The Personas of Virgo Emotion

The birth horoscope is a "script of life" which gives me an exact overview of my "drama". If we translate the horoscope drawing into a view of a stage, the circle of the horoscope becomes the circle of the stage, and the planets turn into people or actors.

Every single person in the drama has his or her very own history, has individual energies, individual needs, has weaknesses and strengths, and individual physical and psychological responses. Each person has an individual way of going through life, as well as an individual path to consciousness.


http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_pers_p_e.htm<BR>
Every placement within a chart has its own personality apart from the role it plays in the natal chart. A "nine persona" chart helps add an extra layer to our natal by showing us, essentially, charts within our charts. These are like our true faces beneath the surface and all those layers of self-defense and protection that we build.

After some of the recent conversation about Virgo emotion (or the theoretical lack thereof, haha), I thought it would be fun for us to show what really lies beneath using the Moon and Venus (our love and emotions) and Mercury (our thoughts). You can find a nine persona chart at astro.com by going to the extended chart selection page, inputting your information, and selecting the chart type under "circular charts".

Lay out your cards if you dare. 😉

Dude, why? Why did you post this? It's like you're giving in to the bullshit started by those jackasses at that other place.........

Mercury: Libra 14.28, House VII/VIII



Asc - Leo
Sun - Libra
Moon - Aries



Venus: Libra 0.17, House VII



Asc - Capricorn
Sun - Libra (cusp Virgo)
Moon - Libra



Moon: Cancer 15.31, House V



Asc - Cancer
Sun - Cancer
Moon - Aries

Posted by 2N3R
Dude, why? Why did you post this? It's like you're giving in to the bullshit started by those jackasses at that other place.........

I like a challenge.

*shrug*

Nothing says anyone else has to do it.

It's just that I feel you're going to give the impression that you have something to prove by making this thread. It's like the reaction to a bully; the bully doesn't care how you react as long as you do.

Posted by 2N3R
It's just that I feel you're going to give the impression that you have something to prove by making this thread. It's like the reaction to a bully; the bully doesn't care how you react as long as you do.

I appreciate your concern. Really, I do. I understand your point, and I wouldn't be too surprised if someone attempts to use this against me in the future. But if I was really worried about internet bullies, it would be very illogical for me to... basically run naked giving directions on the best way to stab me.

I completely understand if no one else wants to participate because of those concerns. They are legitimate. But I'm having fun learning about astrology and showing people something that I think is nifty and I'm too stubborn to let a handful of keyboard commandos take that away.

Posted by CluelessCancer

TMV i can't do my chart, this stuff is too hard, i even attempted to follow your instructions.

Where are you stuck?

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti

Thats right, I'm the ultimate Virgo.

Yes, yes, you are lol.






I'm wondering if I should re-word things though...

Posted by CluelessCancer

Posted by 2N3R
It's just that I feel you're going to give the impression that you have something to prove by making this thread. It's like the reaction to a bully; the bully doesn't care how you react as long as you do.

You're over-thinking, generally people don't care, yet you are here attempting to stifle someone from doing what they want to do.

this isn't a WAR dude...just conversation.

TMV i can't do my chart, this stuff is too hard, i even attempted to follow your instructions.

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The conversation was not and is not with you. The one my words were actually meant for understood the point I was making. If you had actually read, it's plain to see that nowhere in my posts did I "stifle" her. If that's how you feel, that's your problem.

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti

Posted by TMV

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti

Thats right, I'm the ultimate Virgo.

Yes, yes, you are lol.






I'm wondering if I should re-word things though...

lol sometimes I don't know how I keep it going.

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You'll have to let us know how that first Saturn return works out for you. I'm not looking forward to it myself.

About Saturn in astrology:

http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturn.html<BR>


About the Saturn return:

http://astrology.about.com/od/advancedastrology/p/SaturnReturn.htm

Saturn returns are a bitch...well mine was lol

Posted by LostinmyMind11
Saturn returns are a bitch...well mine was lol

Possibly still is...im not quite sure how long they last before and after

You've still got some time, unlimited. Your Saturn is in Sagittarius and I don't think it re-enters that sign for another year or so. I'd have to check to an ephemeris to be sure.

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24
Moon

Damn. Look at all those T-squares. O_o


It looks like your emotions are nicely grounded between earth and air influences, but I bet you're a real handful when you pop your cork and decide to get pissed. The T-square between Merc, Moon, and Uranus is interesting. It looks like there's conflict between the head and the heart, like you want to explain in a nice, airy rational way how you feel but it gets turned around. The frustration of that turns into rebellion and wanting to pull away, even getting snippy about it. Look at the Moon's spot in the 6th house, do you get headaches or an upset stomach when your frustrated?

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti

Posted by TMV
You've still got some time, unlimited. Your Saturn is in Sagittarius and I don't think it re-enters that sign for another year or so. I'd have to check to an ephemeris to be sure.

To be honest I don't know shit about astrology lol, I'm on here just trying to wing it. I don't know nothing about planets, houses, moons, comets nothing.

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Don't worry about it too much. If you hang around long enough you'll pick up a lot just by talking to the ones that do. Six months ago I barely knew I was a Virgo lol. I couldn't have named all 12 signs if my life depended on it, let alone had a clue about placements or houses or anything.

Now that's a Venus I can appreciate. Nice and airy, very chill with a hedonistic flavor. Could be a little lazy but I bet there's plenty of freak and stamina to go around once the engine is warmed up.

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti
TMV when did you turn 26?

I haven't yet. My birthday isn't until the 16th. DXP is trying to make me older than I really am.

*cries*

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti
lo it made me older too, Like 2 weeks older lol I was 26 in the beginning of august so I posted happy birthday to me in the leo thread lol

LOL Nice.

That's cool how you've got like a clan of Virgos going there. Are you all on the same level with each other most of the time?

I think the only other Virgo I really know outside of DXP is a girl I went to school with that shares the same birthday. We were born about six hours apart but our charts are just as different as our personalities. It really amazed me when I first started learning about astrology.

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

That is actually very on point. It's like I'll be thinking of one way to explain something, but it comes out totally different then wtf I had planned because the person I'm explaining it to took it another way. That actually effected my last relationship with a virgo for the simple fact that she kept misunderstanding what I was spittin. Then the fustration comes in because I'm thinking I explained the way my brain generated it, so if you don't get it there is obviously something wrong with you. However, that fustration only comes after numerous times of attemping to explain it. I dont't get a stomach ache, but a headache will show when frustrated. A pet peeve I have about women is when they twist my words. That shit drives me up a wall. Sometimes it's also the "how" I explain shit because I have a tendacy to be animated in my speech.

Also, yes, I am a devil when that cork pops, lol. Once I snap, there is no more pothead. Tunnel vision is a better word for it.

I feel ya. That Sun/Mars/Merc triple conjunction there probably doesn't help when the communication is riled up to act. I was just wondering about the stomach thing because the Moon is semi-close to where your 6th house bleeds into Cancer.

Posted by unlimitedinfiniti

Yeah we are all actually pretty close, my family being 2 and the others I served with in the military.

That's cool. 🙂

And I salute you, good sir, for your service to your country.

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

Well, my stomach does make a sound, but it doesn't hurt. It just makes one of those hungry noises. That could be from stress because I don't like eating when I'm upset.

I can understand that. It's a good thing you're as chill as you are because with that much energy pent up around your Moon you could get like acid reflux or an ulcer or something stressing too much.

A present for you, PHV. 🙂

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

LOLOLOLOLOL! WoWWWWW. That is so neat! Looks like my relaxation time. I'm going to post this in there if you don't mind, ahahahah.

Thanks TMV. 😄

Go for it. She's all yours. 😄

Posted by CluelessCancer

lol you are so cool! i love how you take an idea and run with it. so creative.

this is for your artistic soul TMV, it's not an original, but i had fun doing it.

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To be fair, it was inspired by lildol's thread. But thank you very much. 🙂

Posted by CluelessCancer

Did you draw that yourself, CC?

Posted by TMV

To be fair, it was inspired by lildol's thread. But thank you very much. 🙂

*LilliLou*

My bad.

Posted by CluelessCancer
ummmmmm i'll plead the 5th.

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LOL

It's cool, and very nice.

You ever figure out how to get your persona chart, CC? I asked where you were stuck earlier but I guess you didn't see it.

Gotcha.

I think I'm starting to understand a few things about my own chart now... My Mercury may be in diplomatic Libra, but having fixed Leo on the ascendant gives it a stubborn streak and, possibly, a proud or authoritative kind of tenor. Having the "Sun" and Mars in the 3rd house offers strength in communication but it's somewhat combative in nature. Figure in my Taurus on the 3rd in my natal and the Merc/Mars contraparallel, it's no wonder I'm argumentative and can't let go of an idea once I'm convinced I think I know something. Merc conjunct Pluto lends significant concentrative focus to the point of obsession, also natural skepticism and a tendency to be secretive. Aries Moon cusping on Taurus explains my problem with blurting butter out sometimes. Venus opposite Moon, I try really hard to like people and be nice, even when I shouldn't. Some natural artistic ability... and a very deeply set preoccupation with sex. *shrug* Moon conjunct Jupiter, trying to bring rationality to emotion, stodgy sense of ethics, opinionated, but supposedly intuitive and easily forgives after a fight. Moon trine Neptune, also supposed to be perceptive, imaginative, and holds an affinity for music. And the Moon trine Uranus definitely opposes fake bullbutter and can be honest to the point of brutality.

Libra/Virgo Venus with a Capricorn ascendant and a Libran Moon says I like to chill and keep it real. Shouldn't be too hard to please. Bring me good food and a decent back rub every once in a while, I'll love you forever. Sun and Mars in the 8th house... yup, still a perv. Venus conjunct Moon, supposedly creates a charming and accessible air and is also considered to be *cough* attractive to women *cough*. Merc opposite Jupiter, demonstrative but flaky. Mercury sextile Uranus, intuitive and always open to new ideas, and naturally being a little outside the box. Uranus/Neptune trine Jupiter gives love and emotions a spiritual sense and a hint of destiny. Love is almost a religious experience.

Haha, it really isn't that hard when you're reading your own chart. Who knows you better than you?

All we have to do anyway is just start with the details and keep zooming out until we can put the whole picture together. The internet has made finding descriptions for most of this stuff fairly easy.

I don't need this stuff to know that my Moon is a raging cookiemonster straight from the fiery depths of Hades and doesn't like to hear the word "no" very much. Cancer "Sun" conjunct Cancer ascendant projects a strong personal image of confidence and strength, sometimes to the annoyance of others. Takes criticism as a personal challenge. Sun/ascendant trine Pluto generates a sense of fearlessness and very passionate intensity, endlessly energetic, maybe a little dark and demanding. Sun opposite Neptune, the struggle with a desire to be extraordinary. Natives are commonly found to have had absentee father figures early in life and may develop glorified images of him. Lack of familiar support or defined direction in life. I hate it when astrology gets that accurate. :/

Aries Moon cusping on Taurus again, emotions are impulsive and immediate with a tendency to stick. Moon sextile Merc, easy conversationalist, inquisitive, drawn to poetry and the written with a talent for writing and/or speaking. Wants to rationalize emotion for expression. Moon trine Uranus, strong intuition and open mind, naturally outside of the box. Moon trine Saturn, well-disciplined mind for reliability, trustworthiness, and loyalty.

Merc square Mars, hair trigger reactions and high sensitivity. Fast on the draw with perceptions and energy, often witty and sarcastic, but prone to combative behavior. Mars square Uranus, restless, rebellious, impulsive, demanding, uncooperative, brutally frank, and explosively temperamental. Mars square Saturn, the endless perfectionist that nitpicks the self to death but unwavering perserverence. Merc opposite Uranus, quick mind, great intuition, challenging and rebellious, needs constant stimulation though mental energy fluctuates, scatterbrained. Merc opposite Saturn, frustration due to pent up emotional retardation. Basically, this Merc, Mars, Uranus/Saturn T-square is what causes me to kaboom and go Vulcan smash when pushed too far.

Very interesting.

Yes, the wheel shows degrees. If you have, say, Libra Merc at 17 degrees then any other astro body within 8 or 9 degrees of that will be considered a conjunction. This page here has a list of the different aspects and basic descriptions about how they work.

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm<BR>
And since we know that each sign on a wheel shares an equal 30 degrees, the counting doesn't have to be too painful. I'm a little embarrassed about how long it took me figure that one out lol. The "orbs" listed at the bottom are the degrees of separation so a trine, for example, can be 120 + or - about 9 degrees.

Moon: Leo August 20

Asc - Taurus
Moon - Scorpio

Mercury: Libra October 13

Asc - Aries
Moon - Pisces

Venus: Libra September 28

Asc - Pisces
Moon - Sagittarius

Mars: Virgo September 11

Asc - Leo
Moon - Virgo

Whew... I didn't have a hard time figuring these out. It's just the prints are too tiny!

CC: Just look for the nine persona charts!

My 9 personas...