for his woman to be just as financially responsible, I don't see what's the problem in a woman expecting the same in return.

2. YES, want a man who is faithful, BUT we moreso want a man who has integrity altogether. Being honest/faithful to me is great, BUT it's important that he's ALSO just as honest & has integrity in other situations & with OTHER people in his life too. What good would it be for my man to be faithful to me but yet be a liar/bad person to everyone else?! I don't want to be the only person thinking my man is a "good man." There's more to integrity & being loyal/faithful than just whether or not that person cheats on you or not. There are 1 million OTHER ways to betray someone other than cheating on them. With integrity comes all OTHER good traits that are important.

3. YES, want a man who will respect us, BUT more importantly, we want a man who can respect & cherish all the OTHER people in his life too. We don't want to be the only person in his life thinkiing he's a good man. We want HIS MOTHER to be proud of him too. We want his FRIENDS to consider him respectful too. We want his BOSS to consider him respectful too. We want his enemies/associates to think he's a good person too. What good is it for a man to spoil me in respect/affection if he's completely the opposite towards others who are just as important to him?!

4. We want dedication & realisticness. We want a man who understands AND accepts that most women will NOT & CANNOT be everything that he needs NOR can the average woman fulfill 100% of his needs. We want a man with self-control/discipline & who knows how to be grateful for the "80% " woman that he's got. We want a man who doesn't consider giving up or betraying us as the 1st resort. We want men who have realistic expecations of us AND who can give the same to us that they'd want us to give to them. None of that 51/49 stuff.
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5. We want men who are emotionally secure BEFORE they try to approach us. Not the men who have alot of baggage or bad intentions but yet are the very 1st ones always trying to date or "get with" someone. We want a man who knows what he wants BEFORE he approaches us so that our time won't be wasted. There's nothing WORSE than spending half of the relationship dealing with incompatibilities or old baggage vs. actually just having the damn relationship & enjoying it. We don't want to clean up your baggage or compete with all the women who have hurt you. Sometimes we TRY to "fix" you, BUT deep down, we hate it b/c it's emotionally draining & takes the fun out of relationships & what they're all about. We want a man that we don't have to CHANGE or mold just to feel peaceful & like we're lucky. We want a man whose ONLY ready to approach us when he's at his BEST so that the BEST is what we'll hopefully START OUT getting.

6. We want a man who listens, not thinks of what he's going to say next while we're talking. We want a man who understands that women tick differently than men just like they wish we'd understand how different the male species is. We want a man who is fully committed & devoted to giving his all to make something work since tough times/rough patches are GUARANTEED to come eventually. We're not asking for 1 million bucks. No we're asking for a man who doesn't go OUTSIDE of the relationship to get his needs/fantasies fullfilled all b/c times get a little tough sometimes. Women like having that "ride or die" too!

7. We want a man with GOALS! It's not so much about how much money he makes or what kind of job he has. We want a man who is driven & who makes strides to go out there & get what he wants b/c it's no secret that the people who actually live life to the fullest tend to be more happier. We don't want men who sit around feeling sorry for themselves and/or who make excuses for why they CAN'T do something. We want men who feel good about themselves & that's always possible when a man is allowed the opportunity to provide & protect. When he feels like a "man" & good about himself, it's only inevitable that he'll be more likely to cherish the strong woman by his side that was supporting/rooting him on all along.

8. We want men who know the REAL meaning of "Manhood." We want men who DON'T cower to peer pressure or to what society thinks "men oughta say/do." We want men who don't mind a challenge & who don't working for the woman he wants.
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Unfortunately, what we want isn't always what we need.

QLibra: I concur about wanting a closet full of shoes. In fact, I want an endless, lifetime supply! Also, a good dick is a must have accessory that can be used for any and every occasion. A good one never goes out of style !

I can't honestly answer the question. As I get older I just keep discovering more and more about what I want and need in relationships. That's because I keep changing therefore my needs/wants change as well. What I wanted/needed when I was in my early 20's is not necessarily what I want/need now that I'm pushing 30.

I guess what remains constant is that I need good loving, affection, some attention, good conversation, mutual respect, loyalty, appreciation, communication, humor, friendship, dependability, reciprocity, and consistency.
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That all sounds well and good, but I don't buy it.

I can't explain why it doesn't work but I've seen it time and time again. That guy will lose. PERIOD.



the brawny woodsman?? He's been winning for quite some time now...
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Okay, lemme bust this one down. I want...

HONESTY
INTEGRITY
SOMEONE REAL
GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR
A LOVER
A FRIEND
A PLAYMATE
FILTHY MINDED
INTELLIGENT

And that about covers the waterfront. I could give a shit less about his money, respects me, his family, whatever form of worship he sees fit to employ, and just is perfectly comfortable with himself.

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That all sounds well and good, but I don't buy it.

I can't explain why it doesn't work but I've seen it time and time again. That guy will lose. PERIOD.



Well, you left out 1 crucial point. The only guys who will lose are the 1s who are doing those things for the WRONG women. There are some messed up women out here who DON'T have their priorities straight nor are they a good catch. Women walk around here claiming that good men are the only hard thing to find. Pst, Good women are just as hard to find. The RIGHT woman won't knock a man for all the RIGHT things. Only the WRONG ones will. All women may secretely WANT the same things BUT that doesn't mean that all women will chase after/hold onto the RIGHT things. There's a difference. Hell some men want a "classy" woman to take home to mama, BUT yet they're conveinantly only & always paying attention to the women with the least amount of clothing on. It doesn't mean that he doesn't eventually want the "wifey type," BUT it atleast means that as of right NOW, his eyes aren't set on those kinds of women. Things can change though.

There's a diff. b/w what women PREFER vs. what they absolutely feel are deal breakers. Yes good kong is a PLUS, BUT trust me, there are plenty of women out here who are just as satisfied with a man whose not all that in the bedroom AS LONG AS he compensates in other areas. Plenty of women don't mind teaching a man sexual tricks, as long as he's willing/open to it.

Not all men chase after the shortest skirts or are cheaters/dogs. They ALL claim that at the end of the day, they want a "good one," yet that doesn't appear to be so if they're constantly chasing after the wrong 1s and/or betraying the RIGHT ones. Looking around, men secretely want a "lady" but they might chase "tramps." Doesn't mean that a real lady isn't what they ultimately want. Just means that 1. They are so shallow they wouldn't know a good 1 if she was standing on his face and/or 2. They don't feel they deserve such a good thing yet b/c THEY themselves are not the best men they can be yet. So in that case, let the dogs have the tramps! The good men/women will be waiting (if not too damaged) when who/what they want is FINALLY man/woman enough for the REAL thing
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It's all about finding someone who knows what they want AND who can show appreciation for those very things.

Sure a "nice guy" who spoils a woman with lots of gifts/money might finish last, BUT that's b/c him doing so doesn't proove that he's a provider. A man lending his wallet just shows that he has $ & that he uses it. Doesn't mean that he uses it wisely or that he can pay bills the same way he can pay for a woman's pedicure. How a man manages/saves his money is far way sexier than just the dollar amount in his wallet. The guy who has nice things b/c he made financially responsible decisions has a HIGHER chance of not finishing last.

Sure the guy who doesn't cheat or treat his woman like crap might finish last, BUT it's not him being faithful/respectful that makes him lose. It's the woman he's with who doesn't have her priorities straight & who lacks self esteem that is the reason he might lose.

Hell EVERYBODY claims they want honesty, loyalty, devotion, etc, BUT NOT EVERYBODY is actually willing to give those things NOR is everybody willing to hold onto/appreciate those things once received/given. There IS a difference. It's about finding the RIGHT person who not only talks a big game about all the good qualities they want in someone; you gotta find the person who actually PROVES that they appreciate someone who is honest, faithful, loyal, etc. And she'll prove it by NOT making the 1 guy who actually treated her right, finish last.

Trust me, there are PLENTY of women AND men who capitalize on a good thing. Some people just have to make alot of bad decisions & experience alot of what they DON'T want/DON'T deserve before they finally start chasing/attracting the very things they DO want/deserve. The kinds of women that make the "nice/good" guys finish last are usually very young and/or haven't been burned enough times. Trust me, every person at some point in life gets to a point when they don't have a choice but to grow up & start appreciating/entertaining what actually matters/counts. Problem is, some people reach that "point" quicker than others. And whether or not they ever reach that point can determine whether or not they are considered "good" to/for someone else
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That all sounds well and good, but I don't buy it.

I can't explain why it doesn't work but I've seen it time and time again. That guy will lose. PERIOD.



Just wondering wat it is about that guy that makes you think he will lose? Basically what do YOU think women want/need?
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Maybe it's just a bad day for me to be responding. I wrote a response but it was way too bitter for me. That guy shouldn't lose, he just does. Krysrenee is right, it's more because he is with the wrong chic (the same thing with good girls getting torn up all the time with jerk guys) than it is about faults within himself. The problem that I keep seeing is that it always seems to be one good one and one bad one.

The good guys get wrapped up with psycho bitches and the good gals keep falling for some asshole. Yeah see, I am way too pessimistic today when I talk about this. It's not my normal hopeless romantic, it'll work out, kind of mentality.
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That all sounds well and good, but I don't buy it.

I can't explain why it doesn't work but I've seen it time and time again. That guy will lose. PERIOD.



Just wondering wat it is about that guy that makes you think he will lose? Basically what do YOU think women want/need?



Maybe it's just a bad day for me to be responding. I wrote a response but it was way too bitter for me. That guy shouldn't lose, he just does. Krysrenee is right, it's more because he is with the wrong chic (the same thing with good girls getting torn up all the time with jerk guys) than it is about faults within himself. The problem that I keep seeing is that it always seems to be one good one and one bad one.

The good guys get wrapped up with psycho bitches and the good gals keep falling for some asshole. Yeah see, I am way too pessimistic today when I talk about this. It's not my normal hopeless romantic, it'll work out, kind of mentality.
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Yes unfortunately it does seem that the bad girls seem to snap up the nice guys, mess them up and then that guy turns bad and vice versa. But yeah there is a lot of truth to what Krys said in that people need to find the right people. Also a lot of "bad" people are very good at putting on the "good" act to get what they want.
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Yes unfortunately it does seem that the bad girls seem to snap up the nice guys, mess them up and then that guy turns bad and vice versa.



I have had friends do this in recent years, hell in the last few months I've considered it. I have always been one of the "good guys", honest, faithful, funny, romantic, yada yada yada and the friends that I've kept have been the same. A couple guys have turned into male whores and just plain jerks, while I don't like the way they are now I cannot deny it's effectiveness.
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That all sounds well and good, but I don't buy it.

I can't explain why it doesn't work but I've seen it time and time again. That guy will lose. PERIOD.



Just wondering wat it is about that guy that makes you think he will lose? Basically what do YOU think women want/need?



Maybe it's just a bad day for me to be responding. I wrote a response but it was way too bitter for me. That guy shouldn't lose, he just does. Krysrenee is right, it's more because he is with the wrong chic (the same thing with good girls getting torn up all the time with jerk guys) than it is about faults within himself. The problem that I keep seeing is that it always seems to be one good one and one bad one.

The good guys get wrapped up with psycho bitches and the good gals keep falling for some asshole. Yeah see, I am way too pessimistic today when I talk about this. It's not my normal hopeless romantic, it'll work out, kind of mentality.
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yeah, i'm gonna back the idea that those guys are choosing the wrong girls to lavish all their kindness on.

i used to have a lot of friends who gave me crap for being involved with shitty guys. but nice guys didn't like me. it was jerks or celibacy, and i spent extended periods of time celibate. but sometimes you just get horny and lonely, and you take what you can get. i don't call those people friends anymore, though.

nice guys don't like nice girls. we aren't exciting enough. we don't throw ourselves at them. they don't realize that girls who do that do it for everybody. they don't realize that she's gonna cheat and leave them when someone else shows up. they just think "wow, she's coming on really strong. she must like me". meanwhile, the nice girl who really does like them is sitting around watching the guy she likes so much making out with some coked out skank, and decides maybe she will go out with that asshole who keeps bugging her, because at least he notices she exists.
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And it SHOULD Libra. Too many have that "Well if it isn't working out, I'm outta here" mentality. That's BULL. A relationship takes a lot of damned work. Too much Disney Princess horse puckey out there my friend. It's not all candles and rose petals, it's arguing and still coming out at the end of the day with someone at your back.



Amen. This is what I posted in the Cap board yesterday. I think it's relevant to what you are saying VB...

The key in those 10/15 year marriages is COMMITMENT. Love takes work. All these damn fairy tales and romantic movies where they "fall" in love and it's all magical is complete and utter bullshit. People "fall" from trees. People trip and "fall". That "fall in love" thing is unrealistic....you'll "fall" right out of the relationship. Emotions are fickle and that's what that "falling in love" feeling is based on.

Love takes work. Love is a decision. People don't want to make the effort in relationships. No one wants to commit to anything. It's all about convenience and comfort now. Nothing is this world that is worth it is easy and what you see if those long lasting marriages are two people WILLING to give their all for that relationship. To make it work. To be happy. To grow old together, etc etc.

Sidenote: I *HATE* when hearing marriage being talked about negatively like if it's a trap or a prison. "Ugh marriage, what a way to emasculate a man"...."ugh marriage, say goodbye to your sex life" ......dude STFU!
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No offense Krys, but I find this opinion to be kind of uninformed -

"Not all men chase after the shortest skirts or are cheaters/dogs. They ALL claim that at the end of the day, they want a "good one," yet that doesn't appear to be so if they're constantly chasing after the wrong 1s and/or betraying the RIGHT ones."

While I do agree with you, there are men that betray good women, there's just a slight inaccuracy. Not a criticism by any means, Krys you just havent dated women being a straight person.

For a long time now, there's a myth going around in pop culture that a hot girl's bi--y and not relationship material, while the cute girl next door is nice and the latter. Its not that black and white.

Ive seen cute girl next door types be just as arrogant and stuck on themselves as hot ones. In reality, cute girls are likely to be approached more than hot ones. Because men just assume there's a better chance dating the cute girl rather than the hot one. And men also think because a girl looks cute, that automatically she's relationship material.

Keep in mind this comes from my experiences being friends with and dating women. Anyway the cute girl will mistake the attention she's been getting from guys. And thinks it because she's hot and not because of just looking like a nice girl. So she lets it go to her head and starts becoming arrogant. And sets standards to only men who are studly looking in her eyes and have some type of social status - older guy, athlete, musician, etc.

I always went after the cute girls never hot ones back in high school and my first year of college. And what I just described in the paragraph above always happened with girls I was friends with or chased. The first girl I ever dated was hot. I never chased or approached her either. At that point, I was only trying to get cute, dateable girls. Never thought I would be her type at all. But, she approached and asked me out.

Ever since then, it was always easier to get a date with the bombshell types for me than the cute ones. (BTW Im not saying all cute girls are like this, but a decent amount of them are though) Ive also seen cute girls cheat on their boyfriends. Even the ones who have average looking ones.

It was either Oxygen, Lifetime, some network I watched way back conducted a study which said girls that were considered more likely to cheat than really beautiful ones. Finished Next post...
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To clairify what I said given the short length you can post on here. Basically, the study said Cute girls were more prone to infidelity than hot ones.

Their reasoning was beautiful women attract a decent amount of goodlooking men to date/sleep with. Whereas cute girls dont always necessarily attract good looking guys consistantly.

And the cute girls who never have been with a studly guy, are more likely to cheat on their significant others if he showed interest. Whereas the beautiful women were less likely to because of already having that experience with that type of guy. This is basically what the study said.

I feel the study is somewhat accurate. Ive had my share of cute girls with boyfriends be interested in me. Dont get me wrong, there are a lot of beautiful women who cheat regularly. But cute girls are guilty of this just as equally.

Bottom line is we shouldnt generalize people. While they're a lot who are, not all beautiful women are stuck up and cheaters. Just as not all cute girls are nice and faithful.

If you disgree with that, follow the advice Ive said in the past. Which is: a) experiment and date another woman b) watch either The Real L Word or fictional L Word to get an idea of what women are like when it comes to dating and relationships. Bottom line, its not all black and white.