I have been having a ldr with a virgo man and we have gone through many ups and downs but always seem to end up where we started. Any insight from you virgos would be appreciated.
Why do virgo men stick around?
I used to stick around, naively, believing the person I was sticking around with would wise up and RECIPROCATE, as good brother 25thDecan would put it, but that rarely happens and then they get the axe.
Because he likes what you give him 😉 😄
HAHAHA, every time, you all ways catch me off guard man. Go 25thdecan! 😄
Posted by Cajunspirit
I used to stick around, naively, believing the person I was sticking around with would wise up and RECIPROCATE ...
reciprocate what?
This sounds passive/aggressive to me ... a person can only reciprocate because you have communicated to this person, and not because of a something wise that came to them.
How does just coming to the know of something, which would implicate YOU DID NOT do anything to convey this information make a person wise?
What is naive, my dear little Virgos ... is in believing that the other should just know.
Your mouth is good for something other than bitching about something .... it also works quite nicely for actually communicating WITH your partner and not just being fussy over what they didn't do, eventhough you never told them that.
The reason why they stick around is because if a person tolerates their huge aggressive/passiveness and doesn't leave them .. then they stay because they know the chances of finding someone to do that is not easy.
Your mouth is good for something other than bitching about something .... it also works quite nicely for actually communicating WITH your partner and not just being fussy over what they didn't do, eventhough you never told them that.
The reason why they stick around is because if a person tolerates their huge aggressive/passiveness and doesn't leave them .. then they stay because they know the chances of finding someone to do that is not easy.
@Mr25thDecan:thanks for the detailed explanation about reciprocity.
"Must I initiate everything? Calls? Texts?"
i'm a little puzzled,because i read on this board that virgo people initiate contact only if they really like the person and are interested in him/her .Going out from their way shows the importance of the partner for the virgo.And perhaps if the other party doesn't see initiation from the virgo,it's a sign that he/she is not wanted? I may be wrong on this,so feeel free to correct me.
"Must I initiate everything? Calls? Texts?"
i'm a little puzzled,because i read on this board that virgo people initiate contact only if they really like the person and are interested in him/her .Going out from their way shows the importance of the partner for the virgo.And perhaps if the other party doesn't see initiation from the virgo,it's a sign that he/she is not wanted? I may be wrong on this,so feeel free to correct me.
Posted by 25thDecanPosted by ellessque
please explain the whole concept of reciprocate in your own words.
a few sentences would be suffice.
I'd rather give you examples...in the vernacular we so often use.....
1. Do unto me as you would have done unto you. I am honest and straightforward with a woman. I will let her know a) that I like her and b) want to see her again. If I get no response...this is unreciprocal....DELETED. Why not be honest with me where you see us at the moment? ESPECIALLY if the feeling is mutual. Hiding how you feel only leads me to guess...when I could use my time wisely and find someone who IS upfront and honest and doesn't use "shy" or "reserved" as an excuse.
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This I tries to explain in another thread..women are told that they should let the man chase you. Don't text him first, wait until he calls you, let him pay for everything, etc, etc. So I think in the beginning of a relationship, you will see this because women think this is what men want...to do all the chasing..if she shows affection, calls you first, etc, you then will drop her because she is not a challenge...does this make sense?
Posted by 25thDecanPosted by ellessque
please explain the whole concept of reciprocate in your own words.
a few sentences would be suffice.
I'd rather give you examples...in the vernacular we so often use.....
3. Reciprocation of respect: IDGAF how old you are. I will speak to you with respect and you will do so to me in kind. Or I will speak to you as if you are the lowest piece of low scummy scum I've ever seen and the less you do in kind the MORE I will ramp up what I say to you because you are a worthless piece of shat. I cannot count how many women I've casually dated and quickly and angrily deleted because her MOUTH has the tendency to raise it's volume over a small tiff. Don't do it. You're better off being calm and rational with me. I will do the same for you. You like me? Act like it. Don't act like you're indecisive and abusive. Indecisive can be natural. Abusive is completely incompatible.
by such a deceitful person who would romantically date me while not feeling romanticclick to expand
Now this part is absolutely right..I do see woman berating men in public all the time...the guy always takes it though...not sure why that is. Respect between a man and a woman is of utmost importance,
Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
HAHAHA, every time, you all ways catch me off guard man. Go 25thdecan! 😄
Doesn't he though? I have a huge crush on him...lol
Posted by 25thDecanPosted by ellessque
please explain the whole concept of reciprocate in your own words.
a few sentences would be suffice.
4. Reciprocation of affection: I'm actually affectionate with a lover/gf. I crave that because I've only had it to be ONESIDED. Either she was always in a funky mood or she expected me to notice when she wasn't...which was rare and therefore I don't want to effing touch YOU because YOURE CRAZY. Now though...if I am affectionate with you and you are not with me...standoffish, you pull back in public...you are DELETED. You are unreciprocal. I don't do it for you. I don't want my time wasted by such a deceitful person who would romantically date me while not feeling romanticclick to expand
Nothing is better then my guy holding my hand, or me taking his arm as we walk into a room together. This does not mean I will be making out and groping him all over the place. Just small gestures to let him and other women know he is mine. Some girls though, do not like any kind of public affection. They don't even smile.
"Look at the women who told you that....and how far it got them....and if it got them a man...what kind of man was he? Was he even invested in the relationship? Were they happy? Or was she running shyt? And giving him a remote control while telling people she had it all?"
I meant in general, media, magazines, things women read...young women believe this stuff is what I am trying to say.
I meant in general, media, magazines, things women read...young women believe this stuff is what I am trying to say.
@MR25thDecan: i made a confusion again,sorry.
didn't read it from you and you're right to question my statement,because it sounds generalizing.Well, there's a hope for me,if the virgo is a 3-rd decan🙂/it sounds too good to be true,so you're right:no compatible/
In no case i set a template,it was an opinion i met.i'll keep in mind to be more exact.
You're very cute on your profile picture.And since you're not Dominican,can i suggest something🙂?
Ingredients for Aliz?:salsa and sand
1 part Aliz? Bleu
1 ?_ parts pineapple juice
Splash of club soda
Blend ingredients and serve over ice in a highball glass.
Garnish with a lime wedge.
Instructions
Aliz? Bleu
pineapple juice
Shake equal parts of ingredients with ice, strain and serve in a shot glass.
didn't read it from you and you're right to question my statement,because it sounds generalizing.Well, there's a hope for me,if the virgo is a 3-rd decan🙂/it sounds too good to be true,so you're right:no compatible/
In no case i set a template,it was an opinion i met.i'll keep in mind to be more exact.
You're very cute on your profile picture.And since you're not Dominican,can i suggest something🙂?
Ingredients for Aliz?:salsa and sand
1 part Aliz? Bleu
1 ?_ parts pineapple juice
Splash of club soda
Blend ingredients and serve over ice in a highball glass.
Garnish with a lime wedge.
Instructions
Aliz? Bleu
pineapple juice
Shake equal parts of ingredients with ice, strain and serve in a shot glass.
@Mr25thDecan: "there's hope for you even if the guy's a scorpion with all libra placements...."
i think this will be another "Survival" reality show🙂.You see why virgos not stick around me? 2options for them only:to be drawned or burned🙂/i'm joking/....it will not be bad for me if i can be kept on tierra firma
Ascendant Aries
Sun Cancer
Moon Leo
Mercury Leo
Venus Leo
Mars Aries
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Gemini
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc node Capricorn
i think this will be another "Survival" reality show🙂.You see why virgos not stick around me? 2options for them only:to be drawned or burned🙂/i'm joking/....it will not be bad for me if i can be kept on tierra firma
Ascendant Aries
Sun Cancer
Moon Leo
Mercury Leo
Venus Leo
Mars Aries
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Gemini
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc node Capricorn
Posted by P-Angel
reciprocate what?
This sounds passive/aggressive to me ... a person can only reciprocate because you have communicated to this person, and not because of a something wise that came to them.
How does just coming to the know of something, which would implicate YOU DID NOT do anything to convey this information make a person wise?
I do communicate and I do convey this information upfront. It just often falls out of the norms people have grown accustomed to with others.
Posted by ellessque
I just have come to see how open you guys can be and it concerns me (my son is a virgo too). A lot of people can take advantage of that. I don't think you are naive in any way...maybe just a bit too trusting because you know that you would never take advantage of those details if shared with you.
...or maybe it's just my paranoid scorp nature 😛
We're naive, remember?
Besides, people using these things against us early on, helps us cull them just as early as they do it 🙂
Posted by ellessque
please explain the whole concept of reciprocate in your own words.
a few sentences would be suffice.
Reciprocation is the ability to identify the effort someone is putting towards you and the ability to, at the very least, acknowledge and try to give back in like.
The desire to reciprocate is unquestionably, one of the best traits a woman can have with this Virgo.
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