Help with moody-stressed Scorp man!! Please

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Hi - I'm new and I would love any advice for help in understanding Scorpio men.
My situation is this: I am in a long distance relationship with a Scorpio man. He lives in Ireland and I'm in Texas. We have been "together" since Jan 2014. And I've flown over twice to see him. He told me he loved me about three weeks after we began talking. And wooed me completely!! During our first few months, my Mother was going through chemotherapy and died and he was there for me anytime day or night. I could call and talk and he was so supportive. We have a plan to be with each other and have spoken of our future together. He plans to come over here, since the job market is better and then save up our money to move back to Ireland.
He was laid off last March and has been unable to find anything but a part-time government sponsored job that pays next to nothing. (Ireland is still going through a recession). This is causing him to be very stressed - which I totally understand, he has a teenage daughter who lives with her Mum, but his long term unemployment is humiliating for him.
He can't easily come here, because money is needed to get a Visa and all the government paperwork, etc.
He gets very distant, then will come back like his old self. I told him this past Saturday that I feel he is pulling away and that I'm unimportant to him - in a very calm way - and he said that he has been tired and is still looking for a job. But he didn't reassure me - I'm sorry if I sound extra needy, but we are far away and only can really chat by skype once a week and his texts have tapered off - HE says because he doesn't want to text me unless he knows I have time to chat AND he is tired in the evenings (the job he does is very physically demanding and we are both in our 40s).
So the next day, we skype again and he went on about how men don't talk about their feelings and don't share their fears and worries and sometimes, he just wants quiet and women want to talk all the time and he said "I'm just giving you some insight into male behaviour". It wasn't an angry tirade, but it hurt my feelings. (I'm highly sensitive). We didn't talk long, because I could tell he wasn't in the mood and was about to eat dinner).
Should I leave him alone, not initiate any contact and wait for him to contact me? I feel hurt, and my first instinct is to show more attention and affection to make him feel better. This hasn't been working so far, so here I am....needing help DESPERATE
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My goodness. I swear I be going through it with the Scorpio I’m dating, then I come on here and I feel I haven’t even BEGAN to feel the wrath of what this little joker could really do.lol.
I’m not laughing at your pain, but I definitely can relate. Me and my guy aren’t exclusive yet, but he does this as well.

We can have an awesome weekend together, or I’ll see him one day and he’ll be all over me telling me he missed me and being super affectionate, the next minute he’s there but not really. It’s like he’s not gone but he’s not really present either.

The first time he started pulling away, I had something to do with it i admit , and he definitely stung me back for it, HARD. Then he came back like he never stung me, and I did what he did, I wasn’t ignoring him but I wasn’t exactly paying him any attention either because I was pissed! I was calm and not really available. Sweet but not lovey dovey, it made him want me more again.
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The second time, I let him know how his distant behavior made me feel, and told me almost EXACTLY what yours told you. He’s stressed, and dips off into his thoughts and plans that he wants to execute and it bothers him a great deal that he hasn’t made any REAL moves in his life, as he put it. At first he was tight lipped, but when I loosened up he started to spill. I calmly let him know I’m not trying to add to his worries, I just want to know he cares. He gave me a bit of crazy look and said “Of course I care! That’s why I’m here.”

Now that he’s pulling away again, it bothers me the same amount as it did the first two times, but the best thing you can do is listen to the words coming out of his mouth, reassure him that you are not going to bail just because he needs a little thinking space, and then go on about your business. I understand your situation is double whamy because he lives in another country, but trust this sign loves very hard, and are very loyal when they are certain the other person loves and are loyal back. If you don’t cross him, he wont sting you. If you don’t push him, he wont sting you. If you don’t try to figure him out, he wont shut you out and then yes…sting you. lol. Just be cool, and be strong. When dealing with a scorpio man think, STRONG, SEXY, AND SWEET. Most of all STRONG. I swear you have to be strong. They have enough going on. A needy, whinning, clingy woman will drive him nuts!
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Thank you Lyse!! It really does help to know that there are other moody Scorpio men out there. And you are going through almost the same thing, I am so sorry for that. I wouldn't wish the feelings I'm going through on anyone!!! I will try and just act normal and contact him this weekend. He used to pursue me, but somewhere along the way - I began to be the one doing the majority of the contacting and I have no effing idea how that happened, lol. And of course, I would never dump a guy just because he lost his job.

Thank you so much for your advice. I will be strong and not let anything bother me and realise that if he gets upset or cranky then it's not me - and I shouldn't take it personally.

Wish me luck.
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Thank you Lyse!! It really does help to know that there are other moody Scorpio men out there. And you are going through almost the same thing, I am so sorry for that. I wouldn't wish the feelings I'm going through on anyone!!! I will try and just act normal and contact him this weekend. He used to pursue me, but somewhere along the way - I began to be the one doing the majority of the contacting and I have no effing idea how that happened, lol. And of course, I would never dump a guy just because he lost his job.

Thank you so much for your advice. I will be strong and not let anything bother me and realise that if he gets upset or cranky then it's not me - and I shouldn't take it personally.

Wish me luck.
Best wishes hun! And yea it will be fine. I'm not saying act like a zombie and let him get away with everything. No way. But judging by what you've described he's upset about things that has nothing to do with you. If you pressure him too much he may break things off feeling as though he cant make you happy. So thats why i say dont push a man when he's down.lol. Dont do too much either. Just relax. I probably wouldn't contact him though except to say good morning, or goodnight other than that i'd let him take the lead. At somepoint he'll think "Where's my baby?" lol
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I swear I've been going through this push/pull bs. You love them because their charming but hate their lack of communication or mixed messages.
When I couldn't take it anymore, I just stopped talking to him.

Thing is money, masculinity and the ability to protect and love is very important to them. Their ego and self esteem is fragile and while they understand the importance of relaxation and pleasure, they can be abrasive. This is most men, regardless of sign
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Oh, also Lyse - I left out this part. As we were about to hang up on skype - he told me "I'll talk to you when I talk to you". wtf—? And the day before we were laughing and talking about when he is living here and what he wants to do when he gets here! I swear, he is more moody than I am and I'm a Libra.
HA! Libra meets Libra! I'm Libra too! lol. No wonder i understand you so well.

My scorp said something similar one time after our date. He was getting out, he gave me a kiss and said, "Alright, i see you whenever i guess." and i just smiled sweetly, but i was like wtf you mean "whenever" that sounds like "forever" no no no. lol. But leave to us to pick and choose how to approach a possible disagreement, gotta wiegh the pros and cons first. lol. I dont know about you, but if i can get pass it i dont bring it up.
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Hi Livictori - Thank you for responding. That is good advice about most men being abrasive and uncommunicative. When I asked him once why he didn't text as much as he used to he said "because I'm not a twelve year old girl". I know my problem is that I'm too sensitive and emotional. I wish I could be tougher.
It's worse for me because I'm needy and I hate it. My Aries in Venus makes me demanding. My Leo moon makes me want praise and attention. My Pisces sun makes me extra giving and nurturing but my libra rising makes me see and feel both sides. Essentially, I'm a perpetual school girl with an elusive crush.

No Bueno
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Oh, Livictori - it's hard being needy. I have low-self esteem and it makes me want constant affirmation, which I don't believe even when I get it. Having that Pisces must be very hard, Pisces feel everything, they are like sponges and soak up everything around them. You sure have a grab bag of signs! Two fire signs, a water and an air sign! And Aries and Libra being bossy cardinal signs!! I bet you feel calm, then have a hair trigger temper, but can be detached enough from your anger to be rational.
I'm a LIbra sun-Libra rising-Libra in Venus with a Taurus moon. And with all my up and down mood swings it's hard for me to remain calm. The only person who could ever get me to calm down was my Mum and she died last year...so when I get upset, irrational, hurt - I end up taking the train to Crazy Town and I ride it to the last stop.
It seems that men have the advantage, since society basically forces them to hide their feelings. while we're allowed to show ours and it makes it harder to be in control in a relationship. At least, in my opinion.
But I thank you for your insight and conversation. It's been nice to get feedback from people and not think I'm a cuckoo-bird.
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This is only going to work because you are clinging onto it. Nothing more. You admit you have no self esteem. If you took the time to address that, you could come back to this thread and realize just how ridiculous you are, not to mention A WASTE OF LIFE.

All because YOU have problems.