True Virgos?

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Ok, I'm starting to wonder if "Branh, VirgoEx and An known" are all the same person? Or maybe it's just that they are all the "other virgos" the harsh, shouting, argumentitive, mean ones... so much so that THIS Virgo questions weather they are Virgos in truth? Are they posers? Beings who hate Virgos and come here just in hopes of making Virgos look bad?

Could it be that they/he is just a little kid? A 12 year old? Not mature enough to understand that you have to be nice to people? That you shouldn't speak in ALL CAPS as much as they/he does?

Remember that StarTrek episode when some of the crew get switched in a parallel universe? The good Kirk and the Evil Kirk etc? Could they have gotten switched too somehow? LOL.

How about a vote...

How many think they are the same person?

How many think they are just the "evil Virgos"



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I'm not a Virgo at all, so I don't know Virgo traits at all. All I can say is, I think Virgos rock. They are my favorite sun sign. I know a Virgo guy who has not been the easiest at all. Even though he's brought pain and annoyance, it doesn't change my view of Virgos at all.

As for if it's the same person acting out as different people, I can't say. No matter what, my view on Virgos can't be changed. I hope I meet another Virgo in my life time. The Virgo I know, I think is not the typical Virgo at all. Therefore, I'd love to meet a real Virgo because after everthing I've gone through, I'm not tarnished against Virgos at all. In fact, my curiousity has increased.


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hello, catfish; it's been a while...Ferghus this is where it gets PERSONAL...I am NOTHING LIKE BRANH; You need to understand I believe in myself, and I understand this is not a hallmark, or concern of Virgo; I am NOT THE MACHINE YOU PROBABLY OWN UP TO; I AM A VIRGO, WHO WORKS OFF INSPIRATION, AND YES, I AM HARSH, AND ARGUMENTIVE, BUT THIS IS ONLY IN RESPONSE TO A 'FOOLISH REMARK' OR A IGNORANT RESPONSE TO SOMEONE ELSE...TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SPEAK RIGHTEOUSLY TO ME, AND EXPECT TO GET 'SWEET LIL VIRGO OUTTA ME IS ALL WRONG' I am DEFINITELY more outgoing, and unafraid to mix it up with any other sign; I am ON THE SIDREAL ZODIAC, A LEO; PERHAPS THAT EXPLAINS THE HARSHNESS; BUT HARSHNESS IS USUALLY A RESPONSE OF VIRGO; you call me, or perhaps Branh childish, but it is DIPLOMATIC to be nice, and I usually am, but unlike you, I FIGHT TO THE NASTY, PAINFUL, BITTER END FOR A BELIEF I HOLD DEAR AND INSIDE MY HEART I FEAR NO ONE!!; PERHAPS UNLIKE YOU, I WEILD AN ELEMENT 'OUT OF CHARACTER' OF VIRGO....PASSION, AND COURAGE, I SPEAK IN CAPS NOT IN ANGER BUT IN 'FEELING' FERGHUS.....I am 'Sidreally' a LEO, and Yes, I have passion, and intensity, which is why you call me argumentive, but I BELIEVE IN FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING YOU BELIEVE/LOVE...yet if you vote me evil ferghus, which by the way i am indifferent to, you may direct me to where the pick-up line for wreaping Sythes are....I will take my dark wings; no prob on this end...I MAKE EMPHASIS ON NOT, I REPEAT NOT BEING BRANH; I AM THE 'OPEN' VIRGO, AND WEILD SOCIAL COMFORT, AND EASE; I DON'T NEED TO BE AROUND PEOPLE, BUT THEY CAN MAKE NICE PETS EVERY SO OFTEN.....
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Here is my Birth Chart and Data FOR THE TROPICAL ZODIAC; D.O.B. September 6, 1988 (I AM young, but I am NO FOOL)
Rising:Capricorn
Sun:Virgo
Moon:Cancer
Mercury:Libra
Venus:Cancer
Jupiter:Gemini
Mars:Aries
Neptune:Capricorn
Uranus:Saggittarius
Saturn:Saggittarius
Pluto:Scorpio

On the sidreal, Here is my Birth Chart data:
Rising:Saggittarius
Sun:Leo
Moon:Cancer
Mercury:Virgo
Venus:Gemini
Jupiter:Taurus
Mars😛isces or Aries still
Neptune:Saggittarius
Uranus:Saggittarius
Saturn:Scorpio
Pluto:Libra

If you feel ignorant in the way of the sidreal; check the leo post, and check 'SIDREAL LEOS—?'. You see, Ferghus, I KNOW myself on BOTH sidreal, and Tropical zodicas; so I can UNDERSTAND MY BEHAVIORS; I SUPPOSE I SHOULD BE MORE ACCEPTING OF OTHERS, AND LESS PERSONAL....But I am not THE SAME SIGN ON BOTH CHARTS.
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"so much so that THIS Virgo questions weather they are Virgos in truth? Are they posers?"

It's so funny you got this feeling. When VirgoExalted first came to these boards, only a few weeks ago, him and I had a row about this very thing. It was obvious to me from the beginning, that he doesn't behave like the rest. So, I know what you mean . . he's so unlike any I've ever encountered, that it makes you wonder as to the truth . . .

As for Branh . . he is one of a kind and there is no way VE and Branh could be the same person. Their personalities are completely different. An known is new, just this past week. Has anyone ever got him/her to say anything besides those caps of distain?

Another thing, VE is only 17 years old, so he still has to grow into his Virgoness. He's still at that stomping his feet, listen to me stage . . he'll get there. Being a teenager isn't easy . . once he overcomes his hormones rushing him . . he'll probably behave like the rest of his kind.
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Mine was already grown when I met him, but, his mother used to tell me stories about him as an adolecsant . . geeeeeez, he was a spinning wheel

But, not just Virgo's . . all the signs have to grow into themselves. With hormones raging, it's hard to do that. I find myself now, going through menopause and back to those pesky little emotional outbursts due to hormone inbalance. Once that's past, hopefully, I'll get back to my normal self, with only a tad of the sass.

It's the caps that make it so hard to communicate.

VE: Please stop capping so much. People take it as "yelling"
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>VE: Please stop capping so much. People take it as "yelling"

It's ok to highlight SOME words, like I just did to make a point, but to use so many caps, is taken as yelling, even if it's only intended as INTENSE talking. Maybe you consider it to be that VirgoEx, but toning it down would be a good idea.

>Ferghus this is where it gets PERSONAL...I am NOTHING LIKE BRANH

I could be wrong about you VirgoEx... maybe it's only Branh and ah known who are the same person, heh. It's the INTENSE posts and all the caps... that made me think you might be... even tho VirgoEx doesn't seem to be plainly offensive as Branh and ah have been.

Now, it is interesting that VirgoEx has told us his birth year, 1988. Since me and Dy are both RATS according to the Chinese calander, I wonder what VirgoEx is? Anyone know what the Chinese sign for 1988 is?
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Hmms, we could be onto something here... So VirgoEx is a Virgo Dragon...

The Celestial Dragon
Dragons are born leaders. The feisty, lucky, and powerful dragon people are looked up to by others. Symbols of the Chinese emperors, dragons see their power as indisputable and are idealistic perfectionists. A born monarch, a dragon is proud, very enthusiastic, influential, and dynamic. A dragon is aggressive and determined, someone who gets things started and keeps them moving. Very outspoken, dragons have opinions worth listening to and they give good advice. Gifted, tenenacious, and generous, dragons tend to have distinguished careers and enjoy great success.

However, dragons lose their tempers easily and tend to be overly-proud and self-confident, so they can be irritable, stubborn, tyrannical, and snobby. They are obsessed with rank, prestige, wealth, and splendour. Also, dragons do not grow old gracefully and despise the loss of energy and strength that accompanies aging.
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The Restless Rat

Rat people are born under the sign of charm and aggressiveness. They are expressive and are talkative at times. They like to party and spend quite a lot of time chatting with their friends. Although the rat has the ability to be quiet, it is rare to see a rat sitting quietly.

Rat people usually have more acquaintances than real friends. They revere and cherish those close to them. Once you become their true friends, they will treat you like family. Rats are self-contained and keep their problems to themselves - even though they can be talkative sometimes, they never confide in anyone.

Somewhat mean, narrow-minded and suburban in outlook, rat people are nevertheless honest. They can always make a success out of their lives as long as they manage to master their perpetual discontent and their insistence on living in the present.

A rat is quick-witted. Most rats get more accomplished in 24 hours than the rest of us do in as many days. They are confident and generally have good instincts. Stubborn as they are, they prefer to live by their own rules rather than by others. It is not easy to work with rat people as they are 100% perfectionists.

Rats are very organized and talented which is why a rat makes a good businessman or politician. However, as soon as a rat earns money, he spends it. Perhaps that explains why a rat is so careful when he lends money to others. If you ever borrow money from a rat, don't be surprised by the high interest he charges.

A rat is not romantic but he is sensual and loving. Rat people are hard to get to know at first as they are very protective but they are worth it - ask anyone who has a rat for a lover, parent, child or friend. They are very loyal and devoted to their families. The best match for a rat is a dragon or monkey. Good matches are an ox, another rat, or pig. Ok matches are a tiger, dog, or snake. Matches of a rooster, sheep, rabbit, or horse are not advised.
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METAL RAT Horoscope
Jan 31, 1900 to Feb 18, 1901
Jan 28, 1960 to Feb 14, 1961

Rat people are so charming and attractive they are always surrounded by friends and admirers. They can also be lone tumbleweeds, seldom making lasting friendships. Known as Perfectionists, they never want to lose face. It takes an understanding friend to get them to "put on the dancing plumes." Rat people have vivid imagination and are known for creating extraordinarily magic moments in time. Not surprisingly, the sensitive Rats have the gift of insight and clairvoyance, so you better watch out what you think around them! Rats enjoy being leaders and pacesetters and usually enjoy extraordinary success in life.

Hearty Bean Soup is one of the keys to good health for a Rat!!

If ten people are deserted on a desert island, one of them will lead everyone to safety and that person will undoubtedly be the decisive clear-thinking Metal Rat. This is a natural born leader who inspires everyone through unparalleled leadership! Quite the visionary, the idealistic Rat will see cathedrals in the middle of the desert and make believers out of non-believers. He or she has all the traits necessary to win and keep friends, charm, sincerity, trustworthiness, as well as a sense of humor and grand adventure. The enormously capable Metal Rats are very successful in their career, with financial rewards keeping them forever in clover. When it comes to love, Metal Rats' hearts tend to be a bit brittle because they have been wounded by past love affairs. However, when the Rats finally find the right person, they will do all they can to pursue love, using every means at their disposal. Love becomes a high priority.
Famous RAT people: Richard Nixon, Shakespeare, Prince Charles, Julia Child, Louis Armstrong, Prince Andrew, Andrew Lloyd-Webber, Kathleen Battle, Albert Finney
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Branh....

>What a ridiculous post. I don't even know who An Known is.

Well, AK is mighty simular to you, no doubt about it...

>Clydelover, you seem to be overly emotional actually.

I've very emotional. Especially lately, as I've met a Cappy gal and although I have the hots for her, she is being very careful and it's tough to get together with her often enough as her work is all important. It's frustrating, but I'm going to stick it out in hopes of a good long term relationship.

>I may say offensive things, but there is always an underlying truth to all I say. Its not a comforable truth, but I don't say things just to be mean.

Maybe your mom never told you to BE NICE. But it's one thing that's so important. To be nice to other people. To think positivly. There are things we all feel, yet should be VERY careful about saying... pause and reflect and make sure before we go on the attack.

YOu're too quick to attack, but then, you come across as a youngling, so perhaps as you mature, you'll learn the value of being nice and withholding judgement until you have the wisdom of years behind you to make judgements in a careful and just manner.

>It is just that people will fake until you draw their hatred from within them. Hate is real, and when humans feel hatred, then you know it is genuine.

We all feel hatred, at one time or another. I feel it welling up from within many times, but keep it to myself so I can reflect on what is making me so angry. I have to look at all sides of the issue before expressing that anger. Generally, 99% of whatever I'm angry about disipates upon reflection.

Hatred makes people become unhinged, makes them react without thinking, reacting from their base natures. But as apes with the power of speech, and the power of higher thought, it behooves us to hold hate in check. To tread very carefully when hatred rears it's ugly head.

This takes patience, understanding, knowledge, time, the ability to look at both sides of the issue.

Hate is a POWERFUL force, but one that needs to be held in check with reason. It takes effort to do this. But we humans can do it.

Hopefully you will learn, grow and become wise to this way of thinking, and calm your inner demons. Tell them off. Tell them to go away and leave you in peace. I have them too, everyone does... but I learned long ago, to tell them to go away.. that I didn't, wouldn't listen to their crap.

So I become angry at times, then calm myself, and think
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Continued,

So I become angry at times, then calm myself, and think positivly.

Many people don't recognise they are there, but they are, and can be defeated, can be ignored, can be overrulled. IT's a struggle, but you can win it. YOU control your life, thoughts, and destiny, NOT them. YOU have the power to change and become a force for GOOD.

I heard once that "all sin is selfishness, and all selfishness is sin". I don't fully agree with that, but there is a lot of truth to that statement. We have to be selfish at times. We have to take care of ourselves first, if we are to be able to take care of others. Yet, we have to guard against becomming TOO selfish, so selfish that we forget there are others around us who have their needs too. If we are too selfish, we risk becomming evil. It's a life battle... there must be a balance. NOt too much GOOD, or too much EVIL.

There must be a balance.
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P, this IS WHO I AM....there is no changing it; I will work on the temper-tantrums, but I ASK YOU NOT TO JUST LABEL ME AS 'TYPICAL TEEN'......I AM SIDREALLY, A LEO....I WANT TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF, AND GIVE MY VITAL SPIRIT TO OTHERS; ON THE TROPICAL ZODIAC THAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT, I AM 'LABELED' VIRGO....MY ENERGY, AND EXPRESSION IS ALL LEONINE; A TEEN VIRGO (I know 6 of them) depending on when they were born, are fiery, or very placid in behavior; THAT BREAKS DOWN SIDREALLY AS LEO, OR VIRGO; SEPTEMBER IS DIVIDED IN HALF, AND IS FROM AUGUST 10 TO SEPTEMBER 15, YOU ARE STILL CALLED A LEO, BECUASE THE SUN IS STILL IN LEO....that is the truth p, and I've noticed also, as I am fiery, you are logical, and you are a pisces no? you behave like a Aqua....just a thought p; I LIKE WHO I AM; It gives me pride to be a person who can change the world, so don't just shove me aside like I AM JUST....blah, blah; I'm a person and make presence not becuase I just want to, but becuase I want to change things; i don't want to lose my fiery, idealistic nature....the thing that makes me unique, and special...I won't allow anyone to reason that outta me p....