Hermes as the Earth expression of Mercury

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Hey there, folks.

I've been encountering interesting materials lately, and I'd like to point out the reason for the creation of this topic. Here it is:

"In the days of "myth", it was Mercury's earth side, Hermes, who guided souls to the underworld after their time expired on planet Earth. Mercury was the only one both quick enough, brave enough, and detached enough to venture into the underworld and manage to come out unscathed."

According to the source (http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtp95_e.htm</a><BR>
It's pretty interesting to make such a comparison with Hermes Trismegistus, don't you think?
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"Wasn't Thoth the scribe?

Yes. He was the inventor of language and of writing and functioned as the scribe, or record keeper of the gods. This is the difference between the Mercury which rules Gemini, which is the messenger of the gods, and the Mercury which rules Virgo, which is the scribe of the gods - a more earthy, practical figure. The function of record keeping gives us some important clues about Virgo. There is a sort of ritual about record keeping, isn't there? It has a pleasure of its own. If you are wired in this particular way, the construction of neat columns of figures can be particularly satisfying, as can the feeling of creating order out of chaos, sorting the wheat from the chaff."

There is absolutely nothing else to say. That's where Virgo receives her exaltation as a transcendental figure, which is totally capable of achieving the purity of consciousness, allowing it to reach higher mental planes as well.

I recommend you to look at this interesting material as well:
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So... what do you think?



Great post, Shul!

I absolutely agree on this, and I love the inflections of mythology on astrology in the way you have done this article.

In a previous post, I sought to illuminate Mercury's (Hermes') various incarnations. First as a young man with nary a care for propriety, Mercury indulged his more mischievous side in relaying his divine messages or in doing as he was bid to do.
In this first incarnation, he was more prone to devising creative ways that would test the limits of a god's patience or honor. And, in some ways, this incarnation was good for the growth of his victims. This relation of mischief birthing the true/unseen qualities of the gods and Mercury's other victims is presented in the duality of Gemini.

However, in Mercury's second incarnation in Virgo, where he has been made to face responsibility to family, and then to learn as much as he can about responsibility to the society, Mercury now understands the importance of his role and how it affects others.
In effect, he transforms from a messenger to a guide using what he had learned in the incarnations of Cancer and Leo to reform and thus exhibit a kind of depth of knowledge which in turn grants him access to and from Hades. Perhaps, it is in this incarnation that he gains his true identity as a god. And maybe, even gain his place on Olympus.

On a personal level, having Mercury in the sign of Virgo in my natal chart is one of my most favored placements. Besides the ability to show concrete proof of Mercury's influence in mundane (day to day) activities, I imagine I'm able to write this more coherently because Mercury in this sign also gives a sense of satisfaction by fulfilling the higher purpose of sharing knowledge.
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Emphasis mine.

Explains perfectly why Virgo should be the Renaissance Man of the Zodiac. His life is not focused only on himself or his family, but also on the society as well. 🙂 He may even render services without expectation for any reward or recognition for his deep concern for the society and others is enough.

As if that is sufficient to explain my point, but no. He also fulfills his duties as perfectly as he could, to the best of his abilities and skills, which should be pointed out to be of highest standard
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Explains perfectly why Virgo should be the Renaissance Man of the Zodiac. His life is not focused only on himself or his family, but also on the society as well. 🙂 He may even render services without expectation for any reward or recognition for his deep concern for the society and others is enough.

As if that is sufficient to explain my point, but no. He also fulfills his duties as perfectly as he could, to the best of his abilities and skills, which should be pointed out to be of highest standards - for his pursuit for perfection since the beginnings of his life has gifted him remarkable talents and skills, marked with precision and refinement.

Honor and Excellence is the motto of a Virgo. He excels in whatever endeavor he may pursue, but with all his principles intact. He is more of an idealist, which makes him the perfect Renaissance Man of the Zodiac. Although he recognizes that being practical makes everything more efficient, he cannot and will not compromise the most universal principles of integrity and honesty... for he knows, that by keeping these principles intact, he is not only doing favor to others and the society but also to himself and his family.

For me, that is the mark of being a true Virgo.
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I'd like to add that Hermes applied the Mercury in Virgo model for the practical purpose of astrology, theurgy and alchemy in his teachings. Hermeticism is heavily based on this principle. Especially alchemy. Also, Virgo is said to govern meditation and illumination on personal level.

"Mercury in Virgo — Mind adept at the processes of meditation. (Virgo rules meditation in the sequence: Concentration, Meditation, Contemplation, Illumination. Inspiration, Initiation, Identification.)"

Very interesting stuff indeed.
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Posted by SanchoElMejor
This is a really cool concept, but I don't see it's relation to the Ancient Greek god Hermes. Hermes isn't the god of crafts, writing, or medicine.

Hermeticism sounds like a cult that is based on the misinformation of the Ancient Greek god Hermes. I say cult because Hermeticism could be cool, but I'm watching videos of its followers on youtube, and they aren't getting basic math correct. I should become one of them and make videos for youtube.



You weren't paying close attention.

I'm pointing out Hermes not as an ancient Greek deity, but as the living representative of higher knowledge and wisdom, whose name was Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus. He is the founder of ermeticism as applying this information. Sure, nowadays everything related to this sacred art has been completely twisted to the point of looking like a mere "cult", as you said, but I can assure you that hermeticism is so much more than you can imagine. It's not a religion, but a scientific teaching, which has always been deeply understood by very few.

Also, myths are born from some kind of truth. The ancients knew what they were doing, and they've decided to hide it and to expose it in the form of mythological fiction, so we could reveal its remarkable symbolism. Myths are just the pieces of a whole puzzle, but I don't expect many people to realize this.

Anyway, thank you for appreciating the materials.
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As I said before: that's not a cult.

In ancient times, there were many difficult tests for each candidate. One of them included 2 cups of wine which could show the motives of each individual. The first cup had a clean wine, but the second one was poisoned. The purpose was to reveal the true intentions of the individual.

Also, I'm highly mistrustful of Wikipedia's typical shallow (dis)information. Just seek other sources, if you can dig deeper than that. It's easy for a person to make superficial remarks towards something he/she doesn't know everything about at all. That shows nothing more but blissful ignorance.

Anyway, I don't expect everyone to understand what I'm trying to point out. It must be that Mercury/Pluto fusion which I have that makes everything difficult for anyone, lol.