Lying virgos

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Well, I don't lie, but that's because I value the truth too much. I absolutely despise liars. I am flat-out honest with people. I do think in many situations, it takes alot more courage to be honest than to just tell a little fib, and I think that's why some people lie.

And just because the truth is going to hurt a little (at times), doesn't mean you can't say it with a bit of tact and have a sense of softness or caring whilst you're saying it.
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Well everyone lies. Even if its for the small things in life. Half truths are counted in this as well, as its a form of deception, isn't it? As for Virgos go, I can say that yes, I've lied before, and I do agree with oddball73, and despise liars as it contradicts me. However, it was nothing big. One its for the bigger plan of things, and it benefited someone else future, or to get something that I wanted to experience.

I also believe that lying is part of interacting with other humans. Some lie bigger than others, some call it mind games, some use it as protection, some just use it to be a little naughty. lol!
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I have virgo friends that have told white lies before- nothing dramatic, and I've also dated virguys that have lied to me. They weren't huge lies, but more so hiding information from me and telling me something else instead of the truth....pretty much deceiving me. And to me that's a form of disrespect. Honesty is very important to me, and I'm just curious as to why they'd do that.

Epictetus- even if it was for the greater good, or if it benefits someone, wouldn't you still want to be HONEST with the person? Ya, it might "protect" that person, but it doesn't help that you hide things either.
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Mature Virgos tend to be truthful.

But I recall an interview with the author Stephen King (a 21 SEP Virgo) in which he described a period in his youth where he would tell lies - often to make a story or event better than it was in reality. I, too, went through a phase in my early teens where I would do something similar - try to "improve" on something through white lies...

As an adult Virgo, I am brutally honest with myself and others. But I am also a Southern Gentleman, and I will soften the blow on occasion when the feelings of someone I care about are on the line...

My Virgo Dad is the same way. But more often than not, he'll try not to make a comment if it's going to be hurtful, rather than tell a white lie.
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Leila10- OF course I still would want to honest to my friends or even girlfriends after the good was archived. I would never want to disrespect someone of deceive them in which you have mentioned, and to me honesty is very important. I've been lied to by my best friends, who eventually told me the truth and I had forgiven them. I know there is other ways to do it, but sometimes the truth hurts more. I think its a matter of knowing the other person your lying too as well. I mean if I believed that someone couldn't handle the truth or would feel if not equally bad about knowing all about certain things then of course I'd throw some misdirection or lie. Only because I know that the truth will come out sooner or later, and sometimes you need a little time.
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My Virgo husband will lie. He doesn't like it, but, he will, if someone's feelings are at stake.

He used to lie to my late mother all the time. She lived with us the final years of her life, and as she diminished, so did her senses. She could no longer put her make-up on, though did .. she could no longer have color coordination, though dressed herself ... she could no longer fix her hair, yet did everyday ... her cooking skills dwindled as well .....

... in all instances, my Virgo husband lied to her and told her her hair was beautiful today, and ate everything on his plate.


Lies, all of them, if viewed from a perspective of brutal honesty being above and beyond to measure integrity ... rigid Virgo. Fortunately, my Virgo isn't like the norm, and he is able to view life from angles other than self-righteousness in being adamant about the meaning of truth.

Because .. he still thought my mother to be a beautfil person, regardless of her clothes, makeup or hair ... and the fact that she would get up and cook him a meal, eventhough she was in terrible pain, was worthy of his smile of sincerity, and for him to say .. "It was delicious mom, thank you" .. wasn't a lie from his perspective, for it was a delicious meal, according to her capabilities of preparing it, since she was demented.



Perspective ...... if you live in a world of just black and white ... then you'll miss the beauty of gray areas where your people's feelings reside.
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I'm Mr. Honesty.

My most recent best friend was a pathological liar though, August 24.
I don't know why he lies so much but it helps him get what he wants.

The nature of a Virgo is to manipulate, stabilise and take control.
With respect to this I don't lie per say, I just don't say everything.
What I tell would be the truth, but if I know saying everything would bring about instability, I would avoid stating it unless prodded.
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"The nature of a Virgo is to manipulate, stabilise and take control."

I know two virguys both fit the above description perfectly. I think the difference is how they go about doing the above. My ex virguy was secretive which made the above malicious and hurtful, the other virguy does all of the above but openly admits to it it's how he is and he doesnt mind people knowing. Although i whole heartedly do not think the above are great characteristics I do respect virguy 2 for at least knowing who he is and being honest enough to put his hands up when caught out.

P-Angel your hubby sounds like a saint you are very lucky 🙂
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Leila10,

Some people lie to hurt others and/or advance their own agenda. Virgos tend not to do that. I've seen Virgs lie to avoid things - like arguments - and occasionally to hide one of their own mistakes. In fact, I've really had to reassure the young VirGuy who works for me that I'm not going to hold screw-ups against him. It's taken a couple of years, but now he gives it to me straight, even when he caused the problem...
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a virgo will lie to protect, himself and those he cares for ... this is where the trouble with parteners comes because sometimes a virgo will think that he knows best and end up concealing info until it blows in their face and then they have to resort to intricate manipulation of facts in their favour or state that they did it because they cared, which is still true but a gamble nonetheless.
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"The nature of a Virgo is to manipulate, stabilise and take control."

Why?


If you notice this, it is because they are mutable signs - I have noticed this - they can't directly attempt to take control, they don't want that kind of spotlight, they want you to think it's all you, then all of a sudden you have a problem they try to fix, then BAM - you're doing it the Virgo way...