The Wings on Virgo Love

I sang this to my Scorpio around our first anniversary at our favorite karaoke bar...

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time
Maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you
Maybe I'm amazed at the way you pull me out of time
hung me on the line
Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you

Maybe I'm a man,
Maybe I'm a lonely man who's in the middle of something
that he doesn't really understand

Maybe I'm a man
Maybe you're the only woman who can ever help me
baby, won't you help me to understand

Yeah, it's a Paul McCartney & Wings classic, and I can't take credit for it. But... it encapsulates Virgo Love: An emotional state that we really can't understand. And, what we can't understand scares us, hence: Maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you. This is one of the things that draws me to my Scorp - she is not afraid. She is courageous where I falter...

Virgo Man can love - and truly. Virgo Man wants to love. But... he's afraid of what that might entail...

The indecisiveness of Virgo Man during courtship is a reflection of a terrible inner struggle. To admit to feelings of love means admitting to Feelings. To accept the reality of feelings is to accept our humanity - and to accept all the chaotic emotional energy in a love affair. Both are anathema to us!

This has been a revelation for my Scorp: The strong, silent, self-contained guy she first met is actually an emotional child...

I teased Debra for months that I was gonna sing her a special song. She had no idea what it was going to be. But after I did my impression of the youngest Beatle, she understood some of the crap I put her through over the summer of 2006.

Virgo Man can love - and truly. Virgo Man wants to love. But... he's afraid of what that might entail...

The indecisiveness of Virgo Man during courtship is a reflection of a terrible inner struggle. To admit to feelings of love means admitting to Feelings. To accept the reality of feelings is to accept our humanity - and to accept all the chaotic emotional energy in a love affair. Both are anathema to us!

Quoted for great justice.
I don't like feeling weak and vulnerable. I don't like emotions. I don't like this chaos.

lolololol


can you actually sing, Dy? i know that song. the thought of you singing it is so funny to me. i dunno why.

i want a man to sing "Golden Lady" by Stevie Wonder to me. a man who is a good singer though.

Yes, I can sing. I do a pretty rendition of Steven Perry on Faithfully, an almost perfect Chris Isaak on Wicked Game, and a surprisingly good (and passionate!) George Michael on Careless Whisper...

Karaoke is one of the "outlets" Debra & I have in common. When we did our version of Stevie Nicks & Tom Petty on Stop Draggin' My Heart Around we got a standing ovation (well, from those sober enough to stand up!)...

pretty rendition = pretty good rendition

wow, you can sing wicked game? i'm genuinely impressed.

... not to mention, the passion of a VirGuy with Venus in Leo!

yes, wheels, I can sing Chris Isaak. And, some of the lyrics really strike home...

No, I don't want to fall in love
[This love is only gonna break your heart]
No, I don't want to fall in love
[This love is only gonna break your heart]
With you
With you

Virgo Man will resist falling, because he knows there's a bottom!

My VirDad used to say that Mom had him "by the short hairs!" We can simultaneously love you, and resent loving you. Yet, we're also amazed by the love between us, because we don't truly understand it.

Love does not make sense. Love cannot be analyzed. The intangibles play havoc with us. And yet, Mr. Spock is half-Human, and will desire what he cannot understand (nor understand why he is desiring it!)...

See how simple we are??

Maybe you're the only woman who can ever help me

We'll search high & low, and wait forever for The One who can understand us. And when we find her, we'll stick to her like glue, because we know how rare she is...

I go on & on & on about my ScorpWife, and I'm sure that's annoying to you DXPers, but - Tough Shit!

It took me 30 years to find a woman who truly gets me - and that's something to crow about!

See, she's got The One Thing...

Well you know just what you do to me
The way you move soft and slippery
Cut the night just like a razor
Rarely talk and that's the danger

It's the one thing
You are my thing

You know your voice is a love song
It's a cat call from the past
There's no ice in your lovers walk
You don't look twice cause you move so fast

It's the one thing
You are my thing

That was truly beautiful!

That's the some of the best advice I've heard and so reasonable and extremely helpful in regards to the virgo I know.
Im a scorp, and Im interested in a Virgo. This helps me understand a great deal.
Thank you for your wisdom DyarS 🙂
if you have anymore, wisdom that is, please share....

bijou2u: You cannot overpower him, you cannot seduce him - you can only stand on the other side of the veil and show him that you've gone first and it is up to him to fight his own battle, and surrender to himself...and when he does, that you will be there - understanding that in so doing, he has completely transformed.

Wow! That paragraph is truly prescient. Virgo prefers not to lead - not because he's a coward, but because he's cautious (as my Scorp says OFTEN, "You Think TOO MUCH!"). At the start of our courtship, Debra assumed The Pilot would lead, but she quickly realized that I had no map for the emotional terrain, and that she would have to coax me through that uncharted territory...

And, once I trusted her, I was willing to follow her anywhere - that's the key!

Yep, and the revelation came before she got you into the back of the jeep!😉

Ah VGM! You've been with me since the outset of my Scorpionic Odyssey!

Yeah, she got it pretty quick (yep, meant that one!), but she's never patronized me about my juvenile emotive skills. And... I love her for it. We don't "talk down" to each other. And, for her part, she accepts that I'm "Herr Professor" & "Inspector Gadget" rolled into one... But, she can be quite unmerciful at times, like: "Sweetheart, I can't sleep. Would you explain something - anything! - to me??"

theskys: That is why Dyar loves her, because she stuck out the fight.

Yep, we respect strength. Not bravado, but real strength of character... and, for a sweet petite, she's got an oil tanker's worth!

To keep this from being yet another DY LOVES DEBRA thread...

LibraEX & I had special songs, too...

1. Supertramp - The Logical Song NO LIE! We used to sing it together all the time!
2. 10cc - I'm Not In Love (Could be the default Love Song for Virgo Men?)
3. Art Garfunkel - I Only Have Eyes For You
4. Queen - Crazy Little Thing Called Love
5. Ambrosia - Biggest Part Of Me

Who says Libra & Virgo can't fall in love? For many years, we were a very happy couple. My VirDad thought we were the Ideal Couple... my Leo Mom had a different opinion.

10cc - I'm Not In Love

10cc - I'm Not In Love

I'm not in love, so don't forget it
It's just a silly phase I'm going through
And just because I call you up
Don't get me wrong, don't think you've got it made
I'm not in love, no-no
(It's because...)

I like to see you, but then again
That doesn't mean you mean that much to me
So if I call you, don't make a fuss
Don't tell your friends about the two of us
I'm not in love, no-no
(It's because...)

(Be quiet, big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)
(Big boys don't cry)

I keep your picture upon the wall
It hides a nasty stain that's lyin' there
So don't you ask me to give it back
I know you know it doesn't mean that much to me
I'm not in love, no-no
(It's because...)

Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me
Ooh, you'll wait a long time

Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me
Ooh, you'll wait a long time

I'm not in love, so don't forget it
It's just a silly phase I'm going through
And just because I call you up
Don't get me wrong, don't think you've got it made, ooh

I'm not in love, I'm not in love...

** Sound like any Virgos y'all know?? **

Thank you, but I'm the lucky one. Virgo Love is Tough Love.

SA: So, Dy finally comes clean with his CP issues.

Typical Virgo Woman!

Imagine that you're standing on a beach, trying to decide if you'll go into the water...

What if it's cold? What if there are jellyfish? What if there's an undertow?

Finally, you wade into the water, and finally enjoy yourself.

Were you Commitment Phobic before you took the plunge, or merely overly cautious??

Virgo likes to know what he's getting into...

and finally enjoy yourself. = and find that you enjoy yourself.

SA: What's wrong with a Dy Loves Debra thread?

It's repetitive - most of my Love threads, S+V threads, etc. wind up with me yakking about my fantabulous ScorpWife and my VGL for her...

f_s: Did you ever have songs for a woman in the past when you didn't love her?

Of course. As Eric Carmen puts it:

When I was young
I never needed anyone
And making love was just for fun

For a while in my youth, all I wanted to do was hook-up & screw. The Taurus Chick settled me down, and taught me the true joy of Love + Sex (what a groovy equation!); and LibraEX benefited from the more mature me...

After our divorce, I reverted back a bit, and had some very short-term sexual relationships - but part of that was not wanting to get serious, then married, then divorced again...

Some of my hesitation with Debra was the end of that phase. And here's a weird truth: As it got closer to completing my country house, I felt more settled, and ready to get serious again...

Virgo has to have his shit together before he can let romance stir everything up!

Strings: Some guys do lead women on . . . on a "high speed chase" . . . only to "skip town" when the rubber meets the road.

True, but that's not "natural" for a Virgo. Or, it's not intended. We can accidentally dork-up a relationship, and have no clue what the hell went wrong. As I've said many times before: VG is difficult to date, but much better to marry, than the average guy...

Strings,

I've met all kinda VirGuys over my 48 years; but yes, when it comes to Emotions, there are mature ones, and immature ones. I haven't met a VirGuy yet who didn't feel. The difference is in how we deal with feelings. And, since Love is one of the strongest feelings, it separates the Men from the Boys...

All the posts on DXP about Virgo Robots is pure bullshit. Which is why I tell the Whining Women to look in a mirror... if your VirGuy isn't emotional about you, it's either because you don't inspire him, and/or he's emotional about someone else...

But, us VirGuys do have to take a hit on how we Deal (or No Deal!) with our feelings. It's taken me YEARS to get to where I am now, and that's a sad thing for me, and for my Libra first wife. She's a good woman, but not for me - or, not at the time we were together...

Yes, I'm putting some of the onus on the Woman, but in a relationship, each must be ready to help the other - because we all have our shortcomings...

That's a big difference between LibraEX and my ScorpWife: Where Libra would try to cause drama to get an emotional reaction out of me, Debra encourages me to be more expressive, and rewards even the tiniest venting from the Tin Man. Over almost 3 years, she's shaped me into an emotionally mature VirGuy...

She made an emotional connection with me very quickly - because she could (that's what Scorps are all about!) - and then she built on it...

And... I'm still amazed by her!

I also think that Water Sign Women can be very good for mature Earth Sign Men, while the immature guys are probably better off with tough Earth Gals - if the latter can keep from kicking their asses too early and too often!!

And Earth gives form & substance to Water... almost like somebody planned it!

My first "Debra Thread" on DXP back in 2006 was about Scorpio / Virgo relationship tempo -- I felt that Debra wanted to move faster than I was comfortable with...

Or, as Jefferson Starship sang it:

You say it'll take you a year, I say it'll take me a second
But there's room for both of us, just open the room
You know a year of time sees so many changes
But the speed of light in the black of night makes a full moon

Shaka: ...this is a combo that is based most on security rather than evolving.

One astrologer called S + V the Mutual Admiration Society, and in my experience, Debra & I picked up on our complementary strengths & weaknesses early in the relationship. We have definitely changed each other for the better.

...in more casual settings (club scene, etc) I see Virgos hooking up more often with Libras, Aries or Sag.

That's interesting, and I tend to agree. I had a blind date with a SAG before Debra came along. I really liked the SAG - we would've had a great short-term relationship. But when Virgo starts thinking seriously, those casual hook-ups don't have staying power - nothing like Taurus, or a sweet Water Girl...

My take on the astrology. But I think love/romance/sexual relationships may have just as much or more to do with the Mars/Venus signs than the Sun sign. Even CG Jung noted that a conjunction between one partner's Venus and the other partner's Mars seemed to occur unusually often in romantic relationships, and my experience has borne this out. (But since my Venus is in Virgo as well as my sun, that pretty well dooms me to love Virgos.)

Virgo=the perfect man, as I have stated in other threads.
Taurus=well he's my husband, if you want safe-sane-and secure, there's your ticket. Couldn't be farther from understanding my inmost soul...
Cancer=mmm, love those sweet Cancer men, such darlings. But sooo sensitive, that my blunt Virgo ways seem to often run roughshod over them, in spite of all my care.
Capricorn=my "dad"s. (Not my actual dad.) Yes, working relationships. So many of my bosses and teachers have been Capricorns. I am their greatest fan and supporter. They like me too - they think I'm cute, and they always help me out.
Scorpio=never saw much there. The word for them (in my experience) is "dependent." We've been good friends though, as long as it stays on a friend basis.
Aries=? don't get it.
Gemini=good intellectual companions. Always something to talk about. They wear well. Romance, not.
Leo=? don't get it. I guess as long as you just worship them, all is well.
Libra=can be good friends and good bosses. I know a lot of female Libras but very few males. Seems to be some friction, especially with the males. I guess I have to aspire to being a Libra next, so maybe I'll get it eventually. I don't get how they like being around people so much.
Sagittarius=exhausting. But my Mars is there, so I do tend to get involved against my better judgment. Talk about needing Red Bull.
Aquarius=never quite works out either. Good friends, let's leave it at that. (My moon is there so I can understand where they're coming from, intellectually at least.)
Pisces=COMPLEX. Way beyond me. I feel sorry for their agony. Sometimes I have been able to help them by being supportive, the relationship is similar to with Capricorns - I'm a mere kid.

Athena

My Virgo girl told me the other night that Love = Suffering. She prefers not to love as the pain is too much. Being friends and having a Friendly Love is easy for her and her preference. The problem is we are way past the Friend Love. So one week ago, she ended it and we both cried together. I have yet to let this go and we still talk daily. I am trying to enjoy the moments but also expect her to cut me off completely. Time will tell as my desires appear to be stronger than hers at the moment.

Aw Scorpio f/Virgo m gets me right in the feels

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Aw Scorpio f/Virgo m gets me right in the feels

Have you read all his posts? HE WAS NOT A FAN! Was married to one. click to expand

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Wait wha- the OP? I thought he loved her. You were married to one?

I wonder if they're still together?... I remember the love story?.

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Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Aw Scorpio f/Virgo m gets me right in the feels

Have you read all his posts? HE WAS NOT A FAN! Was married to one. click to expand

Wait wha- the OP? I thought he loved her. You were married to one? click to expand

No, I had just seen a couple of his posts where he said don't do it. click to expand

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Ohhhhhhhh hmm welp it’s been years so I wonder how he and his Scorp wife are doing