Do you know Jesus Christ? (Page 2)

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As someone who has read the bible. And someone who has watched many idiots try to interpret it, it all makes me laugh

Astrology itself is not condemned. Worshipping others "gods" is condemned and letting other things be your God is condemned

Like people who worshipped the moon, and the sun and gave the titles of a god and claimed them to have powers above the one true God this is what's condemned not astrology itself

There were many times where kings looked to astrologers for answers that could not be given. However one of Gods chosen were able to give them the answers and solutions they were looking for.

All this says is thay your astrologers are not above me and no matter what they know they do not know more than me .

So this probes a question to the children of Israel why look to others for answers when you have me ?

I also directly recall only one gay incident in the bible (to my knowledge ) that started an outrage and that was when they tried to sleep with the angels who visted lot in sodom

But i will look for other instances

In that case they surely deserved to die

That wasn't gay that was a clear example of perversion . Because they wanted to rape them

Another thing that irritates me is when people use the eating of pork this is under the old law for the JEWS and not gentiles

Anyways i can go on and on about this subject

But i really wish people wouldn't talk about things they don't really know about.

It wasn't angels, it was a man visiting. The owner of his house cast his daughter out to be gang-raped rather than have his guest be offended by what the crowd was shouting.

Perfect example of how women are lower class than men according to god, his followers and his doctrine.

Yes i did find that wrong

But no they were not regular men they were two angels disguised as men

And during those days there were rules about harming a guest under someones roof.

My point is he didn't KNOW that they were angels. He thought they were men. So two strangers are more important than his own flesh and blood because women are lower than cattle in the old testement.



Genisis 19:1

"The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom.

When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed himself with his face to the earth and said, "My lords, please turn aside to your servant's house and spend the night and was your feet. Then you may rise up early and go on your way."

They said, "No, we will spend the night in the town square."

But he pressed them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house. And he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them."

Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly, .Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof".

Still it is known to us that they were angels.

And he followed the rules and customs of the time period and which he lived.

Im not going to get into the women's rights things because that is a whole different topic

The topic here is what happened to perverse men in sodom

There were no men as beautiful as they that entered the city thats your first clue right there

So to me it matters not that these men died for being perverse and trying to rape other men

This shows how evil the people in the city were becoming.

No i do not condone the offering of his virgin daughters but this just shows how determined they were to rape the angels.

You sound like a typical new age christian. Picking and choosing what you want to believe and disregarding the rest. The problem with excusing away the icky parts of the bible that don't fit with your peace and love jesus is that this GOD is one and the same.

John 1:14

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Angry, murderous, genocidal old testament god is still there.



The irony of this particular story is that its meant to justify the genocide of the city of Sodom and how god in his great and wonderful mercy saved those that were innocent from this terrible fate. Except was Lot an innocent? Lets see...he offered up his two daughters to be preyed upon by rapist. That sounds pretty evil to me right there.

And those two girls, virginal and truly innocent where gang raped. Old testament irony ftw.

Woooh that verse you just spitted from john is too deep for you too understand in the natural mind.

You can not spit bible verses without understanding .

Its not possible and its a never ending story of back and forth

It is what it is a war with the flesh.

And i can tell you're reading a different translation which again is a whole other problem!!

Oh so now I can't understand? Girl please. You don't like what I'm saying so you try and discredit me. i see you.

Unless you can read classical Hebrew, what the original text was written in, only then can you talk about the translation being incorrect.

Also this is what we mean we cant talk about people picking and choosing passages when non believers do the same thing

How many passages came before 14—

Because to me you skipped right over the important part the explanation to what you quoted

And what you're still missing is you can not comprehend the word with the natural mind and that is your downfall right there

Trust me I've been there done that

Ohh also im not mad at all because i know I'm getting my knowledge i need to get understanding

Something you still dont know about

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Yeah... I don't know anything. And yet I'm the only one quoting verses from your religious text.

Seems like I know more about your religion than you do. Answer me back with some verses...I welcome it.

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As someone who has read the bible. And someone who has watched many idiots try to interpret it, it all makes me laugh

Astrology itself is not condemned. Worshipping others "gods" is condemned and letting other things be your God is condemned

Like people who worshipped the moon, and the sun and gave the titles of a god and claimed them to have powers above the one true God this is what's condemned not astrology itself

There were many times where kings looked to astrologers for answers that could not be given. However one of Gods chosen were able to give them the answers and solutions they were looking for.

All this says is thay your astrologers are not above me and no matter what they know they do not know more than me .

So this probes a question to the children of Israel why look to others for answers when you have me ?

I also directly recall only one gay incident in the bible (to my knowledge ) that started an outrage and that was when they tried to sleep with the angels who visted lot in sodom

But i will look for other instances

In that case they surely deserved to die

That wasn't gay that was a clear example of perversion . Because they wanted to rape them

Another thing that irritates me is when people use the eating of pork this is under the old law for the JEWS and not gentiles

Anyways i can go on and on about this subject

But i really wish people wouldn't talk about things they don't really know about.

It wasn't angels, it was a man visiting. The owner of his house cast his daughter out to be gang-raped rather than have his guest be offended by what the crowd was shouting.

Perfect example of how women are lower class than men according to god, his followers and his doctrine.

Yes i did find that wrong

But no they were not regular men they were two angels disguised as men

And during those days there were rules about harming a guest under someones roof.

My point is he didn't KNOW that they were angels. He thought they were men. So two strangers are more important than his own flesh and blood because women are lower than cattle in the old testement.



Genisis 19:1

"The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom.

When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed himself with his face to the earth and said, "My lords, please turn aside to your servant's house and spend the night and was your feet. Then you may rise up early and go on your way."

They said, "No, we will spend the night in the town square."

But he pressed them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house. And he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them."

Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly, .Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof".

Still it is known to us that they were angels.

And he followed the rules and customs of the time period and which he lived.

Im not going to get into the women's rights things because that is a whole different topic

The topic here is what happened to perverse men in sodom

There were no men as beautiful as they that entered the city thats your first clue right there

So to me it matters not that these men died for being perverse and trying to rape other men

This shows how evil the people in the city were becoming.

No i do not condone the offering of his virgin daughters but this just shows how determined they were to rape the angels.

You sound like a typical new age christian. Picking and choosing what you want to believe and disregarding the rest. The problem with excusing away the icky parts of the bible that don't fit with your peace and love jesus is that this GOD is one and the same.

John 1:14

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Angry, murderous, genocidal old testament god is still there.



The irony of this particular story is that its meant to justify the genocide of the city of Sodom and how god in his great and wonderful mercy saved those that were innocent from this terrible fate. Except was Lot an innocent? Lets see...he offered up his two daughters to be preyed upon by rapist. That sounds pretty evil to me right there.

And those two girls, virginal and truly innocent where gang raped. Old testament irony ftw.

Woooh that verse you just spitted from john is too deep for you too understand in the natural mind.

You can not spit bible verses without understanding .

Its not possible and its a never ending story of back and forth

It is what it is a war with the flesh.

And i can tell you're reading a different translation which again is a whole other problem!!

Oh so now I can't understand? Girl please. You don't like what I'm saying so you try and discredit me. i see you.

Unless you can read classical Hebrew, what the original text was written in, only then can you talk about the translation being incorrect.

Also this is what we mean we cant talk about people picking and choosing passages when non believers do the same thing

How many passages came before 14—

Because to me you skipped right over the important part the explanation to what you quoted

And what you're still missing is you can not comprehend the word with the natural mind and that is your downfall right there

Trust me I've been there done that

Ohh also im not mad at all because i know I'm getting my knowledge i need to get understanding

Something you still dont know about

Yeah... I don't know anything. And yet I'm the only one quoting verses from your religious text.

Seems like I know more about your religion than you do. Answer me back with some verses...I welcome it.

Lol i dont have to put the verses .

You can quote all you want and still not have the understanding!!?

Just because you quote doesnt mean you know

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Your scared, I get it. Stay behind your glass house then.

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How your God really feels about innocents.



Abortion:

Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

Infanticide:

1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.

The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.

Child abuse:

Genesis 22:9 & 10 “And they came to the place which God had told him of and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.” It matters not that god let Abraham get out of murdering Isaac. To put a knife up to your son’s throat is child abuse.

I Kings 3:24-25 “And the king said, Bring me a sword. And they brought a sword before the king. And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other.” This test was of course given to see who the real mother of the child was. Christians view this king as a wise man. I look upon his suggestion with far more revulsion then I give accredit to Susan Smith.

Proverbs 13:24, 19:18, 22:15, 23:13-14 & 29:15 God commands repeatedly that you beat your children.

Matthew 19:29 If you really loved Jesus then he insists that you abandon your wife and children for him. Only that way will he allow you to go to heaven. (That is if you meet his other hefty requirements, don’t slip through the loopholes, and ignore the contradictions.)

Mark 7:9 Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law.

Lol! Again you're picking and choosing especially on the last one

Jesus was calling them out on being hypocritical yet playing like they were better than everyone else because of their religion

So wrong there again!

Stop giving passages when you don't understand the whole thing

And that goes for everything you just quoted

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Problem with that logic is if your going to disregard 70/80+% then what is left?

I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

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Guys...Jesus Christ loves you unless your gay, a person of color, or a woman. Praise him! ?

that's the doctrine of those backward Christians who have not learned yet that only God has the right to judge. those idiots like to preach the gloom and doom in the bible, while trying to act so holy. sheeps clothing all day.

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I'm talking about GOD, it's his word = his judgement.

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Guys...Jesus Christ loves you unless your gay, a person of color, or a woman. Praise him! ?

that's the doctrine of those backward Christians who have not learned yet that only God has the right to judge. those idiots like to preach the gloom and doom in the bible, while trying to act so holy. sheeps clothing all day.

I'm talking about GOD, it's his word = his judgement.

can you say this for sure? man wrote the bible. i'm pretty sure that man's idiotic thoughts try to pose as God's words. man is contradictory and ignorant to his own evil. man wants to enslave. this does not sound like God, no matter how eloquently written.

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In that case god was created by man.

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@Wonderlesswave

How your God really feels about innocents.



Abortion:

Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

Infanticide:

1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.

The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.

Child abuse:

Genesis 22:9 & 10 “And they came to the place which God had told him of and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.” It matters not that god let Abraham get out of murdering Isaac. To put a knife up to your son’s throat is child abuse.

I Kings 3:24-25 “And the king said, Bring me a sword. And they brought a sword before the king. And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other.” This test was of course given to see who the real mother of the child was. Christians view this king as a wise man. I look upon his suggestion with far more revulsion then I give accredit to Susan Smith.

Proverbs 13:24, 19:18, 22:15, 23:13-14 & 29:15 God commands repeatedly that you beat your children.

Matthew 19:29 If you really loved Jesus then he insists that you abandon your wife and children for him. Only that way will he allow you to go to heaven. (That is if you meet his other hefty requirements, don’t slip through the loopholes, and ignore the contradictions.)

Mark 7:9 Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law.

Lol! Again you're picking and choosing especially on the last one

Jesus was calling them out on being hypocritical yet playing like they were better than everyone else because of their religion

So wrong there again!

Stop giving passages when you don't understand the whole thing

And that goes for everything you just quoted

Problem with that logic is if your going to disregard 70/80+% then what is left?

I don't disregard anything lol i just didnt read it all you know why ??

Because i already know what your argument is

"Your God is unfair and just your God is a monster" i read your previous posts i dont need to read every passage that i already knew to understand what your point is .

So again my point is you can read but do you understand outside of your natural mind and the answer is no

I only needed to discredited one of your explanations to make it clear that you don't understand

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I understand. Its easier to bury your head in the sand than have your beliefs challenged.

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Organized religion, blargh. Something created by society, as a means to control and dictate to those of lesser social status on how they should live. No, thanks.

I am Agnostic for a reason. Not because I don't hope for more, but because religion has been perverted and distorted, in my opinion.

anything man made usually is.

The whole thing is man-made including the Bible. It was written by scribes that added things and left others out. The Jesus myth is just a hodgepodge of stories cobbled together from stories that had been circulating the Mediterranean for centuries.. they changed names and ripped off the Egyptians and other cultures. The Moses story isn't original either.

In the 2000's, a council was put together by religious leaders and scholars to find out the validity of Jesus's teachings. Their findings were that 18% of what he did and 16% of what he said could reasonably be somewhat verified. That doesn't even qualify as a failing grade.

This all developed 2000 years ago in the most illiterate, uniformed area of the world at the time. There were vibrant cultures in both India and China as well as other places.

No television preacher has ever read the Bible. Neither has any evangelical politician. Neither has the pope. Neither have I. And neither have you. At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.

About 400 years passed between the writing of the first Christian manuscripts and their compilation into the New Testament. (That’s the same amount of time between the arrival of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower and today.) The first books of the Old Testament were written 1,000 years before that. In other words, some 1,500 years passed between the day the first biblical author put stick to clay and when the books that would become the New Testament.

Back then, writings from one era could be passed to the next only by copying them by hand. While there were professional scribes whose lives were dedicated to this grueling work, they did not start copying the letters and testaments about Jesus’s time until centuries after they were written.

These manuscripts were originally written in Koiné, or “common” Greek, and not all of the amateur copyists spoke the language or were even fully literate. Some copied the script without understanding the words.

None of this mattered for centuries, because Christians were certain God had guided the hand not only of the original writers but also of all those copyists. But in the past 100 years or so, tens of thousands of manuscripts of the New Testament have been discovered, dating back centuries. And what biblical scholars now know is that later versions of the books differ significantly from earlier ones—in fact, even copies from the same time periods differ from each other. “There are more variations among our manuscripts than there are words in the New Testament,” says Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, a groundbreaking biblical scholar and professor at the University of North Carolina who has written many books on the New Testament.

So it's pretty ludicrous to begin with.

yes....that was my point. just made quicker.

And yet you believe in "God." There's probably more evidence of what the Bible purports (scant as it is) than that..the evidence and veracity of a "God" is the exact same as Papa Smurf, Master Splinter, and Yoda being the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost.

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Great spaghetti monster in the sky

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

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There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

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My source was the bible...

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Posted by Chance_12

Posted by MagicMona

Posted by Chance_12

Posted by MagicMona

Posted by nikkistar
Organized religion, blargh. Something created by society, as a means to control and dictate to those of lesser social status on how they should live. No, thanks.

I am Agnostic for a reason. Not because I don't hope for more, but because religion has been perverted and distorted, in my opinion.

anything man made usually is.

The whole thing is man-made including the Bible. It was written by scribes that added things and left others out. The Jesus myth is just a hodgepodge of stories cobbled together from stories that had been circulating the Mediterranean for centuries.. they changed names and ripped off the Egyptians and other cultures. The Moses story isn't original either.

In the 2000's, a council was put together by religious leaders and scholars to find out the validity of Jesus's teachings. Their findings were that 18% of what he did and 16% of what he said could reasonably be somewhat verified. That doesn't even qualify as a failing grade.

This all developed 2000 years ago in the most illiterate, uniformed area of the world at the time. There were vibrant cultures in both India and China as well as other places.

No television preacher has ever read the Bible. Neither has any evangelical politician. Neither has the pope. Neither have I. And neither have you. At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.

About 400 years passed between the writing of the first Christian manuscripts and their compilation into the New Testament. (That’s the same amount of time between the arrival of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower and today.) The first books of the Old Testament were written 1,000 years before that. In other words, some 1,500 years passed between the day the first biblical author put stick to clay and when the books that would become the New Testament.

Back then, writings from one era could be passed to the next only by copying them by hand. While there were professional scribes whose lives were dedicated to this grueling work, they did not start copying the letters and testaments about Jesus’s time until centuries after they were written.

These manuscripts were originally written in Koiné, or “common” Greek, and not all of the amateur copyists spoke the language or were even fully literate. Some copied the script without understanding the words.

None of this mattered for centuries, because Christians were certain God had guided the hand not only of the original writers but also of all those copyists. But in the past 100 years or so, tens of thousands of manuscripts of the New Testament have been discovered, dating back centuries. And what biblical scholars now know is that later versions of the books differ significantly from earlier ones—in fact, even copies from the same time periods differ from each other. “There are more variations among our manuscripts than there are words in the New Testament,” says Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, a groundbreaking biblical scholar and professor at the University of North Carolina who has written many books on the New Testament.

So it's pretty ludicrous to begin with.

yes....that was my point. just made quicker.

And yet you believe in "God." There's probably more evidence of what the Bible purports (scant as it is) than that..the evidence and veracity of a "God" is the exact same as Papa Smurf, Master Splinter, and Yoda being the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost.

YES I BELIEVE IN GOD. But when did i say I believe in the one from the bible? Let me tell you something you dont seem to be understanding. Before bibles and religion, we have always held one faith. The Great One, the Great Spirit, the Most High does exist in ways I cannot begin to explain. if i tried, you'd call me crazy. But i am a witness to many miraculous things have happened that no man could be held responsible for. And no amount of nay saying will shake my belief in God. i dont touch a bible nor go to church. God does exist in a way more powerful than that. bibles were designed to confuse us and make us argue among ourselves. you dont have to believe, but dont act like i'm wrong because i do.

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Check out this book,

"When God was a Woman" by Merlin Stone

You will love!

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Posted by juliettee

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Posted by LadyNeptune
Guys...Jesus Christ loves you unless your gay, a person of color, or a woman. Praise him! ?

that's the doctrine of those backward Christians who have not learned yet that only God has the right to judge. those idiots like to preach the gloom and doom in the bible, while trying to act so holy. sheeps clothing all day.

I'm talking about GOD, it's his word = his judgement.

that's true. god, and jesus love everyone. but it's a fact that astrology and homosexualism is banned from normal behavior and are sins. if you read the new testimony. i did. numerous times. but idk. i'm letting myself here.

it's important to remember that the Bible was written in a patriarchal culture that assumed men were in control and women were subject to them. marriage was not an equal partnership, but a matter of a man owning a woman or women as property. women provided men companionship, children and labor. love between the man and woman or women could develop, but love was not the basis of marriage.

consequently, the biblical concept of marriage is not appropriate today. we no longer accept the inferiority of women and superiority of men. we no longer accept marriage to be a property transaction. nor do we limit love to just being between woman and man.

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Seriously check out that book. It draws some strong correlations between the bible and how the main matriarchal societies and religions changed to the patriarchy.

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Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

My source was the bible...

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No it isn't.

Your source was a criticism of the Bible, with the verses listed to support the interpretation.

Unless it took you all of 5 minutes to look up all those versess.

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

My source was the bible...

No it isn't.

Your source was a criticism of the Bible, with the verses listed to support the interpretation.

Unless it took you all of 5 minutes to look up all those versess.

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Bible verses + my thoughts on said verses. Your welcome to debate with me. Open up your bible and fire back.

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

My source was the bible...

No it isn't.

Your source was a criticism of the Bible, with the verses listed to support the interpretation.

Unless it took you all of 5 minutes to look up all those versess.

Bible verses + my thoughts on said verses. Your welcome to debate with me. Open up your bible and fire back.

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Uh huh.

It's not my fight. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks of religion, but I find it interesting that those who speak the loudest seem to be the ones who have spent the least amount of time actually studying it.

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Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars
no who dat

You are ignorant underdeveloped moron who has nothing sacret! Begone shizo! ??

Glad you're not, because you need jesus #ho ☕️

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You said Jesus who? Have you got some epiphany last 24 hours?

Doesn't seem like it, miscarriage of the nature...

Posted by juliettee

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

My source was the bible...

No it isn't.

Your source was a criticism of the Bible, with the verses listed to support the interpretation.

Unless it took you all of 5 minutes to look up all those versess.

Bible verses + my thoughts on said verses. Your welcome to debate with me. Open up your bible and fire back.

i never would imagine you as a bible person. you are like this modern, don't take shit from anyone woman. then again maybe that's why. 😄

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I was raised in a religious cult of sorts centered around the bible. But I've read all major religious text.

Knowledge is power.

Posted by juliettee

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by juliettee

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by sultrykitty
I think it would behoove @LadyNeptune to actually link her source of the quotes. My guess is that it's not a source that actually knows what legitimate exegesis is.

Open up a bible to confirm whether the verses are correct.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe the Bible (or Christianity in general) but lifting from a source that clearly hasn't done much work to come to their conclusions doesn't really do you many favors.

My source was the bible...

No it isn't.

Your source was a criticism of the Bible, with the verses listed to support the interpretation.

Unless it took you all of 5 minutes to look up all those versess.

Bible verses + my thoughts on said verses. Your welcome to debate with me. Open up your bible and fire back.

i never would imagine you as a bible person. you are like this modern, don't take shit from anyone woman. then again maybe that's why. 😄

I was raised in a religious cult of sorts centered around the bible. But I've read all major religious text.

Knowledge is power.

hell yeah, praise the lord. but again i imagine you as a power women who commands men what to do. lol

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Yeap, thats me. Commanding men since 1988 lol

For the record, Lady Neptune's source (not her own words)

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/god-is-not-pro-life/

They have one for the Qu'ran too. Entertaining, but not particularly enlighting. Religious criticism for the lazy.

Posted by starwars

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars
no who dat

You are ignorant underdeveloped moron who has nothing sacret! Begone shizo! ??

Glad you're not, because you need jesus #ho ☕️

You said Jesus who? Have you got some epiphany last 24 hours?

Doesn't seem like it, miscarriage of the nature...

Go read the bible and stop being a dumbshit #ho

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I bet you think Bible is a comics book you've got your stupid face from.

Posted by sultrykitty
For the record, Lady Neptune's source (not her own words)

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/god-is-not-pro-life/

They have one for the Qu'ran too. Entertaining, but not particularly enlighting. Religious criticism for the lazy.

Yup.

For one--

Quoted out of context.

Like when LadyNeptune said

"You will love... the patriarchy."

lol

Posted by juliettee

Posted by sultrykitty
For the record, Lady Neptune's source (not her own words)

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/god-is-not-pro-life/

They have one for the Qu'ran too. Entertaining, but not particularly enlighting. Religious criticism for the lazy.

wtf is that url. i shut it down immediately. should i read it?

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It's fine, not infected or spammy. Just a really dishonest critique of the Bible (and Qu'ran). There are much better arguments out there, but you have to actually be interested to look for them.

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Posted by MagicMona

Posted by Chance_12

Posted by MagicMona

Posted by Chance_12

Posted by MagicMona

Posted by nikkistar
Organized religion, blargh. Something created by society, as a means to control and dictate to those of lesser social status on how they should live. No, thanks.

I am Agnostic for a reason. Not because I don't hope for more, but because religion has been perverted and distorted, in my opinion.

anything man made usually is.

The whole thing is man-made including the Bible. It was written by scribes that added things and left others out. The Jesus myth is just a hodgepodge of stories cobbled together from stories that had been circulating the Mediterranean for centuries.. they changed names and ripped off the Egyptians and other cultures. The Moses story isn't original either.

In the 2000's, a council was put together by religious leaders and scholars to find out the validity of Jesus's teachings. Their findings were that 18% of what he did and 16% of what he said could reasonably be somewhat verified. That doesn't even qualify as a failing grade.

This all developed 2000 years ago in the most illiterate, uniformed area of the world at the time. There were vibrant cultures in both India and China as well as other places.

No television preacher has ever read the Bible. Neither has any evangelical politician. Neither has the pope. Neither have I. And neither have you. At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.

About 400 years passed between the writing of the first Christian manuscripts and their compilation into the New Testament. (That’s the same amount of time between the arrival of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower and today.) The first books of the Old Testament were written 1,000 years before that. In other words, some 1,500 years passed between the day the first biblical author put stick to clay and when the books that would become the New Testament.

Back then, writings from one era could be passed to the next only by copying them by hand. While there were professional scribes whose lives were dedicated to this grueling work, they did not start copying the letters and testaments about Jesus’s time until centuries after they were written.

These manuscripts were originally written in Koiné, or “common” Greek, and not all of the amateur copyists spoke the language or were even fully literate. Some copied the script without understanding the words.

None of this mattered for centuries, because Christians were certain God had guided the hand not only of the original writers but also of all those copyists. But in the past 100 years or so, tens of thousands of manuscripts of the New Testament have been discovered, dating back centuries. And what biblical scholars now know is that later versions of the books differ significantly from earlier ones—in fact, even copies from the same time periods differ from each other. “There are more variations among our manuscripts than there are words in the New Testament,” says Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, a groundbreaking biblical scholar and professor at the University of North Carolina who has written many books on the New Testament.

So it's pretty ludicrous to begin with.

yes....that was my point. just made quicker.

And yet you believe in "God." There's probably more evidence of what the Bible purports (scant as it is) than that..the evidence and veracity of a "God" is the exact same as Papa Smurf, Master Splinter, and Yoda being the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost.

YES I BELIEVE IN GOD. But when did i say I believe in the one from the bible? Let me tell you something you dont seem to be understanding. Before bibles and religion, we have always held one faith. The Great One, the Great Spirit, the Most High does exist in ways I cannot begin to explain. if i tried, you'd call me crazy. But i am a witness to many miraculous things have happened that no man could be held responsible for. And no amount of nay saying will shake my belief in God. i dont touch a bible nor go to church. God does exist in a way more powerful than that. bibles were designed to confuse us and make us argue among ourselves. you dont have to believe, but dont act like i'm wrong because i do.

And those are highly dubious and subjective based on individual perception.

The burden of proof is on those that make such fantastic claims, not those that claim to not know something that's impossible to know..and of which there is absolutely zero that is verifiable. In reality, there never has been. People seem to think that there isn't a limit to our understanding. There is. We're 98.6% identical to chimps and live on a planet that is not even a neglible speck of dust in relation to our Universe. We're a wonder of the Universe but there are many..and the great majority of them are beyond our comprehension. For me, there's no need to make stuff up to comfort ourselves. And yet people think God is talking directly to them. It's the height of insignificant man over valuing and emphasizing their importance. Theres nothing wrong with a search for meaning but let's not be lazy and invent things in lieu of an answer.

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I agree with you especially on being lazy and inventing things in lieu of an answer. Buy what do you mean ther isn't a limit to understanding? You mean understanding god? Because I do believe that our minds are powerful when focused coming from Neurologial perspective with research in plasticity.

Can you clarify please?

Posted by starwars

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by starwars
no who dat

You are ignorant underdeveloped moron who has nothing sacret! Begone shizo! ??

Glad you're not, because you need jesus #ho ☕️

You said Jesus who? Have you got some epiphany last 24 hours?

Doesn't seem like it, miscarriage of the nature...

Go read the bible and stop being a dumbshit #ho

I bet you think Bible is a comics book you've got your stupid face from.

duh

jesus is my favorite superhero?

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So...saying Jesus who was your moronic way of being rebellious against nothing in particular?

Just to show you ARE a moron?

riiiiich

Posted by -Flo-
She's right whorpio,

To ask forgiveness of your sins is to a clean slate and not to keep doing it. Basically you have decided you want him in your life completely and abide by his ways.

Ex; you have a probation officer because of your drug use and crime in the past, do you go the probation officer telling her you want to change but keep pissing dirty? That's not changing, that's just saying it OR do you mean what you say, actually change your life, piss clean, and eventually your let off the hook to live life drug free?

Acts 3:19

19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,

God is nicer & more forgiving than y'all think.

Posted by -Flo-

Posted by Whorpio

Posted by -Flo-
She's right whorpio,

To ask forgiveness of your sins is to a clean slate and not to keep doing it. Basically you have decided you want him in your life completely and abide by his ways.

Ex; you have a probation officer because of your drug use and crime in the past, do you go the probation officer telling her you want to change but keep pissing dirty? That's not changing, that's just saying it OR do you mean what you say, actually change your life, piss clean, and eventually your let off the hook to live life drug free?

Acts 3:19

19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,

God is nicer & more forgiving than y'all think.

Reading scriptures will help guide you.

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Reading SUCKS

Thanks for posting.

I am Catholic.

I love Jesus Christ more than you know.

Words can not express how grateful I am to have a wonderful, spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ.

The Lord has never forsaken me, answered all my prayers, has always been my Guardian Angel.

Last year in 2016 was the Year of Mercy, I fasted the entire 40+ days during Lent (broke my fast after 6pm), gave to charity, benevolent acts of kindness, and learned to live without certain things. It taught me that God has a bigger plan, a universal utopia that's bigger than us. It teaches us not to be so self-serving, but aslo teaches us selflessness. The same loving mercy God has towards us is the same love that should be given to our community and our neighbors.

For 2017, entered a more relaxed relationship with God. I learned to move on 'faith', to limit my anxieties, fears, and the ability to try to control everything. To stop resisting and embrace the plans that he has for me. To move strictly on faith.

Jesus loves me, and I couldn't ask for a better kind of love.

When in doubt, and the external pressures of life becomes too much to bear...

Just simply say....

"Jesus take my hands and walk with me."

Posted by EnochtheWise
So....anyone giving their life to Jesus as a result of this spam on the religious board yet?

People responding to it all personally "Thank you for this Jacqueline! You blessed my soul today!"....lol

😆 -

EnochtheWiseass

Posted by YasmineMin

Posted by Whorpio

Posted by YasmineMin

Posted by Whorpio
Tl;dr. All I know is it don't matter how bad you sin, as long as you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will be granted salvation when you die.

No, that's a misconception. You have to know in your heart you are trying to be good. You cant just sin because you know God will forgive you. That's not how it works.

Who are you to say that's not how it works?

It's what the bible says look it up

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How about this: you follow your rendition of God/Jesus, and I follow mine. Sound good?

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Posted by Montgomery

Posted by EnochtheWise
So....anyone giving their life to Jesus as a result of this spam on the religious board yet?

People responding to it all personally "Thank you for this Jacqueline! You blessed my soul today!"....lol

😆 -

EnochtheWiseass

"Hi guys. I don't know where to post this, but the Lord has been laying it on my heart for the past few days to tell people about Jesus......"

link: https://www.indeed.com/forum/job/police-officer/Wish-Never-Became-Police-Officer/t58960/p2



"Hi guys.I don't know where to post this, but the Lord has been laying it on my heart for the past few days to tell people about Jesus....."

link: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/do-you-know-jesus-christ-33395461/



"Hi guys. I don't know where to post this, but the Lord has been laying it on my heart for the past few days to tell people about Jesus...."

link: http://discuss.faywest.com/southconnellsville/



"Hi guys. I don't know where to post this, but the Lord has been laying it on my heart for the past few days to tell people about Jesus...."

link: www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/134346300-hi-tell-jesus-christ-2.html#post2966181



etc. etc.....

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Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by Chance_12
My favorite is when athletes go on TV and thank God for an NBA championship...because how could some poor kid from Alabama grow up to be a millionaire and win a title. If you look at a map of where concentrated slavery took place in the U.S., it coincides with where the best athletes come from.

But not everyone who were descendents of that region become millionaires and win an NBA championship.

...It's called humility and gratitude.

FYI,

Funny you mention 'poor kid from Alabama'....

As if indicating all descendants of that region were only athleically gifted...

...and had very little else to offer.

They went on to build HBCUs in this country...

Trained to become scientists, physicians, lawyers and teachers,

Despite all the racial prejudices they faced, they were still able to overcome adversaries.

I'm sure they also thanked God.

Again...

It's called humility and gratitude.

Chance...

Not insinuating anything.

Please don't get butthurt.

You made a hasty generalization, and made a mockery of a statement given by an athlete.

Not all men who are athletically inclined win NBA Championships.

Not all men who are intellectually inclined go on to pursue post-doctorate degrees.

Some people view accomplishments as a self-serving entitlement.

Some people view accomplishments with grace and humility.

Perhaps,

I think this is what separates the 'egoist' and the 'nobleman'.

A nobleman overcomes adversaries with grace and humility.

An egoist feels entiltled to his success and is often self-serving.

There is nothing wrong with giving thanks to a higher power.

You don't know what trials and tribulations people encounter on a daily basis.

This was the main premise that you overlooked.

Posted by -Flo-

Posted by Whorpio

Posted by YasmineMin

Posted by Whorpio
Tl;dr. All I know is it don't matter how bad you sin, as long as you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will be granted salvation when you die.

No, that's a misconception. You have to know in your heart you are trying to be good. You cant just sin because you know God will forgive you. That's not how it works.

Who are you to say that's not how it works?

She's right whorpio,

To ask forgiveness of your sins is to a clean slate and not to keep doing it. Basically you have decided you want him in your life completely and abide by his ways.

Ex; you have a probation officer because of your drug use and crime in the past, do you go the probation officer telling her you want to change but keep pissing dirty? That's not changing, that's just saying it OR do you mean what you say, actually change your life, piss clean, and eventually your let off the hook to live life drug free?

Acts 3:19

19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,

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Maybe i misunderstand your intent-- but *IMO*

that kind of change is a byproduct ... it isn't

saying sorry then following rules that aren't in

our nature to follow (only to fail, through your

own effort).

If we could override all our weaknesses by

sheer force of will, most of us would.

Most of us can't.

@VenusAquarius said it well, in another thread,

some time ago: God knows the heart.



'Your faith has saved you.' Lk.7:50

-Chance

Enlighten me....

What was your point?

Run it by me again.

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Posted by Effervescent
Lol @ this thread and the comments. Astrology is a sin. You don't get to make your own God that accepts your sinful life style and will still call you a true Christian.

Where does it say that astrology is a sin?

In the bible. Duhhh



85% of "Christians" today: "I'm a Christian and I love God and he's by my side and I'm going to heaven but yeah, I also swear, fuck outside of a marriage, touch myself, have hate, envy and anger in my heart, oh yeah, and I do tarot cards, I'm into Astrology and I don't follow much of what God actually asks from me. But oh my God, like, I'm like totally a Christian."

It doesnt actually say you cant do astrology, all l read was a passage about how "even astrologers and fortune tellers wonlt know the day of reckoning".

Isaiah 47:13-14

"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!

Daniel 2:27

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Daniel answered before the king and said, "As for the mystery about which the king has inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians nor diviners are able to declare it to the king.

Exactly! It just says we canlt answer the real deep questions about god or some shet...it doesnt say we'll burn in hell.

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Except it does:

"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame

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Lol @ this thread and the comments. Astrology is a sin. You don't get to make your own God that accepts your sinful life style and will still call you a true Christian.

Where does it say that astrology is a sin?

In the bible. Duhhh



85% of "Christians" today: "I'm a Christian and I love God and he's by my side and I'm going to heaven but yeah, I also swear, fuck outside of a marriage, touch myself, have hate, envy and anger in my heart, oh yeah, and I do tarot cards, I'm into Astrology and I don't follow much of what God actually asks from me. But oh my God, like, I'm like totally a Christian."

It doesnt actually say you cant do astrology, all l read was a passage about how "even astrologers and fortune tellers wonlt know the day of reckoning".

Isaiah 47:13-14

"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!

Daniel 2:27

Verse Concepts

Daniel answered before the king and said, "As for the mystery about which the king has inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians nor diviners are able to declare it to the king.

Exactly! It just says we canlt answer the real deep questions about god or some shet...it doesnt say we'll burn in hell.

Except it does:

"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame

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Once again. Soles are fleshless. How can it burn?

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Posted by cornmaizeshark

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent
Lol @ this thread and the comments. Astrology is a sin. You don't get to make your own God that accepts your sinful life style and will still call you a true Christian.

Where does it say that astrology is a sin?

In the bible. Duhhh



85% of "Christians" today: "I'm a Christian and I love God and he's by my side and I'm going to heaven but yeah, I also swear, fuck outside of a marriage, touch myself, have hate, envy and anger in my heart, oh yeah, and I do tarot cards, I'm into Astrology and I don't follow much of what God actually asks from me. But oh my God, like, I'm like totally a Christian."

It doesnt actually say you cant do astrology, all l read was a passage about how "even astrologers and fortune tellers wonlt know the day of reckoning".

Isaiah 47:13-14

"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!

Daniel 2:27

Verse Concepts

Daniel answered before the king and said, "As for the mystery about which the king has inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians nor diviners are able to declare it to the king.

Exactly! It just says we canlt answer the real deep questions about god or some shet...it doesnt say we'll burn in hell.

Except it does:

"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame

Once again. Soles are fleshless. How can it burn?

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Soles are usually made out of rubber, which absolutely burns. If you don't believe me you can test it yourself.

🙂

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Posted by Gemitati

Posted by cornmaizeshark

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent
Lol @ this thread and the comments. Astrology is a sin. You don't get to make your own God that accepts your sinful life style and will still call you a true Christian.

Where does it say that astrology is a sin?

In the bible. Duhhh



85% of "Christians" today: "I'm a Christian and I love God and he's by my side and I'm going to heaven but yeah, I also swear, fuck outside of a marriage, touch myself, have hate, envy and anger in my heart, oh yeah, and I do tarot cards, I'm into Astrology and I don't follow much of what God actually asks from me. But oh my God, like, I'm like totally a Christian."

It doesnt actually say you cant do astrology, all l read was a passage about how "even astrologers and fortune tellers wonlt know the day of reckoning".

Isaiah 47:13-14

"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!

Daniel 2:27

Verse Concepts

Daniel answered before the king and said, "As for the mystery about which the king has inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians nor diviners are able to declare it to the king.

Exactly! It just says we canlt answer the real deep questions about god or some shet...it doesnt say we'll burn in hell.

Except it does:

"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame

Once again. Soles are fleshless. How can it burn?

Soles are usually made out of rubber, which absolutely burns. If you don't believe me you can test it yourself.

🙂

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Got me here! ?☺️

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Tl;dr. All I know is it don't matter how bad you sin, as long as you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will be granted salvation when you die.

No, that's a misconception. You have to know in your heart you are trying to be good. You cant just sin because you know God will forgive you. That's not how it works.

Who are you to say that's not how it works?

It's what the bible says look it up

How about this: you follow your rendition of God/Jesus, and I follow mine. Sound good?

Then dont post it on a message board, simple as that.

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Lmaooooooo right back at ya sweet cheeks ??

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Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent

Posted by bricklemark

Posted by Effervescent
Lol @ this thread and the comments. Astrology is a sin. You don't get to make your own God that accepts your sinful life style and will still call you a true Christian.

Where does it say that astrology is a sin?

In the bible. Duhhh



85% of "Christians" today: "I'm a Christian and I love God and he's by my side and I'm going to heaven but yeah, I also swear, fuck outside of a marriage, touch myself, have hate, envy and anger in my heart, oh yeah, and I do tarot cards, I'm into Astrology and I don't follow much of what God actually asks from me. But oh my God, like, I'm like totally a Christian."

It doesnt actually say you cant do astrology, all l read was a passage about how "even astrologers and fortune tellers wonlt know the day of reckoning".

Isaiah 47:13-14

"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!

Daniel 2:27

Verse Concepts

Daniel answered before the king and said, "As for the mystery about which the king has inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians nor diviners are able to declare it to the king.

Exactly! It just says we canlt answer the real deep questions about god or some shet...it doesnt say we'll burn in hell.

Except it does:

"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame

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Bit vague...?