Scorpios and Double Standards

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I know there are some people on here who will get their panties in a wad over this post, but I seriously want to know...

I know this does not apply to every Scorp. However, this applies to every Scorp I know, and I know quite a few:

Why do Scorpios seem to have strict standards for what is acceptable in a relationship, but don't want to follow their own rules? Basically, double standards. My ex, for instance, gets extreeeemely jealous and paranoid about anyone male who communicates with me. Yet, he engages in what I would consider (and he would DEFINITELY consider) inappropriate interactions with close female friends. They're just a little TOO close. One of his female friends is also a Scorpio, and she is very flirtatious with him, and she is married. If her husband ever did that to her, her head would roll.

My sister is also a Scorpio and used to go ballistic if her husband glanced at a female, yet she was extremely close to her male co-worker and would text him (too much for comfort). She also admits that Scorpios will get angry and want you to talk to them and be nice, but don't expect them to be nice or talk back. But, if you ice out a Scorpio, watch out. There are other examples of her arguing style that she straight up admits she knows aren't fair, but "that's just the way we were made."

So, my question is--

For those of you who have double standards (dig deep, now), do you know and not care? Or do you know and don't know how to control it? If you recognize it, why do you do it? Is it insecurity in needing that extra attention from others, but you don't like it when your person does the same?

This is an anonymous message board. Be honest. I can't figure you guys out to save my life.

Also, for those of you who are "evolved" Scorps, what's the best way to address this double standard issue with a Scorpio? You guys can also get defensive as hell.

Thank you for the serious and honest responses.
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It's also very immature, because you should try to better yourself if you recognize there's something that's not good in you. We all have bad traits. I have plenty. The difference between my ex, my sister and me is that when I see something that's not attractive, I work really hard to change it. My sister's attitude is, "that's just how I am; I can't help it." I tell her, "Yes, you can, you just don't want to." She never likes that response. My ex works on things when he is in the mood to change. I call that half-ass. He wouldn't want a half-ass attempt from me.
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Posted by TachibanaSan
i would simply ask

would they like it if

their mates behave

like they do and why?

make a scorpio think

and see his own ways.
Thank you. I've tried this, and it usually works...if he doesn't cut me off and get all pissy first. He will kind of go back to some of the same behaviors, though.

I guess I just don't know how to get it to stick in his mind to think that BEFORE he acts. He says he does, but he's not consistent with it. It's only when he's getting paranoid about males around me that he seems to be cautious about his own actions. I am the most loyal person you can meet. He knows he has nothing to worry about. SIGH. It's exhausting.
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Okay, you guys are admitting to it, but not saying WHY.

I'm sure you are lovely people with a lot of amazing qualities. I love my ex and I love my sister dearly. But, good God, that is SUCH an ugly trait to have--not to be proud of.
We are being facetious.
I HOPE SO. I'm sure not all of you would be, though.
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No, a lot are assholes like you described.
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Okay, you guys are admitting to it, but not saying WHY.

I'm sure you are lovely people with a lot of amazing qualities. I love my ex and I love my sister dearly. But, good God, that is SUCH an ugly trait to have--not to be proud of.
We are being facetious.
I HOPE SO. I'm sure not all of you would be, though.
No, a lot are assholes like you described.
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WHY? I really just want to understand it. It's so foreign to me to be an asshole, especially when you KNOW you're being unfair and continue to do it and not want to change. Placing myself in someone else's shoes is the first thing I ever do. Why that's so hard to do for some people, I don't understand.
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Okay, you guys are admitting to it, but not saying WHY.

I'm sure you are lovely people with a lot of amazing qualities. I love my ex and I love my sister dearly. But, good God, that is SUCH an ugly trait to have--not to be proud of.
We are being facetious.
I HOPE SO. I'm sure not all of you would be, though.
No, a lot are assholes like you described.
WHY? I really just want to understand it. It's so foreign to me to be an asshole, especially when you KNOW you're being unfair and continue to do it and not want to change. Placing myself in someone else's shoes is the first thing I ever do. Why that's so hard to do for some people, I don't understand.

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Hell if I know. I am a Libra dominant Scorpio. So fair is fair. It may annoy me, but I can't really say shit if I am not living by what I am demanding, can I?
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I have no idea cause I'm not possessive like that.


Good for you! I think an evolved Scorpio would be one of the best people to be in a relationship with. My friend is married to one who doesn't exhibit any of this crazy behavior, and she is so smitten. With the experience I've had, I won't touch another Scorp with a 10 foot pole. ha
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lol even in the past I mean I'd get jealous but not overly jealous.
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i would simply ask

would they like it if

their mates behave

like they do and why?

make a scorpio think

and see his own ways.
Thank you. I've tried this, and it usually works...if he doesn't cut me off and get all pissy first. He will kind of go back to some of the same behaviors, though.

I guess I just don't know how to get it to stick in his mind to think that BEFORE he acts. He says he does, but he's not consistent with it. It's only when he's getting paranoid about males around me that he seems to be cautious about his own actions. I am the most loyal person you can meet. He knows he has nothing to worry about. SIGH. It's exhausting.
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Okay, you guys are admitting to it, but not saying WHY.

I'm sure you are lovely people with a lot of amazing qualities. I love my ex and I love my sister dearly. But, good God, that is SUCH an ugly trait to have--not to be proud of.
We are being facetious.
I HOPE SO. I'm sure not all of you would be, though.
No, a lot are assholes like you described.
WHY? I really just want to understand it. It's so foreign to me to be an asshole, especially when you KNOW you're being unfair and continue to do it and not want to change. Placing myself in someone else's shoes is the first thing I ever do. Why that's so hard to do for some people, I don't understand.

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Because they like being assholes. No other reason. Everyone can help what they are if they want to. It takes time, and work, and sometimes guidance from outside sources. If they're content with being the way they are, to Hell with them.

Do yourself a favor and stay away.
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So, my question is--

For those of you who have double standards (dig deep, now), do you know and not care? Or do you know and don't know how to control it? If you recognize it, why do you do it? Is it insecurity in needing that extra attention from others, but you don't like it when your person does the same?

This is an anonymous message board. Be honest. I can't figure you guys out to save my life.

Also, for those of you who are "evolved" Scorps, what's the best way to address this double standard issue with a Scorpio? You guys can also get defensive as hell.

Thank you for the serious and honest responses.
I used to have them alot but now I have managed to overcome most of them. Some of them still remains and I don't care lol. The best way to address I guess is by first talking about it in a cool way like it's no big deal, let them realize it first if they haven't. Then you understand how much they want to improve by their change. Try telling them right away when that happens and not by making a list of what they did in the past....
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@Neno2, I don't think my ex would ever cheat either. But, it still hurts that he does things that don't make me happy/things he would hate if I did. Do you do things you know you wouldn't want your wife or gf to do, but don't necessarily consider cheating? Because if you do, that's still wrong. lol

@Petals, thank you. I think having an outside person to also point out the behavior is key.

If my ex ever comes around, my plan is to say--I don't want to have a relationship until we go to counseling, and we can go together, but no as a couple. I need to see that he will change. He changes for a while, but then reverts back to his old behavior. I'm almost certain it's all due to his insecurities. I cannot change that in him. It's going to take a professional.

There's something I have seen since we were apart that bothers me. If he comes back, should I wait to bring it up in therapy so he doesn't get defensive?
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i would simply ask

would they like it if

their mates behave

like they do and why?

make a scorpio think

and see his own ways.
y u always commenting in stanzas

it aint unique its weird
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when did i say unique?

you gave opinion so

now what happens?

am i to stop it now?

no, i choose to be me.

arigatou gozaimasu.
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—i used to make my gf so jealous and i annoyed her but that actually helped the relationship to not get bored

Scorpios like heavy emotions and nothing is better as silence after the storm?make up with a gf is the best

She made fun of me,i made fun of her,fights always?best relationship


See, my ex always says I love to fight (I don't), yet he starts the majority of our arguments and takes FOREVER to get over something. I think he actually DOES like to fight, but I don't even think he realizes it. I've always wondered if he likes the passion involved in drowning in his sorrows without me, and then the passion of coming back and making up. To me, it's exhausting af and someone stable seems more exciting. lol When things are good with my ex and me, we never get bored. The passion is always there. I really don't get why he wants to break us apart from time to time. Dude needs therapy.
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i would simply ask

would they like it if

their mates behave

like they do and why?

make a scorpio think

and see his own ways.
y u always commenting in stanzas

it aint unique its weird
worry about yourself.

focus on your speech

and terrible grammar.

i am so surprised you

know what a stanza is.

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got u in yo feels girl
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Posted by thelightsgoon
Posted by TachibanaSan
i would simply ask

would they like it if

their mates behave

like they do and why?

make a scorpio think

and see his own ways.
y u always commenting in stanzas

it aint unique its weird
worry about yourself.

focus on your speech

and terrible grammar.

i am so surprised you

know what a stanza is.


got u in yo feels girl
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i dont need to feel

to point out idiocy.
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Okay, I need some Scorpio perspective again.

In the past few months of being back together, my ex has still respected my feelings (other than going silent) while we were apart. I've noticed that change in him. Before, I felt like he would suddenly stop caring, based on his actions.

This time, after saying he is done, he has been more like he was in the past. I've noticed him doing some things he knows would hurt me if I saw them. What is the deal? It's obviously a choice if he managed to respect my feelings weeks ago, but isn't now.

Is he trying to make me jealous? Is he trying to hurt me? What is the purpose of doing things you know will hurt the other person? I know he didn't go from loving me for four years to having no feelings, so why act like that?
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Posted by quickquestion
I know there are some people on here who will get their panties in a wad over this post, but I seriously want to know...

I know this does not apply to every Scorp. However, this applies to every Scorp I know, and I know quite a few:

Why do Scorpios seem to have strict standards for what is acceptable in a relationship, but don't want to follow their own rules? Basically, double standards. My ex, for instance, gets extreeeemely jealous and paranoid about anyone male who communicates with me. Yet, he engages in what I would consider (and he would DEFINITELY consider) inappropriate interactions with close female friends. They're just a little TOO close. One of his female friends is also a Scorpio, and she is very flirtatious with him, and she is married. If her husband ever did that to her, her head would roll.

My sister is also a Scorpio and used to go ballistic if her husband glanced at a female, yet she was extremely close to her male co-worker and would text him (too much for comfort). She also admits that Scorpios will get angry and want you to talk to them and be nice, but don't expect them to be nice or talk back. But, if you ice out a Scorpio, watch out. There are other examples of her arguing style that she straight up admits she knows aren't fair, but "that's just the way we were made."

So, my question is--

For those of you who have double standards (dig deep, now), do you know and not care? Or do you know and don't know how to control it? If you recognize it, why do you do it? Is it insecurity in needing that extra attention from others, but you don't like it when your person does the same?

This is an anonymous message board. Be honest. I can't figure you guys out to save my life.

Also, for those of you who are "evolved" Scorps, what's the best way to address this double standard issue with a Scorpio? You guys can also get defensive as hell.

Thank you for the serious and honest responses.
I totally feel you on scorps being hypocritical. I fell in love with a Scorpio and she was always seeking and soaking up attention from mother fuckers who mean shit to her. I never understood it until one of my now best friends who are a Scorpio explained to me her needing validation from others to feel good about herself. I'm totally the opposite in not giving a fuck about anyone else's opinion but hers. So I finally learned to accept her neediness and love her from a distance. I saw thru her bull shit and she couldn't handle that but always found her way back wanting to be my friend. She always would tell me I'm a good person as if I needed her validation to know I'm a good person. I hated when she would say it because I know what the fuck I am. But anyhoo scorpios are extremely too much to deal with. When I wanna be light and have fun they wanna be dark and depressing. I stay away from that.
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Part two of the double standards behavior will be vindictive. You might have hurt their feelings in someway or they found out you lied to them and they just shut down and turn off their 100% loyal button. We are the signs of extreme after all. Once we begin to mirror the partner so they can see how we feel then someone creates a forum like this asking why are we acting like hypocrites ?. Easy we trust ourselves more than we trust the partner and the relationship will run its course from there. When we are truly in love and feel our partner gives us the same in return there is no double standards.
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It's also very immature, because you should try to better yourself if you recognize there's something that's not good in you. We all have bad traits. I have plenty. The difference between my ex, my sister and me is that when I see something that's not attractive, I work really hard to change it. My sister's attitude is, "that's just how I am; I can't help it." I tell her, "Yes, you can, you just don't want to." She never likes that response. My ex works on things when he is in the mood to change. I call that half-ass. He wouldn't want a half-ass attempt from me.
Hon, there is no answer to your question.

Really. If you can't stand it - leave because you can't do nothing about it.

When you dealing with them - you accept them the way they are or you walk.

If you'll nag - they walk.

YOU CANT CHANGE A SCORPIO!

And they do know it. They smart. And yes they are this way...here we are back to square 1!

@evoxxxscorpio2 (say something...)
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It's also very immature, because you should try to better yourself if you recognize there's something that's not good in you. We all have bad traits. I have plenty. The difference between my ex, my sister and me is that when I see something that's not attractive, I work really hard to change it. My sister's attitude is, "that's just how I am; I can't help it." I tell her, "Yes, you can, you just don't want to." She never likes that response. My ex works on things when he is in the mood to change. I call that half-ass. He wouldn't want a half-ass attempt from me.
Hon, there is no answer to your question.

Really. If you can't stand it - leave because you can't do nothing about it.

When you dealing with them - you accept them the way they are or you walk.

If you'll nag - they walk.

YOU CANT CHANGE A SCORPIO!

And they do know it. They smart. And yes they are this way...here we are back to square 1!

@evoxxxscorpio2 (say something...)
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It's also very immature, because you should try to better yourself if you recognize there's something that's not good in you. We all have bad traits. I have plenty. The difference between my ex, my sister and me is that when I see something that's not attractive, I work really hard to change it. My sister's attitude is, "that's just how I am; I can't help it." I tell her, "Yes, you can, you just don't want to." She never likes that response. My ex works on things when he is in the mood to change. I call that half-ass. He wouldn't want a half-ass attempt from me.
Hon, there is no answer to your question.

Really. If you can't stand it - leave because you can't do nothing about it.

When you dealing with them - you accept them the way they are or you walk.

If you'll nag - they walk.

YOU CANT CHANGE A SCORPIO!

And they do know it. They smart. And yes they are this way...here we are back to square 1!

@evoxxxscorpio2 (say something...)
lol right again
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Am I ready to write a book or what?
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It's also very immature, because you should try to better yourself if you recognize there's something that's not good in you. We all have bad traits. I have plenty. The difference between my ex, my sister and me is that when I see something that's not attractive, I work really hard to change it. My sister's attitude is, "that's just how I am; I can't help it." I tell her, "Yes, you can, you just don't want to." She never likes that response. My ex works on things when he is in the mood to change. I call that half-ass. He wouldn't want a half-ass attempt from me.
Hon, there is no answer to your question.

Really. If you can't stand it - leave because you can't do nothing about it.

When you dealing with them - you accept them the way they are or you walk.

If you'll nag - they walk.

YOU CANT CHANGE A SCORPIO!

And they do know it. They smart. And yes they are this way...here we are back to square 1!

@evoxxxscorpio2 (say something...)
lol right again
Am I ready to write a book or what?
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lol it's true you can never change a Scorpio. A Scorpio will only change on their own terms.