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why do we fight over insignificant things like money, land, power status and greed and kill and hurt others i wouldn't be able to live with myself if i killed another human being

How come we can't all love one another and live in peace and harmony

I ask myself these things everyday

I know good and evil is real but i believe one day the world will be peaceful one day
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it appears you are either young and naive or just plain stupid pal

true equality is metaphysically impossible, an illusion of equality takes away freedom

generally speaking, war are fought for the best interest of a tribe or nation, once diplomacy has given no results

overall however, the world over, standard of living improves today over yesterday and you can say this every day!

thats right every day is better then the day before

its all natural evolution

quit complaining and start aiming

gl guy
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why do we fight over insignificant things like money, land, power status and greed and kill and hurt others i wouldn't be able to live with myself if i killed another human being

How come we can't all love one another and live in peace and harmony

I ask myself these things everyday

I know good and evil is real but i believe one day the world will be peaceful one day




I agree with the virgo-guy. All of these things are unimportant except for land. Land is important. I would fight for my land if somebody tried to steal it from me. Land is freedom. look at the poor palestinians. I sure as hell understand why they??re fighting!

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That's true but why people fight for land so they can claim it for themselves and make it into a profit it's greed more land equals money to cash in you can even see that in American history how this country was build war, hate, greed, power etc
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shocker

they are simply not an independent "people". They are poor displaced unwanted, by their own, arabs, mainly Egyptians and Jordinians

People like to point out that Israel intruded, but forget the Ottoman Empire was all there was before, it covered the whole area

no individual nations.

the Jews came and turned a relatively uninhabited, desolate, dry area and turned it into a living breathing organic farm.

lets call them Palestinians for a moment, they starve to death without Israel, literally





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Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
why do we fight over insignificant things like money, land, power status and greed and kill and hurt others i wouldn't be able to live with myself if i killed another human being How come we can't all love one another and live in peace and harmony I ask myself these things everyday I know good and evil is real but i believe one day the world will be peaceful one day

Ur on the wrong boards my brother they won't understand they crave power over people. but what they don't know is power is an illsioun no one has power over no one. it mignt seem like that on a superfical level but its not true.. the one power we have is sacrifice.. when u care for ur fellow man. sum say they sacrifice but its not true.. if u think u need sum one to return the favor.. ur not truely a kind person.. a true kind person does this not to build there ego but to help them self and there fellow man. if u want praise for the good u do... u are the slave so u have no power..mybe the pisces people can understand hummm.
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youtube? its easy to find hit pieces that are anti Israeli, I could find a bunch too

solid, look pal, you can pretend you know whats what

and ill know I know whats and not need your approval

you want a simple visual?

look at a map, if the entire world is so distraught with the "Palestinians" then tell their arab brothers to take them in

95% of the land mass is arab

if you like youtube to be your teacher, then look up pallywood

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Like i said in ur other post lv its food ill explain y. everyone is talking about land but everyone is forgeting y man has always fought for land.. its food.. when god kick adam and eve out of paridise they were in a waste land were small areas had food.. thus begain mans greed bc not enough food. this created class level if u were in higher class u get more food. everything we think we need is a by product of this simple truth. i don't know if any one looks at star trek. but they have a machine that can make food out of nothing. in there world earth has no wars. i could never understand y until now. if u could make food in the worst place on earth would u fight for a better place. or if u live in a good place would u really mind sum cuming in u have what u need to live. until a machine like this is made i don't see world peace i hope im wrong..
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ya pal and you come off like a scholar

sb is highly intelligent, and I dont know what your point is here

land is valuable for resources and space.

so in the end the root for that end would be power and greed. Or better yet a very natural want.

its nature that says we want mo' gimme some mo' !

there is no altruistic angels to come down and govern us, idealisitic utopia is fun in movies

greed is efficient and the driving force of all development and prosperity

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I think you are missing my point, I will not argue that Palestinians live in adverse conditions

but you are missing a bigger picture, ill try to make this plain english and not confuse you this time guy

arabs own 95% of the land mass, why dont they take in their arab brothers? they dont want them!!

the regions history is complex but before jews began migrating to the area from europe..( first off they BOUGHT the land from arabs)

the land was mostly uninhabited, and was under british control, because the Ottoman Empire had just fell

the Ottoman empire was basically the entire region, under one flag. There is no Palestine or Palestinians

they are simply egyptians and jordinians, displaced.

so before you point your finger at jews, why not their arab brothers, who aurround the ENTIRE region, now divided into many nations

capiche? if not for Israel they die of starvation. the world isnt fair, but Israel is the one who consistently gives in to presure from people like you

imagine if native americans demanded their land back, and some communist pinko says colonization is illegal

and now the native americans are fighting a literal war with the US, its the same scenario.

Israel was attacked simultaneously by 6 arab nations in 1967, and kicked their asses

and if she had kept the land won fairly in that war, she would be MUCH bigger, including the Sinai desert.

but she gave the land back, and continues to do so to "Palestine"

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A quote from none other then a Palestinian Liberation Executive

on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:



The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. !



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen
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short sighted greediness may not be efficient but in the end greed is the only true motivation

at least in western civ.

if you want to argue that spiritual pursuits and ego refinement etc bring true happiness theres certainly a debate

but you cant bring tibet to western civilization and expect it to work

you can try for a coexistence of sorts, or believe they can converge...

but in the end progress is made because one guy sells lemonade,

and another wants part of the action and develops a cheaper way to squeeze em'



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no Im saying efficient, in other words, any system outside a free market that rewards competition

it could be no govt, anarchy, whatever

name me a system that would create technology, innovation and ultimately better standard of living

without greed



you can argue greed was also in communism and other forms of government that were not as successful as our current democratic/mixed market success. pfft

and pure greed/free market economy led to the downfall of the American economy 🙂
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greed is behind every form of government, in fact is behind most every action you make daily

even acts of charity are greedy unless you remain anonymous in delivering it

this was not a free market vs socialist argument at all.

What im saying is greed is the fuel of all fires, and there are no altruistic alien/angles who can come down and govern us

it is because of greedy men who lead that anything gets done, now whats the alternative? there is none, only idealistic pipe dreams

back to your point, greed does not cause economic collapses, short sighted greed does
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Self-interest motivates different parties to cooperate, helping everyone in the community, such as in the example of people making mutually beneficial business transactions. An individual will look at his own self-interest to decide whether to compete or cooperate with others. It is still a linear programming chart, statistical decision theory, minimax solutions and computation of price-cost probabilities.
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Like i said in ur other post lv its food ill explain y. everyone is talking about land but everyone is forgeting y man has always fought for land.. its food.. when god kick adam and eve out of paridise they were in a waste land were small areas had food.. thus begain mans greed bc not enough food. this created class level if u were in higher class u get more food. everything we think we need is a by product of this simple truth. i don't know if any one looks at star trek. but they have a machine that can make food out of nothing. in there world earth has no wars. i could never understand y until now. if u could make food in the worst place on earth would u fight for a better place. or if u live in a good place would u really mind sum cuming in u have what u need to live. until a machine like this is made i don't see world peace i hope im wrong..

You are right. technology will be the answer to this. That's why I am really gaining momentum with the idea of vertical farming.
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thanks im glad sum one can see the big picture anything else u think will help.
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Self-interest motivates different parties to cooperate, helping everyone in the community, such as in the example of people making mutually beneficial business transactions. An individual will look at his own self-interest to decide whether to compete or cooperate with others. It is still a linear programming chart, statistical decision theory, minimax solutions and computation of price-cost probabilities.



You're someone that has most likely been raised in a selfish family/community. Dont judge others by your standards.

Not everyone is selfish and self serving. Believe it or not - there are humble beings out there. It's just that you haven't encountered any. So I do feel sorry for you.

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Self-interest motivates different parties to cooperate, helping everyone in the community, such as in the example of people making mutually beneficial business transactions. An individual will look at his own self-interest to decide whether to compete or cooperate with others. It is still a linear programming chart, statistical decision theory, minimax solutions and computation of price-cost probabilities.



You're someone that has most likely been raised in a selfish family/community. Dont judge others by your standards.

Not everyone is selfish and self serving. Believe it or not - there are humble beings out there. It's just that you haven't encountered any. So I do feel sorry for you.

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ya well im talking economics and you are talking gibberish & assuming a ton about me

lol, please
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^right, but even in general terms, survival, and also with life's comforts - thats greed fueling it

I think we are simply misinterpreting each others definition of greed, or ego here

in any case of course technology creates standards of living, and youre example of vertical farming is def something that can create food at lower costs

much like alternative energy, at least today, it cant replace the status quo entirely, but it can be useful and a better option in certain applications

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thanks im glad sum one can see the big picture anything else u think will help.

food is a major component but its not the entire picture, its resources in general for example what good is food without a mode of transporting it (oil), storing it (electricity) etc the list could go on forever


U are correct tac that is y we live in the world we live in today.. that is y i was talking about startrek the machine looks like a micrwave u would not have to worry about traspertation.. but i think powering the source could be a problem but could be solve over time.. even if such a machine was made it would not get rid of the evils we have today over night but over time it will.... like all things in nature change... so do people
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what is wrong with people? order and progress, im not one to ever say "in the good ole days" because they werent that good

every generation makes positives changes piece by piece

there is no evil, there is only natural instincts

as for science fiction, its always loosely based on real science

however transporting molecules and reassembling them somewhere else, I feel will stay in the fiction realm

but you are right what we value today as resources might not be so valuable tomorrow

there will simply be a new resource, that must be discovered, refined, etc.

say for space travels 🙂

and that resource will not be infinite, so we fight for it

heres something to ponder, but those that fight for, and get the resources generally do get the most out of the resource

and arent wasteful, in that way nature is the true deciding factor
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Seems to be difficult as some punches directed at you are legacies from past generations... j/k

'bout ye Cappy?



HI DA 😄 😄 😄!!! You found me ^_^.

Seems to be difficult as some punches directed at you are legacies from past generations

Hahahaha, actually that observation seems about right ^_^.


I'm doing okay 🙂 I'm just trying to get my head in order hahahaha, I have too much to do and I have to focus rather than be all sulky and what not.