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Have u ever slept with a Scorpio?
The first one we fooled around, didn't have sex though.
The second one, well, here's her idea of fun. She gets us both hot and warmed up and teases me which I thought was cool, no ones ever teased me like that before so I just went with it and just when she starts to take my pants off she gets up and walks out the door, leaving me laying there going wtf is this?
It's a sick form of mind control is what it is, and I will not stand for it.
How are you going to be a mentally healthy, emotionally person, and then pull a stunt like that?
It's because you're not mentally healthy.
Idk if I'd call that insane, but I wouldn't call it fun, either.
You're missing the point entirely. She was playing and testing to see what he would do. Would he chase? Pin her to the wall? Be creative? He failed the test.
THANK YOU!
It always boggles my mind how non water signs don't seem to understand the finer points of seduction and sexual games. ANYONE can just rip their clothes off and fuck. Hell, animals fuck. But to make the most of it, to truly anticipate and build up the tension you have to get creative.
Exactly why the rush? No teasing and anticipation of what's to come in the future? What if she's physically wanting him but her HEART is not into it? Her heart wants to be in it. Sex is not just a physical act of bumping and grinding to get off. It's supposed to be mind blowing because your emotions are in it. You are absolutely right even animals can screw. They don't need to chit chat. lol....I can't believe he was upset because a Scorpio wouldn't put out!
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Oh, even people can have the unemotional version and just have sex for the sake of it, but to me, and most water signs, adding the emotional connection is pure heaven! It's mind blowing and so much more. All the rest is like eating a cheap candy compared to the world's best dessert.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol
7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Posted by ryu8
alcoholics
Not all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
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Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
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We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
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Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
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Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
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Fair enough! Sort of a "find your addiction elsewhere" thing.
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
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Interesting. I'm a pure teetotaler. Never learned to like drinking and don't understand the big hairy deal about it.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow, I'm sorry you had to go through that. =/
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Thank you, but I have my kids and I've learned a lot about myself through the whole mess and am still learning. I also learned that I'm far stronger inside than I imagined. He didn't break me.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
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That it is and it wasn't the only way he was emotionally abusive. He's just a fucked up sack of human waste and the sad part is he has so much potential.
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Interesting. I'm a pure teetotaler. Never learned to like drinking and don't understand the big hairy deal about it.
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eh. Just surround yourself with the right people when you decide to
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow, I'm sorry you had to go through that. =/
Thank you, but I have my kids and I've learned a lot about myself through the whole mess and am still learning. I also learned that I'm far stronger inside than I imagined. He didn't break me.
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Being strong is priceless no one can take that from u
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Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Fair enough! Sort of a "find your addiction elsewhere" thing.
I prefer to avoid drinking altogether because of that. A glass of Moscato a couple times a year doesn't hurt though. You know what I mean Moonartist. 😉
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I only drink moscato as well
Posted by blisss
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Good for you! A controlling and verbally abusive husband is a huge issue and no one deserves to be married to that. I don't want to be inappropriate but.....Congratulations on the divorce. You got your groove back!
Oh, I've been so happy and relieved to not be with him and living on my own. When people find out I got a divorce I hear the inevitable "I'm so sorry". Don't be sorry! It was a great decision and I don't regret it at all!
This song pretty much embodied our relationship towards the end. When he'd go into rages for hrs at a time I would ignore him as much as possible while blaring this full blast.
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Fair enough! Sort of a "find your addiction elsewhere" thing.
I prefer to avoid drinking altogether because of that. A glass of Moscato a couple times a year doesn't hurt though. You know what I mean Moonartist. 😉
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I hear ya! Or expensive champagne! I rarely get drunk and don't drink that often. When I do get drunk I'm a riot of giggling, laughing hysterically, singing and in general over the top happy nuts.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow, I'm sorry you had to go through that. =/
Thank you, but I have my kids and I've learned a lot about myself through the whole mess and am still learning. I also learned that I'm far stronger inside than I imagined. He didn't break me.
Being strong is priceless no one can take that from u
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Exactly! I won't be repeating that mistake (marriage with a controlling bastard) again.
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Fair enough! Sort of a "find your addiction elsewhere" thing.
I prefer to avoid drinking altogether because of that. A glass of Moscato a couple times a year doesn't hurt though. You know what I mean Moonartist. 😉
I hear ya! Or expensive champagne! I rarely get drunk and don't drink that often. When I do get drunk I'm a riot of giggling, laughing hysterically, singing and in general over the top happy nuts.
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Sounds exactly like me! Lmao
Posted by ryu8
alcoholicsNot all! I know one who WON"T drink and never has, doesn't want to. Two that drink for fun. Of those...one might be a tiny bit of an alcoholic.
We either drink and don't stop, or we don't even start. SMFH haha
Interesting. I'm a pure teetotaler. Never learned to like drinking and don't understand the big hairy deal about it.
eh. Just surround yourself with the right people when you decide to
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No thanks. If I'm going to cut loose I'm going to be in control of just how loose I cut.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
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It's true and you can sue your spouse for it.
Posted by blisss
Let's get together and drink some wine! Chick flicks and horror movies?
I was thinking...we DO need a moscato club! Can I huggle on a stuffed animal or pillow for the horror flicks? They give me nightmares.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
It's true and you can sue your spouse for it.
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Huh, that would be entertaining! But isn't it a huge he said/she said? How does one even prove that in court?
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
It's true and you can sue your spouse for it.
Huh, that would be entertaining! But isn't it a huge he said/she said? How does one even prove that in court?
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It's not easy, but divorce cases are resolved based on the preponderance of evidence, not as high a standard of proof as, say, for a capital murder case. You'd just have to convince the judge and/or jury that it was "more likely true than not" that your spouse deprived you of consortium.
Posted by blisss
Let's get together and drink some wine! Chick flicks and horror movies?I was thinking...we DO need a moscato club! Can I huggle on a stuffed animal or pillow for the horror flicks? They give me nightmares.
I really liked the lyrics to "I am me once more".
& of course! You can bring a dozen teddy bears! & pillows! We need pillows and a blanket to shield our eyes. 😛
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Good point. Teddy bears make good shields but they won't hide what we can see!
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
It's true and you can sue your spouse for it.
Huh, that would be entertaining! But isn't it a huge he said/she said? How does one even prove that in court?
It's not easy, but divorce cases are resolved based on the preponderance of evidence, not as high a standard of proof as, say, for a capital murder case. You'd just have to convince the judge and/or jury that it was "more likely true than not" that your spouse deprived you of consortium.
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CA is a no fault state. I could literally have slept with 50 guys and the court wouldn't care. Not sure how that would work. Maybe civil court?
Moon Artist, it would depend on state or other local laws.
It bears some looking into.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
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But only when men do it, right? 😉
clever
Posted by Bsmurray
Aquarius is a fixed sign as well. More intellectual than emotional.There's actually a Scorpio girl at work who I enjoy talking to and we get along and help eachother out. It's definately not a romantic thing but it's worth mentioning because she is one of the first Scorpio women who hasn't gone sociopathic on me. She has a bf so that's probably where all her emotional energy is going towards.
I'm just glad it's not me.
Have u ever slept with a Scorpio?
The first one we fooled around, didn't have sex though.
The second one, well, here's her idea of fun. She gets us both hot and warmed up and teases me which I thought was cool, no ones ever teased me like that before so I just went with it and just when she starts to take my pants off she gets up and walks out the door, leaving me laying there going wtf is this?
It's a sick form of mind control is what it is, and I will not stand for it.
How are you going to be a mentally healthy, emotionally person, and then pull a stunt like that?
It's because you're not mentally healthy.
Idk if I'd call that insane, but I wouldn't call it fun, either.
You're missing the point entirely. She was playing and testing to see what he would do. Would he chase? Pin her to the wall? Be creative? He failed the test.
THANK YOU!
and if you do that kind of testing on a scorp...they go from zero to homicidal in under 60 seconds
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*very cold, interested look*
Do they?
*diabolical smile*
mystery.
Posted by ScorpioChica
Since we're talking kind of about sex, anyone wanna share the longest time frame of celibacy?
I'll go first, July 2013 Smdh lol7 yrs. Husband refused sex and any and all advances from me. He's Taurus. It would have been 10 yrs but we decided the oldest kid should have a sibling.
Wow that's amazing! How do u manage? without prying into ur life 😢
Well, since I'm not a prude and have an extremely active imagination and a love for expensive toys....I just took care of what I needed when I needed. Oh, and I got a divorce. He is also controlling and verbally abusive.
Great for u!!! Withholding sex is emotional abuse!
But only when men do it, right? 😉
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Hell no! Men should get just as much lavishly luxurious sex as women.
Posted by Bsmurray
Aquarius is a fixed sign as well. More intellectual than emotional.There's actually a Scorpio girl at work who I enjoy talking to and we get along and help eachother out. It's definately not a romantic thing but it's worth mentioning because she is one of the first Scorpio women who hasn't gone sociopathic on me. She has a bf so that's probably where all her emotional energy is going towards.
I'm just glad it's not me.
Have u ever slept with a Scorpio?
The first one we fooled around, didn't have sex though.
The second one, well, here's her idea of fun. She gets us both hot and warmed up and teases me which I thought was cool, no ones ever teased me like that before so I just went with it and just when she starts to take my pants off she gets up and walks out the door, leaving me laying there going wtf is this?
It's a sick form of mind control is what it is, and I will not stand for it.
How are you going to be a mentally healthy, emotionally person, and then pull a stunt like that?
It's because you're not mentally healthy.
Idk if I'd call that insane, but I wouldn't call it fun, either.
You're missing the point entirely. She was playing and testing to see what he would do. Would he chase? Pin her to the wall? Be creative? He failed the test.
THANK YOU!
and if you do that kind of testing on a scorp...they go from zero to homicidal in under 60 seconds
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That hasn't been my experience with them. Quite the opposite!
Posted by Bsmurray
Aquarius is a fixed sign as well. More intellectual than emotional.There's actually a Scorpio girl at work who I enjoy talking to and we get along and help eachother out. It's definately not a romantic thing but it's worth mentioning because she is one of the first Scorpio women who hasn't gone sociopathic on me. She has a bf so that's probably where all her emotional energy is going towards.
I'm just glad it's not me.
Have u ever slept with a Scorpio?
The first one we fooled around, didn't have sex though.
The second one, well, here's her idea of fun. She gets us both hot and warmed up and teases me which I thought was cool, no ones ever teased me like that before so I just went with it and just when she starts to take my pants off she gets up and walks out the door, leaving me laying there going wtf is this?
It's a sick form of mind control is what it is, and I will not stand for it.
How are you going to be a mentally healthy, emotionally person, and then pull a stunt like that?
It's because you're not mentally healthy.
Idk if I'd call that insane, but I wouldn't call it fun, either.
You're missing the point entirely. She was playing and testing to see what he would do. Would he chase? Pin her to the wall? Be creative? He failed the test.
THANK YOU!
and if you do that kind of testing on a scorp...they go from zero to homicidal in under 60 seconds
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Thank YOU, dimpz.
It sounds like she got up, walked out the front door and drove away.
Getting chased around the table is fun; taking the chase on the road is something else, altogether.
@enfant
w/holding only to control or punish someone is bitchy and low-- regardless of sex. 😉
I love this description! I'm an Aquarius sun/Scorp rising and I can definitely relate 🙂
I think I'm beginning to understand the conflict between water and air signs. Irresistible Scorp once commented that Scorpio is like a river current. I'd take it further to call some Scorps -- particularly mature, highly evolved Scorps -- an ocean.
Oceans are fully realized, immensely powerful ecosystems. They harbor and sustain vast quantities of life. They engulf 75% of the planet and they hold depths mankind has yet to discover.
They have absolute control to flood earth and to extinguish fire. But they can never successfully seize and hold the wind. Air is simply beyond their jurisdiction. This disturbs the ocean and amuses the wind, and leads to conflict (hurricane).
Forgot my quote :p
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I love this description! I'm an Aquarius sun/Scorp rising and I can definitely relate 🙂
Thanks so much! It's always cool when people "get it.". 🙂
Posted by Bsmurray
Aquarius is a fixed sign as well. More intellectual than emotional.There's actually a Scorpio girl at work who I enjoy talking to and we get along and help eachother out. It's definately not a romantic thing but it's worth mentioning because she is one of the first Scorpio women who hasn't gone sociopathic on me. She has a bf so that's probably where all her emotional energy is going towards.
I'm just glad it's not me.
Have u ever slept with a Scorpio?
The first one we fooled around, didn't have sex though.
The second one, well, here's her idea of fun. She gets us both hot and warmed up and teases me which I thought was cool, no ones ever teased me like that before so I just went with it and just when she starts to take my pants off she gets up and walks out the door, leaving me laying there going wtf is this?
It's a sick form of mind control is what it is, and I will not stand for it.
How are you going to be a mentally healthy, emotionally person, and then pull a stunt like that?
It's because you're not mentally healthy.
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She was laughing at you. Admit it.
Posted by geminicandIe
Yeah, thanks for support everyone🙂)Overall, I like scorpio women better than scorpio men. It is much easier to talk to them.
It's cause we're more emotional about certain topics than others 🙂 the men are egotistical assholes
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Hi!
It's a good think I have lava side seats reserved. WOOHOO!
Me too. ^
Posted by geminicandIe
Yeah, thanks for support everyone🙂)Overall, I like scorpio women better than scorpio men. It is much easier to talk to them.
It's cause we're more emotional about certain topics than others 🙂 the men are egotistical assholes
Hi!
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Did I hit the nail on the head?
Posted by IrresistableScorp
The ocean does not get disturbed by the wind. The wind only touches the surface of the ocean at a very superficial level. Ijs
What about a rainstorm then?
Im sure that the rain only goes where the wind makes it go.
And the hurricane simile was a good one. The wind/air definitely has the potential to stir up water.
So what if I failed her little test. She wanted me to choke her when we were hooking up. Yes, that right, CHOKE her. I almost made her pass out a couple of times because she liked it so much. We gave each other hickies, multiple times, in multiple places. I remember I had to go to work the next day after hanging out with her the previous night, and my neck was all marked up with hickies.
So you can't say that I wasn't getting kinky and experimental with her.
Creativity is good, especially in bed. Im all for that. What Im not okay with, is the mental tests and mind games that I pass/fail at when I don't even know Im playing them. If two people are at the point in their friendship/relationship where they are taking their clothes off and about to get dirty, if someone wants the other person to do something for them (example: push them up against the wall) then all they have to do is speak up and communicate that request!
Last thing I need to do is shove her up against the wall, and have it bring back bad memories or something and I end up getting smacked or even worse, ARRESTED.
I would have been happy to fulfill her sexual requests, no matter how kinky they were. (Hell, thats why I was lightly chocking her, even though I wasn't turned on by it at all, she was though)
So to say that I wasn't technically "up for the challenge" is bullshit.
Also side note, Im sorry that you had an abusive ex-husband. However 7 years of superficial sex is greater than 7 years of NO sex.
Posted by Bsmurray
I'm missing the part where she is being controlling here...From what I gathered, her grandma asked for something, and she responded no.
It does not take THAT much intellectual ability to be able to figure this one out. Where's my Scorpios and fellow Cancer at....
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Yeah she is definitely not controlling her at all by refusing to buy cigarettes. If anything, being mad that someone won't do something when you ask them to do it is a form of emotional manipulation and controlling.
The smoking grandma is an adult. She's of legal age to purchase cigarettes at a store. She can buy them herself.
Posted by geminicandIe
BS Murray, what you did was hot!!She is the one who lost out with petty games.
As a gemini, I would have handled it differently. In fact, I wouldn't stop talking, giving you verbal directions! Tee-hee😛
Lol, you sound like my girlfriend.
Annoying
Defensive.. 😛
Posted by Bsmurray
... So to say that I wasn't technically "up for the challenge" is bullshit.She was a little freaky but you, wow, you're so angry over something I find not worth getting so fired up about. So what...move on to the next female. These mind games you speak up don't sound serious, they were not meant to harm. Keep it movin. You sound aggressive though and that's scary. Not sure if you wanted to know that but thought I'd share. Best of luck to you.
Oh my, lol
I've got to put this here, as well
Posted by blisss
It always boggles my mind how non water signs don't seem to understand the finer points of seduction and sexual games. ANYONE can just rip their clothes off and fuck. Hell, animals fuck. But to make the most of it, to truly anticipate and build up the tension you have to get creative.You are absolutely right even animals can screw. They don't need to chit chat. lol....I can't believe he was upset because a Scorpio wouldn't put out!
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Stomping out of the house does not equate to foreplay for most people.
That some (myself, included!) think it's strange does not mean we approach the act, or the art of sex like dumb animals.
Fire signs are nothing, if not creative-- LEO rules the 5th, which is (if we're going to be technical) the house of pleasure & creativity.
Bind it with a water moon, and you get a creative, albeit hyper-sensitive, hedonist who would be pretty insulted with your review.
No offense, but it's an awfully unfair estimate of the rest of the elements in the zodiac.
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