
Grumpycamper
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Posted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxesclick to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.click to expand

Posted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shitclick to expand

Posted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
The guy below you is right. I think you fail to realize how much in tax everyone pays.
If that were the case the streets would be made with gold & police would have million dollar salariesclick to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.click to expand

Posted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxesclick to expand

Posted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
But it's not free... you're paying the highest taxes in the world, you just said so yourself.click to expand

Posted by LittleStar
Taxes help society at large which does eventually come back to you. I don’t mind paying. It sucks but I view it as helping society at large.
Now I have lots of opinions about how those dollars get spent by the government because I think it should focus on the social benefit of the people rather than war and lining rich peoples pockets for special interest groups.

Posted by LittleStar
Taxes help society at large which does eventually come back to you. I don’t mind paying. It sucks but I view it as helping society at large.
Now I have lots of opinions about how those dollars get spent by the government because I think it should focus on the social benefit of the people rather than war and lining rich peoples pockets for special interest groups.

Posted by PhangusPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
But it's not free... you're paying the highest taxes in the world, you just said so yourself.
yes, but my contribution in tax is no where near how much i would have to pay if we all didn't put in.
people go bankrupt in the us because they fall ill. no one ever goes bankrupt from paying tax.
What are you some kind of communist? Get out there and build your own damn roads, missy!click to expand


Posted by PhangusPosted by MrsElleCappysnatch
It's okay.....we have amazing new uniforms for our space force.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/why-do-we-need-camo-in-space-trumps-space-force-ridiculed-for-woodland-camouflage-uniforms/?fbclid=IwAR0f6sA97MetXCFtBjznQcT7noMPwiXusoF0RBWKlE5F7Sz8FqPy1j4pToE
Hahahaha! The aliens won't be able to find them among the moon forests!click to expand

Posted by PhangusPosted by idontlikeyouPosted by PhangusPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
But it's not free... you're paying the highest taxes in the world, you just said so yourself.
yes, but my contribution in tax is no where near how much i would have to pay if we all didn't put in.
people go bankrupt in the us because they fall ill. no one ever goes bankrupt from paying tax.
What are you some kind of communist? Get out there and build your own damn roads, missy!
It took these idiots up here from when I moved here at 16 to now 36 years old to add one extra lane on the freeway in both directions maybe 3 miles. That's 20 years, tell me what the fuck is wrong with this picture.
Are you in the northeast? There have been some massive boondoggles there. There's waste and corruption in any system, and more in ours in some places than others. The public has to continually keep an eye on that. It's still cheaper and more feasible than trying to build your own roads. If you let corporations take over, every road would be one mass ad, and everything would be geared toward maximum profit for whatever corporation paid for something, not safety, not preservation of the land, not purity of the air or water or food supply. Is that what people would prefer?click to expand

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
It's okay.....we have amazing new uniforms for our space force.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/why-do-we-need-camo-in-space-trumps-space-force-ridiculed-for-woodland-camouflage-uniforms/?fbclid=IwAR0f6sA97MetXCFtBjznQcT7noMPwiXusoF0RBWKlE5F7Sz8FqPy1j4pToE


Posted by PhangusPosted by 777Posted by PhangusPosted by idontlikeyouPosted by PhangusPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
But it's not free... you're paying the highest taxes in the world, you just said so yourself.
yes, but my contribution in tax is no where near how much i would have to pay if we all didn't put in.
people go bankrupt in the us because they fall ill. no one ever goes bankrupt from paying tax.
What are you some kind of communist? Get out there and build your own damn roads, missy!
It took these idiots up here from when I moved here at 16 to now 36 years old to add one extra lane on the freeway in both directions maybe 3 miles. That's 20 years, tell me what the fuck is wrong with this picture.
Are you in the northeast? There have been some massive boondoggles there. There's waste and corruption in any system, and more in ours in some places than others. The public has to continually keep an eye on that. It's still cheaper and more feasible than trying to build your own roads. If you let corporations take over, every road would be one mass ad, and everything would be geared toward maximum profit for whatever corporation paid for something, not safety, not preservation of the land, not purity of the air or water or food supply. Is that what people would prefer?
Who do you think the government contracts?
Businesses, most corporate, some small or medium, some HBUs. That depends on the laws in the state and city. The more strict those laws, the fewer corporations are generally involved. That requires city, county, state, and federal employees to manage and oversee the contracts. We also have agencies at all levels that oversee corporations to check that they follow the law on everything from how money is spent to safety. These are called "regulations" and are considered a dirty word by many Republicans because they quite intentionally prevent corporations from doing whatever they want.click to expand


Posted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxesclick to expand

Posted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxes
I've read/seen/heard people complaining how unconstitutional the concept of taxes is, with some going as far as suggesting it is a part of communist ideologies (which is a whole other subject unto itself) .....
With the above in mind, putting mismanagement of funds/ funneling of exorbitant sums into questionable branches (i.e. military) aside, how or what do you propose in its stead? I am genuinely curious?
It seems people just like to bitch about everything under the sun without proposing actionable solutions.click to expand

Posted by RaeReinhartz
Well don't vote for liberal policies like increasing the minimum wage or voting for free transit. If you're taxes are high you obviously live in a blue state.

Posted by 777Posted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxes
I've read/seen/heard people complaining how unconstitutional the concept of taxes is, with some going as far as suggesting it is a part of communist ideologies (which is a whole other subject unto itself) .....
With the above in mind, putting mismanagement of funds/ funneling of exorbitant sums into questionable branches (i.e. military) aside, how or what do you propose in its stead? I am genuinely curious?
It seems people just like to bitch about everything under the sun without proposing actionable solutions.
How can u put one of the largest portions of spending to the side when it's all incorporated. It seems people just like to just take it up the ass in silenceclick to expand

Posted by MesquitePosted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxes
I've read/seen/heard people complaining how unconstitutional the concept of taxes is, with some going as far as suggesting it is a part of communist ideologies (which is a whole other subject unto itself) .....
With the above in mind, putting mismanagement of funds/ funneling of exorbitant sums into questionable branches (i.e. military) aside, how or what do you propose in its stead? I am genuinely curious?
It seems people just like to bitch about everything under the sun without proposing actionable solutions.
How can u put one of the largest portions of spending to the side when it's all incorporated. It seems people just like to just take it up the ass in silence
You either intentionally misunderstood or diverted my inquiry? I asked what I asked for a simple reason, not for you to jump to assumptions as to what my view is on taxes and how they are being allocated.
Initial question still stands... what do/ would you propose in its stated?
It's simple really. He and a couple of others would prefer the funds go straight back into his wallet.click to expand

Posted by MesquitePosted by ArgusPosted by MesquitePosted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by ArgusPosted by 777Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Has Gov mismanagement of funds ever crossed ur mind? I dont believe any society should be spending one third of income on taxes
I've read/seen/heard people complaining how unconstitutional the concept of taxes is, with some going as far as suggesting it is a part of communist ideologies (which is a whole other subject unto itself) .....
With the above in mind, putting mismanagement of funds/ funneling of exorbitant sums into questionable branches (i.e. military) aside, how or what do you propose in its stead? I am genuinely curious?
It seems people just like to bitch about everything under the sun without proposing actionable solutions.
How can u put one of the largest portions of spending to the side when it's all incorporated. It seems people just like to just take it up the ass in silence
You either intentionally misunderstood or diverted my inquiry? I asked what I asked for a simple reason, not for you to jump to assumptions as to what my view is on taxes and how they are being allocated.
Initial question still stands... what do/ would you propose in its stated?
It's simple really. He and a couple of others would prefer the funds go straight back into his wallet.
Weelll....if I were entirely candid, I wouldn't mind keeping my entire salary earthier (😛) but that begs the question.... what is the alternative if we wish to keep all those elements that are funded by taxes!?
Really... I'm not asking a difficult question AT ALL!? 😄
There really isn't a viable alternative for a country as large and as populated as ours.
Nah.click to expand

Posted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year

Posted by Arielle83Posted by jeanePosted by idontlikeyouPosted by jeanePosted by 777Posted by jeane
where do you live?
Nice place with shitty taxes
my point is depending on where you live, your taxes are paying for something - the roads you use, the health service or the fire department or keeping the streets clean or the police that protects you.
this is stuff you are paying for. you are not working for free, you are working to pay for those things that make your life easier.
That's a crock of shit
i think that's the exactly the difference between a us mentality (i'm guessing here, forgive me if i'm wrong) and a european or (even canadian) mentality.
the us is everyone is in it for themselves.
the others are about creating a society where everyone has a relatively equal standard of living - access to education, medicines, services. this takes taxation. europe has some of the highest taxes in the world but also the highest living standards. i don't care that i have to pay tax if it means i can go to hospital for free.
Ya Canada is socialism.
I paid way more tax in Canada than I do in Australia.click to expand

Posted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year

Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year
Stop whinging and do something about it.click to expand

Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year
Stop whinging and do something about it.
It's not a one man job buddy
What do you mean?
Learning how to deduct is.
Stop blaming everyone else cos you don't know how to work the system..click to expand

Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year
Stop whinging and do something about it.
It's not a one man job buddy
What do you mean?
Learning how to deduct is.
Stop blaming everyone else cos you don't know how to work the system..
I dont play games, especially not with people's livelihood
No, what i am suggesting is:
claim a portion of your rent
claim a portion, it not all of your mobile phone and data use
There's other things.
Get my drift?click to expand

Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777Posted by mars_in_cappyPosted by 777
My tax rate is basically 1/3 of my income.......
1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year
Stop whinging and do something about it.
It's not a one man job buddy
What do you mean?
Learning how to deduct is.
Stop blaming everyone else cos you don't know how to work the system..
I dont play games, especially not with people's livelihood
No, what i am suggesting is:
claim a portion of your rent
claim a portion, it not all of your mobile phone and data use
There's other things.
Get my drift?
Ur drift is nothing new to me. We are just on opposite sides of a spectrum
Not sure why i wasted my time.
Keep getting taxed at 30% , makes no difference to me.click to expand

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1/10 sounds like a better distribution
Basically I'm working for free 4 months out of the year