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I8: Hey TLS!! Sorry it took me a while to answer back, hope all is well with Scorp and SO!!
>>>It is not well, but I will survive....haha.
I8: I know this has nothing to do with this forum, but this comment from you really stayed with me, especially the last part.... Anyway??_ it really resonated with me.
>>>Yeah, and its kinda rare for a female to be that into war. I've recommended a book on North Nodes here before. Jan Spiller _Astrology for the Soul_. For me, it was as revealing as reading my first book on Sun Signs. Check it on Google Books, and read some of the Libra NN section (starts on p. 274):
http://books.google.com/books?id=_XklE3sCpVgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astrology+for+the+soul&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XepmUvq-M-TL2QXYlIHwCQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=astrology% 20for% 20the% 20soul&f=false
For me I've been obsessed with combat (martial arts, boxing) and weapons of all kinds, since I was a kid. There is a side to me that constantly feels like life is at war, and I have to constantly think about survival. I look at my house and think "Why do we have windows on the first floor? My home is my castle. It should not be so vulnerable." LOL. The positive side to Libra NN, I have *definitely* seen in my life. I find that I am really good at recognizing talents in others, and emboldening them, and counseling them in very practical way, as to how they can go after their dreams. Bruce Lee is a great example of Libra NN fulfilling their life's purpose. He used his natural talents/discipline as a fighter, to really change the culture around him and bring alot of racial integration/harmony where it was lacking. He also revolutionized the way we understand hand-to-hand combat in the process.
I8: You voice out a lot about what your scorp needs to do for you in order for you to accept her. But if this was more about her, I think you would be more willing to get to know her, the real her; not the her she displays in public. Anyway, that's where I got that.
>>>Yeah, I guess can see that. I think my problem is pride. She seems to share that issue though.
>>>It is not well, but I will survive....haha.
I8: I know this has nothing to do with this forum, but this comment from you really stayed with me, especially the last part.... Anyway??_ it really resonated with me.
>>>Yeah, and its kinda rare for a female to be that into war. I've recommended a book on North Nodes here before. Jan Spiller _Astrology for the Soul_. For me, it was as revealing as reading my first book on Sun Signs. Check it on Google Books, and read some of the Libra NN section (starts on p. 274):
http://books.google.com/books?id=_XklE3sCpVgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astrology+for+the+soul&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XepmUvq-M-TL2QXYlIHwCQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=astrology% 20for% 20the% 20soul&f=false
For me I've been obsessed with combat (martial arts, boxing) and weapons of all kinds, since I was a kid. There is a side to me that constantly feels like life is at war, and I have to constantly think about survival. I look at my house and think "Why do we have windows on the first floor? My home is my castle. It should not be so vulnerable." LOL. The positive side to Libra NN, I have *definitely* seen in my life. I find that I am really good at recognizing talents in others, and emboldening them, and counseling them in very practical way, as to how they can go after their dreams. Bruce Lee is a great example of Libra NN fulfilling their life's purpose. He used his natural talents/discipline as a fighter, to really change the culture around him and bring alot of racial integration/harmony where it was lacking. He also revolutionized the way we understand hand-to-hand combat in the process.
I8: You voice out a lot about what your scorp needs to do for you in order for you to accept her. But if this was more about her, I think you would be more willing to get to know her, the real her; not the her she displays in public. Anyway, that's where I got that.
>>>Yeah, I guess can see that. I think my problem is pride. She seems to share that issue though.
Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
>>>It is not well, but I will survive....haha.
I'm sorry I took such a long time to check back in, but has anything changed? Have you had a conversation with her or with your S.O?
And TLS, I've been reading over some of your older posts and posts on other threads, and there's a lot I want to say. But I'm kind of afraid of offending you.
Miscreant: I'm sorry I took such a long time to check back in, but has anything changed? Have you had a conversation with her or with your S.O?
>>>No worries. I have not. I'm just back to completely ignoring the situation. I see no real hope here for anything positive to come out of this. It has to just end.
Micreant: And TLS, I've been reading over some of your older posts and posts on other threads, and there's a lot I want to say. But I'm kind of afraid of offending you.
>>>Have at it. If I agree with you, I'll say so. I won't be offended. I probably already agree on much of what you'll say.
>>>No worries. I have not. I'm just back to completely ignoring the situation. I see no real hope here for anything positive to come out of this. It has to just end.
Micreant: And TLS, I've been reading over some of your older posts and posts on other threads, and there's a lot I want to say. But I'm kind of afraid of offending you.
>>>Have at it. If I agree with you, I'll say so. I won't be offended. I probably already agree on much of what you'll say.
I swear, if I didn't know and understand his simple writing style , I would think that you are my Taurus! But I know he doesn't write as well as you, nor does he ever express his FEELINGS. EVER. It is always just comments like "you are the MILF for me". That is what I get. However, the way he looks in my eyes on those rare occasions that our eyes actually meet? (where I am not acting like a shy 16 year old) there is PURE MAGIC between us. And I think it scares both of us? I don't know. I also don't know why I am writing on a astrology message board about this. what I DO know is I DO love him. I will never show him either, until he proves to me he feels the same. Stop being stubborn TLS. She might just feel like I do. 😉
Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
Miscreant: I'm sorry I took such a long time to check back in, but has anything changed? Have you had a conversation with her or with your S.O?
>>>No worries. I have not. I'm just back to completely ignoring the situation. I see no real hope here for anything positive to come out of this. It has to just end.
Agreed - You know the ending before the relationship even begin. Your current (SO) sounds amazing. . Following your emotions will satisfy you for a good few months ... is it worth it ..most likely not.
It is not fair on your woman to have you physically ....but not emotionally... she deserves your heart/mind/body...
You got to do something about your emotions- can you change your job? ( I mean it ) . She sounds like a karmic soulmate. I also believe my ex was my karmic soulmate as well. == that doesn't mean they are here in this life as your long term partner... they are here to teach you something- have you learnt something from her? - i have learnt to be the most compassionate person human being..something i kept hidden for many many years.. now I can offer that side of me to someone who DESERVES it ... and I know will not lift me up and drop me back on the ground ... someone who will hold me in the same position for the rest of my life - who's mentally ready- for my compassionate love that my scorpio ex brought back to life...it was never meant to be FOR him though.. -- his job was to bring it to the surface--and he's succeeded.. so it is the end of our re-union- i don't need him in my life anymore.
Scorpiogirl - why did you hide all that? LOL. Anyway, I read it twice and thx. You folks have the worst timing though...hahahah. I just have to move on. I can't keep sparking hope back up for this situation. The scenario you described is eerily similar to a path I see my own situation going down; and it just isn't something I can do. I am very communicative about feelings, but I'm not even convinced that goes over well with a Scorp; I see it as a potential negative. If I revealed how I felt, It'd probably kill all that mystery and thrill of capture that Scorps like, then I'd be left for dead. It is really hard to win with you folks. You talked about the pain you've felt in ignoring each other. I am DYING. I mean it. My stomach is in knots. I can't sleep sometimes. The depression is too much. I have enough of that of my own to deal with. Last night I could not even sleep with my SO. Had to go to another room and meditate for half the night just to get to a calm enough state to where I can sleep. It is really good to hear from the other side of this dynamic though. I absolutely know her feelings are intense; she has definitely revealed her hand several times. I think its best for her that we both ignore each other also. You women are SO strong and I know she is going to be fine.
Whoever designed the Zodiac really needs to fix this Taurus/Scorpio glitch.
Whoever designed the Zodiac really needs to fix this Taurus/Scorpio glitch.
STVG: Agreed - You know the ending before the relationship even begin. Your current (SO) sounds amazing. . Following your emotions will satisfy you for a good few months ... is it worth it ..most likely not.
>>>Exactly.
STVG: It is not fair on your woman to have you physically ....but not emotionally... she deserves your heart/mind/body...
>>>That's been the hardest part. I agree 100% but getting back to that has not been easy. I know it can happen; I was there with her before the Scorp. It is not easy though. Since I "imprinted" on this Scorp, its hard to even be near my SO some nights. Some nights its back to normal.
STVG: You got to do something about your emotions- can you change your job? ( I mean it ) .
>>>I'm considering it. Early next year I will at least be out of the office 2-3 days a week if nothing else changes.
STVG: She sounds like a karmic soulmate. I also believe my ex was my karmic soulmate as well. == that doesn't mean they are here in this life as your long term partner... they are here to teach you something- have you learnt something from her? -
>>>I feel that way - the soulmate thing, and I agree its not to be together at least physically. I've learned a ton, mostly about strength of character and the MANY flaws I have though. But also, about the potential I have.
STVG: i have learnt to be the most compassionate person human being..something i kept hidden for many many years.. now I can offer that side of me to someone who DESERVES it ...
>>>I'm glad you're out of the web. Just be careful...hahahaha....Its so easy to get tangled up again. You seem like a really sweet and strong person, and what you've written about your relationship has definitely influenced my thinking.
>>>Exactly.
STVG: It is not fair on your woman to have you physically ....but not emotionally... she deserves your heart/mind/body...
>>>That's been the hardest part. I agree 100% but getting back to that has not been easy. I know it can happen; I was there with her before the Scorp. It is not easy though. Since I "imprinted" on this Scorp, its hard to even be near my SO some nights. Some nights its back to normal.
STVG: You got to do something about your emotions- can you change your job? ( I mean it ) .
>>>I'm considering it. Early next year I will at least be out of the office 2-3 days a week if nothing else changes.
STVG: She sounds like a karmic soulmate. I also believe my ex was my karmic soulmate as well. == that doesn't mean they are here in this life as your long term partner... they are here to teach you something- have you learnt something from her? -
>>>I feel that way - the soulmate thing, and I agree its not to be together at least physically. I've learned a ton, mostly about strength of character and the MANY flaws I have though. But also, about the potential I have.
STVG: i have learnt to be the most compassionate person human being..something i kept hidden for many many years.. now I can offer that side of me to someone who DESERVES it ...
>>>I'm glad you're out of the web. Just be careful...hahahaha....Its so easy to get tangled up again. You seem like a really sweet and strong person, and what you've written about your relationship has definitely influenced my thinking.
@ TLS . I'm glad my story influenced your thinking. "be careful?" please don't wish me hell. My Scorpio ex is dating another girl right now. They both have bi-polar. I wish them very very well. It's best he stays out of my sight. Trust me on this- it might not make sense now because you are so tangled up in that mess but once you are out.. n not see her so much- you will be able to be with your SO mentally as well. Your world will become brighter and you will come out of it stronger. you will stil think about her from time to time but it won't be anything like what it is now where you can't sleep and all that. Im glad you are considering moving away from her. if you are meant to be, you and your so might brake up on its own reason ( not influenced by a Scorpio) then you might find yourself bumping into her one day.. But right now you know exactly what to do 🙂 thanks for the compliments though...! Everyone around me realised how dark I was when I was having my scorpios ex issue.. Now i'm shining like no tomorrow. It's an amazing feeling. ! all the best though !!!
oh dear. Sorry TLS. I hid those messages today because I thought only members could see them. Not realizing that NO ONE could see them, so I changed that.
Anyway, I am just as frustrated as you seem to be. I think I need to also just let it go (although I have tried this a gazillion times and it DOES NOT WORK..) But let me say this...you say "If I revealed how I felt, It'd probably kill all that mystery and thrill of capture that Scorps like, then I'd be left for dead." AND YOU WOULD BE TOTALLY WRONG. OMG, I have been LONGING for my Taurus to FINALLY reveal his REAL feelings to me, and not cover them up with his sexual only attraction. I would give ANYTHING to know what is REALLY going on in his head!! REAL feelings and emotions...that is what I WANT. Not the staring and game playing. I am DYING too TLS. And it has caused MAJOR depression in me as well. TO the point that some nights I can't sleep.
Let me ask you something.....have you revealed the whole story here? I am not being mean or sneaky or any negative thing here. I truly want to know, because I feel there is more here than what you have revealed. And of course being in a similar siutation I get WHY. I just want to know....
I hate this Taurus man yet love him so much I can't stand it, but I too am near the point I am going to just walk away and do the "right thing", because I can't take his flakiness anymore. The pain his actions cause me and my life, yet the love I can't deny....it is TOO much. I can't let it ruin my life (like it IS doing now) anymore. I wish you luck my dear....we are both screwed.
Anyway, I am just as frustrated as you seem to be. I think I need to also just let it go (although I have tried this a gazillion times and it DOES NOT WORK..) But let me say this...you say "If I revealed how I felt, It'd probably kill all that mystery and thrill of capture that Scorps like, then I'd be left for dead." AND YOU WOULD BE TOTALLY WRONG. OMG, I have been LONGING for my Taurus to FINALLY reveal his REAL feelings to me, and not cover them up with his sexual only attraction. I would give ANYTHING to know what is REALLY going on in his head!! REAL feelings and emotions...that is what I WANT. Not the staring and game playing. I am DYING too TLS. And it has caused MAJOR depression in me as well. TO the point that some nights I can't sleep.
Let me ask you something.....have you revealed the whole story here? I am not being mean or sneaky or any negative thing here. I truly want to know, because I feel there is more here than what you have revealed. And of course being in a similar siutation I get WHY. I just want to know....
I hate this Taurus man yet love him so much I can't stand it, but I too am near the point I am going to just walk away and do the "right thing", because I can't take his flakiness anymore. The pain his actions cause me and my life, yet the love I can't deny....it is TOO much. I can't let it ruin my life (like it IS doing now) anymore. I wish you luck my dear....we are both screwed.
scorpiogirl - yeah, there are a few additional twists that make it even more impossible. I will pm you if u want the whole story...
please do. I knew there had to be more (after all I AM a scorpio, so I was able to "sense" this...lol)
TLS,
what do you like man? the sag or the Scorpio? Don't get me wrong with this... if she sense that
you are such a player. She will just pretend of wanting you and leave your ass cold.
I am doing that in my early 30's now I am 34. and I do that to my Taurus office mate who is
too obssessed with me even he had a wife. Lol. Until I dropped his ass. But I still go back what I
destroyed and made it for him a little bit painless by calling him and saying sorry. lol.
Your story is the same as mine....and the lust part was really incredible. But no sex story. lol
He was more afraid because He knew... I am just different type of woman. He then told me that I was
just pretending my feelings and interest but will leave him soon.
M143: what do you like man? the sag or the Scorpio? Don't get me wrong with this... if she sense that
you are such a player. She will just pretend of wanting you and leave your ass cold.
>>>I'm not a player, really. I'm choosing the Sag. Scorp has already signaled that she wants me, more dramatically and consistently than any female I've ever met; I didn't move on it when it was sincere, and I wouldn't fall for the fake version. There's no real danger of her leaving me cold. Its cold now, and I initiated it. If she walked up to me, flattered me, used every charm in the Scorpio handbook to seduce me, I would still tell her no. And I've read enough about Scorps to know this trick anyway, and I actually anticipate it from her. Tricks like that don't really work on me. With my Cap rising and all, I take relationships very seriously, and if she played such a game, rather than be heartbroken, I would just lose a lot of respect for her and probably laugh. The fact that there's even the potential for this kind of behavior with the lesser evolved reps of this sign, is yet another very good reason *not* to trust her really. No offense to you. Play on, playa.....
you are such a player. She will just pretend of wanting you and leave your ass cold.
>>>I'm not a player, really. I'm choosing the Sag. Scorp has already signaled that she wants me, more dramatically and consistently than any female I've ever met; I didn't move on it when it was sincere, and I wouldn't fall for the fake version. There's no real danger of her leaving me cold. Its cold now, and I initiated it. If she walked up to me, flattered me, used every charm in the Scorpio handbook to seduce me, I would still tell her no. And I've read enough about Scorps to know this trick anyway, and I actually anticipate it from her. Tricks like that don't really work on me. With my Cap rising and all, I take relationships very seriously, and if she played such a game, rather than be heartbroken, I would just lose a lot of respect for her and probably laugh. The fact that there's even the potential for this kind of behavior with the lesser evolved reps of this sign, is yet another very good reason *not* to trust her really. No offense to you. Play on, playa.....
TLS,
so stick the ''no''. It will be better that way.
I8 - wow...you just stopped by and dropped a whole lot of awesomeness off in this thread today. Feels like Christmas morning. Your story is probably one of my favorites on these boards ever. Felt like I was watching a movie reading that. Makes my little office staring games seem extremely lame in comparison. Do you realize how much he sacrificed with his behavior? Knowing the Leo nature and the Taurus/Leo dynamic fairly well, he probably traded a lifetime of hell to have those moments with you. Leos are VERY aware of anyone even potentially competing for the spotlight of their lover's attention, and if you somehow allow something to dethrone them even for a second, you wound their ego irreparably, and will be tortured for the rest of your life. She is probably still paying him back for that night. How could you just take off like that—??!!!! You left him with so many questions! You should've at least just told him what was up! I respect you tremendously for the decision not to pursue it though.
I8: If I were to do things differently, I would have met up with him and told him in his face how I felt about him and then left. Leaving things unsaid makes you always stay in the "what if" zone. Breaking the hypnotic affect is the only way to live back in peace.
>>>>YESSSS!!! This is all I wanted - a chance to do this. Unfortunately the Universe HATES me and wanted to torture me. Its never going to happen, its just too late now, and it kinda disrespectful to my SO to even do it. I believe our feelings would've only intensified with communication.
I8: If I were to do things differently, I would have met up with him and told him in his face how I felt about him and then left. Leaving things unsaid makes you always stay in the "what if" zone. Breaking the hypnotic affect is the only way to live back in peace.
>>>>YESSSS!!! This is all I wanted - a chance to do this. Unfortunately the Universe HATES me and wanted to torture me. Its never going to happen, its just too late now, and it kinda disrespectful to my SO to even do it. I believe our feelings would've only intensified with communication.
I8: Yes, you both have the same issue. But, realize that this pride and stubbornness can also be another excuse for being extremely fearful.
>>>So true. At the root, for me, its a fear of the shame of rejection. Thought about that a lot today actually.
I8: Let go of the fear and get yourself out of thinking in within the box. You have such a strong determination... use that in a positive way. Say hello without expecting anything in return. Unleash yourself from the chains... and allow your true self to come out. Learn to calm yourself in her presence. If you really want to stay with your SO, running away from Scorpio is not the way to go about it. Face it, conquer it. Prove to yourself that Scorpio cannot get in the way of your happiness.
>>>I've actually been thinking along these exact lines, and even started down this path. I'm learning just to be myself and be somewhat more comfortable near her lately. I just needed a certain amount of time emotionally isolated from her, to let the feelings die as much as they can. It'll never be "normal" around her, but at least I can fake it a little better....Hahahhahaha. I will continue to hide in some ways though. I can't lower my computer monitors for instance to their normally, ergonomically sound, position. She just dances her little butt around TOO much when I do that, and it is the most ridiculous distraction. I fall back into the web. If I pretend to not even notice her when I CAN clearly see her, I can tell it hurts her. So I remain out of view completely. I feel she knows I *need* to do that, and her ego can have the consolation prize of knowing she has this much of an impact on me.
>>>So true. At the root, for me, its a fear of the shame of rejection. Thought about that a lot today actually.
I8: Let go of the fear and get yourself out of thinking in within the box. You have such a strong determination... use that in a positive way. Say hello without expecting anything in return. Unleash yourself from the chains... and allow your true self to come out. Learn to calm yourself in her presence. If you really want to stay with your SO, running away from Scorpio is not the way to go about it. Face it, conquer it. Prove to yourself that Scorpio cannot get in the way of your happiness.
>>>I've actually been thinking along these exact lines, and even started down this path. I'm learning just to be myself and be somewhat more comfortable near her lately. I just needed a certain amount of time emotionally isolated from her, to let the feelings die as much as they can. It'll never be "normal" around her, but at least I can fake it a little better....Hahahhahaha. I will continue to hide in some ways though. I can't lower my computer monitors for instance to their normally, ergonomically sound, position. She just dances her little butt around TOO much when I do that, and it is the most ridiculous distraction. I fall back into the web. If I pretend to not even notice her when I CAN clearly see her, I can tell it hurts her. So I remain out of view completely. I feel she knows I *need* to do that, and her ego can have the consolation prize of knowing she has this much of an impact on me.
i8: My mother is a Taurus and with her (and most other Taurus) I feel safe, home.
>>>Ha! My Dad is a Scorpio and I feel the same around him.
i8: They can have the most calming affect on me sometimes. But my mom is the opposite; she is slow, calm and only thinks in the present!
>>>Who needs Eckhart Tolle? Taurus has mastered the "power of now". Hahhaha....Buddha was a allegedly a Taurus.
i8: And as I posted mine(So cruel), realized Bono(Taurus and my childhood OBSESSION) was having an affair with Winona(Scorpio) when he wrote this album!!
>>>That's crazy bc Winona was my childhood obsession. You are like some weird mirror opposite of me with your chart and everything...lol. That song definitely sounds like Scorp love to me. Terrifying!
i8: Wow TLS, it's crazy how your planets really do make up your personality.
>>>It is INSANE. This is a very strange universe. I have been peeling back the layers of my natal chart lately - getting into the retrograde planets, the asteroids, the houses. I am blown away by how accurate some of this stuff is - the depth to which it goes, and the DETAILED ways in which my life has followed the path laid out by my chart. Coming to grips with some of my flaws, and some of the karmic/fate stuff in the chart, has actually been extremely painful at times. I've had to take breaks.
i8: Yes, I'm quite the paradox, in every sense of its meaning. I appear to be very feminine in the way I present myself but appearances can be deceiving sometimes.
>>>My scorp, and a lot of scorps I've met are like this. Oddly enough, I like it. lol.
>>>Ha! My Dad is a Scorpio and I feel the same around him.
i8: They can have the most calming affect on me sometimes. But my mom is the opposite; she is slow, calm and only thinks in the present!
>>>Who needs Eckhart Tolle? Taurus has mastered the "power of now". Hahhaha....Buddha was a allegedly a Taurus.
i8: And as I posted mine(So cruel), realized Bono(Taurus and my childhood OBSESSION) was having an affair with Winona(Scorpio) when he wrote this album!!
>>>That's crazy bc Winona was my childhood obsession. You are like some weird mirror opposite of me with your chart and everything...lol. That song definitely sounds like Scorp love to me. Terrifying!
i8: Wow TLS, it's crazy how your planets really do make up your personality.
>>>It is INSANE. This is a very strange universe. I have been peeling back the layers of my natal chart lately - getting into the retrograde planets, the asteroids, the houses. I am blown away by how accurate some of this stuff is - the depth to which it goes, and the DETAILED ways in which my life has followed the path laid out by my chart. Coming to grips with some of my flaws, and some of the karmic/fate stuff in the chart, has actually been extremely painful at times. I've had to take breaks.
i8: Yes, I'm quite the paradox, in every sense of its meaning. I appear to be very feminine in the way I present myself but appearances can be deceiving sometimes.
>>>My scorp, and a lot of scorps I've met are like this. Oddly enough, I like it. lol.
I dont know if its only about scorpio..but I must say that I m sooo fizically atracted by this strong, big, blue eyed taurus man...we r talking on internet for almost 1 year, he never told me about his feelings towards me, his opinions, but he s always constant, n is telling me what s he doing, going, expects me to prise him for anything he does backhome n like this - every day..I thought I ll go crazy...as a woman I need to see some action, initiative from his side..I don t know why he s so slow...recently we did n t talk for the whole week (for the 1st time)n then he s asking me how r am, we did n t talk for long time....I asked him why he did n t talk to me n he asked me back if I missed him...it s such a strange atraction, if he would tell n do something to be together I d accept a relationship, even if the distance between us is so long (continents), we ve never met befor, we r just talking of fb n skype..but I can t do all this for him. He s the Man n he does nt do anything. it feels like he s waiting for me to crack up my feeling towards him, while he does n reveal anything about his emotional part, but I can t n I won t..again...cause he s the Man.
I8 - def a tragic fairytale. Why not just look the dude up, and send him a note explaining? He maybe still needs that closure. Maybe you both can laugh about it? You did the right thing though. Proud of you as a human being - not many people would go that route. Communicating then, in the moment, maybe would've made it more painful for both (and maybe if you'd gotten that make-out session, that would've really screwed things up - from what another scorp is telling me, when this dynamic is present, kissing is like a merging of your souls). And you're right, there's still a lot of games going on. Its hard to back out of that once the ego gets tangled; she started it! Hahahahah. Anyway, on astro stuff, pm me through here, or pm me your email.
I just wanted to make a quick comment on something - another member had pm'ed me after she read my story, stating that she had a VERY similar story. If you are out there, and you see this, PLEASE PM me again....I deleted all my PM's and I forgot your screen name! I want to write you back!! IDK if there is a way to retrieve deleted PM's or not, or how to find you!
But she said something to me in the PM that made a lot of sense, and I wanted to share. A lot of other signs (or other people in general) tend to think that us scorps are all game players and manipulative. In my case with my Taurus, he might very well think I am "playing games", but nothing could be further than the truth. What others may think are "games" are really us scorps acting in a way to protect our hearts. We may seem strong and like nothing can break us, but that simply isn't true. Underneath that tough shell lies a girl who has been hurt so much in her life, that she is extra super careful with EVERYONE in her life, because she fears being hurt or being out of control EVER AGAIN! She fears rejection so badly because she grew up being told she was nothing, and being rejected all the time. So instead of putting herself out there, she just waits for others to prove they can be trusted and that their feelings are true, before we will ever allow ourselves to be vulnerable.
With my Taurus, (and with other stories I have read) they disappear all the time or play the hot/cold thing and we simply can't handle that, because you leave us wondering "does he really like me, or am I being played"? We start to obsess (at least I do) about what we may have done wrong to make you disappear. Then I get angry.....angry because I did allow him into my heart just a little, and I feel like I am being rejected all over again. It is very painful. So I put up a wall and treat him the same way. I ignore him more, because to show any vulnerability without knowing where I stand with him would be too much of a risk - it isn't a game, love is never a game to me. If I really didn't like someone, they would know it, believe me. The "mask" of anger I might wear around the Taurus is only to protect myself - kinda to let him know "hey buddy, I know you know I have feelings for you, but if you are gonna play this disappearing act game over and over, I am gonna let YOU know that you cannot break me!" Even if, in all reality, he already has. 😢
But she said something to me in the PM that made a lot of sense, and I wanted to share. A lot of other signs (or other people in general) tend to think that us scorps are all game players and manipulative. In my case with my Taurus, he might very well think I am "playing games", but nothing could be further than the truth. What others may think are "games" are really us scorps acting in a way to protect our hearts. We may seem strong and like nothing can break us, but that simply isn't true. Underneath that tough shell lies a girl who has been hurt so much in her life, that she is extra super careful with EVERYONE in her life, because she fears being hurt or being out of control EVER AGAIN! She fears rejection so badly because she grew up being told she was nothing, and being rejected all the time. So instead of putting herself out there, she just waits for others to prove they can be trusted and that their feelings are true, before we will ever allow ourselves to be vulnerable.
With my Taurus, (and with other stories I have read) they disappear all the time or play the hot/cold thing and we simply can't handle that, because you leave us wondering "does he really like me, or am I being played"? We start to obsess (at least I do) about what we may have done wrong to make you disappear. Then I get angry.....angry because I did allow him into my heart just a little, and I feel like I am being rejected all over again. It is very painful. So I put up a wall and treat him the same way. I ignore him more, because to show any vulnerability without knowing where I stand with him would be too much of a risk - it isn't a game, love is never a game to me. If I really didn't like someone, they would know it, believe me. The "mask" of anger I might wear around the Taurus is only to protect myself - kinda to let him know "hey buddy, I know you know I have feelings for you, but if you are gonna play this disappearing act game over and over, I am gonna let YOU know that you cannot break me!" Even if, in all reality, he already has. 😢
scorpiogirl: The "mask" of anger I might wear around the Taurus is only to protect myself - kinda to let him know "hey buddy, I know you know I have feelings for you, but if you are gonna play this disappearing act game over and over, I am gonna let YOU know that you cannot break me!"
>>>>This actually taught me ALOT about what has happened to me and to her, in this whole dynamic. But from the perspective of someone dealing with it, I will say that you folks put on the mask of strength SO QUICKLY, because you are hurt so easily and feel the pain so deeply. And because your will is so strong, the masks you put on are SO convincing, that what you can wind up communicating is that you DO NOT CARE, before the other person even realizes that they have hurt you. So the whole chain of events amounts to the worst possible form of miscommunication.
Water sign emotions are deep and beautiful and can really affect change in others. In alot of ways, I think you close the door to love when you repress them in your refusal to be vulnerable. But I understand the instinct to self-protect and how strong it is, and I think we all do that to an extent.
>>>>This actually taught me ALOT about what has happened to me and to her, in this whole dynamic. But from the perspective of someone dealing with it, I will say that you folks put on the mask of strength SO QUICKLY, because you are hurt so easily and feel the pain so deeply. And because your will is so strong, the masks you put on are SO convincing, that what you can wind up communicating is that you DO NOT CARE, before the other person even realizes that they have hurt you. So the whole chain of events amounts to the worst possible form of miscommunication.
Water sign emotions are deep and beautiful and can really affect change in others. In alot of ways, I think you close the door to love when you repress them in your refusal to be vulnerable. But I understand the instinct to self-protect and how strong it is, and I think we all do that to an extent.
Posted by robyn808
you're still being deceptive darling and untrue to most importantly... yourself.
I think all the water signs really are forced to wear a mask. As bulls, we hate to be fake, and see fakeness as a major weakness. But its hard to relate because we aren't saddled with the intensity of the emotions they experience; we're usually fairly stable inwardly (other than the anger flare-ups). The water sign men typically will all overcompensate and act like they are extra manly, because society teaches them that men shouldn't be the way that they feel. Even with the women, its simply not acceptable to be 100% honest and display their emotions in society. Cancers can't walk around crying everywhere they go all day for instance. LOL. Scorpios are in a unique predicament I think because they are allegedly the most sensitive, and deeply feeling sign, but I honestly think they are the most proud sign - even moreso than Leos. They are the least comfortable with admitting to weakness, because of their defensive and distrusting nature. So its just two really difficult inclinations - super prideful and defensive + inwardly very sensitive. The former apparently develops because of the latter, and the shell grows thick as their early raw/exposed sensitive nature takes a ton of abuse throughout childhoood.
We all wear masks to some degree though. When I am furious with a co-worker, and want to bodyslam him in his cubicle and smash random computer equipment on top of his limp unconscious body, all because he gave me a slight attitude a little too early in the morning, I'm not advertising this. I just shut my emotions off completely, put on my headset and listen to music, and ignore him for about a week, fantasizing about the bodyslam. That's not exactly being real.
SunTauVenGem-
....i am 100% sure my scorpio (ex lover..current lover..)..whatever you want to call it ...is my one of my soul mates...
he came into my life for a reason...connection is intense... we can never have a conversation without falling back in love again.....four years we were apart and it felt like we never parted..i will always love him...he's a part of me .....i feel him even when he's not with me...he could be my twin flame ....the last time we shared an intimacy was .....extremely passionate...intense...love making....we shared one soul....words can not describe it...i can't explain it to people because they don't understand. ..i never feel this way with anyone before...i am open to other soul mates to come into my life...
but my scorpio is kept deeply underneath my soul...i will always love him ....
Are you open to other soul mates to come into your life? Nevermind what happened with scorpio what matter now is if you are feeling ready/open to other soulmates to come into your life? Its a yes or no answer as well. No think about it just know if it is yes or no, ok!
....i am 100% sure my scorpio (ex lover..current lover..)..whatever you want to call it ...is my one of my soul mates...
he came into my life for a reason...connection is intense... we can never have a conversation without falling back in love again.....four years we were apart and it felt like we never parted..i will always love him...he's a part of me .....i feel him even when he's not with me...he could be my twin flame ....the last time we shared an intimacy was .....extremely passionate...intense...love making....we shared one soul....words can not describe it...i can't explain it to people because they don't understand. ..i never feel this way with anyone before...i am open to other soul mates to come into my life...
but my scorpio is kept deeply underneath my soul...i will always love him ....
Are you open to other soul mates to come into your life? Nevermind what happened with scorpio what matter now is if you are feeling ready/open to other soulmates to come into your life? Its a yes or no answer as well. No think about it just know if it is yes or no, ok!
Another factor in all this is that the Scorpio mind is a steel trap....
Let's say we were truly Twin Flames or soulmates or Cosmic BFF's or whatever. I think Scorpios more than anything are very aware of the degree to which reality is perception, and we create reality with our intentions.
In answer to this, is to ask yourself what is your intention/s if any with the scorpio? What is it you are seeking from this scorp?
Let's say we were truly Twin Flames or soulmates or Cosmic BFF's or whatever. I think Scorpios more than anything are very aware of the degree to which reality is perception, and we create reality with our intentions.
In answer to this, is to ask yourself what is your intention/s if any with the scorpio? What is it you are seeking from this scorp?
The lessons you learn from the interaction are invaluable.
What have you learnt from this interaction?'the last time we shared an intimacy was .....extremely passionate...intense...love making....we shared one soul....words can not describe' After this interaction, have you become one with yourself or yet to realise this?
What is it you have realised from this soulmate? Have you felt it was some sort of preparation for another to unite with, The possible Twin Flame? I would like to know if you have realised anything and if so what have you realised about this soulmate scorpio?
What have you learnt from this interaction?'the last time we shared an intimacy was .....extremely passionate...intense...love making....we shared one soul....words can not describe' After this interaction, have you become one with yourself or yet to realise this?
What is it you have realised from this soulmate? Have you felt it was some sort of preparation for another to unite with, The possible Twin Flame? I would like to know if you have realised anything and if so what have you realised about this soulmate scorpio?
Not a matter of realising and understanding it, you gotta see it too. Well its all three of those things. I mean where are you up to? Do you see it or are you yet to? Have you realised and understand that this scorpio is your soulmate? and you both must help each other learn lessons or if all lessons learnt to just make each other see, realise and understand this and then both can move on to our Twin Flames?
I would like to know where you are? It is important to make sure you will see, realise and understand this? Go back and read the twin flames and soulmates article if you like and see how that makes sense? and get back to me plz?
I would like to know where you are? It is important to make sure you will see, realise and understand this? Go back and read the twin flames and soulmates article if you like and see how that makes sense? and get back to me plz?
TLS, I think I tried to explain in my pm's....dear baby, we are going through the EXACT pain. And we do mirror one another after all, being total opposites...I hope I was able to help you in some way, showing you that the scorp "mask" is only that. That feelings and emotions go so DEEP with us, and that that INTENSITY can sometimes come off as cruel, when in reality, we are in so much more pain than you could ever imagine.
The crazy part is that my SO was at a parallel table inside, waiting for me to choose her in some manner.
Yeh and because of that decision (knowing full well that SO back then is The One for you) and how you are these days in liking to provoke scandal and destroy people you end up in these situation same as old Are you going to choose the same path and hurt others like before with your stupid fucked up ignorant behaviours? And then end up by yourself which is not what you truly want is it? Now smarten the fuck up and grow he fuck up and be a man and choose SO over this scorp, I mean basically get over yourself. You want a repeat of last century you going about the right way thats for sure. Seems to me you aint learnt nothing. Meaningless dribble.... dribble away plz?
Yeh and because of that decision (knowing full well that SO back then is The One for you) and how you are these days in liking to provoke scandal and destroy people you end up in these situation same as old Are you going to choose the same path and hurt others like before with your stupid fucked up ignorant behaviours? And then end up by yourself which is not what you truly want is it? Now smarten the fuck up and grow he fuck up and be a man and choose SO over this scorp, I mean basically get over yourself. You want a repeat of last century you going about the right way thats for sure. Seems to me you aint learnt nothing. Meaningless dribble.... dribble away plz?
Seems like you in love with both SO and Scorp however if it makes things easier Scorp is your soulmate with whom you must complete your lifes lessons before you can completely be with SO(who is your Twin Flame). Now if this has been done and then maybe you waiting upon SO to see what is. If SO dont see then you'll have work on her for her to see as weel. So everyone is happy.
scorpiogirl99-
TLS, I think I tried to explain in my pm's....dear baby, we are going through the EXACT pain. And we do mirror one another after all, being total opposites...I hope I was able to help you in some way, showing you that the scorp "mask" is only that. That feelings and emotions go so DEEP with us, and that that INTENSITY can sometimes come off as cruel, when in reality, we are in so much more pain than you could ever imagine.
Yes I must agree with this comment. I have not viewed it in that way.
TLS, I think I tried to explain in my pm's....dear baby, we are going through the EXACT pain. And we do mirror one another after all, being total opposites...I hope I was able to help you in some way, showing you that the scorp "mask" is only that. That feelings and emotions go so DEEP with us, and that that INTENSITY can sometimes come off as cruel, when in reality, we are in so much more pain than you could ever imagine.
Yes I must agree with this comment. I have not viewed it in that way.
I really hope everything works out here and everyone finds there soulmates and learns what they got to learn and then they can be with their own Twin Flame and all will be well with the world again.
Posted by mfwb55
The crazy part is that my SO was at a parallel table inside, waiting for me to choose her in some manner.
Yeh and because of that decision (knowing full well that SO back then is The One for you) and how you are these days in liking to provoke scandal and destroy people you end up in these situation same as old Are you going to choose the same path and hurt others like before with your stupid fucked up ignorant behaviours? And then end up by yourself which is not what you truly want is it? Now smarten the fuck up and grow he fuck up and be a man and choose SO over this scorp, I mean basically get over yourself. You want a repeat of last century you going about the right way thats for sure. Seems to me you aint learnt nothing. Meaningless dribble.... dribble away plz?
Oh stop.
My SO may be a soulmate but is not a Twin Flame. If the Twin Flame is even a legit concept, NONE of the common characteristics apply to our relationship. I couldnt' stand her at first, there was no spark, barely even what I would call attraction, for years. We got to know each other VERY slowly over many many years. She won me over gradually with who she became, and how devoted she was. There was no feeling or emotional resonance at *all* with who she was, no synchronicity, no mirroring, no running, no real anxiety. It was warm and comfortable, not exhilarating and powerful. With the Scorp, almost all of the Twin Flame criteria apply. I felt like Cupid was blasting me in the heart with a rocket launcher the first time I saw her face.
Posted by scorpiogirl99
TLS, I think I tried to explain in my pm's....dear baby, we are going through the EXACT pain. And we do mirror one another after all, being total opposites...I hope I was able to help you in some way, showing you that the scorp "mask" is only that. That feelings and emotions go so DEEP with us, and that that INTENSITY can sometimes come off as cruel, when in reality, we are in so much more pain than you could ever imagine.
You are amazing, and have helped me tremendously.
Posted by robyn808
I think you may have missed my point.
All these words... explanations, excuses.... what are they all for? they don't really lead anybody to anywhere.
If I can generalize a bit, I think earth signs (and bulls especially as we are builders) are more practical in love as you indicate here; we're looking at the end result, the outcome, the fruit of our endeavor, right from the beginning. The water sign experience is more led by the heart than the head - more about going through the emotions, having the experience for the sake of the experience - immersing ones' self in the depth of feeling, even often being overwhelmed by the intensity of it to where it becomes hard to think about it rationally.
I'm not sure if there's a right or wrong; maybe different signs/elements just have their own unique perspective on what love actually is or how it ought to be experienced.
TLS,
I am not using my heart now... I learned to approached love logically not emotionally.
I am evolved Scorpio.
Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
If I can generalize a bit, I think earth signs (and bulls especially as we are builders) are more practical in love as you indicate here; we're looking at the end result, the outcome, the fruit of our endeavor, right from the beginning. The water sign experience is more led by the heart than the head - more about going through the emotions, having the experience for the sake of the experience - immersing ones' self in the depth of feeling, even often being overwhelmed by the intensity of it to where it becomes hard to think about it rationally.
I'm not sure if there's a right or wrong; maybe different signs/elements just have their own unique perspective on what love actually is or how it ought to be experienced.
@TaurusLovesScorpio, by end results I think marriage and children together.
Posted by M143
TLS,
I am not using my heart now... I learned to approached love logically not emotionally.
I am evolved Scorpio.
click to expand
@ M143
Love logically and not emotionally is that even possible? We're subjective after all.
Posted by M143
TLS,
I am not using my heart now... I learned to approached love logically not emotionally.
I am evolved Scorpio.
LOL, I dunno M143. My intuition tells me you might have a few more layers to shed. Hahahhahaha....
logical love is soooo very possible...specially after a deception..with a logical. taurus man 😉respect is 1st, logical love teaches u to take care about things that u deserve-not only for what ur givin...
Hey TLS, ive been reading your posts and oh boy are they long (i skipped most of the descriptive flamboyant parts) hope u dont mind.
Imho - life is really short, go for it (to simply put it) ure making it way too complicated.
You said that ur SO it took u years for the feelings to grow but when the scorp appeared its an instant soulmate:twinflame thing (dont u think this means something?) i dont know how old is ur daughter but since u determined her to be the greatest obstacle for u.. Maybe you should re-evaluate the scorps value, like u said put her on the backburner, as a 2nd option, as eyecandy(seems like it), cos honestly you can pursue her later when the 'perfect' time/situation allows it.
Imho - life is really short, go for it (to simply put it) ure making it way too complicated.
You said that ur SO it took u years for the feelings to grow but when the scorp appeared its an instant soulmate:twinflame thing (dont u think this means something?) i dont know how old is ur daughter but since u determined her to be the greatest obstacle for u.. Maybe you should re-evaluate the scorps value, like u said put her on the backburner, as a 2nd option, as eyecandy(seems like it), cos honestly you can pursue her later when the 'perfect' time/situation allows it.
TLS needs an award for the longest lasting thread on the Taurus board.
smh @ myself....
Posted by Impulsv
Lol I suspect this will still continue for a bit more.
Let us hope not. I just read through some of the earlier posts in this thread....wow....quite embarrassing. Kudos to her though. Never had anyone rock my boat like that.
I hope so, It will continue... I like this thread.
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i find this scorpio X taurus dynamic interesting, mainly because i can relate as a virgo dealing with a pisces... i think it's the opposition factor.. which at once repels and attracts you. it's a bizarre experience. completely bizarre. heart-altering at the same time.
Posted by bloodflood
i find this scorpio X taurus dynamic interesting, mainly because i can relate as a virgo dealing with a pisces... i think it's the opposition factor.. which at once repels and attracts you. it's a bizarre experience. completely bizarre. heart-altering at the same time.
Yeah but there's a dark, alluring, sexy, magnetic factor in there too with the Scorps. Its pretty *awesome* to have the polarity thing pulling you, and then, on top of that with Taurus already being a sensual sign, having your opposite be invested with all these special powers of seduction. Then throw in the destructive power of Pluto that flips your world upside down and shakes it violently until your intimate personal belongings are scattered about for everyone to see....its great.
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