Why is this Sag guy keeping me close but in the dark

Hey, this is my 1st post here and I need some advice. I've been dealing with a Sag sun Venus in Scorpio guy off and on for about 10 years. I am older than him and when we first started dating, people told him that it wasn't a good idea.

People he respected told him he should be seeing someone else - she's a sag, Venus in Aquarius. That she was a better look for him, someone he could "build" with. They are now married with 2 kids. But he always comes back to me. Sometimes indirectly - like if I see him out, he wouldn't speak but make his way to the area I was in to get my attention, etc.

Anyway, about 3 years ago his wife became friends with me on twitter. When they started having issues, she would talk to me about it. I asked him what was happening, he said he didn't know why she was doing it but act normal cause she would know something...

For the record, he and I aren't having sex but I can't say the relationship is totally innocent. The weird thing is he never wants to tell me how he feels about me. He doesn't let me get too far out of his reach but he's not really saying what it is he wants.

I think the wife has a feeling he isn't over me and thats why she keeps me close. But I don't understand why he won't say how he does or doesn't feel. He seems to play games and try to get me to react. But he's married so I can't really understand what the goal is.

I'm a taurus with venus in gem.

Any advice is appreciated.

Posted by TaurusVenGem
Hey, this is my 1st post here and I need some advice. I've been dealing with a Sag sun Venus in Scorpio guy off and on for about 10 years. I am older than him and when we first started dating, people told him that it wasn't a good idea.

People he respected told him he should be seeing someone else - she's a sag, Venus in Aquarius. That she was a better look for him, someone he could "build" with. They are now married with 2 kids. But he always comes back to me. Sometimes indirectly - like if I see him out, he wouldn't speak but make his way to the area I was in to get my attention, etc.

Anyway, about 3 years ago his wife became friends with me on twitter. When they started having issues, she would talk to me about it. I asked him what was happening, he said he didn't know why she was doing it but act normal cause she would know something...

For the record, he and I aren't having sex but I can't say the relationship is totally innocent. The weird thing is he never wants to tell me how he feels about me. He doesn't let me get too far out of his reach but he's not really saying what it is he wants.

I think the wife has a feeling he isn't over me and thats why she keeps me close. But I don't understand why he won't say how he does or doesn't feel. He seems to play games and try to get me to react. But he's married so I can't really understand what the goal is.

I'm a taurus with venus in gem.

Any advice is appreciated.

Stay away... They are married and you are interfering. If he wants to be with you then he needs to divorce his wife as the first step.

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Posted by TaurusVenGem
Hey, this is my 1st post here and I need some advice. I've been dealing with a Sag sun Venus in Scorpio guy off and on for about 10 years. I am older than him and when we first started dating, people told him that it wasn't a good idea.

People he respected told him he should be seeing someone else - she's a sag, Venus in Aquarius. That she was a better look for him, someone he could "build" with. They are now married with 2 kids. But he always comes back to me. Sometimes indirectly - like if I see him out, he wouldn't speak but make his way to the area I was in to get my attention, etc.

Anyway, about 3 years ago his wife became friends with me on twitter. When they started having issues, she would talk to me about it. I asked him what was happening, he said he didn't know why she was doing it but act normal cause she would know something...

For the record, he and I aren't having sex but I can't say the relationship is totally innocent. The weird thing is he never wants to tell me how he feels about me. He doesn't let me get too far out of his reach but he's not really saying what it is he wants.

I think the wife has a feeling he isn't over me and thats why she keeps me close. But I don't understand why he won't say how he does or doesn't feel. He seems to play games and try to get me to react. But he's married so I can't really understand what the goal is.

I'm a taurus with venus in gem.

Any advice is appreciated.

Stay away... They are married and you are interfering. If he wants to be with you then he needs to divorce his wife as the first step.

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thanks mom... joking. I get that obvious part, I'm more interested in where his head is at, not what to do morally.

They are married but both have basically told me love has nothing to do with their union.

Posted by busyeyes88
Ffs he is MARRIED!! What advice do you need ? Leave him the fuck alone and find a person who is free? He married the sag not you!!! You Have no pride. If there were me and he married the Sag I would have simply said 'goodbye Felicia'!! End off!!!

It's interested i had someone tell me. Men have side chicks even if they are married, because one maybe different than the other..So they have both for different reasons. I said I'm not side chick I want to be the main one. So that is what I have to think about with men nowadays. My choice.

I remember a guy telling me that he lets woman make the decision of letting go if they are with him, so meaning he doesn't have to be liable or responsible if anything pops off and it's mainly fwb status. And perhaps stay with the one he did marry or is a playa and doesn't care.

I said well I have to really make a decision then options are being a side chick nowadays, stay single, or find the one who has everything I need in one person.. I picked options 2 and 3 only.

I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

Ctfu. "Im not into what to do morally"

Wow. Just wow. Infamous Taurus high standards and morals.

Where the fawk do ppl get this behavior from?

Posted by TaurusVenGem
I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

He keeps you close because you have no morals, no conviction. Youre independent, and you dont cause waves in his marriage.

Do you have kids? Even better for him.

Do you ask him.for money? Even better.

She knows you 2 are close, so she keeps you close 2. In hopes that you will be straight up with ber.

But you wont because you're loyal to him.

Posted by DMV
Ctfu. "Im not into what to do morally"

Wow. Just wow. Infamous Taurus high standards and morals.

Where the fawk do ppl get this behavior from?

I say that because we aren't sexually involved. I'm not asking him to leave his wife. Just seeing where his head is at. Again you all seem to be missing THAT part.

What moral line am I crossing? It's not as if all parties aren't aware of the history

I understood your question. I believe he keeps circling, because it's what you are allowing. Apart of you wants to be with him, and I'm sure apart of him wants to be with you. But what it comes down to are the steps he is taking for you two to be together. Doesn't look like many if he cares that his wife knows nothing about you two. I don't think what he's doing is right, simply because it sounds like one HUGE game. Toying with you, and if you continue to allow it and play along, talk with his wife as you are her friend and nothing is going on between you and him, then NOTHING will ever change. You will be this "mistress" for him and a "therapist" for her. This kind of reminds me the movie "my best friends wedding". I think how she sees it as maybe as long as she makes good friends with you, she won't be led to believe you have anything going on with him. He is "Michael" you are Michaels ex fling "Julia Roberts" and she is "Kimmy". I hope you've seen that movie. If not watch it. Youll get the comparison. Keep him at a distance and eventually I would cut all ties.

Posted by Islandgal24
I understood your question. I believe he keeps circling, because it's what you are allowing. Apart of you wants to be with him, and I'm sure apart of him wants to be with you. But what it comes down to are the steps he is taking for you two to be together. Doesn't look like many if he cares that his wife knows nothing about you two. I don't think what he's doing is right, simply because it sounds like one HUGE game. Toying with you, and if you continue to allow it and play along, talk with his wife as you are her friend and nothing is going on between you and him, then NOTHING will ever change. You will be this "mistress" for him and a "therapist" for her. This kind of reminds me the movie "my best friends wedding". I think how she sees it as maybe as long as she makes good friends with you, she won't be led to believe you have anything going on with him. He is "Michael" you are Michaels ex fling "Julia Roberts" and she is "Kimmy". I hope you've seen that movie. If not watch it. Youll get the comparison. Keep him at a distance and eventually I would cut all ties.

THANK YOU! I have heard of that movie but never watched, I'll check it out. One of my friends made a similar comparison to a movie with Cameron Diaz, The Other Woman" I've never seen that either. Guess I'll check netflix

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Posted by TaurusVenGem
I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

He keeps you close because you have no morals, no conviction. Youre independent, and you dont cause waves in his marriage.

Do you have kids? Even better for him.

Do you ask him.for money? Even better.

She knows you 2 are close, so she keeps you close 2. In hopes that you will be straight up with ber.

But you wont because you're loyal to him.

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She has caught him cheating a bunch of times. His proposal to her was a result of a pregnancy scare with another woman. They found out the baby wasn't his 2 days before the wedding. She knows who she married.

If I had no morals I'd be having sex with him or something more. I guess I'm scaring the married folks

Oh and I also agree. It's easier for his wife to get in cool with you his close "female" friend rather than his male friends. She wants to know things about what's going in his life that he's not telling her. I guess I get where she's coming from, would I behave like that NO. lol

Posted by TaurusVenGem
Hey, this is my 1st post here and I need some advice. I've been dealing with a Sag sun Venus in Scorpio guy off and on for about 10 years. I am older than him and when we first started dating, people told him that it wasn't a good idea.

People he respected told him he should be seeing someone else - she's a sag, Venus in Aquarius. That she was a better look for him, someone he could "build" with. They are now married with 2 kids. But he always comes back to me. Sometimes indirectly - like if I see him out, he wouldn't speak but make his way to the area I was in to get my attention, etc.

Anyway, about 3 years ago his wife became friends with me on twitter. When they started having issues, she would talk to me about it. I asked him what was happening, he said he didn't know why she was doing it but act normal cause she would know something...

For the record, he and I aren't having sex but I can't say the relationship is totally innocent. The weird thing is he never wants to tell me how he feels about me. He doesn't let me get too far out of his reach but he's not really saying what it is he wants.

I think the wife has a feeling he isn't over me and thats why she keeps me close. But I don't understand why he won't say how he does or doesn't feel. He seems to play games and try to get me to react. But he's married so I can't really understand what the goal is.

I'm a taurus with venus in gem.

Any advice is appreciated.

Sag Sun Venus Scorpio

Sag sun Venus in Aquarius..

Always come back to each other. I know because I've dealt with that. Me being the Venus in Aquarius I guess we UNDERSTAND a lot, so we let the Venus in Scorpio go sometimes it's complicated. Idk why... But be careful whatever you do. Sometimes people look for outlets, and others get hurt. Don't let that happen to you.

Posted by Islandgal24
Oh and I also agree. It's easier for his wife to get in cool with you his close "female" friend rather than his male friends. She wants to know things about what's going in his life that he's not telling her. I guess I get where she's coming from, would I behave like that NO. lol

I'm not one of his close female friends - although she befriends them too. I am the girl he was dating when they met. She and I used to beef back in the day. When she got pregnant, they became a couple and that was sort of it. But he and I would always make out way back to each other - conversation, I would have to do the actual contacting but he would always try to let me know he wanted me to reach out.

It's a weird triangle. I tried to keep it brief

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Posted by TaurusVenGem
Hey, this is my 1st post here and I need some advice. I've been dealing with a Sag sun Venus in Scorpio guy off and on for about 10 years. I am older than him and when we first started dating, people told him that it wasn't a good idea.

People he respected told him he should be seeing someone else - she's a sag, Venus in Aquarius. That she was a better look for him, someone he could "build" with. They are now married with 2 kids. But he always comes back to me. Sometimes indirectly - like if I see him out, he wouldn't speak but make his way to the area I was in to get my attention, etc.

Anyway, about 3 years ago his wife became friends with me on twitter. When they started having issues, she would talk to me about it. I asked him what was happening, he said he didn't know why she was doing it but act normal cause she would know something...

For the record, he and I aren't having sex but I can't say the relationship is totally innocent. The weird thing is he never wants to tell me how he feels about me. He doesn't let me get too far out of his reach but he's not really saying what it is he wants.

I think the wife has a feeling he isn't over me and thats why she keeps me close. But I don't understand why he won't say how he does or doesn't feel. He seems to play games and try to get me to react. But he's married so I can't really understand what the goal is.

I'm a taurus with venus in gem.

Any advice is appreciated.

Sag Sun Venus Scorpio

Sag sun Venus in Aquarius..

Always come back to each other. I know because I've dealt with that. Me being the Venus in Aquarius I guess we UNDERSTAND a lot, so we let the Venus in Scorpio go sometimes it's complicated. Idk why... But be careful whatever you do. Sometimes people look for outlets, and others get hurt. Don't let that happen to you.

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They refer to themselves as best friends. She says she understands his communication issues cause they are the same sign. She def wears the pants in their relationship. But she does stuff like explain to me why in the past he acted a certain way towards me - I didn't ask she brought it up when we were discussing something else.

I don't think they will divorce because neither wants to admit they made a mistake, and I think they are comfortable. But its weird that they try to keep me close in different ways. Never had something like that happen before

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Posted by TaurusVenGem
I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

He keeps you close because you have no morals, no conviction. Youre independent, and you dont cause waves in his marriage.

Do you have kids? Even better for him.

Do you ask him.for money? Even better.

She knows you 2 are close, so she keeps you close 2. In hopes that you will be straight up with ber.

But you wont because you're loyal to him.

She has caught him cheating a bunch of times. His proposal to her was a result of a pregnancy scare with another woman. They found out the baby wasn't his 2 days before the wedding. She knows who she married.

If I had no morals I'd be having sex with him or something more. I guess I'm scaring the married folks

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Why did we need to know that?

You missed the point of what i wrote.

He keeps coming back cause you allow him 2. You accept him

Posted by DMV

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV

Posted by TaurusVenGem
I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

He keeps you close because you have no morals, no conviction. Youre independent, and you dont cause waves in his marriage.

Do you have kids? Even better for him.

Do you ask him.for money? Even better.

She knows you 2 are close, so she keeps you close 2. In hopes that you will be straight up with ber.

But you wont because you're loyal to him.

She has caught him cheating a bunch of times. His proposal to her was a result of a pregnancy scare with another woman. They found out the baby wasn't his 2 days before the wedding. She knows who she married.

If I had no morals I'd be having sex with him or something more. I guess I'm scaring the married folks

Why did we need to know that?

You missed the point of what i wrote.

He keeps coming back cause you allow him 2. You accept him

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You said I lack morals and conviction. I was showing you that your POV on THAT aspect is pretty skewed.

I guess I feel like without sex, what is he coming back to? If the point is to have sex with no issues, hes not getting that. I thought Sag's were so honest and blunt. If all he's looking for is sex, I don't see why he wouldn't speak on it to get to it, or move along to someone else.

Feels like there's another goal.

But I guess since all you guys see is my "lack of morals" I won't get that sort of insight.

You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with hee own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

This dude sounds like a real prize.

Why would you even bother?

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV

Posted by TaurusVenGem

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Posted by TaurusVenGem
I don't have pride because of conversations. Listen I didn't say I want him to get divorced, I didn't say we are having an affair, I just want to know why he keeps circling back and why the wife befriended me and tells all their biz.

I didn't realize I asked a question about the morality of a married sag. Just why he keeps me close.

He keeps you close because you have no morals, no conviction. Youre independent, and you dont cause waves in his marriage.

Do you have kids? Even better for him.

Do you ask him.for money? Even better.

She knows you 2 are close, so she keeps you close 2. In hopes that you will be straight up with ber.

But you wont because you're loyal to him.

She has caught him cheating a bunch of times. His proposal to her was a result of a pregnancy scare with another woman. They found out the baby wasn't his 2 days before the wedding. She knows who she married.

If I had no morals I'd be having sex with him or something more. I guess I'm scaring the married folks

Why did we need to know that?

You missed the point of what i wrote.

He keeps coming back cause you allow him 2. You accept him

You said I lack morals and conviction. I was showing you that your POV on THAT aspect is pretty skewed.

I guess I feel like without sex, what is he coming back to? If the point is to have sex with no issues, hes not getting that. I thought Sag's were so honest and blunt. If all he's looking for is sex, I don't see why he wouldn't speak on it to get to it, or move along to someone else.

Feels like there's another goal.

But I guess since all you guys see is my "lack of morals" I won't get that sort of insight.

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What they are trying to say is if you was in the other woman's shoes, how would you feel? Yes she might be keeping you close because she probably feels like that is the only way like she has some sort of control of the situation. You may no be having sex with him but having a conversation can be more intimate than being physically involvement. You say that he doesn't contact you but gives you hints to, that is your choice. Your choice to involve yourself in their lives, even if he was the one to contact you, you still have the choice to either continue you to talk to him or not. Just remember you may not be thinking your doing anything wrong but its about respect. Even if he doesn't respect their union, doesn't mean you don't have to. Karma is a you know what. Just be careful.

This man should not get another 3 seconds of your queendom.

Block her, block him. Ball out

Posted by DMV
You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with he own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

In the past I did the contacting. Now if he doesn't hear from me he'll hit me up. But that's not important. I was just wondering what HIS motivation was for this. Not seeking advice on my non-existent love life with him.

I could answer some of the real questions you posed, but somehow I feel like you just want to break it down to me being immoral and MORE. I really JUST wanted to know why a guy that should be happy and is with their "choice" keeps trying to remain in my life.

But I do appreciate the response even if I'm questioning the content.

I already know their relationship before you even explained it. I'm pretty sure he's the cheater, and she's the one who always forgive him. I'm sure she has done her dirt also... But idk... I doubt they break up.

The thing is, the relationship can go from super perfect to super super super toxic in one second, seriously... And then the Venus in Scorpio looks for that intensity elsewhere. Look at the threads of sag sun Venus scorpio, not the easiest combination to deal with. And her being a Venus in Aquarius, we are super cool so she probably knows he likes you and she "understands" why... Might even think y'all could be together. But the Venus in Scorpio won't ever let her go fully. He might stray for a minute, even months... But he knows where home is.

BE CAREFUL WITH THIS SITUATION.

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV
You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with he own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

In the past I did the contacting. Now if he doesn't hear from me he'll hit me up. But that's not important. I was just wondering what HIS motivation was for this. Not seeking advice on my non-existent love life with him.

I could answer some of the real questions you posed, but somehow I feel like you just want to break it down to me being immoral and MORE. I really JUST wanted to know why a guy that should be happy and is with their "choice" keeps trying to remain in my life.

But I do appreciate the response even if I'm questioning the content.

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Why does his motivation matter to you so much? You know he is either playing games or he is in love with you still.

Posted by arose32
I already know their relationship before you even explained it. I'm pretty sure he's the cheater, and she's the one who always forgive him. I'm sure she has done her dirt also... But idk... I doubt they break up.

The thing is, the relationship can go from super perfect to super super super toxic in one second, seriously... And then the Venus in Scorpio looks for that intensity elsewhere. Look at the threads of sag sun Venus scorpio, not the easiest combination to deal with. And her being a Venus in Aquarius, we are super cool so she probably knows he likes you and she "understands" why... Might even think y'all could be together. But the Venus in Scorpio won't ever let her go fully. He might stray for a minute, even months... But he knows where home is.

BE CAREFUL WITH THIS SITUATION.

Be careful cause he's never leaving her? I know she understands why. There are some similar points to us. In that weird Sag girl thing, she even emulates me at times.

I still don't see why he wont just say whatever he's really feeling about me. Or why the games. it's weird and I guess my curious nature keeps me waiting to see what the mystery really is.

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Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV
You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with he own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

In the past I did the contacting. Now if he doesn't hear from me he'll hit me up. But that's not important. I was just wondering what HIS motivation was for this. Not seeking advice on my non-existent love life with him.

I could answer some of the real questions you posed, but somehow I feel like you just want to break it down to me being immoral and MORE. I really JUST wanted to know why a guy that should be happy and is with their "choice" keeps trying to remain in my life.

But I do appreciate the response even if I'm questioning the content.

Why does his motivation matter to you so much? You know he is either playing games or he is in love with you still.

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Because I want to know which one it is. I'm human, they whys matter to me. Some people don't need answers and can just keep it going. I like to understand the whys because that's the type of person I am. Maybe that's the Taurus in me.

Must be nice to never question life's little twists

Understandable. I like to know "why" also..

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by Mic2016

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV
You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with he own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

In the past I did the contacting. Now if he doesn't hear from me he'll hit me up. But that's not important. I was just wondering what HIS motivation was for this. Not seeking advice on my non-existent love life with him.

I could answer some of the real questions you posed, but somehow I feel like you just want to break it down to me being immoral and MORE. I really JUST wanted to know why a guy that should be happy and is with their "choice" keeps trying to remain in my life.

But I do appreciate the response even if I'm questioning the content.

Why does his motivation matter to you so much? You know he is either playing games or he is in love with you still.

Because I want to know which one it is. I'm human, they whys matter to me. Some people don't need answers and can just keep it going. I like to understand the whys because that's the type of person I am. Maybe that's the Taurus in me.

Must be nice to never question life's little twists

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Well you only going to be able to get the WHY from him, not us.

Posted by TaurusVenGem

Posted by DMV
You said it yourself.

Youre not one pf his close female friends.

You were dating him 1st.

You used to have beef.

You do the contacting.

Why have you not moved on? Why have you not exited stage left?

Hes married.

He has a family.

You said it yourself. The relationship is not totally innocent.

What are you doing?

Why does this fawkboy even matter to you?

Why are you posting his cheating ways.?

Why are you still in the picture?

Do you lack.free will?

Are you on a deserted island with no one else to talk.to?

Why are you, a woman with he own life, keeping up with.his life?

Thats why i say you lack morals and conviction. Maybe youre bored..idk.

What are you doing having a not so innocent relationship with a married man?

In the past I did the contacting. Now if he doesn't hear from me he'll hit me up. But that's not important. I was just wondering what HIS motivation was for this. Not seeking advice on my non-existent love life with him.

I could answer some of the real questions you posed, but somehow I feel like you just want to break it down to me being immoral and MORE. I really JUST wanted to know why a guy that should be happy and is with their "choice" keeps trying to remain in my life.

But I do appreciate the response even if I'm questioning the content.

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Really just trying to understand from your own mouth why you are still in the picture and care so much.

I mean you are invested. No one can keep you around.

You STAY around.

This isnt a competition between u and her. He aint no prize.

Since youre here, we can ask you the "whys".

Posted by DMV
Since youre here, we can ask you the "whys".

I think I addressed it in another post but here are "the whys"

- because I'm naturally curious. When you know a person's motivation, it can assist with how to proceed.

- because he told me he married her because it was a good look.

- because she told me that they are more like friends and attempted to explain/defend his behavior from the earlier aspects of our relationship.

- because I want to know.

Someone mentioned karma - not you DMV - this is my thing. If the man I marry isn't thinking of ME in his interactions with women, and not protecting our bond and vows we made before God, my issue will be with him, because that is the person who is supposed to be considerate of my feelings. I don't place that responsibility on anyone else.

Ask yourself if you would befriend your man's ex to try to be manipulative? But I'm the bad person for just trying to understand what their angle and agenda is?

Also, I know he's not a prize, but that doesn't mean I don't want to know why he's trying to play games. Again, sags are supposed to be blunt and honest. If he doesn't care, why go through the process?

Neither of them mention loving each other. I'm just trying to get the point.

Are you in love with him

Yes i would be be friend his.ex if i felt. they still had something.going on.

I also befriend if i felt like the other women weren't going anywhere any time soon. I mean you've been in the mix for 10 years. Youre invested. If you cant beat em, join em.

I would hope that she would be honest with me and show me empathy. Since i dont feel like he is truthful, i will try to get it from the other women in his life.

Just maybe, one would finally tell me the truth. Even better, in hopes of me being vulnerable with these other women would see my side and champion my marriage instead of trying to break it up.

He cares about his well being only. If he cared about either of you like he did himself, he wouldn't bait you aganist each other.

Hed respect you as a human being.

Alas, takes 2 to tango and he enjoys his spot on top.

I say that its not only curiosity on your part becauae you take digs at her and their union.

I totally agree that the responsibility is his.

Totally.

But you know you can walk away, at any time.

From what you say, both of these saggisa are idiots.

If you are in a room with 2 idiots, there are 3 idiots in the room.

In short, hopefully the other women would just feel sorry for me

Posted by DMV
Are you in love with him

She might be in love with him... Which is understandable...

You gemini venus is making you stray....



He is married WAKE UP

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Posted by DMV
Are you in love with him

She might be in love with him... Which is understandable...

Still not understandable Imo even if she is in love with him. How can someone waste 10 years of their lives being in love with someone who chose someone else instead of you and has no feelings for you. That's just plain butter.... OP needs to move on... No wonder bulls get a bad rap for being dumb...

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I've read a few threads, in general you seem to have very strong anti feelings about bulls and sags. I haven't uncovered the thread with the reason why.

It's interesting to me that you would 1. say I've wasted 10 years of my life, as if I've paused life due to him and 2. say he has no feelings for me.

Again, he's not getting sex from me, so there is something else driving him to keep a woman close that he "has no feelings for"

he has access to a bunch of women.

DMV

I don't think I'm taking shots at her, facts are facts. When she was coming to me for advice about the situation, I never told her she should leave. I didn't try to steer her into cheating on him or any of the like. But as a woman, I think the idea that you should have to rely on someone OUTSIDE of your relationship to help it remain whole says a great deal about the situation.

As for if I'm in love with him, I don't think so. I have love for him but if I'm in love with him, he's in love with me.

Sometimes I feel like he hates that he has feelings for me, but he can't let go. It's like a weird obsession on both ends. For me, I think once I figure out the puzzle I'll be good.

She told me that every time she gets close to a woman he was flirting or dealing with, it's like he loses the thrill and leaves them alone. That's not what happens with me.

Sounds like youre in love.

Im all outta advice on this on. Going in circles. You wanna hear that he loves you. You love a married man. Im over it.

Morals of society are at an all time low.

Like Starlover said, do unto others...yadda yadda yadda

Posted by DMV
Sounds like youre in love.

Im all outta advice on this on. Going in circles. You wanna hear that he loves you. You love a married man. Im over it.

Morals of society are at an all time low.

Like Starlover said, do unto others...yadda yadda yadda

Thanks for the input. Not in love.

Still not vibing with your immoral jabs, but I can look myself in the mirror proudly.

Not one word about astrology, just "morals" I guess I picked the wrong board

Ugh. Why waste your life on someone who is taken.

Well, never mind. Carry on.

You're older, yet you're behaving like some trifling hoe with the mentality of a teenage girl. Jesus Christ, go live in a cave and stay away from the general public until you actually grow up.

As someone else said, stay away. You're kinda selfish and immature just for keeping this dude around because your vagina misses him. This sounds like why people were steering him away from you- even they knew you were no good.

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I understood your question. I believe he keeps circling, because it's what you are allowing. Apart of you wants to be with him, and I'm sure apart of him wants to be with you. But what it comes down to are the steps he is taking for you two to be together. Doesn't look like many if he cares that his wife knows nothing about you two. I don't think what he's doing is right, simply because it sounds like one HUGE game. Toying with you, and if you continue to allow it and play along, talk with his wife as you are her friend and nothing is going on between you and him, then NOTHING will ever change. You will be this "mistress" for him and a "therapist" for her. This kind of reminds me the movie "my best friends wedding". I think how she sees it as maybe as long as she makes good friends with you, she won't be led to believe you have anything going on with him. He is "Michael" you are Michaels ex fling "Julia Roberts" and she is "Kimmy". I hope you've seen that movie. If not watch it. Youll get the comparison. Keep him at a distance and eventually I would cut all ties.

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She has caught him cheating a bunch of times. His proposal to her was a result of a pregnancy scare with another woman. They found out the baby wasn't his 2 days before the wedding. She knows who she married.

If I had no morals I'd be having sex with him or something more. I guess I'm scaring the married folks

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WHY ARE YOU SO CONFUSED ABOUT HIS INTENTIONS THEN?? Jesus Christ.

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Posted by DMV
Sounds like youre in love.

Im all outta advice on this on. Going in circles. You wanna hear that he loves you. You love a married man. Im over it.

Morals of society are at an all time low.

Like Starlover said, do unto others...yadda yadda yadda

Thanks for the input. Not in love.

Still not vibing with your immoral jabs, but I can look myself in the mirror proudly.

Not one word about astrology, just "morals" I guess I picked the wrong board

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Astrology isn't going to answer this, you silly hoe. He's just being a douchebag who's "benching" you. Congrats, you're a potential side bitch and always have been. I bet that makes you feel magical, doesn't it?

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Posted by DMV
Sounds like youre in love.

Im all outta advice on this on. Going in circles. You wanna hear that he loves you. You love a married man. Im over it.

Morals of society are at an all time low.

Like Starlover said, do unto others...yadda yadda yadda

Thanks for the input. Not in love.

Still not vibing with your immoral jabs, but I can look myself in the mirror proudly.

Not one word about astrology, just "morals" I guess I picked the wrong board

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Sorry that you felt that way.

As far as astro,

I am a blunt sag whose just had enough of women not putting themselves first.

He is a selfish sag married to a sag naive idiot. Meanwhile there is a stubborn taurus who just cant move on.

Thats all the astro i got, really aint no need to go further.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
You're older, yet you're behaving like some trifling hoe with the mentality of a teenage girl. Jesus Christ, go live in a cave and stay away from the general public until you actually grow up.

As someone else said, stay away. You're kinda selfish and immature just for keeping this dude around because your vagina misses him. This sounds like why people were steering him away from you- even they knew you were no good.

if my vagina missed him, I'd have sex with him.Your entire breakdown is off. But you have limited info so you fill that in.

I'm a hoe for literally NOT having sex with someone. Weird.

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Posted by TxOgal
You gemini venus is making you stray....



He is married WAKE UP

This is the Taurus in her that wants an old love. Gemini Venus would have moved on...... like TEN years ago.

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That striked me! Im pretty much missing old love too that just feels weird realizing it just now...