Cancer & Virgo

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Hello .. I am also new one here and read few other posts just to see that Virgo men are probably very very similar. I am in the exactly same situation as most of others asking about how to deal with Virgo man. So here is my story and please, don't tear me up to pieces 🙂

I like and have feelings for this Virgo man. We are "seeing" each other for a year and two months now and progress is "speed" of a snail. We would see each other probably every two weeks, few texts in between, everything on his time and decision. After few weeks I got upset and asked him if he is really sure he likes me because I am not used to, or don't know or understand, what is happening. To me it is clear, if someone is into me, they call, can't wait to see me, etc. He was just so different, taking things veeeeeery slowly. He said that he is very into me, it takes time and he is taking things slow. So I tried to get used to this totally new behavior for me.

He is a lovely man. Work is for him #1 worry, very clean - almost extremely, very observant, very smart, funny and very interesting. What drives me nuts is these withdrawals. We would spend time - few hours together, then he would leave, later or next day he will send text that he had an awesome time with me, and I won't hear from him for a week, or few days. Seldom he responds to my texts, cellphone is not attached to his hip as he is saying, and prefers emails communication.

Are all Virgos like that? Sometimes I really think that I am only entertaining myself and see things I want to see, but then I see him and everything, all my doubts are gone ... just to be back when he leaves. Yes, I feel insecure because he is very different from all men I ever knew and can't put a finger on what is going on. I tested him so many times - not by playing games - but gave him an option to get out, asked questions and his responses and reactions were the right ones.

So here I am, having feelings for this Virgo but want to speed things up ... he told his mom, he is very close with (he is an only child) about me, as a girl he really likes, and asked me if I told my mom. When I asked him if he wants to meet my friends, he said to set up something, but all this happened after 13 months being friends - that's what he calls us.

And now to the intimate part ... we didn't get intimate until he asked me to get to next level - that's how he called it. That was after 3 full months, going 4th seeing each other. There are days when we are t
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Continue as I see some is missing:

And now to the intimate part ... we didn't get intimate until he asked me to get to next level - that's how he called it. That was after 3 full months, going 4th seeing each other. There are days when we are together and intimate is not happening, we just talk and getting to know each other better. I am fine with all that, but again my worry is that I am getting emotional, I am Cancer after all, and sometimes it takes a lot for me to keep my cool and not explode.

What should I do? Except growing more and more patience?
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Tutisko
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Thank you for responses. Yes, it seems that way. I am giving his space and not rushing, trying to be patient. I guess Virgos are like that so it is a choice for me. So far the "liking him" is bigger then "not liking him" for all that withdrawals and silence periods.

@Ixion120 - how much time do you need to get to know one? We've met on October 30, 2012 ... so I would think it's time 🙂
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Shescomeundone
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Sounds so familiar... I like you sometimes think I'm imagining the feelings we have for each other... IMO all very good advice you have been givin here...it's like you have these wonderful moments together which makes you want more! I think the Virgo wants more too so he retreats to analyse this deep feeling. He has experienced to make sure it's all heading in the direction he wants!! Good luck! Patience is essential it seems!!!
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Thank you all 🙂 Entire my life I was dating Pisces or Aries only (I know - so not compatible with Cancer - but I was always attracted to Aries's strong personalities), so this Virgo "thing" is so new and so different to me.
Sometimes, when emotions hit, Cancer's "curse" 🙂 I start to doubt that he likes me and want to just give up because I see it as signs of ignorance and not interest, but then we meet and there he is, an awesome man and human being.
So I am growing an extra strong patience with him, btw, I haven't heard from him since Tuesday, he didn't reply to my text or email 🙂 but what else is new? I know that he is immersed in work project, but my Cancer mind doesn't understand it completely - this withdrawal.
But again OK, he is analysing 🙂 There is lot to analyse, December was an intense month for us and our friendship/relationship as things got little bit more intense in terms of getting really close emotionally.
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Tutisko
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Oh I didn't see all those messages before I hit send.

Well, that's a good point/question, if I want to wait years for him to make it official. I was ready to give up then he told me about his mom knowing about me, so it in a way stopped me in my own process to get out there and get to know other people. That was something new and since he is very close with his mom I found it as a huge progress.

Oh yeah, you can tell me now that he could make it up for me, but there was no reason for him to tell me that and he never lied or made up stuff for me, so I don't doubt this man. Also his questions about my life style , observations, etc. are telling me that he is going thru some learning/planning mode. I will give him few more months ... but the reason for me posting questions here was to hear opinions on how other Virgos are since I don't really know them 🙂
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Posted by CluelessCancer
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Virgos need space. If our partner doesn't get this, conflict will follow.



Not true, they only need space when they want to manipulate you into doing what they want.

They're control freaks.
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Are you actually contradicting a Virgo on our nature? Oh noes, the delusion goes further than I imagined.

It's all good CC, at least we stay out of your life and you out of ours.
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CluelessCancer ... are you saying that Virgo and Cancer are not good match ... somewhere I've read they are ...🙂



That's exactly what i'm saying. Google is not the best place to figure these things out. Just read about all the cancer/virgo issues here and you'll realize .

WASTE OF TIME!
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Cancer and Virgo works very well. Just be there for him and make sure you get what you give. Good luck
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Posted by VirgoChyld
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by Damnata
Virgos need space. If our partner doesn't get this, conflict will follow.



Not true, they only need space when they want to manipulate you into doing what they want.

They're control freaks.


Lol CC your funny, cancers are manipulative on a subtle level.


lmao
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It must be other placements....😉
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Posted by VirgoChyld
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by Damnata
Virgos need space. If our partner doesn't get this, conflict will follow.



Not true, they only need space when they want to manipulate you into doing what they want.

They're control freaks.


Lol CC your funny, cancers are manipulative on a subtle level.



I don't know what your talking about.
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Lmao! OK I'll play along
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Tustisko... He doesn't seem to be very into you. That's not to say you can't get him into a relationship if you tried. Any woman that is stubborn and desperate enough can get almost any man into a relationship. But that doesn't mean he will love you the way you DESERVED to be loved. I agree with CC on this. Cut ties and be done with it.

But if you need more than that I would suggest being upfront about your feelings and asking him where he stands in the commitment situation. It's been over a year. If he hasn't figured out by now he will never figure it out. Wouldn't you rather have a man who knows when he loves you rather than a man that is unsure or have to be convinced that he loves you?? I suggest burning this bridge... but that's just me.

BTW I've had Virgo experience before didn't work out well... and of course just because you give them options to leave, and they won't, doesn't mean that they will even if they don't have strong feelings for you. So, it's YOUR responsibility to take it up on yourself to get out if he isn't treating or loving you the way you want. Of course if this is you want... a relationship where there is a lot of uncertainties then you should keep working on it.
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Totally agree with all posts, even those funny and harsh - I see that there is a kind way of you trying to help me to see the reality and what I am worth, etc. I know all of that ... but as everybody, on all other topics are "fighting" with is that feeling of love ...

I didn't provide more details on him, so here it is: as right Virgo he cleans bathroom after he uses it, he removes shoes in my house, he washes dishes after drink and meal - that's the Virgo part I see in him, very clean. Here is the part I see in him carrying about me as a person: very respectful, never fake while calling me by nice names, carrying, lace up my shoes, opens the doors, behaving very respectful and nice, I have absolutely no doubt that he enjoys any minute with me, sends lovely texts after each time we see each other, admitted that he as a man doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve but it doesn't mean they are not in his heart, sweet moments when we talk, helping me around my house, fixing things in the house and while doing it is very sweet, random innocent kisses, etc. After two weeks of traveling he said that he missed me. So ... those are all signs for me that he is into me and cares about me and has feelings for me. Am I so wrong to have feelings for him? All that feels like we are in this romance as we should be and as I know it is.

So what seems to be a problem? Withdrawals for few days in between we see each other. Absolutely no communication in between, after he emerges from that cave he went into. Oh, trust me I probed him on other woman being involved in his life ... reactions and the way he talked didn't indicate confirmation of my suspicions. From what I am reading this is the way Virgos are. He admitted being in previous relationship which hurt him and she mistreated him. There is a stigma from that time, there is something about cell phones and texts he is allergic little bit - so my intuition is telling me that she didn't trust him and was always checking his cell phone and texts, what else it can be. I am not sure why they broke up, never asked but form little info here and there he said I got the impression that she cheated on him and was little bit abusive.

I am not asking what to do, but want to hear more about Virgos from Virgos as I want to understand him. I want to see the world thru Virgo eyes and not thru Cancer emotions - I know that all well 🙂

So now, tear me up to pieces 🙂

P.S.
P.Angel - I enjoy all your comments @ other posts, a
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You can do so much better!

Good luck.




I know I can BUT, how about I will have to live with questions and possible regrets that I lost probably the best guy just because I didn't understand his sign and ways? That's why I am asking Virgos if these are signs of Virgo or signs of ignorance and I live in bliss 🙂

CC - were you hurt in your life by someone, or many? Sorry to ask, but I can detect some kind of pain in your words. Nothing personal, please don't get offended, that's not my purpose of asking.
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Are all Virgos like that? Sometimes I really think that I am only entertaining myself and see things I want to see, but then I see him and everything, all my doubts are gone ... just to be back when he leaves. Yes, I feel insecure because he is very different from all men I ever knew and can't put a finger on what is going on. I tested him so many times - not by playing games - but gave him an option to get out, asked questions and his responses and reactions were the right ones.





If this guy has all of the qualities you seek in and friend and a mate, distance yourself for him and work on yourself. If work is his #1, keep yourself busy. he will know that you have other things to worry about. Don't get emotional. Treat him as you usually do, but just make sure you are your #1. priority. He will come around and he will see what you are about.
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Totally agree with all posts, even those funny and harsh - I see that there is a kind way of you trying to help me to see the reality and what I am worth, etc. I know all of that ... but as everybody, on all other topics are "fighting" with is that feeling of love ...

I didn't provide more details on him, so here it is: as right Virgo he cleans bathroom after he uses it, he removes shoes in my house, he washes dishes after drink and meal - that's the Virgo part I see in him, very clean. Here is the part I see in him carrying about me as a person: very respectful, never fake while calling me by nice names, carrying, lace up my shoes, opens the doors, behaving very respectful and nice, I have absolutely no doubt that he enjoys any minute with me, sends lovely texts after each time we see each other, admitted that he as a man doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve but it doesn't mean they are not in his heart, sweet moments when we talk, helping me around my house, fixing things in the house and while doing it is very sweet, random innocent kisses, etc. After two weeks of traveling he said that he missed me. So ... those are all signs for me that he is into me and cares about me and has feelings for me. Am I so wrong to have feelings for him? All that feels like we are in this romance as we should be and as I know it is.

So what seems to be a problem? Withdrawals for few days in between we see each other. Absolutely no communication in between, after he emerges from that cave he went into. Oh, trust me I probed him on other woman being involved in his life ... reactions and the way he talked didn't indicate confirmation of my suspicions. From what I am reading this is the way Virgos are. He admitted being in previous relationship which hurt him and she mistreated him. There is a stigma from that time, there is something about cell phones and texts he is allergic little bit - so my intuition is telling me that she didn't trust him and was always checking his cell phone and texts, what else it can be. I am not sure why they broke up, never asked but form little info here and there he said I got the impression that she cheated on him and was little bit abusive.

I am not asking what to do, but want to hear more about Virgos from Virgos as I want to understand him. I want to see the world thru Virgo eyes and not thru Cancer emotions - I know that all well 🙂

So now
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You are so sweet T-T... it really touches me. I don't know your whole story and I'm not in your shoes, neither am I in his shoes. It is really good that you are trying to understand him. The best way to connect is empathy and the best way to empathy is to understand. Just be careful that on the way to understanding you don't lose yourself. That being said, there is only so much understanding a person can do. You can definitely empathize but you will never see things through his eyes... and neither will you get there through the eyes of other people that have never met him or know who he is. My point is, be careful of the path you go down, because it is a very easy to get lost where you're going.

A lot of the times when people want to completely understand someone or "see things through another perspective" it's because what their partner is telling them is not enough, they want more control in a situation they really have no control over. With that in mind, even if you could see through his point of view it would not change where you guys stand right now... which is not in a committed relationship and not where you want to be... the relationship is not moving where you want it to go. And it won't move that way with the more "understanding" you do.

I know you're not asking for advice but being an Aries (so stubborn and full of herself 😛) I'm going to give it to you anyway. Don't go down that path of understanding because it usually lead girls to read more into a situation than they really should and they end up getting heart broken and what not. You need to see him as he really is and not the way you WANT to see him. That means, take his words for what they are and don't read into them. If he really does love you and he's just taking it slow... let him take it slow because when he does give you his love you want it to come from a place of authenticity not because you forced him to (let him give what he wants to give) and the more you dig into "understanding" what exactly he thinks of you when he''s told you it will only make you more anxious for things to happen when they are not and you will end up pushing him into something he's not ready for.

So if you're not happy with the situation of not being a committed relationship then get out. But if you are willing to be patient and wait THEN WAIT but don't pile on all these expectations. I'm not saying to play games. Tell him where you stand but don't expect him to reciprocate exactly how you feel..
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Tell him where you stand but don't expect him to reciprocate exactly how you feel... the reason you haven't is because you're afraid... you are afraid because a part of you feel like he doesn't care for you the way you feel for him.

I'll stop babbling and leave you with this. See him for what he is not the way you WANT to see him. That means only keep things that are hard true facts and the fact is he told you he does NOT want to be in a committed relationship... it doesn't mean you have to leave him for that reason BUT if you stay you have to respect his wishes and be happy with it with NO manipulating. Be happy with what you have... appreciate it because it is a lot more than what other women get.
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Xtina - very nice reply, thank you for that. You are 100% right and I appreciate your advice (I always liked Aries for their no bs approach and straightforwardness).

He never said that he doesn't want to be in a committed relationship, he said that it take him longer to get there than other people. OK, I can live with that.

Now I am thinking that if I would not pressure him last year maybe, but again maybe, we would be elsewhere today. But again I might be wrong. So this year I decided not to overwhelm him with my emotions and pressure him, but will be there when he feels he needs me.

Of course I am not stopping to live my life. If I meet another guy who will interest me I will go for a coffee. I am not that type of girl to sit at home and wait for a man. I have my hobbies, my work, my friends to do things.

Of course I would love to do more things with him, but I will change my ways this year and will see the difference, OR I won't see a difference and that probably will be the signal to have that serious conversation about where this friendship (with benefits - sight) is going.

I just want him to give what he wants to give, and when he is ready. Well, that's the Virgo. :🙂

Thank you bunch!!!


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Its nice to see a thread stay positive regardless of the attempts to push it over the edge.

My brother is the only other Cancer I know and we get along well until we don't then its a fight and then its over and its as if it never happened.

People watch us do this time and again and they seem baffled by the lack of grudge holding.

I just say logic revails. Even if we seem firm in our position we do accept the other's position and it seeps into our understanding of the topic.

In a love match I wouldn't describe this as something I would want. I doubt we are typical of virgo and cancer interactions.
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I find when I try to understand someone, it helps me to be more patient and aware. Gaining understanding is good thing as long as you don't lose yourself or your perspective from an objective point of view.




Thank you! This is the exact reason why I came here. To hear more about Virgos from Virgos. To understand and be aware, therefore patient. At this point I feel that this relationship/friendship is worth it and I'll give it more patience and time. He never did hurt me, abused me, lied or did anything malicious so I had to forgive him and lower my expectations I have for a man. Only those moments of silence, times when he goes to his man cave 🙂 that's the only flaw I see for now. Do I want to be in hot romance every day? Of course! Do I want to be spoiled by my man daily? Of course! Is he ready to do that? Not yet ... Does he want to do it? We shall see ... I'll never find out if I let go. How long do I want to wait? Until that first mistake, he mistreat me, or hurt me or does something wrong. Until then I'm hopelessly devoted to this Virgo 🙂

Again, thank you all!!! And good luck to all of us 🙂
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i'm in the same exact situation as you hun, im a virgo pursuing a cancer. smh, my best advice is time will only tell.



Oh, I can give you tips on Cancers, as I am one 🙂. Virgos are mystery to me 🙂
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lol and it all depends on his birth chart as well. i suggest asking when and where was he born? "time of birth" and "city of birth" he is just more than his virgo sign. so yall should get your birth chart compablities checked out 😄
and trust me not all virgos the same lol. im far different than being "critical" and "organized" lmfao. but yeah you should give me tips on cancers. i am having such difficulty with this guy smh. i wish you the best of luck!
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You have describe my relationship with my virgo. Well except for the intimacy - that moved fast. There were many times I wanted to give up on him but something keep me attached.

Now he pretty much lives with me - since mid november there have only been 3 times that he hasn't been here.
He has talked of changing he address - hasn't yet.
He has talked of bring all his stuff - has some here but not all.
His son is here - but even he hasn't brought his stuff - he lives out a bag.

He is here but there really isn't that much more time together. He does his thing.
All that time I wasted wondering what he was doing (months when he wasn't around) was wasted time -- he wasn't doing anything but either sleeping, watching tv or playing video games (in his free time away from work)

Now I have him here. And I would say, we are in a transition time. I am adjusting to living with a man after many years of being single.

My independent self thought she wanted him - and for the most part I do. But I have to learn to not change my routine for him. And I like my alone time, my weekday routine, my healthy eating habits to his unhealthy ones, etc.

My advice - have patience. Or at least learn about it. And enjoy your alone time, stay busy and do your thing. You will need that.
I also agree with CC. I do love this man but I also know that it is not easy. They are a cranky, moody, whiny, nit-picky bunch.
I've learned from the site, I've learned from past posts. I have learned about virgos and mostly about myself.

I am now in a live in relationship and well, like a cancer, I am content but not fully.
I want more sex, more communication, more intimacy, more growth in the relationship and as I write this, he is asleep on the couch next to me, again. He's been like that since 9. In that time, I managed to do some work online, prep for taxes, workout an hour, shower and eat dinner.
He snores.
lol
I am not making any rash decisions until I know what I want. In the meantime, this is my life.