I met this virgo man weeks ago and we talked about a lot of things and laughed a lot. We haven't seen each other for a number of days and he tells me he misses me and the things we shared with my friends. He tells my friends that he misses them but he misses me more because he really feels comfortable when he's with me and he loves talking to me. Last night we had a 4 hour phone call. We talked about a lot of things, he asked me a lot of questions and even gave me advices in some problems that have been bothering me. He asked me about the things I like in a guy and how I would react if someone would confess to me especially if that person is someone whom I've just met, etc. When the call ended, he said it's such a pleasure to talk to me and he really did enjoy his time. He always wants to make me happy and I can feel his concern towards me. Is this something platonic for a virgo guy or is it something more than that?
How do you know if a virgo man likes you?

:::: sighs ::::

Yosarrian must've caught his "fishing for compliments to boost his ego due to insecurities" too. But I also believe he is in it for you. Run with it if he makes you happy. If he builds you up and instills a confidence in you take it and don't brush it off. He may have some confidence problems himself that need looking into but for now don't call him on it. Hope the best for you but strangely getting the feeling that you'll be back in here 4 months from now comlaining that he's disappeared and then came back toying with your mind. lol j/k just an inside joke about us Virgos.
Posted by Yossarian
In my own experience, 'Platonic' is a word in the Virgo Dictionary that means, "relationship I was unable to take any further".
I know a lot of Ladies in town , they smile and chat and are friendly in a, vaguely warm, good to see you kind of way. We are grand acquaintances, us, but we are not friends. There are a few that like to insinuate some deeper relationship when my wife is around, because well, that's what women do to piss each other off. Those woman are usually business contacts nothing more.
My point is, I don't have time to be friends with other woman. I am a fairly intense lover and I want my woman to know how much I cherish her, I want her to have no doubts. Also I think it is a Virgo male compulsion, I need to be her Prince, to sweep her off her feet and leave her breathless. It's what we do when we figure out who we want to be with.
So my opinion is no, he is not looking to be just a friend. He may be one of my less confident bretheren, who does not yet know his own powers, but he surely wants more than friendship.
Oh....Interesting, I didn't know virgo guys are like this ^^^^... How can I find me a nice virgo man like this?
After reading many post on the Virgo forum such as these confusing subtle flirtations or compliments, I say you enunciate the first move because the guy is too worried that he\'ll be rejected. Rejection is more harmful than the actual feeling of harm itself because the Virgo understands that his choice isn\'t going to all ways go his way. This is a power struggle they have when it comes to making decisions of simple yet complicated situations like relationships.
You shouldn\'t be worried, if you like him then ask him out, and if you are confident that this guy likes you then you know that his answer may be yes.
Question: Is he born on September?
I\'m curious to know because the same type of women (sorry if i generalize you) are linked to these enigmatic men of early to mid-September (3rd-10th of September).
You shouldn\'t be worried, if you like him then ask him out, and if you are confident that this guy likes you then you know that his answer may be yes.
Question: Is he born on September?
I\'m curious to know because the same type of women (sorry if i generalize you) are linked to these enigmatic men of early to mid-September (3rd-10th of September).
Thanks for the comments guys. I really appreciate it. 😄
Well, he asked me out before I did. We'll hang out tomorrow night. I'm confident that he does like me but the problem is, he has a girlfriend. He was an alumni in my previous school and he seems to wonder why we haven't met in school instead. There have been many instances that we could've met but it never happened. We talked on the phone again last night and when I asked him how he is he says he's great and is grateful for meeting a certain girl whom he enjoys talking to because she appreciates every little thing he says and loves spending time with her. Even with his tight schedule he makes time for her and even if they've just met he feels like they've already known each other for a long time. He told me I was that girl and he really cares about me.
I saw him this afternoon and we talked for a while. I felt something strange with the way he looks at me. He seems to be fascinated and he even complimented me. Does his status make him less sincere of what he has shown to me?
And yeah, he was born on September 4th.
Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
After reading many post on the Virgo forum such as these confusing subtle flirtations or compliments, I say you enunciate the first move because the guy is too worried that he\'ll be rejected. Rejection is more harmful than the actual feeling of harm itself because the Virgo understands that his choice isn\'t going to all ways go his way. This is a power struggle they have when it comes to making decisions of simple yet complicated situations like relationships.
You shouldn\'t be worried, if you like him then ask him out, and if you are confident that this guy likes you then you know that his answer may be yes.
Question: Is he born on September?
I\'m curious to know because the same type of women (sorry if i generalize you) are linked to these enigmatic men of early to mid-September (3rd-10th of September).
Well, he asked me out before I did. We'll hang out tomorrow night. I'm confident that he does like me but the problem is, he has a girlfriend. He was an alumni in my previous school and he seems to wonder why we haven't met in school instead. There have been many instances that we could've met but it never happened. We talked on the phone again last night and when I asked him how he is he says he's great and is grateful for meeting a certain girl whom he enjoys talking to because she appreciates every little thing he says and loves spending time with her. Even with his tight schedule he makes time for her and even if they've just met he feels like they've already known each other for a long time. He told me I was that girl and he really cares about me.
I saw him this afternoon and we talked for a while. I felt something strange with the way he looks at me. He seems to be fascinated and he even complimented me. Does his status make him less sincere of what he has shown to me?
And yeah, he was born on September 4th.

I truly wonder what is the matter with people, that they have to be told if another person likes them or not.
Do you feel yourself for other people? Do you like, or dislike other people?
If the answer is 'yes' ... can you recognize this? Or, do you have to be told that like or dislike another person?
If you met girls at a MaryKay party .. would someone have to tell you which ones of those girls you liked? And which ones liked you?
In my own life ... I know exactly which people like me and which people don't .. I knew this by age 6, maybe younger. I can go out right now to room full of new people and as I interact with each one, I can tell you which ones ....
1. are sexually attracted to me
2. are engaging my brain
3. snub thier noses up
4. are in awe
5. are bored with me
the list is forever ..... whatever reaction they have, or whatever action they take ... is easily recongizable, and furthermore, every one of my people beit friends and family ... yeah, all of them can tell if another person likes them or not.
So, what's your problem?
What's the problem with everyone in here who asks this kind of question?
If you cannot tell if another person likes you or not .. then you need to stop thinking about this other person and start working on yourself, because somethign is wrong with you.
Do you feel yourself for other people? Do you like, or dislike other people?
If the answer is 'yes' ... can you recognize this? Or, do you have to be told that like or dislike another person?
If you met girls at a MaryKay party .. would someone have to tell you which ones of those girls you liked? And which ones liked you?
In my own life ... I know exactly which people like me and which people don't .. I knew this by age 6, maybe younger. I can go out right now to room full of new people and as I interact with each one, I can tell you which ones ....
1. are sexually attracted to me
2. are engaging my brain
3. snub thier noses up
4. are in awe
5. are bored with me
the list is forever ..... whatever reaction they have, or whatever action they take ... is easily recongizable, and furthermore, every one of my people beit friends and family ... yeah, all of them can tell if another person likes them or not.
So, what's your problem?
What's the problem with everyone in here who asks this kind of question?
If you cannot tell if another person likes you or not .. then you need to stop thinking about this other person and start working on yourself, because somethign is wrong with you.

Posted by sydneyhughes27
Well, he asked me out before I did. We'll hang out tomorrow night. I'm confident that he does like me but the problem is, he has a girlfriend. He was an alumni in my previous school and he seems to wonder why we haven't met in school instead. There have been many instances that we could've met but it never happened. We talked on the phone again last night and when I asked him how he is he says he's great and is grateful for meeting a certain girl whom he enjoys talking to because she appreciates every little thing he says and loves spending time with her. Even with his tight schedule he makes time for her and even if they've just met he feels like they've already known each other for a long time. He told me I was that girl and he really cares about me.
I saw him this afternoon and we talked for a while. I felt something strange with the way he looks at me. He seems to be fascinated and he even complimented me. Does his status make him less sincere of what he has shown to me?
And yeah, he was born on September 4th.
He's definitely into you.
Based on what you are saying here, he's probably just trying to "groom you mentally" into being someone who he can be with, should his present relationship end.
That's what I would do, September 8th.

Posted by dreamer23Posted by sydneyhughes27
I'm confident that he does like me but the problem is, he has a girlfriend.
I think its ridiculous that you're more worried if he genuinely likes you than the fact that he has a girlfriend. He's with someone else. Should be game over.click to expand
Is this some kind of sick joke?
Well, it will feel like one when the joke is on you .... because that is the only outcome that will happen when this karma catches up to you.
You know he isn't available and you don't mind to proceed if he wanted to even at the expense of an innocent woman's heart.
I hate people like you.
He's definitely into you.
Based on what you are saying here, he's probably just trying to "groom you mentally" into being someone who he can be with, should his present relationship end.
That's what I would do, September 8th.
So Cajun, are you saying you hedge your bets? If she is someone you can/want to be with what happens to her? would you expect her to wait around in case your relationship in hand turns sour?
Posted by sydneyhughes27
Does his status make him less sincere of what he has shown to me?
If you are referring to his status as his birthday this:
And yeah he was born on September 4th.click to expand
then I will have to tell you some general information that i have accumulated within the past two years. I have noticed that men like him are generally in the chase for lust, excitement, and passion for the short-term. I wouldn't be surprised if he gives you that old Hot n' cold treatment, but i don't like to leave people thinking that i am being pessimistic to your affair, rather I am only being realistic with you on his conquest for your affection, which he'll be attracted to you for several months (I say 3 to 6 months, if not may be a year) *sorry for the judgment on my part*. Him having a girlfriend indicates that he is unstable and unfaithful to his partner(s), so you should see his current affair as a red flag.
Unless you just want to have fun then you can consider his approach and do what you both want, but if you want more, you should seek affection and stability elsewhere unless you want a broken heart from this player.
Several of the Virgo men on this site born around those birth dates, i have shown you, have indicated or stated their fair share of cheating and lack of attentiveness in peoples (women) emotional needs by being pompous, detached, and self-absorbed.
If it is not the status of his birthday but the status of his commitment to another women that is drawing you to question his stability on him being faithful to you, then you must honestly think about the possibility of allowing this guy into your heart knowing that he may cheat on his current girlfriend with you and wonder if he may do that to you with another woman. (This can become a cycle, and you honestly don\'t want to be involved in a love triangle)
Who knows, if you are willing to have an open relationships then may be you will feel less stress from his wondering.
These men are very complex and confusing, that is all i can say. 😢
Who knows, if you are willing to have an open relationships then may be you will feel less stress from his wondering.
These men are very complex and confusing, that is all i can say. 😢
*CORRECTION*
Who knows, if you are willing to have an open-door relationship with him then you shouldn\'t bothered by him wondering astray in your relationship because you can do the same. 😉
(Yeah, that is a bad one...)
Well, he did say, you are the women he cares for deeply, so we can all assume that he wants you.
Who knows, if you are willing to have an open relationships then may be you will feel less stress from his wondering.
Who knows, if you are willing to have an open-door relationship with him then you shouldn\'t bothered by him wondering astray in your relationship because you can do the same. 😉
(Yeah, that is a bad one...)
Well, he did say, you are the women he cares for deeply, so we can all assume that he wants you.
Posted by Lena282Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
Question: Is he born on September?
What type of women? My Virgo falls into that slot =/click to expand
It is up to you to decide 😄

Posted by seadream
So Cajun, are you saying you hedge your bets? If she is someone you can/want to be with what happens to her? would you expect her to wait around in case your relationship in hand turns sour?
Never, I would never ask any woman to wait on me.
I just make an effort to plant the "Seed of Thought" that we could be together, something I nurture with infrequent conversation and the occasional "hang out". So that if I do become single, I would not have to start fresh.
Cajunspirit\'s method of keeping women on the rebound (I\'m not trying to make the situation look bad) pretty much summed up this Virgo guy that this lady is experiencing (and many cases on this forum) in a nutshell.
Posted by Lena282
It is up to you to decide 😄
oh so the awesome kind?😛
Better be awesome, or you'll be false advertising the powers of jesus!
;D

Posted by Let*It*Be
^^that's exactly what you are doing, stringing her along, making her wait, only worse, it's deceptive & misleading IMO.
I don't believe so. Stringing along, in my opinion, involves false promises, deception and overt emotional displays.
The man in question, let her know upfront he is in a relationship but is still attracted to her.
How is it stringing along, if the other person knows exactly where you stand?

Posted by Scorporella
But she doesn't know exactly where she stands if you "plant the "Seed of Thought" that we could be together
Clarity is one of the things I strive for.
If she "doesn't know where she stands", after all is said and done, then the failure of communication and interpretation is on her part.
What you do Cajun, is keep a woman "on the hook."
It's my specialty 🙂
If she likes you, if she feels that the two of you could have something together, and if you "plant the 'Seed of Thought'" that the two of you could be together, it strings her along.
No, it does not.
It is her choice, at this point on how to perceive and act on things.
A woman isn't like a man, doesn't have the same thought process as a man. You may think that by keeping her thinking you could have something together isn't stringing her along, but to a woman, when a man makes her think the two of them could be together, she doesn't think about the "could be", she thinks about "being together." While you may feel that what you do isn't deceptive or offers any false promises, in a sense it very much is, especially if in the process of your nurturing the thought that "you could be together" she develops feelings for you.
How can you exempt that woman from fault here?
When it is clearly THEY who choose to think beyond what was discussed.
Virgos operate on facts, not fiction.
While you are just planning for a possibility if your relationship doesn't work out, she is planning for the eventuality of when you will follow through on the "Seed of Thought" you planted. You are thinking like a man, she is thinking like most women.click to expand
There is little one can do to avoid this. But an honest man will let you know exactly what's going on.
If you choose to persecute him for this, so be it. Just be prepared to fall for dishonest men, that's all.

Posted by Let*It*Be
Unless you are telling the female, (as you put it where you stand),,, oh and by the way, I'm just "planting a seed of thought" with you and just showing up from time to time to "nurture" with "infrequent conversation" & "hang out" occasionally because "IF I do become single", I won't have to waste my time settling with you. I highly doubt ANY female unless very stupid, desperate & naive when told this will sit and hope it happens. Let's be realistic here. Of course you are not going to tell her what you are up to because it's deceptive.
What I have shared with you all, is a sub-conscious behavioural explanation.
I have never been accused of leading a woman on, so I am pretty sure it comes down to what and how information is conveyed.
You may see it as deception, but I am sure a lot of others would not.
Being deceptive is saying you're not in a relationship, when you are.
Is saying you love someone, when all you want is sex.
Is saying you were not somewhere, when you were.
Telling a woman you're in a relationship but still find her attractive and that you wonder what possibilities exist, is being honest and upfront.
NOT telling her what you think and how you feel, is with holding information.
It's no wonder Scorpios end up with some deceitful signs and become frustrated with the honest ones. They keep you happy in your bubble, while they frolic behind your backs haha.
Not to mention the other side of the coin, it's deceptive to the one you are with including not having faith that it might just work out and you've already got one in line when it doesn't.click to expand
Hahaha, not everyone is a Scorpio female honey.
We're not all passionate, jealous, obsessive, fixed people who can only have eyes for one.
We are all different and some of us take practicality into account.
It seems the problem persists. People hear what Virgos say and create their own meaning.
I say things and state them as facts. Detached from emotion, intention or any other perceivable adjective. This is something I have to explain numerous times.
The sooner you understand that, the better.

Posted by Scorporella
Cajun - so you explain to her exactly what you are doing, just so she knows exactly where she stands? Just for my benefit, tell me how you go about explaining to her that you are merely keeping her on the hook in case your current relationship doesn't work out?
I make my stance, clear.
I am presently in a relationship
I find you attractive
I think we could work in a relationship
I am not abandoning my present relationship, to be with you
I am not asking you to wait on me
I want you to be happy and support you if you choose to pursue someone else
Straight FACTS.
I do not "keep her on the hook" in case my relationship does not work out.
I view it as a completely separate possibility, standing on its own merits.
I am enjoying all this, keep the questions coming. I do love introspection 🙂

Posted by Let*It*Be
Introspection? Yea, ok. Nice spin. 😉 If you are in a relationship why are you looking to plant any kind of "mental" seed anyway? End the relationship then do your seed planting and baiting. Stay off and away from the single field. Clearly you're not getting your ego stroked enough in the relationship or something is seriously lacking. If men are single and women do this to men, they are called bitches and hos.
Why is it you are so quick to assume, that once in a relationship, a man must end all other ties with women and let his life revolve around you?
Men are going to be attracted to women and vice versa.
The truth is, you never know who is lying and who is sincerely interested.
Everyone has their own process of elimination, this just happens to be a part of mine.

Posted by Let*It*Be
Again, if any woman was stupid enough, naive enough to wait and hope for the possibility then they deserve you, however in the REAL world we all know you wouldn't say this to a woman because of that fact they'd walk, and you'd loose that potential prospect of the seed you planted from the beginning. lol
I have told them this before, some walked, some didn't.
Go figure.
Like I said, I never ask a woman to wait on me.

Posted by Let*It*Be
The defensive attack...ugh You are correct, not everyone is a Scorpio female honey. Luckilly for you because most Scorpio women would see right through your - ahem - mental seed planting/please stand by methods. Sorry I saw through you and called you on the carpet. Passtionate, jealous & obsessive have nothing to do with this. Loyalty does.
So you say, yet I have not come across any that have done so successfully.
The only that "escaped my clutch" is because I sold out myself, by telling her about the Scorpios I dated before.
Called me on the carpet?
I think you would much prefer it on the couch, mmm?
Virgos can be quite loyal, so long as the Scorpio does not force their insecurities on us and make unfounded accusations.

Posted by Let*It*Be
Why are you even bothering with them is what I'm trying to get at? Are you being honest with your girl and telling them you are giving your lists to these other women?
The last Scorpio I dated, circa March 2010, I told her this list in a different way and she flipped out. It was annoying yet expectedly amusing. I could practically read her mind and she did'nt like that one bit.

Posted by Let*It*Be
Well if I may be personal...I prefer my chair and a half, but the couch is better due to the fact that my coffee table makes a good foot hold :-)
Nice, what time to pop over?
But seriously cajun, Scorpio's insecurities come out when a man's thinking similar as you have expressed here for a back up plan comes to the forefront.
It's not done as a backup plan. It's just I was checking other females before I got with you. So why should I cut off them all off?
Why knock a decent scorpio female for being loyal and keeping a relationship clean from this type of crap?
I don't recall, doing so.
Why knock a scorpio OR ANY WOMAN is scorned in a deceptive way?
Is?
Are you exempt from that or something?
*lost*
You didn't ask my question,
Ask?
are you sharing your list with your woman that you are sharing with other women? If you are guess what..that's a founded accusation. Exactly why I and two other females piped in. Did you not catch that?click to expand
It's founded on speculation and misinterpretation.
Ladies ,please save a precious time & energy here🙂engaged discussing the biggest woman's mistake when dealing with a man...in 2 words:
Instant Relationship
Instant Relationship

Posted by Let*It*Be
WOW....now I get the picture. Why the hell would you tell any woman you are in a relationship with this information? I can answer that..."unsurprisingly" - the goods you had were getting boring, the moment you felt the boredom coming on, you started sowing your little seedlings around. You got two sprouts and they were blooming very nicely. While you were off watering your garden your woman got upset, you saw a negative side where she was hurt and not nurturing you or stroking you enough like these new moist sprouts were. So knowing this would upset any woman (not just Scorpio woman), you tell her about your new prospective garden. How dare she get upset even more? You dump her. What a guy.
That's a lot of insinuation, assumption and projection on your part.
You were not there, you don't know what happened. All you have is my word to go on by.
Why the hell would you tell any woman you are in a relationship with this information?click to expand
Because that's the kind of person I am.
She claims she was fine until I told her, and in all honesty, it seemed that way to me.
I get in trouble for being honest, but that doesn't stop me.

Posted by Let*It*Be
"Nice, what time to pop over?"
hey..if I'm ever in for a hook-up with a gardener, I'll grow cucumbers 😉
But... but! I have this inclination you would prefer my cucumber more! 😛

Posted by Let*It*Be
No, it's a window pane, can see right through it. Can't help it.
Think what you will, you fixed signs can't be bargained with.

Posted by Let*It*Be
^^look how matter of fact and egotistical that sounds. One final thought.
That's just me.
The person you drop the seeds on will remember how you met with you dropping those seeds. Should you end up with this flower (until you get bored) you have set the stage for insecurity and her wondering if you are doing this same thing with someone else. The flower wilts, and dies. It's a vicious cycle. My advice to you is stay out of relationships until you are ready to fertilize. 😉click to expand
This is true for Scorpios perhaps, hence why I now avoid taking the on seriously.
Hell I wish I'd never asked lol but interesting all the same!....K Cajun can you give me a totally honest answer please, kinda think you will anyhowz! If you were attracted to someone, both physically and mentally you know she has a partner she plants that seed with you, would you persue?

Posted by P-Angel
You know he isn't available and you don't mind to proceed if he wanted to even at the expense of an innocent woman's heart.
Innocent woman's heart? Man your tune changes daily just to suit your needs doesn't it? How do you know his girlfriend isn't some Gemini nightmare who "deserves a fucked life" and "treats him like he's less than her"?

Posted by seadream
Hell I wish I'd never asked lol but interesting all the same!....K Cajun can you give me a totally honest answer please, kinda think you will anyhowz! If you were attracted to someone, both physically and mentally you know she has a partner she plants that seed with you, would you persue?
pursue
No I would not.
The most I would do is entertain conversation, but always wonder at the back of my head, what she wanted.
I suppose this is you throwing the shoe on the other foot aye?
A Capricorn is doing that to me right now, as a matter of fact.

Good for you Cajun! You're too young to be hooking up with your one & only. It does happen, but much more healthy to get some variety before settling down.
And if a person is enjoying the whole seed-planting experience, so what. Maybe she just likes flirting. Maybe she's with a crummy partner and trying to work herself up to leaving him.
And I know plenty of social groups where people prefer to date within a circle of friends. You know their history, likes, dislikes, etc. It's a head start.
And if a person is enjoying the whole seed-planting experience, so what. Maybe she just likes flirting. Maybe she's with a crummy partner and trying to work herself up to leaving him.
And I know plenty of social groups where people prefer to date within a circle of friends. You know their history, likes, dislikes, etc. It's a head start.

There is no easy answer. He's into you. He will not say more because he is in another relationship. His heart is guarded until the right time. You know how he feels without him actually saying it. Think about it....

How do you know if a virgo man likes you?
Yours is the last voice he wants to hear before he goes to sleep.
Your soft skin is the only one he wants to touch.
His entire body is consumed with thoughts of you, oh no wait, thats if he also has Venus in Scorpio, anyways he's told you all about how his body burns when he's next to you.
But after reading the thread a bit more, i dont know how all that applies if he is in a relationship. sorry.
Yours is the last voice he wants to hear before he goes to sleep.
Your soft skin is the only one he wants to touch.
His entire body is consumed with thoughts of you, oh no wait, thats if he also has Venus in Scorpio, anyways he's told you all about how his body burns when he's next to you.
But after reading the thread a bit more, i dont know how all that applies if he is in a relationship. sorry.
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