Winning over a Taurus female, help needed! (Page 2)

Posted by Cappyboy
Haha.. although people say Capricorns are nice people.. but no one wants to date a Capricorn!! That's twisted logic!
Or.. is it that "nice guys finish last" topic all over again?!

i'd have to date more caps to figure it out so yes, my bias is pretty baseless. when i went out with my young cap who was....24 i think at the time, i was 31, part of what i felt might've been due to immaturity but he reminded so much of my cap gf who i could never feel close to/comfortable with and we've known each other for over 10 years.

i've always said she was "simple." and i don't mean that in a negative way. it's hard to describe. i know so much about her but at the same time, i feel as if there's more to her...there has to be. she's one of the most intelligent people i know. she's street wise too so why do i walk feeling as if she lacks depth? like you can ask her what she's feeling and still think, "is that it? no really, what are you feeling?"

so my cap was nice but he was also "simple." i want to woo and be woo-wed (anybody seen let's go to prison?) and earn tokens of affection. i want the knight coming to rescue me to do so on principle but fall in love with me because of who i am.

think shrek and fiona vs. fiona and prince charming. i think caps are prince charming. nice, protectors who ultimately want the fairy tale...as we all do. but they miss/don't care about some of the other details. the storybooks ignore the details of the relationship. the storybook presumes they live happily ever after. i think this might be how caps approach relationships. which is guess is why i use the word "simple." or a better choice of words might be, uncomplicated?

i want the happily ever after too but i want to experience the details of the journey rather than cutting straight to the ever after. i wanted him to be more shrek in personality and deed but look, smell and occasionally act like charming 😉

and who said cartoons didn't have life lessons...HA! lol

my point is, MAYBE caps don't like the journey as much? and for those of us that do, it doesn't bode well for a union.

Since you're a capricorn it shouldnt be too hard for you to have a Taurus girl fall for you. The best way to any taurean's heart man or woman is through sheer honesty and straightforwardness. Become a friend first make sure she's comfrotable talking to you. Hang out casually and once you feel she has warmed up enough go straight for the kill. "ASK HER OUT" once there its an easy road. Unlike most other women i feel Taurus women dont play any feminine games of read my mind. She will wait for you to make the initial moves but she will quickly pick up on your hints.

So ... umm ... the lady is overseas at the moment and I got a couple of days to think about the whole scenario.
I did some looking up and I kinda found out that..... Why are there so little Capricorn - Taurus couples?!!
Anyway I'm kinda affected by this finding 😢

Pffffft, don't be affected by what you read. I'm sure you've seen ( know I have ) all sorts of couples that seem 'astrologically impossible'. Because we all have different upbringings and life experiences. I think that makes any combination blend if they put in the effort. Earth and earth have the potential to be bedrock. Stable, against all odds. Opposites do indeed attract, but like also brings like. I can only speak for myself but there is deep comfort in that. To be sympatico, of one mind, one driving force.
http://www.starastrologer.com/compatibility_capricorn_taurus.html Check that link.

venusianbull is right. it's never impossible...in fact, the impossible ones are what i've tended to be drawn to because in my world, like attracts like (but when you look at my chart it makes a lil more sense). i've dated all of the fixed signs (minus tau) and was with two of them, leo/aqua, the longest of any relationship.

with that said, for me the astrologers are right when they say it is a challenging if not impossible union TO MAINTAIN because success in those situations requires that BOTH be mature/higher signs astrologically. if not, one or both of the signs will have difficulty putting his/her vice in check long enough to properly resolve the conflict.

so i think that in general, any relationship is right...until it's not. and when it's not, chances are if you stop looking at the issue but look at her/his and your approach to it, astrology may be dead center with an answer.

my suggestion would be to go back to the text that said it wasn't going to work and reread what won't work. then ask yourself, is this something i can change? is this something i should change?

in my case with the aqua/leo, we were all stubborn as hell and it made things rough at times. i saw myself in some1 else and it wont pretty. so it made sense to me to learn how to keep this behavior in check. not just for them, but ultimately for myself. learning how to not let my bull-headedness get in the way can benefit me in all relationships and makes me a better person/friend/lover.

wrote all that to say, be your better self and you've done your part in the relationship. the rest is up to her, not the stars.

Any of this help at all Cappyboy? 🙂

Yes it helps... just a little! Haha.. =)
Thanks for all the support so far!

Yea.. after much consideration I have decided to not give the flowers on the first date too.. haha..
And.. yup I never thought of it that way... considering that she flys around often she wouldnt have much time for friends and family and wont agree to a date with someone who she feels is not worth her time!
Well.. still 2 more weeks to go =p

Hi everyone... so she was back for a few days and we exchanged a few texts... The last text she sent me before she was flew off was reminding me that I might have some homework to do before I meet her. This text was quite serious... (without the smilies! & without the laughter!)

So now I'm kinda nervous... 😢

Help venusianbull!... or anyone...

Awwww, that's so sweet. 🙂 Don't let that make you nervous at all. Not one bit. It means she's familiar with your schedule as far as schooling, caring enough to remind you to keep your studies up. She's what I call 'clucking'. This is a good ting mon!

And something else that came lightening quick, get the serious stuff out of the WAY. There's a date to be had. 🙂

He's in uni DaBull. Feel free to correct that if it's wrong Cappy. 🙂

🙂 I ask heaps of questions to be clear on things. I call this curiousity. My good friend calls it nosey. LOL

Darned right. LOL

No...! hahaha... homework does not mean homework... more like... "homework"!
That is why I'm nervous... I was just texting to wish her a safe and enjoyable flight. And then she mentioned that I may have to do some homework before meeting her! 😢
That message sounded serious because there was no smiley and those "lol" thingys! That's why I'm nervous and stressed now!

So Bella... why do you give people a hard time!? 😢
Issn't love suppose to be simple! lol..

Erm.. nope.. I didn't ask her how old she was.. because to me it didn't really matter =p She's from the same country as I am..
But am I thinking too much?! Why was there no smileys in the message!! 😢
Haha... I feel nervous because the message sounded serious!

Woops! I misunderstood you Cappyboy. 'Homework' here means school work. House work is your daily roster of hilarity.
Bells caught it though. 🙂

No umm she knows I'm already working so homework does not mean school work.. haha..
Yea.. I only know she's a 4th May Taurus... that's about it..
If I were to guess her birth year... maybe 86.. or 87.. but then the reading wont be accurate..
So Taurus are serious when they want to have fun?

Wow... so umm DaBull... since you share the same birthdate I should pay more attention to what you are saying =p It would be even better if you share the same birth year.. haha!

Life is hard... make love simple! =)

Hey people!
So I managed to get her birth date.. which is 4th May 1986 and mine which is 8th Jan 1982..
but I don't know how to read the charts... can anyone teach me? Bella!! =)

OH NO I have a Gemini moon... and she has a Pisces moon!!!! 😢(

oooooooooooh-eeeeeeeeeeeeeem-geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! when is this date!?!?!?!

i can only pray that you're relaxed when you go on this date because at the end of the day, none of this stuff matters if you're not being yourself. if you go into it with a month's worth of "helpful" info from us and astrology as a whole, it may backfire. you'll be framing her in terms of what other people believe or what a book/website says vs. taking her as she is.

you...need...to...relax. be you. go on the date and be yourself and hopefully that's an attractive, confident, self-assured, warm, interesting, open yet mysterious man. be a man 🙂 that's all you have to do. the rest of this is interesting but personally, i'm worried you might be sabotaging it with info-overload.

Haha.. the date is today!.. And I'm nervous as hell!! =)

But all the advice given here have been great so far.. Thanks everyone!

Hey everyone, thanks for all the advice given!

The date went great and I think I do stand a chance of winning her over! =)

Oh that's terrific news! I do so like good news. Whoohoooo Cappyboy! 🙂 🙂 🙂

I like this guy. LOL
Looks like someone I can learn from.
Just a heads up for you (to ease your worry about compatibility) you are born the year after me and your lady friend is the year after the lady I have my eye on. Your Chinese animals ARE compatible. And (in my 'homework') I have found the Chinese zodiac to relate to longevity, as opposed to the microwave age western astrology... which seems to worry you.
*shivers* ahhhh! May taurus women... something about them. Just take the lasts' advice here, especially concerning patience.
Wish you the best my friend.

Ladies' advice... not lasts. Damn spell suggested... more like spell forcer.

Hmm.. well I managed to get a second date with her.. so I guess everything is going fine so far haha!
God bless the Capricorn + Taurus attraction =p

Whoop whoop! Second date with Taur-US! Second date with Taur-US! *doing the conga*

Hello everyone!
The second date went great, we are talking alot more thru SMSes and in MSN as well.
I got this gut feeling from the conversations that she is probably willing to accept me. For the next date she did mention that her sister wants to come along to meet me. I'm fine with that, I'm thinking about asking her to go into a more exclusive relationship with me on the 4th date. Just wanted to know what the ladies think.
Thanks for the feedback in advance and thanks for all the help so far!

I'm so happy for you, truly I am. Introducing you to her sister is a big deal. That's family. 🙂

works for me. like purpledot said, knowing where i stand in a situation makes me relaxed/comfortable. if a guy that i like asks for an exclusive agreement, i'm all for it. i'd say that if the chemistry is there, she will welcome such an arrangement. and even if it's not a "magical" bond or early in a relationship, if she's not juggling more than one set of balls, she'll have the "why not?" attitude. it's easier to see where things go when you don't have to worry about what the other person is doing and with whom. so go for it 🙂

@magician - we don't get hurt by domineering men. i think, in general, we're attracted to alpha-male types. what made my relationship with my leo-ex difficult wasn't his "my way" mentality. at the end of the day, i'll only do what i want anyway 😛

the issue was my feeling the need to submit to avoid conflict. contrary to internet belief, i hate drama. at the first sign of it, i shut down and the only time i'll engage is when someone has said/done something utterly stupid/false. until then, you'll find this bull staring into space and maybe mumbling here and there so the dramatic folk know i'm not comatose.

so with the leo, where another sign might be able to argue trivialities and have the leo walk away in dignity and still feeling superior, when a bull and lion argue, the leo's ego will ultimately get bruised. and MY GOD, there's nothing like a wounded lion. the time i'd then have to spend putting him back on his pedestal was exhausting! better to avoid knocking him off in the first place. in short, one word to describe a bull-lion union - eggshells and that can get very old, very quick. unfortunately, as fixed signs, ain't nobody going nowhere so the bull will suffer in silence.

That's a lovely Taurus compliment magician, thanks. 🙂

magician...

Forgive me if i find that hard to believe or that i feel you are just saying that because of your taurean pride ,BUT i don't think so my fair lady .

has nothing to do with pride. if you're not the type to rock the boat and suddenly rock it, the passengers may be flung into the water.

I know that bulls are said to be strong and whatnot and violent but believe me i doubt any leo male will back down to any bull( male orfemale) in any contest

i don't know where folks get this violent notion from about taurus. yes, we have the potential for an ugly temper but we don't charge unless provoked and for this bull, it takes a helluva lot to get me there. we can't simultaneously be the most patient sign of the zodiac and stark raving mad. it takes me A LOT and a LONG TIME to truly get me upset. loved ones are far more likely to see temper flare but violent, unexplained temper...i think of fire signs.

The way i see it if a bull bruises my ego i will not just walk away like a nice lil princess , there will be a double beating in reverse . I think you are misunderstanding us by constantly calling us "warm kitties" yeah that's true around our loved ones ! But if anyone else injustly tries to hurt us believe me you will see a sadistic lion.

uhm...i'm not talking about leo's public persona which is just a crock. it's false bravado. a leo is simultaneously confident and insecure. i've had the pleasure of experiencing both with the leos i know. which is why i know how to chip at that ego. that's not to say that the lion won't fight back. yes, you can topple them but never presume the battle is over. which is why i said the process of putting the leo back on a pedestal is exhausting. it means taking one for the team. giving the illusion that they've one when in reality, you've tactically chosen to do what it takes to build them up. not all bulls do this but i do and have.

why'd you hide it?

eh, we're off topic anyway.

oh well, i don't hide. the thread is already 9 pages long based on two dates. things are going well so at this rate, it'll take 100 pages before they're married.

@magician, that's just it. yes, you do have BS detectors because you're bullshitter's yourselves. but what you fail to realize is that you're comments are based on a leo's relations with the outside world. a lover/friend/child of a leo, knows the leo intimately and if smart, knows how to get what they want. at times, the leo will know they're being manipulated but will appreciate being hoisted up. at others, the leo won't have a clue.

an example would be, playing a game. sometimes the non-leo will win. at that point, a friendly game becomes a HUGE deal. so you have a choice...do your best and risk potentially winning and NEVER playing a game you like again. or tactically forfeit a game or two to give the leo the illusion they stand a chance.

yes, we discussed on page 3 that the tarzan approach would be the best option...ok, i made up that page number but seriously, we did tell him that tarzan-jane approach works wonders in the short-term. but i don't think it would come natural to him. he's better off being himself. it's working thus far.

Thanks magician for the lovely compliment to us Bull Ladies. My Leo used to say what you said too. He loved that I was able to take care of myself, but also be a lady and take care of his needs too. Leo's can tend to be braggarts, but that's not a bad thing in a sense, because if they like you, they will brag about you; which he always did w/his friends. The down side was a few times his friends were paying a little bit too much attention to me, and as the Lion is known to do, he would swoop in and be glued to my side and show that he...was the alpha male and nobody better be sniffing around his Bull! LMAO! But he would always say he wasn't a jealous person...ummm, yeah right. I never would give him compliments that weren't sincere. I really did think he was one of the smartest, sexiest, best kissing/lovers I'd ever been with. Tauruses don't like BS either, so that was in our favor. He never would lie to me about anything (which is a blessing and a curse), but I always knew that anything he would say would be the truth no sugar coating. I do read that Bulls and Lions are not a match made in heaven; however, I don't know why. Both the Leo and Taurus tend to be fiercely loyal; protective of their family and friends, and passionate lovers. Sigh...every relationship has their difficulties regardless of sign.

uhm...look at two famous leos...clinton and obama. in spite of their public/private failings, they're both scared of "mama"...their wives. bill and hillary may be dysfunctional but she stays with him as much as he stays with her...she's a scorp after all.

Hillary does NOT play! She is a no holds barred; take no prisoners woman! People may not like her, but she should be respected...imho.

USC - bull fems/leo males are difficult like any fixed sign union is difficult. i never felt more in-tune with anyone as i did with my leo and aqua ex's. we were so much alike in good ways but for some reason, it was bad.

i think a leo respects a strong woman but i think they simultaneously question if that's what they need. my leo told me on convo #2 that he wasn't sure he wanted to talk to me again. why? because i'm headstrong and he's headstrong. so those stubborn moments can make things difficult, if not that...

leos have to be king of the manor. what happens if a taurus woman earns more money than a leo man? that's what i think ultimately made my relationship difficult. i couldn't speak of my successes without feeling as if we were competing.

^^^leos love the IDEA of power but unlike a scorp who can stomach a woman who earns more...a leo, can not. at least not in the long term. i just don't see many unions where the taurus woman earns more working out.

leo men don't read either 😛

i said a scorp man is far more willing to stomach a situation where the woman earns more. an aqua on the other hand would have the same difficulties as the leo. it's not to say they won't get in a relationship where they earn less but it will be difficult for them.

i'm not sure how taurus men would respond but maybe taurus men can stomach a woman who earns more money?

and as USC said, bill is scared of hillary. cheating has nothing to do with fear. as a scorp, she's about power. she knows that a divorce will not help either of them in the long run. she stayed with the bastard for a multitude of reasons but don't sleep, she's not stupid or being played at this point.

wow, i am so sick of internet sensitivities. between leos and virgos, i don't know who gets wounded more by lack of praise.

my mom was a leo, my dad was a leo, my first crush is a love, my first lust is a leo...so not sure what you mean about bitter. sorry you don't do "real" very well. is this when i begin stroking that ego? 😛

sorry, as USC said, hillary is bout it/doesn't play. i said bill was skurred. i bet he's had pot of hot grits thrown on him at some point in their relationship.

actually, they're sensual, manly and confident. but whatever you want to believe.

notice, you fish for the compliment. you get the compliment. you believe the compliment to be true...because it is. watch the kitties purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

manipulating a leo - yes, the compliments must be sincere. the manipulation comes in knowing when/where/how to stroke that ego. USC just stroked the hell out of you. MEOW!

you're just hyped up on that praise i just gave your sign.