VIRGOS AND FREEDOM

This post/topic is about the Virgo, and his/her freedom. I personally am a HIGHLY FREEDOM LOVING PERSON, and If I don't have the freedom to come or go, to relate, and understand; I hate life. I like to have people/things at my fingertips, and only because I know things come, and go, and I don't really like to be 'dependent' on any one thing; I like to maintain a sense of self-reliance, and independence becuase of this. I as a Virgo enjoy having the ability to 'pop' in on a friend and take the by surprise, because I haven't forgotten them, and how they make me feel; It's just I have a tendacy to need time, and LOTS OF IT TO MYSELF; I CAN'T BE AROUND PEOPLE FOR TOO LONG, BECAUSE I EITHER LOSE INTREST, OR THEY INFRINDGE ON MY NEED TO EXPLORE MYSELF, AND HOW I RELATE TO THINGS; I NEED MY ALONE TIME TO ACESS MY OWN WORTH, AND TO JUST BLOW ANYWHERE I'D LIKE TOO...Anybody else agree to this—?

Yes. I do believe that a lot of virgos will agree to this. I personally know a virgo that loves his freedom all too much, as also a couple virgos that I've met on this site. I really don't understand why virgos enjoy sacrificing their freedom for someone elses cause. This is coming from an aquarius, and for the true, servant virgos reading this, I don't mean to offend you. LoL!

"OR THEY INFRINDGE ON MY NEED TO EXPLORE MYSELF"

I have an extra copy of Penthouse, if you want to borrow it . .

"TO JUST BLOW ANYWHERE I'D LIKE TOO..." Whatever turns you on, mate.

Second thought, keep the magazine . . .


lol

HI VE,

Yes, I agree. Virgos do need their time alone in order to keep his/her composure. Most virgo men love their freedom more then anything else, BUT, they can be very protect towards those they care about 😉

When I say explore myself, I mean my thoughts, ideals, beliefs, my INDEPENDENT EGO/PERSONALITY; I like being alone, becuase it give me the chance to just do as I want and to just wander around If I like; it's my way to gain acess to new possibilities, and ideas;I for one DO NOT SACRIFICE MY FREEDOM; FOR ANYONE, I DO KNOW THAT IN A RELATIONSHIP IT IS A LITTLE MORE CLOSE-SPACED, BUT I NEED TO GET WITH A PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS MY NEED OF FREEDOM. When I say blow anywhere I'd like to, I say go anywhere I want; just to walk around, and move, and to experience is important to me.....If I feel that you cannot accept this freedom-loving soul of mine, than you aren't worth while....however if you are willing to work with me....we can draw something up to suit you and I..I can be protective towards my loved ones, but can as a Virgo, detach easily as well, which is why I'm not completely wretched by a person when they may say,
"I no longer love you," ha, Intellectually, if you want to go, I accept it, I won't stop you...and won't beg, or plead either; if it's your time, than it's your time to go...I see your sense of humor P-Angel, although it was a little oprutunistic, that really hurt becuase I was trying to make a point and it was UNDERESTIMATED, AND TAKEN LIGHTLY....

That was MIGGGHHHTY insensitve of you, P, that SMARTED, but I guess you didn't mean it so, yeah....lol!!!.

HEY VIRGOS, WONDER FOREVER UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER. GOODLUCK!

I just wanna know why you can make light of others, but become something of a 'wet blanket' yourself when you get made fun of—?; I really don't get that; we can have fun, but then you just down right CONFUSE ME....I guess we REALLY DO SWIM UP DIFFERENT STREAMS....

.. EVERY PERSON NEED FREEDOM. NEED SPACE TO WORK WITH THEIR OWN ISSUES. BUT DON'T YOU THINK IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL FOR NOT FIGHTING FOR SOMEONE YOU REALLY LOVE AND WATCH THEM GO AWAY JUST LIKE THAT? LOVE DOESN'T MAGNIFY PROBLEMS TO JUSTIFY QUITTING.

.. VIRGOS DO NOT KNOW WHAT REAL LOVE IS ABOUT. MAYBE THEY CAN FIGURE THAT OUT 'CUZ THEY THINK THEY'RE SMART. GO AHEAD JUST LOVE YOURSELF, FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL ACCEPT YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE, I HOPE IT'S NOT TOO LATE WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW YOU MADE ONE SLIP AWAY 'CUZ YOU'RE BUSY WITH YOUR "FREEDOM" AND THAT YOU'LL END UP ALONE.

.. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.

.. SEE THEY'RE EASILY CONFUSED? THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR SELVES. WALK YOUR TALK, VIRGOS.

.. YOU SAID YOU'RE THE SMARTEST OF ALL SIGNS, RIGHT?

an known, I don't really know who the hell you are, or what the hell your AIM IS, AND COULD GIVE A DOUBLE-RIPPLE SHIT-SUNDAE LESS OF YOU, AND YOUR DISGRUNTLED ATTITUDE, AND PSYCH-WARD RESIDENCY, but I LOVE my family; people go into categories for me; family, friends, then aquaintances, IF YOU MAKE IT INTO THE FRIENDS&FAMILY CATEGORY, THEN I WILL DIE FOR YOU, AND WILL CERTAINLY NOT LET YOU GO, BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT AS A VIRGO, WE DO LIKE OUR SPACE, TO DO AS WE WILL; IF YOU BECOME AN AQUAINTANCE, HOWEVER, I WON'T THINK TOO DEEPLY OF YOU; YA KNOW LIKE THE WAY I THINK OF YOU, AND YOU DRAMA, AND BS!!LOL!!. I feel HORRIBLE if I can't have my people I CARE about around me, I just need time to just be alone; becuase people WHO DO LOVE THEMSELVES CAN BE ALONE TO ENJOY THEMSELVES; I PITTY YOU BECUASE YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE SPURRNED BY A VIRGO.....FOR CHRIST SAKES, STOP GENERALIZING ONE'S BEHAVIORS FOR THE WHOLE DAMNED SIGN!!!!!. some people like it; I don't know who you are but perhaps your just vexed by Virgo and her reansoning; you seem moved by emotion, not reason; who ever the hell you are you are VENTING, not REASONING...get back to me when you've calmed down;AND BECOME AN ADULT...THEN PERHAPS WE CAN GET DOWN TO IT!!.

FOR CHRIST SAKES, STOP GENERALIZING ONE'S BEHAVIORS FOR THE WHOLE DAMNED SIGN!!!!!.

.. SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS BOARD—?? CONTEMPLATING, ARGUING, EXCHANGING BS?!?!?!!?!!!

.. AREN'T VIRGOS SUPPOSED TO BE SMART??!!!

.. I AM AN ADULT. ADULTS DON'T MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED. WHAT'S THE POINT?!?!—??

.. OH I FORGOT .. ADULTS STILL DO MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED.. POOR THING!

WHAT A SELF-RIGHTEOUS A-HOLE AN KNOWN IS!!!!!; I DON'T KNOW YOUR SIGN, BUT I WON'T GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF ALLOWING ME TO MISS OUT ON A GOOD SIGN OF YOURSELF!!!!; WE ARE SMART BECUASE WE ARE OPEN-MINED, AND ALLOW BS LIKE YOURS TO FALL DOWN IN THE TOILET IT WAS MEANT TO!!! I QUIT ON PEOPLE WHO QUIT ON THEMSELVES!!!!!! WTF IS THE POINT OF BEING WITH SOMEONE YOU HAVE TO PET, FEED, AND STROKE IN TERMS OF EGO!?!?!?!??!!! IF YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF, AND WANT TO JUST GIVE ME THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RAISE YOU AS MY CHILD, THEN PERHAPS I'D BE BETTER OF BEING YOUR DADDY, AND DADDY SAY.....CLEAN IT UP!!!!

I just need time to just be alone; becuase people WHO DO LOVE THEMSELVES CAN BE ALONE TO ENJOY THEMSELVES; I PITTY YOU BECUASE YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE SPURRNED BY A VIRGO.....


.. YOU ARE RIGHT, VIRGOS LOVE THEMSELVES TOO MUCH THAT THEY'RE MISSING OUT THE MOST HAPPIEST PART OF ONE'S LIFE. OR PERHAPS THEY'RE JUST BORN TO BE LONELY. SULKING AND SULKING. BUSY BEING WORRIED OF THE WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEENS AND WHAT MIGHT NOT IN THEIR LIVES. A WORRY-WART. THAT'S SO SICK.

.. OPEN-MINDED? I DON'T THINK SO.

WE ARE SMART BECUASE WE ARE OPEN-MINED, AND ALLOW BS LIKE YOURS TO FALL DOWN IN THE TOILET IT WAS MEANT TO!!! I QUIT ON PEOPLE WHO QUIT ON THEMSELVES!!!!!! WTF IS THE POINT OF BEING WITH SOMEONE YOU HAVE TO PET, FEED, AND STROKE IN TERMS OF EGO!?!?!?!??!!!

.. EGO? THAT'S NOT EGO? THAT'S LOVE. THAT'S SACRIFICE. D-U-H?!?!?

.. IF YOU WANT ME TO AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT FREEDOM. YOU WON'T GET IT. DUH?!?!!!!!

Some people like it; I don't know who you are but perhaps your just vexed by Virgo and her reansoning; you seem moved by emotion, not reason; who ever the hell you are you are VENTING, not REASONING...get back to me when you've calmed down;

.. LOOK WHO'S TALKING? AREN'T YOU VENTING YOURSELF WITHOUT ANY REASON AT ALL?

.. ARGUING WITH THESE PEOPLE IS A WASTE OF TIME. THIS IS AN ENDLESS FAULT-FINDING. FULL OF CRAP.

If you were an adult an known why are you trying to generalize a SINGLE behavior on ONE sign?...IF you are an adult, and don't make things complicated, why do you cling to your hatred of Virgo— IT ONLY EATS AT YOU!!! PERHAPS YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WILL BE FROZEN IN HELL AFTERALL LOL!!!. The damned point of this board was to adress another 'view' of Virgo, to be 'open minded' in approach to the sign; obviously you are one to cling to conventions and pre-concieved notions of a sign before you meet the sign ITSELF!! You are biased obviously, and if you want to VENT, OR ARGUE there is a BOARD CALLED 'VIRGO VENTING'!! You wanna go for the jugular, FINE BY ME LET'S GO THERE TO GET IT ON!!!! LET'S SEE IF I CAN BE AS SUPERFICIAL AS YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SIGNS!!, OH, WAIT, YOUR JUDGEMENTAL BUECUASE YOU'VE CHOSEN TO SPEAK WHOLELY ON A SIGN, NOT A PERSON; WTF DO YOU HATE VIRGOS ANYWAY?!?!?! AT LEAST HAVE THE BALLS/BREASTS TO SPEAK IT; I MEAN I CAN'T DO ANYTHING PHYSICALLY!!!!!; YOU MUST HAVE JUST BEEN RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL WHAT THE HELL DID YOU O.D. ON—??!!!!! HORMONAL PILLS OR SOME SHIT!!!!!!?? YOU DIDN'T ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT LOVE, OR LOVED ONES; FIRST OFF, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT VIRGO, YOU COULD START BY ASKING ONE YOU BARREN A-HOLE, RATHER THAN COMING OUTRIGHT AT MY F******G THROAT LIKE THE F******G GASTOPO ON A BROOKLYN JEW!!!! I AM A VIRGO, AND LIKE FREEDOM, BUT WOULDN'T DARE LET GO OF A LOVED ONE!!! SOME HUMANS ARE ACTUALLY INDEPENT AND SELF-SUFFICIENT RATHER THAN RELYING ON SOMEONE ELSE FOR COMFORT!!!!! YA KNOW WHAT, TAKE YOU SELF-RIGHTEOUS ASS AND 'BLOW ON' YOU SHOULD HAVE A PREscriptION TO FILL OR SOMETHING!!!

an known: FOR CHRIST SAKES, STOP GENERALIZING ONE'S BEHAVIORS FOR THE WHOLE DAMNED SIGN!!!!!.

What are you talking about? Virgo as a whole act this way, and virgo's must have at least a good amount of similarities to their main sign in order to feel like they are really a virgo. This is the reason for this topic.

an known:.. AREN'T VIRGOS SUPPOSED TO BE SMART??!!!

an known:.. OH I FORGOT .. ADULTS STILL DO MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED.. POOR THING!

...Look who's generalizing...think before you speak please.

.. SEE JUST HOW CRITICAL THEY CAN BE? HOW NEGATIVE THEY CAN BE?

.. FOR SEEING LOVE AS AN EGO?

.. POOR SOUL.

Hey virgoexalted, cool down. This topic is for the good of virgos, and you allowing yourself to burn your hatred on this board shows how weak virgos really are. Ignore the ignorance that the idiots that don't understand try to feed you, and absorb the knowledge from the intellegent...ok?

BigD56, I can handle this pill poper; probably in the middle of recovery; sad really; well look I still think you are sick, and probably should go lay down, or do something remeidial; you some type of adrenaline junkie....getting off on an argument; they do have hotlines for this stuff; but anyway....to pet and stroke someones ego isn't just sacrifice; it if FOOLISH; since you are so rooted in relationships answer me this; do you not think that relationships are about GIVE AND TAKE? TO SACRIFICE IN A RELATIONSHIP, AND BYPASS COMPROMISE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM A PERSON WHOM OBVIOUSLY DESIRES TO BE ALONE...TO SACRIFICE CAN BE UNCESSCARY, BUT TO COMPROMISE IS BENEFICIAL, AND EXPECTANT IN A RELATIONSHIP...AS AN ADULT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!!!! DERRRRR...WHAT IS IT YOU GET OUT OF CONSTANTLY REMINDING SOMEONE OF WHO THEY AARE IF YOU ARE IN A 'MATURE' REALTIONSHIP SACRIFICE IS FOOLISH, AND COMPROMISE IS KEY!!!....Wait this is a trap, you trying to get some feeling outta me— ha ha got me...for a while anyway; you are still generalizing on a whole sign; VIRGOS ARE THIS VIRGOS ARE THAT...SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF TYRANICAL BULL TO ME...FIRST OFF, WHAT IS PRACTICAL ABOUT SULKING??!?!?! WHAT SENSE DOES IT MAKE TO SULK OVER SOMETHING; REALITY DOSEN'T GIVE YOU TIME TO SULK OR STAY DOWN-TRODDEN FOR TOO LONG....You're a water sign, huh— or a Fire sign—? dosen't matter IN REALITY anywayz...I'D ALSO HAVE TO KNOW YOU TO FIND YOUR FAULTS YOU IMBECILE; YOU STILL SPEAK OUT OF EMOTION DON'T YOU...WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK UP IF YOU GOTT IT IN YOU, AND TELL ME WHAT IT IS ABOUT 'ME' YOU DON'T LIKE, BECUASE I CAN GIVE YOU TRUCK FULLS OF SLOP YOU GAVE TO 'ME' I AM NOT A TYPICAL VIRGO, AND YOU ATTACK ME, RATHER THAN LISTENING TO REASON—?? WHAT TYPE OF ADULT ARE YOU??!?!?! I'd figure you'd know that responding out of emotion to be 'childish' so I REALLY THINK THAT SULKING BS IS MORE UP YOUR DAMNED ALLEY, NOW TAKE A GOOD LOOK UP THERE, AND TRY NOT TO TAKE AFFRONT TO THIS.

an known: FOR CHRIST SAKES, STOP GENERALIZING ONE'S BEHAVIORS FOR THE WHOLE DAMNED SIGN!!!!!.

.. EXCUZE ME. THIS IS NOT MY STATEMENT

T ONLY EATS AT YOU!!! PERHAPS YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WILL BE FROZEN IN HELL AFTERALL LOL!!!.

.. YOU ARE LAUGHING AT YOUR OWN MISTAKE. FREEZE IN HELL? DUH?!?! YOU'RE SMART RIGHT?

.. THIS BOARD IS FULL OF CRAP. EVEN IF I GO FROM THE OTHER BOARDS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE IS VENTING. DUH?!?!?!!!!!

an known, I would like for you to click back to page one, at the bottom of the page. You will see your statement. Maybe virgoexalted is right, maybe you really do need some "special attention" from some psychologist...

an known:.. YOU ARE LAUGHING AT YOUR OWN MISTAKE. FREEZE IN HELL? DUH?!?! YOU'RE SMART RIGHT?

You gotta be a drunk! LoL!

.. THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION! TATA!

Dude, the fact of the matter is . . . you take everything too heavily, too seriously.

Ligthen up . . . sometimes, people can be their own worst enemy.

Don't you think?

I'm my own worst enemy and my own best friend 🙂

So being alone can be good and bad depending on my mood, if I'm in my own worst enemy state of mind, I need to be around people to get me to lighten up, if I'm my own best friend, it's fine to be alone, but I'm much more fun to be around in a group.

Either way, I kind of agree with needing space, but I like being around people nevertheless.

I'm a fan of people watching, though I criticize my mother for doing it, I do it too. So even if I'm alone, I like to sit out somewhere in public and just watch people interact, it's interesting. As far as people watching goes, my mother is the best to sit with and watch people with, because she's an expert, and I have fun criticizing her and telling her to stop, because she verbalizes every detail she notices, whereas I sit and silently take it all in. Anyways, I digress...

People can be their own worst enemy, and sometimes Virgos need their space, but then again, sometimes people regardless of their sign need space.

Doesn't "an known" sound just like "chi"? ALL CAPS, nasty temperament & hates virgos.

Back to the original post of this thread..... Yes, I agree about the freedom. That's why I'm a Libertarian and love freedom in all forms.

I agree with you Virgopmoon . . everybody needs space, sometimes. I know, I require a lot of space for reflection and fantasy.

My Virgo man needs a lot of space, too. But, his is mostly for worrying and fretting. It would seem illogical to think that ONLY Virgo's need freedom and independence. Mine doesn't require a lot of freedom, rather, he likes being dependant on me more.

Still, you beat around my question; do you fear my intellect? ha, I didn't even need emotions to DETERMINE THAT!! LOL!!. you are an adult correct an known; then why is it you feel you can adequately sum up a personality based on stereotypes, and conventions— As an ADULT why do you lack an INDEPENDENT THOUGHT PROCESS—?? You've in reality have only tyraided about nothing; I GUESS WE ARE THE SMARTS OF THE ZODIAC; I KNOW HOW DUMB IT IS AS A TEEN NOT TO JUST TYRAID AROUND ON A FEELING. First off, I have not vented on anyone who didn't vent on me; but I have told YOU before; There are other boards MEANT FOR VENTING!!! THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM!! *I repeat* THIS BOARD IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!!..Jeez, for an adult you seem pretty childish....you actually came TO THIS BOARD LOOKING FOR A FIGHT...BUT I SUPPOSE SOMEONE OF YOUR SIGN, LACKING OF OBVIOUS INTELLECT MUST MAKE YOU FEEL INFERIOR, AND EMOTIONAL...Tell me now, is you mind slowing down on you? Too many words that are based off of SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST FEELING.....CALLED INTELLECT!?!?!?! Jeez...WHO ARE YOU?.

You can show passion, I'll give you that.... but lack reasoning; foolish; ANY ANIMAL CAN BEHAVE PASSIONATELY....You have stormed only to realize that it has gotten you NOWHERE but in a further funk; well, YOU SEEM TO BE IN A FUNK TO COME TO MY BOARD, AND START TYRAIDING, AND YELLING TO THIS VIRGO; WHAT SIGN ARE YOU ANYWAY—....

P-Angel, 'member when we had our FIRST ARGUMENT—.....
*Looks, dreamily to the moon, and sighs, in utter amor*

Dyr,

The dependency I was talking about was with his freedom to be able to do whatever he wants and think what he wants.

He needs a lot of space, like I said, for hashing things out . . well, you know, you're a Virgo . . he has compartmentalize a lot of stuff.

But, when it comes to going places, or talking on the phone in private, or anything that means he has to do it alone . . he'd rather be with me. He doesn't leave the house to go anywhere unless I'm with him, except work. He wants me in the room when he's on the phone . . he just doesn't need the freedoms that a lot of other people need or want to be alone, or to do their own thing.

He had no, "his own thing". He has an, "us thing", so he's considers his freedomship partnered. That probably only makes sense in my own head. But, that's how he sees it and that's how he likes to live.

He just doesn't WANT to take any liberties outside of our relationship. His friends learn a long time ago, not to even call him and ask him to go anywhere, or do anything because he won't, not unless I go, too.

Even in conversations with other people, he won't do unless I'm standing with him. Of course, he has to talk at work, but, anywhere else, he pretty much remains to himself and will only open and talkative when I'm there. Plus, his thoughts . . we pretty much share all our thoughts and ideas and worries. He has his own thoughts, of course, but, once he decides something, or a thought pops in his head . . he calls me and we discuss it. He calls me all day long, to talk to me about something he was thinking.

So, all around . . he just doesn't need the freedoms of other Virgo's, I guess.

>If I don't have the freedom to come or go, to relate, and understand; I hate life.

I can relate VE. I too, like to wander about sometimes... visit friends I haven't seen in awhile. I also like to pop in on some and supprise them, knowing that if they're busy, I'll make it short and catch them later. Certain friends I know need a call before hand and I'll do that too.

I need my time alone, same as you, to reflect on my life and my thoughts. It's the only way I can sort things out. I have difficulty unless I can examine some problem alone to find a solution.

>I like to maintain a sense of self-reliance, and independence becuase of this.

Indeed

>I have a tendacy to need time, and LOTS OF IT TO MYSELF

Hmms... I've been pretty much a loner all my life with few friends. I've wondered if it was because of some traumatic things that happened in my childhood, but maybe it's just a Virgo trait?

>I CAN'T BE AROUND PEOPLE FOR TOO LONG,

How long is too long? I love hanging out with friends, be it for a few hours, or a dozen or more... but then, yes, I need to have some alone time.

>But, when it comes to going places, or talking on the phone in private, or anything that means he has to do it alone . . he'd rather be with me. He doesn't leave the house to go anywhere unless I'm with him, except work.

I can relate. But I've done that more out of a sense of fairness to my partner. We went mostly everywhere together. If I was going to visit a buddy, I'd invite her along... but if she didn't want to go, it was always cool with me. I could have gone everywhere without her with no problem... but never wanted to hurt her feelings by excluding her.

So we pretty much went everywhere together. That changed when I became involved with horses. She had zero interest in horses so when going to visit friends who had horses, she never came along. And eventually, all my friends were horse people.

Hmms... Virgoex and Branh... same person? Or maybe just in that same catagory as the OTHER Virgos? LOL.

I know with my husband, because of his job, he uses the long hours everyday to do his heavy thinking. There were a few times when he didn't drive and would try a regular job, then I could see where he needed more alone time, privately.

He just spends so much time away from home, usually 12 - 15 hours a day he's sitting by himself in his rig . . so, time to think isn't something he feels he needs to take when he does come home because sleep is precious to a truck driver, so our time to share is limited.

Maybe, he would view his freedom and space differently, then.

who knows Ferghus.... but as I said, I am me, and ONLY ME; no substitutes, and no preservatives; I AM 100% ORGANIC ME!!!..

Ferghus,

>I can relate. But I've done that more out of a sense of fairness to my partner. We went mostly everywhere together. If I was going to visit a buddy, I'd invite her along... but if she didn't want to go, it was always cool with me. I could have gone everywhere without her with no problem... but never wanted to hurt her feelings by excluding her.

The difference though, is that you did this out of a sense of being fair and would ask her along and if she said no, then, you'd go without her. With my husband, he doesn't WANT to go without me, or, our son. He's very family oriented and it makes him happy and content in his life when he's with me and our son (now, grandchildren, too). There are times when I would talk to him on the phone and ask him what he wanted to do that night and he would say he couldn't wait to get home and sit with his grandson on his lap watching TV. Obligation and worrying about hurting my feelings never cross his mind. WE do everything with each other because we are so deeply connected. And, second, he knows he can't hurt my feelings. Nothing he could do or say would hurt my feelings. If he wanted to go somewhere, he would tell me and I'd go put my shoes on and we would go. If I didn't want to go, then he won't go . . because he wants to, not because he feels like he should be fair. It's hard to explain, it's just how we are together. The same goes the other way, I don't go anywhere without him, either, because I WANT him to be with me.

Dyr, I guess it is the long hours away from home, is why he doesn't need much freedom at home. He does use his time in the rig wisely though . . he frets. He's the biggest worry-wort I've ever seen, even stuff that I blow off as unimportant. He can't help it though, I mean, if he didn't, who would? Me? Not hardly, I worry about nothing. So, maybe if I took on more stuff, he'd get some mind-peace.