Commitment phone Scorpio broke this Cancerian's heart

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I met a Scorpio guy, we had an instant chemistry, crazy attraction neither of us could control. I am a Cancer. This is the second time this has happened and the second time I ended up with my heart broken. So something needs to change and this is why I am reaching out.
Things got so heated that we ended up kissing when I was in a 3 year-long committed relationship (something that I am not proud of). Soon after, I broke up with my boyfriend with the hope of pursuing things with him. We started seeing each other, things moved very fast and I fell for him but he was not ready to commit, he still called me his friend, even though we were much more than that. I gave 100% to the relationship and did most of the chasing at that stage. I was the one who initiated dinners and catchups and the one who would message and wait for his response. One minute he would be really affectionate and warm and the next really distant. I also felt like he was constantly testing me, testing my loyalty, if I would remain faithful to him. I know that he has been betrayed and hurt in the past, he told me that his heart is closed and he is not prepared to love. I could not go on like this, so I gave him an ultimatum, I gave him a month to think about things, either we be in a relationship or nothing. I have a lot of respect for myself and was not prepared to be treated this way. But by pressuring him I think I pushed him away. He chose nothing, told me that he wanted to be single, to be free, to decide what he wants to do with his life. He also has to move back to his home country, he was studying English here. He was worried about his parents and missing home.

I was heart-broken. He seems to have extreme commitment issues and says that once he commits he commits for life. The thing that is making things worse is that he is generally a very flirty person. So when I see him flirt with other women, I think he has moved on, but sometimes it feels like he wants to make me jealous on purpose. A part of me feels like he still has feelings, I see him watching me closely at dance socials, he is a very jealous person. It is almost as if he is self-sabotaging because he feels like he is not worthy of love. He goes from one girl, to the next easily, but never committing, just making them fall for him and the moment things get intense he moves on. I think that he doesn't fully love himself, nor does he accept himself and all his faults. He is also a coward and runs away from his problems instead of facing them. He is very secretive and doesn't reveal much, so it is really hard to understand him and what he is feeling.

I know that the best thing for me to do would be to move on but I cannot get him out of my head. We broke up 3 months ago and still not a word from him. I messaged him a while back asking if we could meet to talk but he did not want to. Since then I have been blatantly ignoring him and running away any time I see him. Can anyone give my any insights or ad
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Posted by Reincarnation
Never chase a Scorpio man.
Never give a Scorpio man an ultimatum.

You did both. Typical Cardinal trait.

Sadly, I was also guilty of not feeling worthy enough to be loved. Always chased the women who didn't want me. Never really felt loved either. Until my current relationship, that is.
Why shouldnt you chase/give an ultimatum? Just curious.. Like what goes on on your mind when someone does this?
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Did you tell him he's a coward? Scorpios, what would happen if a Cancer told a scorpio they're a fucking coward (when it's true and he knows it)?
Me personally?

I'd give a shoulder shrug with a look of "Well shit.." and apologize.

I've never been one to lie when I'm in the wrong. To this day.. I can not lie to my parents. I'll be embarrassed of course, but to say that noone is a coward is ludicrous. I don't know many folks that won't lie in order to save face. It's just human natures.
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I suck at lying, too, and I hate doing it, so I just don't. It's easier that way. I wish everyone was truthful.
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U can't tell a scorpio what to do ever.

They don't bend for any ultimatum.

Plus his heart is in another country. You got to respect that.
Speaking of Cancer women bent over the counter..
Biatch.
You love scorp men. Don't deny it 🙂
Ya I kinda like it when he's angry at me too.
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A scorpio friend of mine picks fights with me because, as he says, "you're a scrapper and sometimes you need a good fight". He'll purposely play devils advocate and get into an argument, get my aries mars all hopping mad, and then get me to cool off after I've had a good argument. 😛
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Did you tell him he's a coward? Scorpios, what would happen if a Cancer told a scorpio they're a fucking coward (when it's true and he knows it)?
I have been in this scorpio's shoes, two years ago, with a cancer girl. She was telling me pretty often that I was a coward. I didn't much care, I was only becoming passive aggressive. My thesis was "ok, let's say I am a coward, so what? You want to be with that coward". She was saying all the time that I was disappointing her all the time. Finally, after much effort, she walked away when I was serving my military service. Good for her.
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Why was she calling you a coward? I called my friend a coward because I caught him in a lie, so I asked him a very blunt question: did you lie to me? He refused to answer, so I called him a fucking coward. Later, like a couple of days later, he tried to cover tracks and say he never lied. My gut instincts say he was lying.
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Did you tell him he's a coward? Scorpios, what would happen if a Cancer told a scorpio they're a fucking coward (when it's true and he knows it)?
I have been in this scorpio's shoes, two years ago, with a cancer girl. She was telling me pretty often that I was a coward. I didn't much care, I was only becoming passive aggressive. My thesis was "ok, let's say I am a coward, so what? You want to be with that coward". She was saying all the time that I was disappointing her all the time. Finally, after much effort, she walked away when I was serving my military service. Good for her.
Why was she calling you a coward? I called my friend a coward because I caught him in a lie, so I asked him a very blunt question: did you lie to me? He refused to answer, so I called him a fucking coward. Later, like a couple of days later, he tried to cover tracks and say he never lied. My gut instincts say he was lying.
She called me a coward because I was prefering another girl over her,every time 😛
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That's just weak and petty on her part. Yuck.
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U can't tell a scorpio what to do ever.

They don't bend for any ultimatum.

Plus his heart is in another country. You got to respect that.
Speaking of Cancer women bent over the counter..
Biatch.
You love scorp men. Don't deny it 🙂
Ya I kinda like it when he's angry at me too.
A scorpio friend of mine picks fights with me because, as he says, "you're a scrapper and sometimes you need a good fight". He'll purposely play devils advocate and get into an argument, get my aries mars all hopping mad, and then get me to cool off after I've had a good argument. 😛
fucking Scorpios, honestly... that’s my job! They’re the only ones that can manage to turn that shit around.. makes me wanna punch them and fuck them at the same time.
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I thought it was funny as hell when he admitted what he had done. We had an hr long argument, and he was feeling pretty smug the whole time. Well played, Scorpio, well played.
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That's the thing! It's the smugness, like don't out smug me, you ass

They play very well, yes.. I like the power dynamic with my Aries bits, so it's all in good fun honestly, but one of these days.. straight to the moon!
I can admit he out-smugs me most of the time. I can be smug when he thinks he's hiding himself, but I already know what's going on in his head, but it goes both ways, and he's a much better game player than I am, and I don't mean the immature mean games, just strategy in general. I'm too rogue to have strategy. 😛
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That's the thing! It's the smugness, like don't out smug me, you ass

They play very well, yes.. I like the power dynamic with my Aries bits, so it's all in good fun honestly, but one of these days.. straight to the moon!
I can admit he out-smugs me most of the time. I can be smug when he thinks he's hiding himself, but I already know what's going on in his head, but it goes both ways, and he's a much better game player than I am, and I don't mean the immature mean games, just strategy in general. I'm too rogue to have strategy. 😛
Most of the time, not always.. livin for those wins lol 😛

They can hold out way longer than me, I’ll give them that.. and even if I think I know, I don’t really know, and they know that, and they love it.. so annoying. Loyal tho, so I let it slide..
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But I do know! And that's what makes the smug crack a wee bit. BWAHAHAHAHA!! All of my loads of cardinal bits enjoys the whole thing. Or maybe my cardinal bits are brats. Either way...... 😄
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That's the thing! It's the smugness, like don't out smug me, you ass

They play very well, yes.. I like the power dynamic with my Aries bits, so it's all in good fun honestly, but one of these days.. straight to the moon!
I can admit he out-smugs me most of the time. I can be smug when he thinks he's hiding himself, but I already know what's going on in his head, but it goes both ways, and he's a much better game player than I am, and I don't mean the immature mean games, just strategy in general. I'm too rogue to have strategy. 😛
Most of the time, not always.. livin for those wins lol 😛

They can hold out way longer than me, I’ll give them that.. and even if I think I know, I don’t really know, and they know that, and they love it.. so annoying. Loyal tho, so I let it slide..
But I do know! And that's what makes the smug crack a wee bit. BWAHAHAHAHA!! All of my loads of cardinal bits enjoys the whole thing. Or maybe my cardinal bits are brats. Either way...... 😄
lmao

Takes them bloody forever to just admit their stand, and it is usually what I was thinking in the first place.. Why they gotta be so difficult for?

I’m Fixed dominant, with Mutable second.. I suspect DMVs post above holds weight for me… *runs away with my Fix-ed-ness*
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I'm cardinal dominant with fixed coming in second....and very little mutable. My cardinalness loves poking and nudging at the fixedness, and my fixedness won't let me stop. 😛
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no man is a commitment phobe, they just didnt want to commit to you.
got to say I don;t agre with this. I think most men, when they pick a wife, were at least in part mostly "ready" to be looking for that. if you meet someone who is NOT looking for that (especially a moody and dark Scorp) then they are not likely to give the relationship enough of a chance to even discover what might be because they decided before you began. Of course there are exceptions, but timing is everything.

That said...being "scared" of commitment is one thing...but to say this is an excuse for treating a woman badly and having her running around pitying him is bull shit. I've never seen a man "too scared of intimacy" that was "too scared for sex" - and that's as intimate as stuff gets. What they are saying really is that they don't want a relationship right now an they are happy with being anti-ccommitment.

If someone is seriously scared of intimacy (and some people are genuinely due to past pain or childhood) then it is not good enough to say "I am a commitment phobe, you can have half a relationship". What is correct is to see it as a problem and go get therapy and stay the hck out of someone's life untl you can treat them like they deserve!

the trouble with commitment shy people is that they feat closeness, being tied down or choosing the wrong mate- but they miss intimacy - so they in effect use people
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U can't tell a scorpio what to do ever.

They don't bend for any ultimatum.

Plus his heart is in another country. You got to respect that.
Speaking of Cancer women bent over the counter..
Biatch.
You love scorp men. Don't deny it 🙂
Ya I kinda like it when he's angry at me too.
A scorpio friend of mine picks fights with me because, as he says, "you're a scrapper and sometimes you need a good fight". He'll purposely play devils advocate and get into an argument, get my aries mars all hopping mad, and then get me to cool off after I've had a good argument. 😛
Ya I guess my aries bits like a bit of passion here and there.

Sometimes when we argue he tells me to go to bed right after. Haha
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Hopefully that's a "go to bed" for a romp in the sheets, not a "go to bed" because he's had too much of the aries bits arguing 😆
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Posted by Reincarnation
Never chase a Scorpio man.
Never give a Scorpio man an ultimatum.

You did both. Typical Cardinal trait.

Sadly, I was also guilty of not feeling worthy enough to be loved. Always chased the women who didn't want me. Never really felt loved either. Until my current relationship, that is.
I think a lot of Cancer women have a hard time figuring out how to deal with their feminine mystic and how to use their sexual allure on a man.

Usually if a woman chases a man it's because she wants what is not into her on the same level.
This could mean she has a lot of masculine placements in her chart to not understand the feminine aspects of her nature.

If a man is INTO you, he would become the ultimate bugaboo.
Calling, texting, showing up on your doorstep when you have curlers in your hair.

I don't recall ever giving an ultimatum.
Logic would suggest it's offensive, selfish and confrontational.

But chasing or initiating definitely yes.
And that is for two reasons, Cancer is Cardinal and my Mars is in Aries.
Even though I can be very shy with the men I like; I would find a way to get his attention.

Now that I am older, wiser and slower; I am not chasing ANYONE!
Chasing men reverses the gender role, which would make things very uncomfortable for a Cancer woman.
I need to be the feminine energy and him to be the masculine energy.

Men have more muscle for a reason, they are built to chase.