
RealTalk
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Posted by Fire-Water
When you return a phone call or text, i believe it is a common courtesy which is ok. When you try to form an attachment through any of these forms of communication that can give one person the advantage or another. I just try to be considerate of the of other person and their time when initiating communication.



Posted by Fire-Water
Its polite to return all communication, you should try to treat people the way you want to be treated. It will work until the guy figures out that she is doing it. I wouldnt want to start any relationship off like that, playing games and such.

Posted by Theultra79
Yea. It's playing games but men play games with us ALL the time. They're constantly testing us to see what kind of a girl we are. Or pushing our buttons on purpose to see what our boundaries are.
Will we remain in control or will we lose it?
Will we act jealous if he tells us about that co-worker that flirts with him?
Will she be at home pacing and working herself into a tizzy if I stay out all night?
All to boost their egos and see how much power they have over us. I have several male best friends and I get the inside scoop ALL the time. My male BFF as a joke once texted a girl and then
Says, watch how quick this thirsty chick texts me back. She texted back IMMEDIATELY. He laughed at her! she really liked him. it was sad!
I don't care what anybody says. Men respond better to a woman they view as a challenge. They work harder in the dating process, during the relationship, and they're not so quick to take you for granted. It is in them to hunt. So I say, don't make it so easy. Be a prize to be won.
I don't care if I don't have nothing to be doing except responding to a call or a text (which is really rare tbh), I will not be QuickDraw with the phone. EVER.
She mentioned not responding at all at times, not being quick to respond. We all are at times during the course of the day to reply but when you do you should as a matter of common courtesy.

Posted by Theultra79
Yea. It's playing games but men play games with us ALL the time. They're constantly testing us to see what kind of a girl we are. Or pushing our buttons on purpose to see what our boundaries are.
Will we remain in control or will we lose it?
Will we act jealous if he tells us about that co-worker that flirts with him?
Will she be at home pacing and working herself into a tizzy if I stay out all night?
All to boost their egos and see how much power they have over us. I have several male best friends and I get the inside scoop ALL the time. My male BFF as a joke once texted a girl and then
Says, watch how quick this thirsty chick texts me back. She texted back IMMEDIATELY. He laughed at her! she really liked him. it was sad!
I don't care what anybody says. Men respond better to a woman they view as a challenge. They work harder in the dating process, during the relationship, and they're not so quick to take you for granted. It is in them to hunt. So I say, don't make it so easy. Be a prize to be won.
I don't care if I don't have nothing to be doing except responding to a call or a text (which is really rare tbh), I will not be QuickDraw with the phone. EVER.


Posted by exoskeleton
yep, holding off contact intentionally is game playing. sure it can make the other person anxious and keep them intrigued, but it can also make them wonder if you're really all that interested. that's just counterproductive and disrespectful i think.
if i don't respond right away, i'm busy or thinking. simple.

Posted by Theultra79Posted by RealTalk
@Theultra, I do agree with what you're saying, but I think when someone does initiate contact alot & the individual fancies this person, yes...you should return their call out of courtesy if you're really interested in getting to know the person & if you like them. Because again, if someone doesn't returns my calls 50% of the time, I'm throwing in the towel & I'm saying to hell with you, so I assume if I'm reciprocating that behavior onto them, they will most likely think I'm not interested when really, I am & it can backfire.
Typically, if it's a guy I really like, I don't call him barely at all. Lol. I know it's crazy.click to expand

Posted by Theultra79Posted by RealTalkPosted by Theultra79Posted by RealTalk
@Theultra, I do agree with what you're saying, but I think when someone does initiate contact alot & the individual fancies this person, yes...you should return their call out of courtesy if you're really interested in getting to know the person & if you like them. Because again, if someone doesn't returns my calls 50% of the time, I'm throwing in the towel & I'm saying to hell with you, so I assume if I'm reciprocating that behavior onto them, they will most likely think I'm not interested when really, I am & it can backfire.
Typically, if it's a guy I really like, I don't call him barely at all. Lol. I know it's crazy.
I think that's smart. Make him put in more effort for you. Make him work for you. He'll value you more so that makes sense, ESPECIALLY when it's someone you like!! I've done that to a guy I was very much into. I would return his calls/texts but in between I hardly ever called him & he would say to me I never "hit him up", lol.
You know what? Unfortunately, guys don't respond well when they know just how much you like them! They start putting you on the back burner. Some guys get downright disrespectful! It's like they think, ok this ones in the bag. I can put her on the shelf, get back out there and do my thing.
Before you know it, you're wondering what happened. Everything was going so well! Why'd he stop calling?? Been there! Figured it out.
I actually don't think it hurts to not always answer and respond to every single phone call. It keeps there mind where it needs to be. On you.
Sounds petty. It is. If this was some fantasy world we lived in, where people only did what was logical, followed their hearts, and didn't get hurt as a direct result of doing so, then we wouldn't have to do shit like this.
But it's reality. Not fantasy.click to expand


Posted by Theultra79
I think if it's an even exchange then keep it up. I mean...that's the ideal situation. But will it last—

Posted by Theultra79
I think if it's an even exchange then keep it up. I mean...that's the ideal situation. But will it last—

Posted by exoskeletonPosted by RealTalkPosted by exoskeleton
yep, holding off contact intentionally is game playing. sure it can make the other person anxious and keep them intrigued, but it can also make them wonder if you're really all that interested. that's just counterproductive and disrespectful i think.
if i don't respond right away, i'm busy or thinking. simple.
I think it's disrespectful if it's totally ignored. But as I said about the timing, Ultra brought up a significant point about the texting. It is beneficial to not respond right away ALL the time because you DO look thirsty & too eager, but what I was wondering about was by someone responding all of the time (not right away), will she/he still seem eager.
As others stated they believe it to be common courtesy. Also, what about the other party responding right away & or all the time? Wouldn't that just be equal? I think it's just an even balance.
i don't really have this problem. if i like someone i respond to them when i can consistently. if i'm not feeling it i don't and/or tell them i'm not interested. i don't have to play hard to get to keep a man wanting me and continue to make the effort.
balance like you said, and an honest give and take is what works. no bullshit.click to expand

Posted by Theultra79
^^^of course that makes sense. But there are some people who ALWAYS drop everything for that other person. They're never too busy for that guy/girl and they never take time just to think before responding to texts or phone calls.
But when someone's honest give is MORE than the other persons honest give, then that person has to learn to pull back a little. This is called game playing because its not what the person would honestly do! But If they don't, they will get played with every time. At this point, the communicatiion is unequal. A lot of people are over enthusiastic in the beginning of a relationship.
If intentionally ignoring calls or texts for a minute to train themselves not to do too much and keep themselves from being perceived as over-eager and desperate, is playing games, I don't have anything against it.
My bf plays games with me sometimes. I know when he's doing it. And I understand the motivation behind why he's doing it.
I would never cut him off because of it. I just try to openly communicate my feelings to him consistently so he doesn't feel the need to resort to those things.
Over time as he's gotten more secure, it has all but disappeared.
The older you get, the more relationship experiences you have. Some have been painful. One begins to feel a need to protect themselves. They begin to test people and to hold back.
When men do it, it's called being smart.
When women do it, it's called game playing.
When all people do it, it's called human nature.

Posted by 25thDecanPosted by RealTalk
I was having a conversation with a friend, & we were just discussing some common mistakes people make when dating. We covered contact, availability, effort etc., you know, the basics. And we lingered on contact for a while. Who should call who first & so on.
Well, I always believed the man should chase (sorry guys), but that's just natural for a man. He's a hunter. He enjoys the chase. And I also believe the man should put forth more effort into the relationship as well such as initiating calls/texts, dates. So what I'm wondering is, when a woman returns all a guy's calls/texts, can that be considered a fatal error? Not saying returning them right away. Maybe a day or 2/hours later, do you think he'll still think the woman is easy?
If the guy is making ALL intiative/effort, most men I know including myself will bounce quickly, no reason given.
If texts calls are ignored and returned a day, or just later. It's cool unless it was "hey, let's a get a bite to eat at 7" and she calls back the next day like nothing happened. In this case, she could NEVER be considered relationship material. She will likely get played eventually for a roll in the hay..or..by the best of manipulators: to attract other women at hangouts he chooses(because he'll double back alone). IJS...
Look..there are options in this type of game playing:
1. That you will lose to a better game player
2. That you will beat a better a worse game player.
Smart ones avoid the game altogether, count it a rejection and move on. Dumb ones chase longer and hang around. Ruthless ones frustrate her, hang around, sleep with her and twist things to convince her he's fullofit and not worth her time but worth her wondering how she was only a fwb once or twice.
Choose wisely...
Note: hunters don't chase the squirrel that are still fleeing after one or two has been shot. This is a common misconception of "hunter mindset". You want to shoot/kill a deer or a squirrel, not chase the squirrel for the sake of shooting. There MUST be an "end". If you like being chased and you're never out to get caught by a worthy hunter then perhaps you're the squirrel who always gets away but never gets it in the end.....click to expand

Posted by Theultra79
^^^of course that makes sense. But there are some people who ALWAYS drop everything for that other person. They're never too busy for that guy/girl and they never take time just to think before responding to texts or phone calls.
But when someone's honest give is MORE than the other persons honest give, then that person has to learn to pull back a little. This is called game playing because its not what the person would honestly do! But If they don't, they will get played with every time. At this point, the communicatiion is unequal. A lot of people are over enthusiastic in the beginning of a relationship.
If intentionally ignoring calls or texts for a minute to train themselves not to do too much and keep themselves from being perceived as over-eager and desperate, is playing games, I don't have anything against it.
My bf plays games with me sometimes. I know when he's doing it. And I understand the motivation behind why he's doing it.
I would never cut him off because of it. I just try to openly communicate my feelings to him consistently so he doesn't feel the need to resort to those things.
Over time as he's gotten more secure, it has all but disappeared.
The older you get, the more relationship experiences you have. Some have been painful. One begins to feel a need to protect themselves. They begin to test people and to hold back.
When men do it, it's called being smart.
When women do it, it's called game playing.
When all people do it, it's called human nature.

Posted by 25thDecanPosted by RealTalk
I was having a conversation with a friend, & we were just discussing some common mistakes people make when dating. We covered contact, availability, effort etc., you know, the basics. And we lingered on contact for a while. Who should call who first & so on.
Well, I always believed the man should chase (sorry guys), but that's just natural for a man. He's a hunter. He enjoys the chase. And I also believe the man should put forth more effort into the relationship as well such as initiating calls/texts, dates. So what I'm wondering is, when a woman returns all a guy's calls/texts, can that be considered a fatal error? Not saying returning them right away. Maybe a day or 2/hours later, do you think he'll still think the woman is easy?
If the guy is making ALL intiative/effort, most men I know including myself will bounce quickly, no reason given.
click to expand


Posted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.

Posted by Theultra79
Yea. It's playing games but men play games with us ALL the time. They're constantly testing us to see what kind of a girl we are. Or pushing our buttons on purpose to see what our boundaries are.
Will we remain in control or will we lose it?
Will we act jealous if he tells us about that co-worker that flirts with him?
Will she be at home pacing and working herself into a tizzy if I stay out all night?
All to boost their egos and see how much power they have over us. I have several male best friends and I get the inside scoop ALL the time. My male BFF as a joke once texted a girl and then
Says, watch how quick this thirsty chick texts me back. She texted back IMMEDIATELY. He laughed at her! she really liked him. it was sad!
I don't care what anybody says. Men respond better to a woman they view as a challenge. They work harder in the dating process, during the relationship, and they're not so quick to take you for granted. It is in them to hunt. So I say, don't make it so easy. Be a prize to be won.
I don't care if I don't have nothing to be doing except responding to a call or a text (which is really rare tbh), I will not be QuickDraw with the phone. EVER.

Posted by 25thDecanPosted by RealTalk
I was having a conversation with a friend, & we were just discussing some common mistakes people make when dating. We covered contact, availability, effort etc., you know, the basics. And we lingered on contact for a while. Who should call who first & so on.
Well, I always believed the man should chase (sorry guys), but that's just natural for a man. He's a hunter. He enjoys the chase. And I also believe the man should put forth more effort into the relationship as well such as initiating calls/texts, dates. So what I'm wondering is, when a woman returns all a guy's calls/texts, can that be considered a fatal error? Not saying returning them right away. Maybe a day or 2/hours later, do you think he'll still think the woman is easy?
If the guy is making ALL intiative/effort, most men I know including myself will bounce quickly, no reason given.
If texts calls are ignored and returned a day, or just later. It's cool unless it was "hey, let's a get a bite to eat at 7" and she calls back the next day like nothing happened. In this case, she could NEVER be considered relationship material. She will likely get played eventually for a roll in the hay..or..by the best of manipulators: to attract other women at hangouts he chooses(because he'll double back alone). IJS...
Look..there are options in this type of game playing:
1. That you will lose to a better game player
2. That you will beat a better a worse game player.
Smart ones avoid the game altogether, count it a rejection and move on. Dumb ones chase longer and hang around. Ruthless ones frustrate her, hang around, sleep with her and twist things to convince her he's fullofit and not worth her time but worth her wondering how she was only a fwb once or twice.
Choose wisely...
Note: hunters don't chase the squirrel that are still fleeing after one or two has been shot. This is a common misconception of "hunter mindset". You want to shoot/kill a deer or a squirrel, not chase the squirrel for the sake of shooting. There MUST be an "end". If you like being chased and you're never out to get caught by a worthy hunter then perhaps you're the squirrel who always gets away but never gets it in the end.....click to expand

Posted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.

Posted by Fire-WaterPosted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.
Quit dealing with game players, dont go over to the dark side!!!click to expand

Posted by beautifulsoul74Posted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.
But you can only strategize so much before you come to the logical conclusion that it's others that need to change and not play games. It's love not war or an arms race. It's like the Bugs Bunny cartoon where each side gets a bigger gun until they pile up off the freakin planet and the world explodes lolclick to expand

Posted by RealTalkPosted by beautifulsoul74Posted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.
But you can only strategize so much before you come to the logical conclusion that it's others that need to change and not play games. It's love not war or an arms race. It's like the Bugs Bunny cartoon where each side gets a bigger gun until they pile up off the freakin planet and the world explodes lol
And Bugs Bunny outsmarted their asses every time because he played his cards right. 😉click to expand

Posted by 25thDecanPosted by RealTalkPosted by beautifulsoul74Posted by RealTalk
I mean come on people, some game playing is necessary. When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here? YOU. Self evaluation comes to play then, & you need to figure out & identify exactly what keeps going wrong.
Ergo, you need to switch up your GAME PLAN because what you were doing before totally wasn't working at all. When you do something differently, you end up with different results. If you see yourself spinning around this web called insanity, yup, it's time to self analyze.
But you can only strategize so much before you come to the logical conclusion that it's others that need to change and not play games. It's love not war or an arms race. It's like the Bugs Bunny cartoon where each side gets a bigger gun until they pile up off the freakin planet and the world explodes lol
And Bugs Bunny outsmarted their asses every time because he played his cards right. 😉
Today WAS Sunday. Lots of football games. I find it violation of man law that you:
A) have yet to acknowledge today is Sunday
B) have yet to bring some guy a beer BEFORE you speak
C) have no mammaries exposed or presented and
D) haven't submitted to what any man has said thus far.
*writes in book
Plenty chicks on dxp need a spanking....click to expand

Posted by 25thDecan
When you've dated several people & keep getting negative results from it, what's the common denominator here?-
1. Your environment
2. The men you choose to "play" WITH...ijs....what kind of men do you play FOR? AGAINST? WITH?
Look....if his collar is turned up like the dude on a Family Guy cutaway gag then it's likely you're helplessly drawn to men who know how to game...YOU.
No finger pointing from me though. I'm not saying you're right or wrong...but really: is it the game or the board pieces that getcha?
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Well, I always believed the man should chase (sorry guys), but that's just natural for a man. He's a hunter. He enjoys the chase. And I also believe the man should put forth more effort into the relationship as well such as initiating calls/texts, dates. So what I'm wondering is, when a woman returns all a guy's calls/texts, can that be considered a fatal error? Not saying returning them right away. Maybe a day or 2/hours later, do you think he'll still think the woman is easy?