Long-Lost Virgo

Hello out there to all the lovely Virgos! 🙂

Okay. I have a bit of a situation that I need some help with working out, and direct advice/insight from Virgos is about the only way I can do that. So your help is greatly appreciated.

Let's say I have this "friend" on whose behalf I will be telling this story.

And my friend is a well-adjusted, normal Scorpio woman who happened to have a brief dalliance with a Virgo male back in '99. It was brief because she was traveling at the time, and only had 3 days and 2 nights to spend with this Virgo, who until that point, was a complete stranger. She was in a city about 5 hours from where she lives. Well...she knows this sounds crazy, but she assures you she's not in fact crazy...but even in such a short amount of time she developed strong feelings for this Virgo, and though it's been almost 4 years, she has thought about him every day ceaselessly and has missed him often over the years. The Virgo called her several times after the "dalliance", but eventually contact fizzled out because of the fact that he (the Virgo) was moving around a lot and she failed to return his last call (like an idiot), because she just chickened out. The bad part of the whole story is that when the "dalliance" happened at the end of their three days together, the night before she was to return home, she had been going out with a different guy back home for about 2 weeks...but at the time threw caution to the wind (she was 17 at the time, cut her *some* slack) and thought, "I'm only young once, I'm not married, we've only been together two weeks, what's a little secret in the grand scheme of things?" But she is still with the original guy to this day. Unfortunately, she has always carried an ever-burning torch for the Virgo.

Over the years she has written him a great many letters, but threw them all away before she could send them, afraid of pushing the Virgo in case he didn't want to be pushed, and wanting to not ruin things between him and herself as they were. But the fact that she thinks about him every day and night, eventually prompted her to do something, as it was causing her an extreme lack of sleep and general unrest and unease. (By the way, over the years she had searched for him on the 'net, and tracked his various addresses as he moved around, but never acted on it, she just did it to ease her mind that he was still alive and well, and all of that good stuff.) Well, she finally just thought, "that's it, I have to contact him somehow, I can't live the rest of my life wondering and pondering and dreaming about him all the time".

So this past Monday, she wrote him a letter. A long letter. But, she was very careful not to sound ridiculous or hung-up or anything that would seem too aggressive or what have you. However, she did make some of her feelings clear, she mentioned that she thought of him quite often, as well as updating him on her life briefly and asking about what he was up to.

She apologized for not returning his call like 2 years ago (lol), and explained why. She made sure not to overwhelm him, but the letter did end up being twelve pages long, front and back (small sheets of paper however). The letter would have gotten there probably today, possibly tomorrow. She is on pins and needles wondering how he will react, without a clue as to whether he is also with someone or living alone, or how he feels about her deep down.

All she can say is that he seemed highly genuine, perhaps the most genuine person she's ever met, and that when she was virtually alone in a big, unfamiliar city, he showed her around and took care of her, and offered to feed her and things of that nature.

She was entranced by him, he had dark skin and dark brown eyes and black hair, very nicely dressed and only 2 or 3 years older than her (so nothing creepy, don't worry!), he wasn't rich in the least, but he was just the coole

I am constantly amazed by the similarities between your stories and mine, although within the gap from 17 years to 21 years, the stakes of these stories must inevitably elevate quite a bit. For now, what else can you do but wait for the reply, and push to become long-distance friends for the time being? There are still many long years of those same ever-elevating stakes to make a bond with him, and if that is made, then to solidify that same bond. If there truly is a deep underlying current of cosmic connection between yourselves, then he will inevitably want to see you again and something will happen. You can do nothing, and you already know this, I know, but wait. Time is on your side, but it feels like your enemy. You've got to turn it around and use it, one way or the other, either for bringing in that great catch or burying a broken heart if a relationship isn't meant to be.

Alright, now on to my story, so you don't think I'm just making up similarities just to act cool like a 21 year old, which I have no need to do because it's a universality that 18 year olds are the smartest and coolest creatures to ever walk God's Green Earth.

Early last spring-- February, to be exact-- I was in the process of being inducted into the International Thespian Society, which requires completing a hundred hours of on-stage time. I was also having a severe case of the blues because I was 17 and had never even been kissed, and I had just tried breaking off relations with a suicidal and bipolar girl I had asked to a dance the past fall. (Darn right we young Capricorns play the field!) The Drama club went to a competition called a Theater Festival, hosted at a highschool in the area. One of the house managers at this school took a liking to me, and among her school's theater enthusiasts I was mixed pretty quickly because I looked like one of their "stars" who had graduated a year before. The festival lasted for 2 days, and my classmates were shocked when it was announced that our cast and crew and the hosting cast and crew were going to the state level festival 3 weeks afterward. We had really bonded, our two schools, because one of our actresses was cousin to one of their two house managers. The state level festival almost ran for a straight 48 hours, and by the end of the first day I was so taken with the house manager I had befriended that I made it my goal to get her phone number by the festival's end. Well, I got her phone number during the dinner space between the last play and the award presentations. Even now, almost a year after I've met her, I've gone through a lot of girls and not one can I say even comes close to affecting me like she did. Mostly, there was something in her eyes, something about them that absolutely burned and lit my insides on fire. I can't tell you how many times I've argued with my parents about seeing her, but she lives nearly two hours away with a lot of highway entering and exiting in between, which makes them uneasy. Even now, while I write this, I'm sitting home alone because they wouldn't let me drive through the snow to school! She gave me my first kiss, and it was the most perfect moment I can think of- it was totally unexpected.

The story doesn't end with that, though. I visited her twice, including once on her seventeenth birthday last April the 22nd. After that, I didn't talk with her for a long time because she was away in the midwest and somewhere in Asia traveling with her school to national and international theater festivals. This was also when I was spending hours of every day talking to a Sagittarian girl- one of my 3 junior prom dates- so, when I finally ended up calling this stage manager again it was confirm that we both still carried the other's torch, as you say, but that we simply lived too far apart to visit one another because she got lost every time she tried even visiting my school. I improved on that time by making my move on the raven-haired Sagittarius. T

omfg......thank you so much Josh for your response and I promise you I will reply more in depth to it later but OMFG!!!!!!!! HE EMAILED ME!!!!!!!!! And he said, "very, very, very happy to hear from you." OMFG!!!!!!!!!!! I am delirious with happiness right now. He wants me to come and see him before he goes on some trip for 2 months....omg, omg, omg. I'm freaking completely out right now. LOL. Okay, so I'm thinking I'll call him tomorrow, oh god I'm so nervous....I'm totally freaking out. Okay, I need to smoke a cigarette. Be back soon.

OMFG!!!! My cheeks hurt from smiling right now. lol.

I would like to thank you both for your kindness and support on this matter (and of course all previous "matters" I've been through)! 🙂 Kennyg/Linda, you've got me forever as well! (I love that phrase, "nothing ventured etc blah blah blah"! I'm totally going to borrow that if you don't mind 😉 Alright, now, Mr. Josh, as for you, I am *also* constantly amazed at the similarities between our stories, thank you so much for sharing yours. I always like to hear stories like that, I mean, not that I like that they end in a bittersweet way, but I like to hear detailed descriptions of relationship experiences people have had because I believe that you can come to know a person pretty darn well by such stories, you can feel the same emotions they felt, and sort of retrace their individual journey that took them on the path that eventually led to their present state of emotion/state of mind, "etc blah blah blah"!!! LOL. Yay, I got to use it 😉 Anyway, just reading your story (while not exactly identical to mine, but similar) made me feel a lot better, I want you to know that. I finally felt like, "okay, so I'm not the *only* person on the planet who has carried a torch for a past lover for soooooo long....so I'm *not* a freak!". I am sorry that the whole thing didn't end up in the ideal way, but, as you said, there are a great many years in front of us (and you silly goat, there is not *that* big of a difference between 17 and 21, there is somewhat of a difference, but not astronomical--I would say you come across as more mature than most 21 year old guys I know, which is not an exaggeration in the least, so my point is, I pretty much consider you a peer based on your level of maturity and intelligence).

Now I would like to specifically address the parts of your post that most deeply affected me.

If there truly is a deep underlying current of cosmic connection between yourselves, then he will inevitably want to see you again and something will happen. You can do nothing, and you already know this, I know, but wait. Time is on your side, but it feels like your enemy. You've got to turn it around and use it, one way or the other, either for bringing in that great catch or burying a broken heart if a relationship isn't meant to be.

*So* well put, and absolutely true. Put my mind at ease, so thank you. 🙂

I say cut connections with your current significant other or at least talk to him about this. If you can't completely love someone with your whole mind and heart, you shouldn't love them at all, because, as I've said and been told too many times to count, it does no one good and only ends up in one or both of you getting hurt.

Again, very well put. But I have to say a couple things...one, a year into my relationship with my s.o., he found out about the tryst with the Virgo, it was absolutely horrible, I felt like the world's most evil person seeing the pain that I caused him, and truly for a second, I regretted what happened with the Virgo. Now, my bf does NOT know the extent to which the affair went (he didn't want to know anything other than that I had been unfaithful and I wasn't about to tell him). He has no idea that we slept together, and I think it's better that way, as awful that sounds on the surface. At the time, I decided that upon seeing the harm I'd done to my bf, that I would try to "get over" the Virgo and "move on". Well, that never seemed to ever happen. No matter how hard I tried, he was like this extremely ingrained memory that I had that wasn't leaving or subsiding or anything. My emotions about him never cooled off, even after so much time. So...my bf and I tried to "work things out", and after a horribly long discussion, a lot of tears, and what have you, he (my bf)made me promise to him that I would never talk to the Virgo again, and so I promised him. I didn't want to cause him any more pain and I wanted to be a good girlfriend. He doe

Alright.

So, after almost having a coronary from the nervousness of calling him, I called him, and oh my God, it was wonderful. His voice was like music to my ears. And here is the great thing: for all my freaking paranoia that he might not feel the same way about me, he made it pretty clear (in that quirky Virgoan way), that he does. We never said the love thing, but, you know how you're just burning up inside wanting to say it, but you keep stopping yourself, and it ends up being a sigh or a laugh instead? That's what kept happening with both of us. At one point I said, "I feel like there's *so much* to say..." and he's like, "I know, it's the *phone* thing. There is a lot to say". It's funny with us, it's like we both have the exact same style of communicating, neither one of us can quite *say it*. But I do feel that we both feel it. (I'm being such a water sign right now with all the feeling words!)

We talked for about 40 minutes, which, when my parents find out that I made a long distance call and see the charges, are going to freak out on me beyond belief. But he's worth it. Plus, I'll pay for it. But, they're still going to freak out. God, we talked about so much. The details would bore you, so I will just give highlights: he's leaving for two months and going to a remote location, like the kind without phones, etc. So, I asked him if he would write to me while he's soul searching, and he said he would. He'll send me the letters when he gets back. He's also going to send me a picture of himself before he leaves, which I am very excited about. A lot of the conversation consisted of him trying to convince me to come up and see him, like *now*, which I can't do because I have to be here in case my two potential bosses call me about these jobs I have lined up. But oh god, I wanted to go so bad. He was so incredibly sweet about it too, he said "I'll give you gas money to go home with, and I'll feed you and give you waaaaay too much alcohol..." lol. But really, he said it in a sweet, funny way. I think he might have been nervous too, it's like we were both talking really fast and trying to exchange as much information about our lives as possible, because we only have so much time. But he's a much more laid-back person than me (which I love), so that calms me a lot. He kept saying that if I could come and see him, that everything would be so much better because it would be like all these good things were happening in his life at once (he's opening his own business, which I am so proud of him for). I wanted to go, I wanted to hop in my car and not give a shyt and drive like a bat out of hell to see him. But I have to be somewhat responsible now, I'm not 17 anymore. 😢 He said something that really suprised me, especially for a Virgo...he said that when I mailed him the letter, that it brought back a tidal wave of emotions for him. I was suprised in a good way. I didn't think he was really the emotional type at all, and I said, "oh, thank god, so I'm not the only one..." and he said, "no, not at all". We finish each others sentences all the time, which is so cool. And he's so smart, I love that. And he looks like a model, no joke. My friends who were with me when we met, kept talking about how hot he was and how they were jealous! lol. God, I feel so lucky to have ever met him. Anyway, other cool things he said...he said that he has pictures of me, which I had totally forgotten he took (he was really into photography at the time), and he said that he has them in a photo album and he shows me off to people, which I thought was so sweet. I lamented to him about the fact that the one picture I could have had of him, was taken on my friend's camera outside the place we met, and that she has the picture and since we don't talk anymore...lol. He goes, "oh, I'm sure you have a picture of me in your mind as good as any photograph" at which point I felt like he really understood the

You know what this makes me want to say? Excellent! That's wicked cool, you know? Well duh, obviously you do know how cool it is because you just bloody wrote two page lengths on it! I'm psyched for you, nice job- it took guts to call him, and to hang on to the thought of him to begin with, even though it probly felt like instict, eh?

Now, because I simply can't help my jealous self, I've got to impart some pain-in-the-anus words of wisdom. This is where you've got to have the least fun, in the very beginning, so you DON'T end up jobless and alienated from everybody who is already established in your life. You're a Scorpio, and supposedly adept at playing the game. You made a point- a 3 point shot if I do say so myself- but how many times do coaches tell their players to "follow through?" Follow through Phoenix, and before you know it, you'll be flying high in something not unlike a storybook fantasy- the kind that would have a Phoenix in it to begin with. =)

Thanks very much both of you for your advice! Very inspiring indeed. I talked to him again today, and it was a different conversation this time, much more serious. I am continually shocked at how often he finishes my sentences and senses exactly what I'm thinking or feeling. And I'm not talking about things like, "I like chocolate ice cream but not..." "Vanilla." lol. I'm saying something completely random and he totally picks up on where I'm going with it. Anyway, it was sort of a suprising conversation for me, and somewhat disappointing, but not too bad. There were a couple times where his responses to things weren't what I'd hoped. Example: "I'm wondering if when you write to me when you're gone, you could maybe tell me where your head is at with everything?" "Definitely not, no way, you're going to have to see me in person to know where my head is at, my communication skills are not good when it comes to anything but body language". Okay. That's alright I guess. I said, "can you give me an idea..." (him)"where things are going?" (me)"yeah". (him)"See, that's where I get all..." (me)"weird?" (him)"Kind of". Okay, that's not so cool...but here's the confusing thing, he contradicts himself sometimes, like he said all this stuff about how maybe I should think about coming up there and how he could probably get me a job in one or two days, and how he has a room for me for 100 bucks a month, and he did push for me to come up there a lot...but it seems like when it comes to discussing an actual relationship, he doesn't know...alright, so, I don't get that, but I suppose I'll have to deal with it. Shoot, gotta go, I'll be back later with more 🙂

in the meantime (he's the Horse, I'm the Rooster)...

The Horse and the Rooster could make a good pair, surprisingly enough -- surprising because the Horse's unpredictable nature wouldn't seem to be a very natural match for the Rooster's exacting perfectionism. The success of this match relies largely on the Horse's flexibility and the Rooster's ability to quell the urge to nag. The Rooster has a very sharp mind and a keen eye that picks up subtleties of detail; these qualities are what lead to the Rooster's insistence on perfection, but are also quite attractive to the Horse. The Horse is a very witty, scintillating companion in part because of its general knowledge of a broad range of subjects; this Sign is quite attracted to the Rooster's specificity of knowledge.

As lovers these two could run into problems, especially if they live together. The Rooster makes a very loyal, trusting partner but can be a rather annoying housemate if it gives in to its love of criticizing others. The Rooster wants things to be impeccably clean and in perfect order, but the Horse will often start a project and then abandon it right in the middle, having thought of something more fun or interesting to do. The Rooster could be very impatient with the Horse's inability to focus or follow things through. The Horse also doesn't have the best track record in terms of relationship longevity. However, these two will have a cerebral connection and can keep one another mentally stimulated.

As business partners these two will have to choose work that will hold the Horse's interest. The Rooster is a natural at managing finances and other practical affairs; this Sign's sharp mind hardly ever miscalculates. The Rooster also possesses a basically conservative nature and is a real bargain-hunter, qualities that will ensure the business isn't hurt by unwise risk-taking. The Horse is a very hard worker when it wants to be and possesses an ingenious resourcefulness that will astonish and please the Rooster.

The Horse and the Rooster share a compatibility of six, on a scale of one to ten.

Thank goodness for open spaces, because the Horse needs plenty of room to roam! Energetic, good with money and very fond of travel, Horses are the nomads of the Chinese Zodiac, roaming from one place or project to the next. All of this Sign's incessant activity and searching may be to satisfy a deep-rooted desire to fit in. Paradoxically, Horses feel a simultaneous yearning for independence and freedom.

Horses crave love and intimacy, which is a double-edged sword since it often leads them to feel trapped. Love connections tend to come easily to Horses, since they exude the kind of raw sex appeal that is a magnet to others. This Sign tends to come on very strong in the beginning of the relationship, having an almost innate sense of romance and seduction. Horses are seducers in general; check out any A-list party and you're bound to find the Horse in attendance. This Sign possesses a sharp wit and a scintillating presence; it really knows how to work a crowd. Surprisingly, Horses tend to feel a bit inferior to their peers, a misconception that causes them to drift from group to group out of an irrational fear of being exposed as a fraud.

An impatient streak can lead Horses to be less than sensitive to others' needs. These colts would rather take a situation firmly in hand as opposed to waiting for others to weigh in or come to terms with it. The lone wolf inside the Horse can at times push others away, but this also makes this Sign stronger and is a key to its success. Horses are self-reliant and, though they might lose interest fast in a tedious, nine-to-five day job, are willing to do the work necessary to get ahead.

Horses tend not to look much at the big picture; instead they just follow their whims, which can result in a trail of prematurely ended relationships, jobs, projects and so on. This Sign really knows how to motivate others, though, and get a lot accomplished. Once they find some peace within themselves, they can curb their wandering tendencies and learn to appreciate what's in their own backyard.

Hi Kennyg, no, you're right, I'm being way too dramatic I think. I don't know, I am just sensing that maybe he doesn't feel as much for me as I feel for him...it could easily be paranoia, because he hasn't outright *said* anything that could logically make me think that. But he's so quiet and I have very little idea of what is going on inside his head, besides what he plainly stated about coming up there etc etc blah blah blah 😉...I get this very overwhelming feeling that he is deep in thought when we are on the phone, thinking about everything I'm saying. lol. Every little thing, so then I start really watching what I'm saying because the *last* thing I want to do is scare him off, but at the same time, I'm freaking out because I can't read his mind and I just want to know the *degree* to which he feels about me. I almost told him I loved him today, but quickly decided against it because the timing didn't seem right, and I hate saying that for the first time on the phone. I'm almost scared to see him because, it's either going to end up being such a good thing that I won't want to leave, or he'll somehow break my heart and I'll never recover. It's so lame, because I'm sure once I got up there, all the feelings that I *think* he had the first time we were together, would probably come back. I can't see how such a strong attraction both emotionally and physically could just die. But still, the whole thing makes me very nervous. I think it's because *anything* could happen and I have no idea what *will* happen. Because he is being highly ambiguous about his feelings. All he's been forthcoming about so far is that he wants to see me, and that we could work out an arrangement that would involve him getting me a job and giving (more like renting) me a place to stay. Which really, I guess I should be happy about!! lol. I don't want to sound ungrateful at all, because I am SO grateful, and I told him that. But in my mind, what I need is an emotional declaration of...not necessarily love, but something. You know what? I have learned so much in the past year or so, and I credit so much of that to being on this website and thus having all these wise people such as yourself giving me advice (and spankings when necessary, lol)...that just now hit me, how much being on this website and expressing all the things I can't in "real life" has helped. It's amazing!

Okay, so...tomorrow I am buying a calling card so that I can call him without fear that my 'rents will unleash their unholy wrath upon me. Man, am I gonna be in trouble when they see that bill. lol. Anyway, he leaves on tuesday so I have one last day...god, sometimes I just want to tell him how much I love him, but I can't bring myself to do that unless I positively know that he feels the same. Hey, maybe I'm really lucky and he's thinking the exact same thing I am. lol. But somehow I doubt it. He's a more confusing boy than I remember him being back then...but at the same time, everything is different when you're physically in the presence of that person. You know what I think is cute? When we're on the phone, he's always trying to make me laugh, which is so funny and makes me laugh more. lol. He has a very, very, very sarcastic sense of humor though, so sometimes I'm not sure if he's being serious or not...lol, and I truly believe that he purposely tries to test my intelligence! But not in a mean, critical way really. He'll just say something that sounds like it *could* be true, but you can just barely tell by the *way* he says it that he's pulling your chain. lol. For example, "The Pony Express still delivers mail to the forest." LOL, for a second I was like, "they do??" and then we both started cracking up. Oh, I could just talk about him forever obviously. lol. I'm surely boring you now though, so I will wrap it up, but believe me, I'll be on this board a lot. 🙂

Again, many many thanks!

He's not leaving til wednesday. Well. Today wasn't so good, and tonight royally sucked. I had a perfect opportunity to go up there; his friend was going to drive down and they were going to pick me up. I just couldn't do it. I know for one that my parents would absolutely freak out and possibly cut off my car insurance, car payments, and cell phone bill if I took off like that. Yes, I am 21, no, they are not the rulers of my life, but yes they do control me through finances at this point because of my jobless state. I just couldn't risk it even though I wanted to really bad. And it *very* much disappointed him, and he made it *very* clear. He is so wonderful, he offered to wire me $ $ and so on and so forth...but I still couldn't do it. We talked for so long about everything, and he did say a few times that he "won't wait" until two months from now when he comes back, and that he didn't know where he was going after the trip, and that he's making MAJOR life decisions while he's gone and he needs to have some sort of part of me to remember me while he's deciding all these major things, etcetera. I'm so depressed right now. He could not understand the way my parents are, and I kept trying to explain to him but he was quite opinionated on the subject and kept saying things like, "that is crazy that you can't even leave by yourself without them knowing about it" etcetera. Things like that. We actually talked twice today (he went out and bought a phone card so we could talk longer). He was about the most persistent person I've ever seen in my life as far as wanting me to come up there, and believe me, I was two seconds away from doing it. I just couldn't. And I was upset that he kept acting all cold and mysterious about whether he would be there for me to even talk to when he gets back. And here is a really upsetting thing...I said, "For three years I have held on to these memories, and all I'm asking is for you to do the same for the two months that you're gone". And he said, "No. That's not the way I live my life."

*picks up shattered heart from floor*

But here is the strange thing. Mixed in with all this hard-ass, I'm not waiting for you stuff, he said a lot of incredibly sweet and suprising things, too. For example, I was talking to him about the memories I have of our short time together, and I said, "do you remember when we were sitting in your car, and you were really stoned, and you looked at me and you said, 'finish school, come back here in a year and I'll marry you'?" And I was giggling, I said "I know you didn't mean it because you were stoned, but I still thought it was sweet" and he said, "I remember. I remember what I said". *pause* "Get your butt up here and we'll see." lol. I said, "I'm not pushing for that at all, I was just sharing the memory..." and he said something like "yeah yeah yeah, just get up here" or something. lol. Then, I said, "do you remember asking me what my favorite kind of alcohol is, and I said, 'old english 40's'? And you started laughing at me and you asked me, 'who taught you how to drink—'" (LOL) And he laughed and said, "yeah I do remember that, in fact in one of the pictures I have of you, you're sitting on my couch, holding an Old English 40 oz., and it's bigger than your head!" LOL. So we both laughed, that was good times.

He also said a bunch of romantic stuff about what we could do once I got there, and he said he needs to look into my eyes and so on and so forth. lol. You get the idea. So that was very tempting. He said that even if the "butter went down" with my parents, that he would not let me be homeless or starve or anything like that. He said, point blank, that he would take care of me. Which is what I thought to begin with. But it was very assuring to hear him say it. But I still couldn't go. I just couldn't. And it sucks because we get along so well, we laugh so much, we are mentally on the same page al

I can spell COUPLES!

I forgot to add that at one point I said to him, "I don't think you understand the depth of my feelings about you..." and he said, "I'm *starting* to see it..." lol...just when I thought I was being too obvious.

Wish I had a magic pill that could make these two months be over with so I could know if he intends to ever talk to me again when he gets back. If he throws it all away, I'll never recover. I told him that in so many words. I said, "If you come back and you say to me, 'because you didn't come up and see me before I left, we can't do this', I will never recover from that." And he was silent for a while and then continued with his ideas for ways I could go up there.

Oh here's some more funny stuff: this is how muddled my brain has been since I started talking to the Virgo...I have, according to my dad, left the doors unlocked to my house for the past few days, whereas before I was the most anal retentive, lock-the-door-behind-you-no-matter-what person EVER. I almost gave the Virgo the wrong phone number to my cell phone, I gave him his area code instead of mine and then couldn't remember my cell number for the life of me...I forgot, just completely forgot to do the dishes for the last 2 days. lol. Thank god we haven't used very many dishes in the last 2 days. I have been tripping and dropping things and spilling coffee and (here's a good one) I forgot to heat up the water in the microwave when I was making instant coffee recently, and then took my water out of the microwave and DRANK IT, promptly realizing it was cold water. lol. Wow. Then, I took a shower and realized I'd forgotten to wash any towels so I had to use a hand towel to dry my whole body as well as my hair. I forget what people are saying when I'm talking to them, because my mind wanders to HIM. Hmmmm....I'm so screwy right now.

Hi Phoenix!

I've been a reader of Duncan's for quite some time but I had to register just so I could tell you how much I enjoyed reading this whole thread on your life. It was very entertaining I must say! Have you ever thought about being a writer for a living? Your very good at it! Good luck to you on your newly rekindled relationship with the Virgo. Keep us posted!

P.S. Please dont take this negatively because I only wish for your happiness but as a Virgo myself, please just be careful. Keep a look out for his selfish nature. He may just be playing you in order to get what he wants- good or bad.

txchic, thank you very much for your support! I will most certainly be keeping you posted. Thank you also for the complement on my writing, that's very nice of you to say! I've thought about doing it professionally, but, I write mostly as a hobby now because I need that immediate gratification thing that only comes with having a job in the meantime until I can work out a schedule that would enable me to put together a book of some kind.

About your cautionary advice, I don't take that negatively at all, it's very helpful. And smart. I definitely have that in the back of my mind, and I will definitely be watching closely to see whether things developing suddenly stop as a result of my physical absence from him. Most certainly. I will say that in my heart of hearts, I don't think he's playing me, BUT, I am not going to be anyone's fool, and I will continue to closely observe how things go as time away from each other increases. Because I figure that if he's totally done with me when he comes back, then maybe his feelings weren't strong enough to begin with, and though a very painful realization that might be, it is one that ultimately I have to learn, even though it would suck.

Thanks for being sweet and helpful! 🙂

*compliment

(I have Mars in Virgo, just had to be nitpicky and correct that. lol)

dxpnet, since you're on, you have any thoughts on the whole matter? You're an earth horse, like my virgo, so.....yeah okay that's stretching it a bit, but you are a male with a Virgo moon, correct?

proceed with caution, but follow your heart. i think him being incognito for a couple months is a good thing. time will help this latest round of excitement die down and then you'll be able to decide from there.

Excellent, thank you for your thoughts 🙂

Yeah, I have to be careful because I think my brain doesn't serve me well when I'm all twitterpated like this...anyway thank you thank you 🙂

damn, twitterpated, the last person i heard say that was a scorpio. and i caused it....very cool.

i love weird things like that 🙂

*sigh*

I haven't heard from him in almost 48 hrs...what the hell is going on...maybe he's really pissed at me or something. I'm gonna die if he leaves before I can say goodbye.

correction, i haven't heard from him in slightly over 24 hours.

Phoenix,
Although you and i have had our differences, i dont want to see you get hurt. It's strange, i got a feeling to click on the virgo page and here is your post...! It sounds great, kudos to you for facing your fears, extending yourself and getting in touch with him, it takes great courage. No one knows how this thing is going to turn out but i think dxpnet is right, time will tell.

g-virgo, would you happen to have any thoughts on the whole thing? Just wondering if I could get some more perspectives on it from virgos.

This is really weird, I still haven't heard from him and I'm pretty sure he's already left by now. Gosh, I really hope I didn't piss him off too much...I left 3 messages on his machine over the course of 2 days, I also emailed his roomate and asked him to pass along the message that I still would be writing him while he's gone, that there were in fact reasons why I couldn't get up there, and that I will miss him and have a safe and good trip. The roomate emailed me back saying, "no problem, i'll tell him, I hope everything works out with you two". So....I don't know what's up, but I'm upset.

Thank you Libragirl...by the way I really didn't mean to offend you before, I'm sorry if I did. Thanks very much for your support! 🙂

Phoenix,
I had to register because your story is so very appealing and wanted to offer my two cents. I have been studying for a good year and a half about virgo's in general, all about their personalitiy dispositons, characteristics, approach etc.. what not. As an aries I've been inspired to understand my own affinity towards this enigmatic virgo 'aura'. Oddly enough four of my close knit girlfriends are all virgo's not to mention my father, and my brother. I unconciously seem to seek this personality out in my workplace, friendships etc.. My opinion on virgo's is that emotionally will only give so much. They will only tell you enough to keep you interested. They are not this Overwhelming romantic libra/pisces type. They smoulder passionately inside. These sensual love vibes is what they "emit" yet won't be in a rush to say. I believe I have discovered why. They are perfectionists, they thrive in order, organization, balance and that too ripples even in their love arena. They will only reveal certain levels of their affection due to the fact that they simply cannot afford to lose CONTROL. They in some ways may view it as losing some of their personal power. They uphold this level of power or self-control to keep them from feeling vulnerable and uneasy. I believe yes, that Mr. Virgo is quite capable of feeling the same things as you but, instead my not divulge as easily nor expected so just keep feeling his vibes. His love is the way he looks into your eyes, he embraces you and the way he kisses you. That is certainly how you may truly gage his affection.........By the way ...just listening to your post you said the two of you hadn't talked in several years right? Well then you should not dance here! That may be a genuine plea on his part but it seems more of a control issue. What is two months? He should be grateful just for the sake of your effort in reaching out to him. If I were you.......during these two months......be cool....don't let anyone compromise you so much that you'll start eating fast food to ease your blues! No way! If I were you I would continue your life NOW..keep up with your job search. And to keep you distracted start exercising every other day. And don't do it for him do it for you. The best medicine for your happiness to keep the woe away is to stay busy, work out...metamorphosize into this ultimate sex goddess...and when he returns..... you may then reasses how YOU feel. And to tell you truthfully, It might be safer to get to know someone better than legitimately considering living with someone. And not to mention you need to be self-sufficient if you even decided to partake. God that was a mouthful......I wish you the best. Virgo's rock! FYI: Phoenix you might honestly consider writing as a livelihood I am compelled to share with you as that have a gift. Break a leg! 🙂 Heather

Yikes! when I get excited I write really fast hence, all my grammatical mistakes! :O The end statement should read ....simply that you have a gift as a writer. Hopefully the point was understood. Cheery-O

My lovely ram--my goodness gracious, that was one heck of a posting!! I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it. I do think you are dead on about Virgos and their quirks and their (sometimes strange to the more passionate signs) ways of showing affection and/or love. To know that much, you must be one superbly observant person, which is beyond cool! I LOVE< LOVE your advice about what to do in the next two months--LOVE IT!! I got the job I wanted, so that's at least one good thing to happen to me lately, and so that will take my mind off him a little bit, plus, I have a gym membership that I have been slacking on using for the last six months or so, so I would love to get back into the groove with that. As far as what else to do, I haven't been able to figure that out yet. lol. But I've got at least those two distractions. And, lovely ram, you should know that you have a talent for writing too! You are very articulate, and your vocabulary is outstanding!! Anyway, thank you so much for your insight, advice and help! I'll keep y'all posted. Unfortunately I still didn't hear back from him today at all. And today is the day he was officially supposed to be gone. So...*sigh*, oh well, I must carry on, but I'll still write to him. We'll see what happens when he returns to civilization!

Good luck with all those Virgos in your life too!! 🙂

Young Dr. Josh Frankenstein here, distant but shockingly similar cousin to the famed (and very fictitious) Dr. Victor Frankenstein of young Mary Shelly's literary fame, has come out of the dark recesses of his own brain for a gulp of air- and lo and behold, what appears? What else could appear but perspective! This thread has been great reading, and I too would like to leave here wishes of the best of luck and positive changes in your circumstances. Change is the meaning of life! I hope it leaves a fair harvest for you. =)

Well, I haven't cried yet...lol...

Josh, just wanted to say thank you for all your help, you're dear to me and I now feel quite a loyalty to you around here because of how kind, insightful and supportive you've been. Thank you for the encouragement.

My goodness...a lot has happened in the last couple days having to do with the Virgo even though he's gone! I know that makes zero sense right now, but perhaps tomorrow I will come back and clarify and let y'all in on what's transpired. Major changes! The only reason I can't do that now is because I need to go to bed...trying to train myself to wake up super early (for me) now, like 8:00, because I'll be having to get up super early for my new job starting next week. Icky, I hate getting up early, but...gotta do it! 😢 I normally go to sleep at about 3:30 a.m. and get up at like 11-ish, don't ask why, just a habit I got into. lol. But actually, I should be practicing getting up at 6 ish, because that's when I'll *actually* have to get up for my job, but, baby steps. lol. For right now.

Til next time (hopefully sooner rather than later),
phoenix

Hey Phoenix,

I wish I had seen this posting much earlier. I would have told you to send that letter with no delay. Speaking as a virgo we love it when someone else can get the ball rolling when It comes to discussing emotions and feelings. We are very feeling and emotional people even though we dont always show it. we reveal it to those we truly care about trust me. I think that Virgo men are some of the best men out their. They definately have those qualities that you stated you like. They and all virgos for that matter I think are pretty well rounded people intelligent, worldly, open to new things, lovers of art/music etc. Willing to try new things very feeling, deep and caring people. When a virgo looks at you with intensity in their eyes you can be certain that they mean it. Actually most earth signs are like that. I feel that way about capricorn men too. They have a lot of similarities to Virgo men. My best friend who is a virgo, he and I were very interested in each other at one point and man I am telling you I have never felt so connected to someone, other than my Cap man of course. But we too used to finish off each others sentences, he was very giving and caring. Good luck with that. I hope that you two are still involved in each others lives because I know that Scorpios and Virgos are also a really lovely match