Taurus man says he is attracted to me but only wants to be friends. Confused

Hi all,

I was seeing a Taurus man for about a month and a half. We started it off just by talking on the phone because we were trying to stick to the quarantine thing. When we first started talking, he right away started pouring the compliments on me and taking a real interest in me (lots of questions about my life, etc.) Then, all of a sudden, he started taking a really long time getting back to me, for no apparent reason. For example, he would ask me a question via text, I would answer it and ask him a question back and then...crickets. The next day, he would reply to the question without saying anything about how long it took him to get back to me. I was understanding at first, and just let it slide..but then it became a daily pattern..so our conversations became really broken and stale because the communication was dwindling. One day, I got tired of the weird broken communication so I told him let's stop talking because my communication needs are different and I am not seeing this going further. That's when he woke up, apologized and started talking to me like before.

From that point, things got hot and heavy. Lots of flirting, lots of compliments, lots of verbal affection. One night he asked me how long I take to sleep with a guy and I told him it takes me a while. I told him that I don't sleep with someone until we are exclusive because I don't like having multiple partners. He said he respects that and that he's not just looking for sex. We eventually started seeing each other in person. We got drunk one night, made out for hours (until early morning) and talked about life and really bonded. I could tell he really liked me, kissing every part of my body (no sex because I did not want to), and telling me he felt an instant connection with me (so did I) and that he cared about me a lot. Then, out of nowhere, he started an argument with me about my social media account. He said he didn't like the male attention I got on there (even though they are just innocent compliments and I don't flirt with anyone online). He kept interrogating me about it and said he thought I was hiding something... which left me confused..I honestly have no idea what he's talking about, but I decided to look the other way and blamed it on him being drunk.

After that night, he wanted to see me constantly. But after we started making plans again, he kept breaking them. He would be the one to initiate plans (never me) and then he would also be the one to cancel on me last minute saying he was tired or had a headache. This happened several times. Then his birthday happened. Everything was fine (on his birthday) and we were just texting back and forth flirting and I was wishing him a good time with his family... then out of nowhere, he started this argument with me again about my social media account... this time, I got annoyed and it turned into a full blown argument. I feel like the argument ruined his birthday, and then he flipped the script on me and decided he only wanted to be friends. He told me that he cares about me a lot, he is really attracted to me, and he thinks I am funny and a good person BUT he doesn't want a relationship right now. He also said that he does not want to hurt me, so he does not want us to have sex , but he still wants to hang out as friends only. Then he said, that he can sense I want more than friendship (which he is right about) and because of this, he understands if I move on and date someone else. I tried apologizing and making amends, because the whole thing was dumb to begin with (even though it was started by him).. but I felt that the more I tried to apologize and tell him how much I cared for him..the more he resisted.. until he started to make me feel desperate (because of how much I was trying), so I backed off.

At first, I agreed with his "let's be friends" suggestion because I did not want to have sex either. I wanted to wait. So I thought to myself, this really shouldn't change much between us anyway since this whole thing was still fresh, and it's ok to take things slow.... but I was wrong. This changed everything. He stopped complimenting me, he stopped being romantic, and he started speaking to me in a platonic manner. He did not cancel our Saturday night plans however. But when he came over to my place, he was acting weird and different. The evening was painfully uncomfortable. At on point, he started looking at me with his bedroom eyes and complimenting me.. we both smiled at each other..and that's when he abruptly said he had to leave. In that moment.. I got so chocked up and upset. It's one thing if we started out as friends, but it's another thing to go back to being platonic after being so passionate with each other.. I just couldn't do it.

So before he left, I decided to bring up the argument we had. I tried to talk to him in a mature clam manner, but he got angry upset and closed off. He said he simply did not want a relationship and to stop pushing the issue.. I told him I just wanted to talk about the argument and I wasn't pushing anything.. then he said that our argument about my social media account has nothing to do with why he doesn't want a relationship. He just wants to be single and date multiple women and I have to respect his decision and that it had nothing to do with my social media or our argument about it. Then he started getting angry and getting dressed to leave. I had tears in my eyes, but I held it all back and walked him to the door. He saw I was hurt and he gave me a long hug and kiss on the forehead. Then he tried to be playful and tickle my stomach but I wasn't having it, I just said good night and slammed the door. I sat there all night, with a ball in my throat, thinking how terrible of a night this was.. Then I texted him saying I can't do this "friend" thing and wished him the best. It has been 2 days and he never replied.. yet he has been watching me on social media (I see him show up in the people who view my videos).

Here is why he's a hypocrite:

1- During the entire time we were seeing each other, he was talking to other women which he admitted (and that's fine we are not exclusive but then don't argue with me about my social media)

2- A lot of the women he was talking to also have social media accounts with lots of male attention - it doesn't bother him with them, but it did with me?

3- He demands honesty but I felt like he wasn't being honest with me about his own thoughts and feelings

Can someone please make sense of all this? I am ready to let him go.... but I want to understand what happened and why he is treating me this way.

Posted by sagaciouscorp

He’s jealous n he doesn’t like that you bring that up for him n sees it as a sign of incompatibility so he’s cutting it off. They are wierd creature

U didn’t bend to his social media so from this on he sees it as not going to work.

But u shouldn’t so he’s right ur not coMpatible with a myway or highway

Can I ask.. what do you mean by "I didn't bend to his social media" ? He is still talking to other women, which he admitted to me, because we are too early to be exclusive. I don't do anything wrong on social media, other then my account is open and not private so a lot of guys comment and like my pics. I told him down the road, if we become more serious, I would restrict my account more, and he said "he is not telling me what to do."

Also, why would he still want to hang out with me as "friends only"?

And if he "still cares about me" like he says he does.. why did he not even reply to my message saying I can't do the friend thing. I thought he would at least say "I understand, and sorry it's not working" or something. But instead I got silence.

Take him at his word. He doesnt want anything, so dont give him anything.

Stand your ground.

Fight for what you want.

Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

Posted by DMV

Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

Posted by mrfish23

I read the entire paragraph (even though I didn't wanted to cuz it looked way too long at first) and I'm going to sum it up in short pointers for you.

1. You said he was talking to other girls while also talking with you

2. He says he "wants to be single and date multiple women"

3."One night he asked me how long I take to sleep with a guy" He asked you this question after you showed your interest in him after the 1st stale phase

I think these 3 points are enough for you to understand that: He was only looking for easy sex, didn't got it, instead he got a woman who was falling crazily for him and he NEVER wanted anything serious in the first place from you. Therefore he decided to run away real fast once things got heavy.

Ok thanks for the eye opener.

By the way, I'm new to this site.. is there a way to edit my original post and make it shorter?

About what you said, thanks for summing it up. Where does the argument about my social media fit in to all this? Why does he even care about that, if he was only being casual.

Posted by MareInfame

He is mad at you because you bring out emotions out of him that he does not want to see nor confront.

He prefers to be with a girl that doesn’t bring that out in him.... where he likes her, but doesn’t feel so passionately about her. This is his best way of functioning, where he can be his boring self and not have to be in high alert all the time. (Like at the beginning where he didn’t really respond to any of your texts. That is the real, normal him. Being energetic, responsive and expressive was depleting his energy - he cannot sustain that long term. If you want that long term, get yourself a water or fire sun sign).

With you, he gets too jealous, too vigilant, too possessive, too anxious, too passionate and he would rather feel less to none at all.... but he cannot feel less with you. The closer he gets to you, the MORE he feels.... and he HATES THAT - because the world of emotions is a weakness to him (whereas for you, it is home/comfort zone and a strength)

It also sounds like he believes in one-sided relationships only. Where he sets all the rigid rules and where rules only apply to you and not to him. If you dare apply HIS rules to him, he will become furious and start attacking you on how you are too pushy, controlling and over-bearing.... there, he hates your persistence.

I think you did the right thing in cutting ties with him... IMO, he only had his own interest at heart and had no clue as to how to be understanding toward you or how to be fair in a relationship. For heavens sake, he didn’t even have the courage or maturity to have a conversation with you, he was running away as soon as he would have to be questioned about anything. He is unwilling to discuss things out and hear your side of the story.

My heart goes out to you, I’ve been in your shoes and shed similar tears. It’s a clusterfuck of mind games and he would rather hurt you than deal with the truth of what he feels. That really hurts on the receiving end.

He knows what you feel and he feels the same for you... but he masks what he feels and won’t allow himself to feel so much, so he retaliates by being an ass hole to you.

You might never fully understand what he did... you did your best and gave it your all to have a healthy, honest relationship and communication. But he doesn’t like honest nor healthy. He likes to be stuck on comfort where his feelings are not out of control. He doesn’t want to see them nor deal with them (he is passive Venusian) and in order to maintain that comfort, he will resort to any means possible (more games).

He will pick a partner that doesn’t see his games, doesn’t confront his unfair behavior, doesn’t shed light on any given situation. He wants it his way and his way ONLY.

Thank you so much for this. I felt this to be truth .. but then I though maybe I was convincing myself to believe it. Nice to see someone else having the same opinion. Makes me feel a little less crazy.

I guess there is nothing more I can do here? Should I unfollow him on social media too? I feel bad burning the bridge to that extent, but I hate seeing his name pop up on "people who viewed your video" and wondering why he's still watching me.

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Posted by mrfish23

I read the entire paragraph (even though I didn't wanted to cuz it looked way too long at first) and I'm going to sum it up in short pointers for you.

1. You said he was talking to other girls while also talking with you

2. He says he "wants to be single and date multiple women"

3."One night he asked me how long I take to sleep with a guy" He asked you this question after you showed your interest in him after the 1st stale phase

I think these 3 points are enough for you to understand that: He was only looking for easy sex, didn't got it, instead he got a woman who was falling crazily for him and he NEVER wanted anything serious in the first place from you. Therefore he decided to run away real fast once things got heavy.

Ok thanks for the eye opener.

By the way, I'm new to this site.. is there a way to edit my original post and make it shorter?

About what you said, thanks for summing it up. Where does the argument about my social media fit in to all this? Why does he even care about that, if he was only being casual.

You're welcome. I'll also advice not to worry or regret about this guy too much.

You can click on "details" besides the "like" button and can edit the original post from thereon.

Classic Taurus behaviour. They want to own and control people whereas they won't listen to ONE thing you say to them. It's not a surprise that most of the physical abusers in relationships turn out to be Taurus is it? *Cough Amber Heard* *cough Hitler with Eva Braun*

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Ok thanks. I actually had no idea Taurus men were like this.. my 2 best friends are Taurus (females) and they are both married and seemingly normal. I never dated a Taurus before but I thought, since I get a long with them so well, we would be a match made in heaven.

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Posted by DMV

Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

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We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

You're too much work for him. He's not ready to grow up and mature.

His insecurities will get the best of him and it'll all be at your expense. Be happy for dodging this bullet. I see red flags everywhere.

Leave him right where he's at. It's safer for your heart that way.

Tell him you can’t be friends with someone who gets jealous over sm compliments.

i have a slightly different reading. he doesn't trust you. that's not to say you are untrustworthy. more an issue on his part than anything else but i suspect he worries that you are eventually going to take off with one of your admirers and figures it's not worth the risk.

he certainly has feelings, is attracted, wants to do the right thing (ie so let's just be friends) but it's that conflict between playing it safe but also wanting something to happen between you.

Posted by ScorpV1_

Hi all,

I was seeing a Taurus man for about a month and a half. We started it off just by talking on the phone because we were trying to stick to the quarantine thing. When we first started talking, he right away started pouring the compliments on me and taking a real interest in me (lots of questions about my life, etc.) Then, all of a sudden, he started taking a really long time getting back to me, for no apparent reason. For example, he would ask me a question via text, I would answer it and ask him a question back and then...crickets. The next day, he would reply to the question without saying anything about how long it took him to get back to me. I was understanding at first, and just let it slide..but then it became a daily pattern..so our conversations became really broken and stale because the communication was dwindling. One day, I got tired of the weird broken communication so I told him let's stop talking because my communication needs are different and I am not seeing this going further. That's when he woke up, apologized and started talking to me like before.

From that point, things got hot and heavy. Lots of flirting, lots of compliments, lots of verbal affection. One night he asked me how long I take to sleep with a guy and I told him it takes me a while. I told him that I don't sleep with someone until we are exclusive because I don't like having multiple partners. He said he respects that and that he's not just looking for sex. We eventually started seeing each other in person. We got drunk one night, made out for hours (until early morning) and talked about life and really bonded. I could tell he really liked me, kissing every part of my body (no sex because I did not want to), and telling me he felt an instant connection with me (so did I) and that he cared about me a lot. Then, out of nowhere, he started an argument with me about my social media account. He said he didn't like the male attention I got on there (even though they are just innocent compliments and I don't flirt with anyone online). He kept interrogating me about it and said he thought I was hiding something... which left me confused..I honestly have no idea what he's talking about, but I decided to look the other way and blamed it on him being drunk.

After that night, he wanted to see me constantly. But after we started making plans again, he kept breaking them. He would be the one to initiate plans (never me) and then he would also be the one to cancel on me last minute saying he was tired or had a headache. This happened several times. Then his birthday happened. Everything was fine (on his birthday) and we were just texting back and forth flirting and I was wishing him a good time with his family... then out of nowhere, he started this argument with me again about my social media account... this time, I got annoyed and it turned into a full blown argument. I feel like the argument ruined his birthday, and then he flipped the script on me and decided he only wanted to be friends. He told me that he cares about me a lot, he is really attracted to me, and he thinks I am funny and a good person BUT he doesn't want a relationship right now. He also said that he does not want to hurt me, so he does not want us to have sex , but he still wants to hang out as friends only. Then he said, that he can sense I want more than friendship (which he is right about) and because of this, he understands if I move on and date someone else. I tried apologizing and making amends, because the whole thing was dumb to begin with (even though it was started by him).. but I felt that the more I tried to apologize and tell him how much I cared for him..the more he resisted.. until he started to make me feel desperate (because of how much I was trying), so I backed off.

At first, I agreed with his "let's be friends" suggestion because I did not want to have sex either. I wanted to wait. So I thought to myself, this really shouldn't change much between us anyway since this whole thing was still fresh, and it's ok to take things slow.... but I was wrong. This changed everything. He stopped complimenting me, he stopped being romantic, and he started speaking to me in a platonic manner. He did not cancel our Saturday night plans however. But when he came over to my place, he was acting weird and different. The evening was painfully uncomfortable. At on point, he started looking at me with his bedroom eyes and complimenting me.. we both smiled at each other..and that's when he abruptly said he had to leave. In that moment.. I got so chocked up and upset. It's one thing if we started out as friends, but it's another thing to go back to being platonic after being so passionate with each other.. I just couldn't do it.

So before he left, I decided to bring up the argument we had. I tried to talk to him in a mature clam manner, but he got angry upset and closed off. He said he simply did not want a relationship and to stop pushing the issue.. I told him I just wanted to talk about the argument and I wasn't pushing anything.. then he said that our argument about my social media account has nothing to do with why he doesn't want a relationship. He just wants to be single and date multiple women and I have to respect his decision and that it had nothing to do with my social media or our argument about it. Then he started getting angry and getting dressed to leave. I had tears in my eyes, but I held it all back and walked him to the door. He saw I was hurt and he gave me a long hug and kiss on the forehead. Then he tried to be playful and tickle my stomach but I wasn't having it, I just said good night and slammed the door. I sat there all night, with a ball in my throat, thinking how terrible of a night this was.. Then I texted him saying I can't do this "friend" thing and wished him the best. It has been 2 days and he never replied.. yet he has been watching me on social media (I see him show up in the people who view my videos).

Here is why he's a hypocrite:

1- During the entire time we were seeing each other, he was talking to other women which he admitted (and that's fine we are not exclusive but then don't argue with me about my social media)

2- A lot of the women he was talking to also have social media accounts with lots of male attention - it doesn't bother him with them, but it did with me?

3- He demands honesty but I felt like he wasn't being honest with me about his own thoughts and feelings

Can someone please make sense of all this? I am ready to let him go.... but I want to understand what happened and why he is treating me this way.

he is 🏃 for whatever reason.

This is his deal not yours. No need to demonize him. His words do not match his obvious feelings and actions. Don't take it personal I doubt it actually has anything to do with you. It's a internal problem.

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Posted by dillpickle

this is classic fuckboy moves. it has nothing to do w/ astrology.

“take it slow”

“no labels”

“i like you but dont want a relationship”

“i care about you”

he spoon feeds compliments & caring schtick to keep the pussy gate open. it’s only up to you to close that gate & lock it w/ a key.

I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree... classic taurus sun gem moon.

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His moon is in Virgo.

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Posted by mrfish23

I read the entire paragraph (even though I didn't wanted to cuz it looked way too long at first) and I'm going to sum it up in short pointers for you.

1. You said he was talking to other girls while also talking with you

2. He says he "wants to be single and date multiple women"

3."One night he asked me how long I take to sleep with a guy" He asked you this question after you showed your interest in him after the 1st stale phase

I think these 3 points are enough for you to understand that: He was only looking for easy sex, didn't got it, instead he got a woman who was falling crazily for him and he NEVER wanted anything serious in the first place from you. Therefore he decided to run away real fast once things got heavy.

Ok thanks for the eye opener.

By the way, I'm new to this site.. is there a way to edit my original post and make it shorter?

About what you said, thanks for summing it up. Where does the argument about my social media fit in to all this? Why does he even care about that, if he was only being casual.

You're welcome. I'll also advice not to worry or regret about this guy too much.

You can click on "details" besides the "like" button and can edit the original post from thereon.

Classic Taurus behaviour. They want to own and control people whereas they won't listen to ONE thing you say to them. It's not a surprise that most of the physical abusers in relationships turn out to be Taurus is it? *Cough Amber Heard* *cough Hitler with Eva Braun*

Ok thanks. I actually had no idea Taurus men were like this.. my 2 best friends are Taurus (females) and they are both married and seemingly normal. I never dated a Taurus before but I thought, since I get a long with them so well, we would be a match made in heaven.

Don't judge compatibility just on the basis of "Sun signs"

Or more so, a simple life advice, don't judge a relationship or person just "because of a zodiac sign"

Astrology is fun but shouldn't be taken as a literal determinant.

Listen to your intuitions, Try things out, if they work good, if they don't; no harm and you get a life lesson in bonus.

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This is so true.

Posted by MareInfame

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Posted by DMV

Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

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He courted me for a month before we started seeing each other in person and after our first date, he wanted to see me every day... but it broke down within a few weeks because of this argument. To put it into perspective, the day before our argument, he was talking about hot I am and saying things like "I can't wait to kiss you". 24 hours later, he "just wants to be friends" because he doesn't like that I got upset when he brought up the same argument. He said this was a red flag to him and that he thought I wasn't being honest. He also said that he didn't like the idea that all these guys gave me attention on social media. After I brought up some really good arguments to counter his point, and started mentioning things like "you are still dating other women" and "I have nothing to hide go ahead and check my phone if you want".. he changed the reason and said he actually didn't care about my social media and simple doesn't want a relationship. I was so confused. One minute you're arguing about my social media, the next minute you are saying that you actually don't care and just want to be single, and that it has nothing to do with our argument... but yet you still want to see me and hang out, just not be intimate so things don't get complicated... then you come to my house and still flirt, but leave abruptly so that we don't kiss. Seriously what a confusing headache.

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Posted by DMV

Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

it doesnt really sound like there was much of a courtship tbh

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You obviously did not read my post - he never "hit" anything. We never slept together. And he still wanted to hang out with no sex.

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Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

it doesnt really sound like there was much of a courtship tbh

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Yeah, I think the longevity of the courtship says a lot.

I don’t usually take anything serious when it’s less than a year 😕

ive encountered lotsa dudes that use the exact same tactics. hell, even ive used these tactics.

saying you care about someone & telling them to “take it slow lets not rush”, is the easiest way to get them to stick around for easy sex. add in the “im not ready for a relationship” bit & it makes the other party work extra hard for your affection.

its fucked but effective.

Lol... I’ve never played that game before as I’ve never been interested in easy sex and I am more than happy for a slow and long courtship. I usually have the opposite problem - guy pressing for commitment.

So in OP’s case, you think he only wanted sex and got turned off as soon as she said she is not into having sex quickly? Even though he agreed with her? Usually Taurus men are super respectful of that and they actually see more value in you (in my experience).

You think that is why he agreed and started saying he wanted a relationship too?

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He was perfectly ok not having sex while we were seeing each other, and after our argument, it was his idea to continue hanging out but he specifically said "no sex or intimacy" so that it doesn't "make things even more complicated."

I find your view on things more insightful than posters giving me one word answers like "hit and quit"

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You're too much work for him. He's not ready to grow up and mature.

His insecurities will get the best of him and it'll all be at your expense. Be happy for dodging this bullet. I see red flags everywhere.

Leave him right where he's at. It's safer for your heart that way.

Thank you for your post. I agree. Can you tell me what red flags you saw? Some are pretty obvious, but I'm curious of your view.

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Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

it doesnt really sound like there was much of a courtship tbh

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Yeah, I think the longevity of the courtship says a lot.

I don’t usually take anything serious when it’s less than a year 😕

ive encountered lotsa dudes that use the exact same tactics. hell, even ive used these tactics.

saying you care about someone & telling them to “take it slow lets not rush”, is the easiest way to get them to stick around for easy sex. add in the “im not ready for a relationship” bit & it makes the other party work extra hard for your affection.

its fucked but effective.

Lol... I’ve never played that game before as I’ve never been interested in easy sex and I am more than happy for a slow and long courtship. I usually have the opposite problem - guy pressing for commitment.

So in OP’s case, you think he only wanted sex and got turned off as soon as she said she is not into having sex quickly? Even though he agreed with her? Usually Taurus men are super respectful of that and they actually see more value in you (in my experience).

You think that is why he agreed and started saying he wanted a relationship too?

I think so. Note that crucially, he never said he could see himself in a relationship with her, and he made a point of asking how long she waits to have sex. I reckon he deemed the wait too long and the risk of cling too high.

Omg... this courtship was only a month and a half 🤦🏻‍♀️

He should have let go the moment she said she only has sex after being exclusive... wtf?!? Why keep going and get jealous about her social media? I mean, if all he wanted was sex, he should have just chilled until he got her in the sack. That was dumb play to keep attacking her on guys flirting with her on social media before getting the sex he so much wanted.

I don’t get it. Sounds like a waste of time if all he wanted was to play his way into sex 🙄👎🏼... so many dumb ass moves.

*shrugs*

He might not have known what he wanted from the beginning and at some point decided against it going further.

I'm not sure it matters either way, since the outcome for both scenarios is she should move on.

Well, the purpose of the thread was to understand him from a Taurus point of view.

She said she was moving on, that has already taken place. Right now, she just wants to understand.

If you and Dill are right, he sounds like a very immature 13 year old to me🤦🏻‍♀️👎🏼

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He's in his 30s. Yes, I was just trying to understand.

I don't think this was a "game" to him, though.

Emotions got deep really fast after we spent that night talking till 8am and making out. After that, he wanted to see me every day and instantly started arguing with me, before he put the breaks on everything.

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Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

it doesnt really sound like there was much of a courtship tbh

hit & quit

Yeah, I think the longevity of the courtship says a lot.

I don’t usually take anything serious when it’s less than a year 😕

ive encountered lotsa dudes that use the exact same tactics. hell, even ive used these tactics.

saying you care about someone & telling them to “take it slow lets not rush”, is the easiest way to get them to stick around for easy sex. add in the “im not ready for a relationship” bit & it makes the other party work extra hard for your affection.

its fucked but effective.

Lol... I’ve never played that game before as I’ve never been interested in easy sex and I am more than happy for a slow and long courtship. I usually have the opposite problem - guy pressing for commitment.

So in OP’s case, you think he only wanted sex and got turned off as soon as she said she is not into having sex quickly? Even though he agreed with her? Usually Taurus men are super respectful of that and they actually see more value in you (in my experience).

You think that is why he agreed and started saying he wanted a relationship too?

I think so. Note that crucially, he never said he could see himself in a relationship with her, and he made a point of asking how long she waits to have sex. I reckon he deemed the wait too long and the risk of cling too high.

Omg... this courtship was only a month and a half 🤦🏻‍♀️

He should have let go the moment she said she only has sex after being exclusive... wtf?!? Why keep going and get jealous about her social media? I mean, if all he wanted was sex, he should have just chilled until he got her in the sack. That was dumb play to keep attacking her on guys flirting with her on social media before getting the sex he so much wanted.

I don’t get it. Sounds like a waste of time if all he wanted was to play his way into sex 🙄👎🏼... so many dumb ass moves.

*shrugs*

He might not have known what he wanted from the beginning and at some point decided against it going further.

I'm not sure it matters either way, since the outcome for both scenarios is she should move on.

Well, the purpose of the thread was to understand him from a Taurus point of view.

She said she was moving on, that has already taken place. Right now, she just wants to understand.

If you and Dill are right, he sounds like a very immature 13 year old to me🤦🏻‍♀️👎🏼

True. I'd want to understand if I were her too. It's easy for us to say move on, since we're not feeling it.

I agree with you. It a bit hardening and impatient to say “just move on”. She was being real and she wasn’t playing games. I applaud her for that, and I also applaud her for wanting to understand the situation better.

It’s just her way of healing. I don’t want to minimize her experience.

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Thank you. Yes, I heal by understanding. I feel very confused and just want to understand why this happened. I thought we had a really good connection and I was just trying to give it an honest try.

I'm a gemini woman,I think I'm in the same situation, I fell in love with a Taurus guy, I met him 4 years ago and as I was/no was into a relationship at that moment we started fooling around, we had a lot of fun...then he started ignoring my messages and said he didn't want to see me anymore.. After 2 years he started talking to me again as his friends were friends of mine too... and at the beginning I didn't want to talk ti him.. but we had always been good friends so I gave in and we started being friends again...

The thing is at the end I ended up cheating on my boyfriend and breaking up because I didn't want to lie to him and I thought if I had feeling for another person being in that relationship wasn't fair.

The thing is... this Taurus man never wanted anything serious and he made it clear so I never thought of being in a relationship with him or anything, but he acted like if he cared, so that was so confusing!! He would lie to get what he wants and u never know his true feelings.. my conclusion is Taurus man are the worst people to have a crush on..

This Taurus is a bit of a coward and he is really scared of relationships, I think they are the kind of people that crush on their best friends and those who can't see them. They want someone they can trust by their side but they would give you the opportunity to show them you are more than good enough.

Anyway I think you did amazing, don't let him see you cry or sad, and never show him how much u like him, if he acts cold do the same, I think that would be the best.

btw, sorry for my poor English 😅

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Hes trying to control every aspect of this whatever you guys got. He wants you to know your place in his rolodex.

Now he can spoon free you a little here and a little there and you're so starved for his affection that you reward him for breadcrumbs. All he has to do is text, and you think hes is the greatest.

The starvation affect.

... but that's not really what happened, if you read my story. We were talking and hanging out a lot. He wasn't giving me "crumbs of attention" as you say. Then the argument happened about my social media account, and that's when he attempted to be "only friends" - an arrangement i don't really understand. I thought when people say "let's just be friends", they are letting you down easy...but he still wanted to hang out. At the same time saying he didn't want a relationship. What was the purpose of hanging out, then? If he doesn't want to be intimate and he doesn't want to date, either. Why, hang? We didn't have a history or long friendship before.

I understand him requesting a friendship IF you two started off as friends and were never intimate.

I can also understand it IF you two haven’t been dating for too long.

I don’t think feelings are too deep if you have only been dating for a few months. So, I have been in his shoes where I request friendship with guys I like, have made out with, but haven’t known that long. I can shift my energy from romantic to just friendship... just because I can see how we can best function. If I really like his personality, character and we get along great but just see us going toxic in a relationship, I would rather keep the flow between us healthy, positive and supportive... if I can only achieve that by friendship, I will prefer having that person as a friend.

We did not have a friendship beforehand. We met by him hitting on me and asking for my number. Our conversations were always flirty and he led me to believe he was looking for more than something casual.

I guess for me, it's hard to switch my energy back, so I just could not do it. Especially when he was sitting next to me, looking at me like he wanted to kiss me, and I wanted to kiss him too.. and then he abruptly decided to leave. I feel there was still sexual tension there, so how can you be friends with someone like that and just torture each other everytime you hang out.

He's the one who made it toxic and sabotaged it - by playing mind games, blowing hot and cold, and arguing with me about my social media account when everything on my account is so innocent (just compliments from guys that I don't reply to).

How long was your courtship?

I can switch it when I see something in the courtship that turns me off and I just no longer have sexual desire.

What you had with him was different because you KNEW he still had chemistry/sexual tension and you felt the same - so, he was just being dishonest there. But, Taurus will be dishonest with their own feelings if this feelings go against their own plans. They don’t value feelings as much as Water and Fire signs... and that sometimes gets them into a lot of trouble and hardships... if unbalanced too much.

Yes, in your case, it sounds like he was definitely the one being toxic and sabotaged.

it doesnt really sound like there was much of a courtship tbh

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Yeah, I think the longevity of the courtship says a lot.

I don’t usually take anything serious when it’s less than a year 😕

ive encountered lotsa dudes that use the exact same tactics. hell, even ive used these tactics.

saying you care about someone & telling them to “take it slow lets not rush”, is the easiest way to get them to stick around for easy sex. add in the “im not ready for a relationship” bit & it makes the other party work extra hard for your affection.

its fucked but effective.

Lol... I’ve never played that game before as I’ve never been interested in easy sex and I am more than happy for a slow and long courtship. I usually have the opposite problem - guy pressing for commitment.

So in OP’s case, you think he only wanted sex and got turned off as soon as she said she is not into having sex quickly? Even though he agreed with her? Usually Taurus men are super respectful of that and they actually see more value in you (in my experience).

You think that is why he agreed and started saying he wanted a relationship too?

He was perfectly ok not having sex while we were seeing each other, and after our argument, it was his idea to continue hanging out but he specifically said "no sex or intimacy" so that it doesn't "make things even more complicated."

I find your view on things more insightful than posters giving me one word answers like "hit and quit"

i am quite positive i wrote far more than “hit and quit”.

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Yeah my bad.. I was replying in order of reading, and then saw your subsequent posts.

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You're too much work for him. He's not ready to grow up and mature.

His insecurities will get the best of him and it'll all be at your expense. Be happy for dodging this bullet. I see red flags everywhere.

Leave him right where he's at. It's safer for your heart that way.

Thank you for your post. I agree. Can you tell me what red flags you saw? Some are pretty obvious, but I'm curious of your view.

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"When we first *started talking, right away* he poured compliments..."

"Then *all of a sudden* he started taking a really long time..."

"One night he asked me *how long I take to sleep with a guy..."

"..... he started an *argument w me ***about my social media*** account.."

ALL red flags.

ALL red flags.

ALL red flags.

Close this chapter and never look his way again, for YOUR OWN HEARTS sake.

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You're too much work for him. He's not ready to grow up and mature.

His insecurities will get the best of him and it'll all be at your expense. Be happy for dodging this bullet. I see red flags everywhere.

Leave him right where he's at. It's safer for your heart that way.

Thank you for your post. I agree. Can you tell me what red flags you saw? Some are pretty obvious, but I'm curious of your view.

"When we first *started talking, right away* he poured compliments..."

"Then *all of a sudden* he started taking a really long time..."

"One night he asked me *how long I take to sleep with a guy..."

"..... he started an *argument w me ***about my social media*** account.."

ALL red flags.

ALL red flags.

ALL red flags.

Close this chapter and never look his way again, for YOUR OWN HEARTS sake.

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Thanks you're right.

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this is classic fuckboy moves. it has nothing to do w/ astrology.

“take it slow”

“no labels”

“i like you but dont want a relationship”

“i care about you”

he spoon feeds compliments & caring schtick to keep the pussy gate open. it’s only up to you to close that gate & lock it w/ a key.

I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree... classic taurus sun gem moon.

His moon is in Virgo.

oyyyy veyyy i shoulda known this was a virgo mess

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lol why is that? Does virgo moon have any influence on an immovable stubborn sun sign like Taurus?

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He is mad at you because you bring out emotions out of him that he does not want to see nor confront.

He prefers to be with a girl that doesn’t bring that out in him.... where he likes her, but doesn’t feel so passionately about her. This is his best way of functioning, where he can be his boring self and not have to be in high alert all the time. (Like at the beginning where he didn’t really respond to any of your texts. That is the real, normal him. Being energetic, responsive and expressive was depleting his energy - he cannot sustain that long term. If you want that long term, get yourself a water or fire sun sign).

With you, he gets too jealous, too vigilant, too possessive, too anxious, too passionate and he would rather feel less to none at all.... but he cannot feel less with you. The closer he gets to you, the MORE he feels.... and he HATES THAT - because the world of emotions is a weakness to him (whereas for you, it is home/comfort zone and a strength)

It also sounds like he believes in one-sided relationships only. Where he sets all the rigid rules and where rules only apply to you and not to him. If you dare apply HIS rules to him, he will become furious and start attacking you on how you are too pushy, controlling and over-bearing.... there, he hates your persistence.

I think you did the right thing in cutting ties with him... IMO, he only had his own interest at heart and had no clue as to how to be understanding toward you or how to be fair in a relationship. For heavens sake, he didn’t even have the courage or maturity to have a conversation with you, he was running away as soon as he would have to be questioned about anything. He is unwilling to discuss things out and hear your side of the story.

My heart goes out to you, I’ve been in your shoes and shed similar tears. It’s a clusterfuck of mind games and he would rather hurt you than deal with the truth of what he feels. That really hurts on the receiving end.

He knows what you feel and he feels the same for you... but he masks what he feels and won’t allow himself to feel so much, so he retaliates by being an ass hole to you.

You might never fully understand what he did... you did your best and gave it your all to have a healthy, honest relationship and communication. But he doesn’t like honest nor healthy. He likes to be stuck on comfort where his feelings are not out of control. He doesn’t want to see them nor deal with them (he is passive Venusian) and in order to maintain that comfort, he will resort to any means possible (more games).

He will pick a partner that doesn’t see his games, doesn’t confront his unfair behavior, doesn’t shed light on any given situation. He wants it his way and his way ONLY.

That’s what I tried to post . This happened to me he broke up after I had a Bruise in inner thigh I could tell his mind was running. Then I got a call from my mom but to late his mind was spinning. He ended up marrying plain Jane will never question or be concerned about her. I never did anything intentional. Did everything explained here n I wished years of my life trying to understand what went wrong

Don’t do this to yourself he chose this don’t waste ur time.

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Can you tell me what happened exactly?

It's funny because my best friend is a Taurus and she had her heart broken when she was much younger. Never told me what happened for years, all I knew is that she got massive revenge on the guy. Now she's happily married so she decided to finally tell me (after knowing me for years) what happened to her first love. She said they were dating for a while and, she noticed that he had an old photo of his ex in his wallet. That was it. That's what did it. She left him and never looked back and gets much satisfaction from the guy chasing after her for years. He said it was an old wallet and that is why he never noticed or threw out the photo... but she was convinced he still had feelings for her because he kept the photo. Perhaps there is more to the story but, over an old photo that he never noticed hidden behind some receipts.. I thought the reaction was a little extreme.

I guess this is how some of them act...

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All this drama over a month long period?

Why are you analyzing it and getting attached?

You should be dropping him and leaving it.

I get quarantine seems to limit options, but no company is better than this irritant.

Yes the quarantine has been getting to me. I spend way too much time in the house with nothing to do... perhaps this is why I got attached to the situation. But in all honesty, I really did feel a connection with him. I actually wasn't even 100% attracted to him .. it's the emotional connection (when he let his guard down) that had me hooked. It felt like a deep level of understanding and similar personalities... but clearly I was wrong or this wouldn't have happened. Where is that "deep understanding" now? Non-existent.

Curious if anyone has an opinion about why he never replied to my goodbye text? Is it because he doesn't care?

I was quite hurt by that. My message was nice and not argumentative. It was long too.. where I explained that it was hard for me to shut my feelings off and just be friends, especially when I felt like he had all these "rules" in place for us (no kissing, no physical affection, just flirty stares and keeping me at a distance - not the type of friendship I want or need in my life). I told him that I was ok with taking it slow, but not ok with this kind of awkward arrangement, so it's best we no longer see each other.

He could have said something. "Sorry this happened and I also wish you the best". "I respect what you're saying but my views are different. Take care"........... or anything along those lines. Instead he chose silence.

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hay OP have you posted his other placements?

i just reread your initial post & i am curious if there is an aries venus at play

Dam you're good. haha yep Venus Aries. His placements:

Taurus Sun

Virgo Moon

Taurus Mercury

Aries Venus

Pisces Mars

I am a scorpio sun, aries moon, venus in scorpio (Yes it's hard).

I don't know his rising.... but I am a Taurus rising

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The point is everyone here told me what their telling you. But I needed answer the thing is

It doesn’t matter if it was cuz he like u n it was to much

Or he care nothing for you. It’s the same outcome

He chose not to work together with you in this. Why with another maybe she is ok with his way or the highway? Maybe she’s ok with double standards who know the whys don’t matter.

Touche

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He is mad at you because you bring out emotions out of him that he does not want to see nor confront.

He prefers to be with a girl that doesn’t bring that out in him.... where he likes her, but doesn’t feel so passionately about her. This is his best way of functioning, where he can be his boring self and not have to be in high alert all the time. (Like at the beginning where he didn’t really respond to any of your texts. That is the real, normal him. Being energetic, responsive and expressive was depleting his energy - he cannot sustain that long term. If you want that long term, get yourself a water or fire sun sign).

With you, he gets too jealous, too vigilant, too possessive, too anxious, too passionate and he would rather feel less to none at all.... but he cannot feel less with you. The closer he gets to you, the MORE he feels.... and he HATES THAT - because the world of emotions is a weakness to him (whereas for you, it is home/comfort zone and a strength)

It also sounds like he believes in one-sided relationships only. Where he sets all the rigid rules and where rules only apply to you and not to him. If you dare apply HIS rules to him, he will become furious and start attacking you on how you are too pushy, controlling and over-bearing.... there, he hates your persistence.

I think you did the right thing in cutting ties with him... IMO, he only had his own interest at heart and had no clue as to how to be understanding toward you or how to be fair in a relationship. For heavens sake, he didn’t even have the courage or maturity to have a conversation with you, he was running away as soon as he would have to be questioned about anything. He is unwilling to discuss things out and hear your side of the story.

My heart goes out to you, I’ve been in your shoes and shed similar tears. It’s a clusterfuck of mind games and he would rather hurt you than deal with the truth of what he feels. That really hurts on the receiving end.

He knows what you feel and he feels the same for you... but he masks what he feels and won’t allow himself to feel so much, so he retaliates by being an ass hole to you.

You might never fully understand what he did... you did your best and gave it your all to have a healthy, honest relationship and communication. But he doesn’t like honest nor healthy. He likes to be stuck on comfort where his feelings are not out of control. He doesn’t want to see them nor deal with them (he is passive Venusian) and in order to maintain that comfort, he will resort to any means possible (more games).

He will pick a partner that doesn’t see his games, doesn’t confront his unfair behavior, doesn’t shed light on any given situation. He wants it his way and his way ONLY.

That’s what I tried to post . This happened to me he broke up after I had a Bruise in inner thigh I could tell his mind was running. Then I got a call from my mom but to late his mind was spinning. He ended up marrying plain Jane will never question or be concerned about her. I never did anything intentional. Did everything explained here n I wished years of my life trying to understand what went wrong

Don’t do this to yourself he chose this don’t waste ur time.

Can you tell me what happened exactly?

It's funny because my best friend is a Taurus and she had her heart broken when she was much younger. Never told me what happened for years, all I knew is that she got massive revenge on the guy. Now she's happily married so she decided to finally tell me (after knowing me for years) what happened to her first love. She said they were dating for a while and, she noticed that he had an old photo of his ex in his wallet. That was it. That's what did it. She left him and never looked back and gets much satisfaction from the guy chasing after her for years. He said it was an old wallet and that is why he never noticed or threw out the photo... but she was convinced he still had feelings for her because he kept the photo. Perhaps there is more to the story but, over an old photo that he never noticed hidden behind some receipts.. I thought the reaction was a little extreme.

I guess this is how some of them act...

A lot of what ur going in not in.

We were finally exclusive n I had go e with freinds to Cabo on a pre planned trip. We spoke here n there. When I returned we met up all fine until we have sex. I had a bruise n he asked me were did u get that? I said I didn’t know. It did t occur to me to tell him I had gone atv n I bruised then. So his wheels are turning phone call comes in I don’t answer. He’s looks mad sends me home and says we’ll talk later n needed a week. At home it hits me did he think it was a guy ? I text him tell him the call was from my mom. I gave him his space A week later we meet he breaks up with me. Does the freind thing

Don’t do it it was heartbreak of off n on for the next two years. He married a demoure, house wife , no issues of him getting jealous from her. Very conservative in dress looks, no makeup . U know the type

So please don’t dwel on him not worth it.

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

I actually just remembered I did date a Taurus once.. it was so long ago I forgot about him. We dated for about 6 months and got into 1 argument (yup only one argument).. it was the first and the last. He said he couldn't get over that argument, that he looked at me differently and he wanted to stay friends..but he pissed me off so bad that I told him to politely eff off (no thanks to being friends with someone that hard-headed).

A year later he reached out to me on social media. He had been snooping on me all that time, but I actually had moved on from him completely. He asked me if I had thought about him during the last year, and I said "no, not at all". He then retreated back into his cave and I never heard from him again. Good riddance.

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All this drama over a month long period?

Why are you analyzing it and getting attached?

You should be dropping him and leaving it.

I get quarantine seems to limit options, but no company is better than this irritant.

Yes the quarantine has been getting to me. I spend way too much time in the house with nothing to do... perhaps this is why I got attached to the situation. But in all honesty, I really did feel a connection with him. I actually wasn't even 100% attracted to him .. it's the emotional connection (when he let his guard down) that had me hooked. It felt like a deep level of understanding and similar personalities... but clearly I was wrong or this wouldn't have happened. Where is that "deep understanding" now? Non-existent.

No no no no no

That’s the game playing. I can tell you about the time I was hurt and abused and used and just want someone to love and appreciate me, and I might get laid.

Don’t fall for the sad story. We all have them. It’s not your job to fix things or comfort him.

He’s used it to draw you in. And then he will devalue you when u dont live up to his expectations.

Hurt people, hurt people.

He’s nothing.

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hmmm can you elaborate on this? I wasn't referring to 'sad stories' .. I was referring to the fact that when he wasn't acting like a closed off hard-headed a-hole, we talked and laughed a lot and had a lot in common. But what you are saying is interesting and I am intrigued.

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Posted by dillpickle

hay OP have you posted his other placements?

i just reread your initial post & i am curious if there is an aries venus at play

Dam you're good. haha yep Venus Aries. His placements:

Taurus Sun

Virgo Moon

Taurus Mercury

Aries Venus

Pisces Mars

I am a scorpio sun, aries moon, venus in scorpio (Yes it's hard).

I don't know his rising.... but I am a Taurus rising

his venus felt comf emotionally vomiting on your moon. but his virgo/taurus shit cut it off. pisces mars is such a pointless placement. i have a 12th house mars & it makes me so useless. i prob would not have responded to the goodbye text either lol

aries venus will smother you in attention for like 2 weeks then start w/ the bullshit backpeddling.

if there is one thing i know about taurus sun & merc, is that they WILL be very direct about what they do / do not want.

now that i’ve reread i think jeane had a good read on the situation. but there was another responder who said something may have changed & thats why he backpeddled. which, i also agree with.

imo, this is all immature virgo/aries energy at play here.

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Is this the post you agree with:



"i have a slightly different reading. he doesn't trust you. that's not to say you are untrustworthy. more an issue on his part than anything else but i suspect he worries that you are eventually going to take off with one of your admirers and figures it's not worth the risk.

he certainly has feelings, is attracted, wants to do the right thing (ie so let's just be friends) but it's that conflict between playing it safe but also wanting something to happen between you."



Whatever "changed" was in his own dam head. Seriously, I did nothing. And he made me feel so dumb and desperate for trying to explain this to him until I was blue in the face... then I backed off because I started asking myself "why I am going to lower myself to this level to prove to this guy that I am honest and genuine".

Once he made up his mind, there was no point in trying to change it.

Funny how he wants honesty but can't give it himself. I say this because he said "I don't like the idea of dating a woman with all this male attention" followed by "I'm not mad, I never said I care about your social media account, I just don't like it when people aren't honest" followed by "I never said you weren't honest, I think you're good person and genuine, but I don't like that we are already arguing so I just want to be friends right now but who knows what could happen down the road" followed by "it wasn't the argument that made me not want to be in a relationship, I just simply want to be single, and date around and you have to respect that".

Exactly which of these explanations am I supposed to accept as truth...

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

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Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

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Posted by dillpickle

hay OP have you posted his other placements?

i just reread your initial post & i am curious if there is an aries venus at play

Dam you're good. haha yep Venus Aries. His placements:

Taurus Sun

Virgo Moon

Taurus Mercury

Aries Venus

Pisces Mars

I am a scorpio sun, aries moon, venus in scorpio (Yes it's hard).

I don't know his rising.... but I am a Taurus rising

his venus felt comf emotionally vomiting on your moon. but his virgo/taurus shit cut it off. pisces mars is such a pointless placement. i have a 12th house mars & it makes me so useless. i prob would not have responded to the goodbye text either lol

aries venus will smother you in attention for like 2 weeks then start w/ the bullshit backpeddling.

if there is one thing i know about taurus sun & merc, is that they WILL be very direct about what they do / do not want.

now that i’ve reread i think jeane had a good read on the situation. but there was another responder who said something may have changed & thats why he backpeddled. which, i also agree with.

imo, this is all immature virgo/aries energy at play here.

Is this the post you agree with:



"i have a slightly different reading. he doesn't trust you. that's not to say you are untrustworthy. more an issue on his part than anything else but i suspect he worries that you are eventually going to take off with one of your admirers and figures it's not worth the risk.

he certainly has feelings, is attracted, wants to do the right thing (ie so let's just be friends) but it's that conflict between playing it safe but also wanting something to happen between you."



Whatever "changed" was in his own dam head. Seriously, I did nothing. And he made me feel so dumb and desperate for trying to explain this to him until I was blue in the face... then I backed off because I started asking myself "why I am going to lower myself to this level to prove to this guy that I am honest and genuine".

Once he made up his mind, there was no point in trying to change it.

Funny how he wants honesty but can't give it himself. I say this because he said "I don't like the idea of dating a woman with all this male attention" followed by "I'm not mad, I never said I care about your social media account, I just don't like it when people aren't honest" followed by "I never said you weren't honest, I think you're good person and genuine, but I don't like that we are already arguing so I just want to be friends right now but who knows what could happen down the road" followed by "it wasn't the argument that made me not want to be in a relationship, I just simply want to be single, and date around and you have to respect that".

Exactly which of these explanations am I supposed to accept as truth...

yup thats the post. except i dont agree with the last part. i think something happened that made him pull back & now he’s not interested. pisces mars built up that fantasy. virgo moon is madthat it didnt live up to his probably outrageous expectations.

it was prob something you said/did but it was likely nothing to get his panties bunched up for. virgo energy is exactly “made up all in his head”. if you think about how much gemini’s talk, thats virgo but all in their mind. they dont share the mind jumble going on.

tbh, in my opinion, it isnt worth the headache for you. i know there was an emotional connect but i do not think his gaslighting & bullshit back & forth is worth the trouble. the only thing taurus about this whole shit is the inability to change his mind.

what i’d be worried about is him coming back over & over, after saying he is done. i still have my virgo-aries energy ex coming into my inbox after basically a year of not talking. last time we spoke i told him to never talk to me again, yet here we are 🤷🏻‍♀️

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I think he's too stubborn for that IMHO

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

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oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

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Haha I love how you started off by saying"oh man" lol... why's that?

I'm fit, but not a body builder.. more like the fitness model body type. I work really hard to look this way...it's not fair that someone has to make me feel bad about it. Fitness is my passion. And he is really not in shape.. he used to be really fit.. and I remember im making comments about his "training days" and how he "doesn't look like that anymore" on the day we were supposed to have our first date. Almost like he was warning me in advance. He even said for me not to "get my hopes up" about his body.. I'll admit, he's a bit scrawny but I am not overly superficial and I still find him attractive. Plus, he brags about having dated models and actresses... so he clearly gets women and should be confident about that.

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

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BTW this kind of superficial bs makes me sick (his line of thinking I mean, if what you are saying is true)... I crave a raw connection, not one based solely on looks. I thought that's what we had.

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

Haha I love how you started off by saying"oh man" lol... why's that?

I'm fit, but not a body builder.. more like the fitness model body type. I work really hard to look this way...it's not fair that someone has to make me feel bad about it. Fitness is my passion. And he is really not in shape.. he used to be really fit.. and I remember im making comments about his "training days" and how he "doesn't look like that anymore" on the day we were supposed to have our first date. Almost like he was warning me in advance. He even said for me not to "get my hopes up" about his body.. I'll admit, he's a bit scrawny but I am not overly superficial and I still find him attractive. Plus, he brags about having dated models and actresses... so he clearly gets women and should be confident about that.

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I'll just say that extra curvy women just complicate matters a lot for me....I don't consider myself to be all that superficial either but there is a threshold...Really though, the main issues would seem to be that he isn't into the whole fitness thing anymore, and he'll most likely be comparing himself to any guys that you interact with who are, you're going to get much more attention from males than the average female, etc.

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

Haha I love how you started off by saying"oh man" lol... why's that?

I'm fit, but not a body builder.. more like the fitness model body type. I work really hard to look this way...it's not fair that someone has to make me feel bad about it. Fitness is my passion. And he is really not in shape.. he used to be really fit.. and I remember im making comments about his "training days" and how he "doesn't look like that anymore" on the day we were supposed to have our first date. Almost like he was warning me in advance. He even said for me not to "get my hopes up" about his body.. I'll admit, he's a bit scrawny but I am not overly superficial and I still find him attractive. Plus, he brags about having dated models and actresses... so he clearly gets women and should be confident about that.

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you're a pt? i can imagine that would drive him nuts.

to me he sounds very insecure. you're taking what he is saying at face value (which is logical) but i wouldn't believe everything he says. i suspect he feels like you are better than him and he's punching above his weight with you. the models and actresses thing i would take with a pinch of salt....maybe back in the day.

from my experience, taurus can be very sensitive creatures. they are going to also protect and quickly retreat if they sense a chance of their feelings getting hurt. friendship for them can be a way of slowly dipping a toe in. understandably, going back to friendship when you've gone beyond that can be difficult. i've had my own experience with that move.

as i said i my original post. this is his issue. certainly not yours.

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

Haha I love how you started off by saying"oh man" lol... why's that?

I'm fit, but not a body builder.. more like the fitness model body type. I work really hard to look this way...it's not fair that someone has to make me feel bad about it. Fitness is my passion. And he is really not in shape.. he used to be really fit.. and I remember im making comments about his "training days" and how he "doesn't look like that anymore" on the day we were supposed to have our first date. Almost like he was warning me in advance. He even said for me not to "get my hopes up" about his body.. I'll admit, he's a bit scrawny but I am not overly superficial and I still find him attractive. Plus, he brags about having dated models and actresses... so he clearly gets women and should be confident about that.

I'll just say that extra curvy women just complicate matters a lot for me....I don't consider myself to be all that superficial either but there is a threshold...Really though, the main issues would seem to be that he isn't into the whole fitness thing anymore, and he'll most likely be comparing himself to any guys that you interact with who are, you're going to get much more attention from males than the average female, etc.

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lol yeah I'm curvy. But he has other "curvy" women on his SM.

Fitness or not, he is on multiple dating sites (which I know for a fact) and I see him adding attractive women to his social media almost on a daily basis. I can't help it, Scorpios snoop. Yes, I looked and observed, but never said a word about it. He definitely has charisma and obviously attracts women. Of course, I do not know the extent of their interactions or if they led to anything more than just chatting.. but every time he pulled away from me and I noticed his social media activity, I always assumed it's because he was diverting his attention elsewhere...not because he was insecure about the attention I get. Again, I don't reply to any of the comments under my photos.

The difference between him and I is, I never mentioned any of this. I just quietly observed and waited to see where things go with us. Did it make me feel insecure? Yeah, sometimes. But I trusted what I felt between us and told myself it's wayyy too soon to be expecting exclusivity.

I mean, I have my own insecurities too, just like anybody. I don't act on them though. I try really hard to stay calm and be patient.

When he got mad at me and said the whole "let's just be friends" thing.. he honestly made me feel like I was forcing a relationship on him and I never did... that's the only reason his behavior confuses me.. probably when my feelings fade, I will be able to see this more clearly and maybe I will realize he was just way too insecure and mistrusting to be able to have a healthy relationship with me. I definitely felt that about him. But right now, I'm still hurt about all the things he said and it's hard for me to see past that. He made it seem like it had nothing to do with my SM, trust issues or insecurities and everything to do with him just wanting to be single and talk to multiple women (something Scorpios just LOVE to hear). Was that his way of diverting attention away from his own issues, and putting this whole thing on me? (Apparently, I'm the one arguing, I'm the one with the expectations.. meanwhile I was just being honest, trying to have open communications, and not the one who started the argument about my SM).

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Wow... sorry you went through that. I think Taurus men go with the friends thing because they have a hard time letting go.. so they will keep you in their life because it's easier for them to still have you there in the background, while they occupy their time with someone else and never actually have to face the emotions of getting over you.

Its sorta true. I mean I do have a hard time letting go, but I don't ever see myself as "getting over" people. If I loved them, I can always remember why - always go back to when my emotions peaked in the relationship - and I tend to always hold them in that regard, on that pedestal, somewhat. That was the best of our chemistry, or them at their best, etc., even if they ultimately wanted to murder me. I think the height of things is something to respect, to cherish, and if a friendship can be preserved that honors that and allows you to hold onto some of them, all the better, because I can go on loving that person, just in a different way....So yeah, it makes it easier. If the energy is too love/hate, or the person is too all or nothing, etc., I can totally understand them feeling like that type of situation would just keep them stuck though...

This is a very short relationship you two had, but maybe the chemistry was just that strong; I can't judge it. I've met people and felt things at first, that lasted and even got stronger, that I don't even have categories for. I will say that there is a certain type of chemistry, and I did feel it with a Scorpio, where the jealousy/control aspects get so heightened, that I definitely would want to spare that person and myself the burden of it all, and see them happier with someone they're more compatible with, can be more of themselves around, etc. Related to what you said about his other female friends, I also can have connections with other women, that maybe aren't as heavy/emotional, to where they can do all the same things, and I don't freak out about it or sometimes even care at all. I can also say I've pushed relationships back to friend status, given things more time, allowed trust to build, and then found ways to work through/around some of these issues....For me, the friend category isn't about demoting someone, quite the opposite - its actually about me learning to respect them and their personal freedom/identity properly again...

Everyone is really just speculating about his motives, projecting their past experiences, myself included...but I definitely can relate to his actions in ways, and I have no idea what your social media looks like but I remember seeing my Sag's SM and thinking "no possible way I can be with a girl like this" lol. Even recently SM issues almost caused a breakup. Our courtship, and ultimately reaching any level of commitment/exclusivity took forever, and has been on & off and changed so many times still. The Gem in this thread said something about Taurus being one of the worst signs to crush on, and, at least speaking for myself, I agree completely. I try to be really up-front about that, and so many of my flaws/quirks, how slow I am, etc.....and I can see the writing on the wall if the chemistry is at a certain level and will openly/actively tell the person to run, and be happy for them if they do. Being practical just isn't something a lot of people want to do in the face of strong emotion though, especially water signs....I'd just say be thankful that this is still early and the hooks are not in too deep on either end....

Honestly, I would loved to stay friends and build that trust, but if he's that mistrusting and that insecure, he should have started off by being my friend first. As a Scorpio, I simply cannot have intense passion with someone and then, it what seemed like the blink of an eye, totally scale that back to just hanging out. I gave it the ol college try and still met up with him on friendly terms..but after he looked me in the eyes, made a comment about "my beautiful body", and then quickly said he had to leave... it was in that moment that I realized I just couldn't do it. And I'm not going to torture myself just so that someone can slowly maybe trust me or maybe not..depending on how things go.

About my social media, I am a personal trainer and have a lot of followers and about 400-500 comments under each photo ...all from men, not going to lie. I post a lot of fitness content, so bikini photos too..but all tasteful. He knew this about me from day 1. We added each other on SM before we had our first date. So he shouldn't have wasted my time if this is such an issue for him... again, I know for a fact he's talking to other women, who are also attractive and have a lot of followers. But I get your point that it may have bothered him with me more than others... although I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

oh man you're a fitness chick lol....I get it; you're doing the right thing....yeah he probably can't even handle the friendship....and really, this is related to your career so its not anything you would want to adjust in the slightest over someone else's insecurity....

Haha I love how you started off by saying"oh man" lol... why's that?

I'm fit, but not a body builder.. more like the fitness model body type. I work really hard to look this way...it's not fair that someone has to make me feel bad about it. Fitness is my passion. And he is really not in shape.. he used to be really fit.. and I remember im making comments about his "training days" and how he "doesn't look like that anymore" on the day we were supposed to have our first date. Almost like he was warning me in advance. He even said for me not to "get my hopes up" about his body.. I'll admit, he's a bit scrawny but I am not overly superficial and I still find him attractive. Plus, he brags about having dated models and actresses... so he clearly gets women and should be confident about that.

you're a pt? i can imagine that would drive him nuts.

to me he sounds very insecure. you're taking what he is saying at face value (which is logical) but i wouldn't believe everything he says. i suspect he feels like you are better than him and he's punching above his weight with you. the models and actresses thing i would take with a pinch of salt....maybe back in the day.

from my experience, taurus can be very sensitive creatures. they are going to also protect and quickly retreat if they sense a chance of their feelings getting hurt. friendship for them can be a way of slowly dipping a toe in. understandably, going back to friendship when you've gone beyond that can be difficult. i've had my own experience with that move.

as i said i my original post. this is his issue. certainly not yours.

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Thanks. It's my Aries Moon. It causes me to take everything people say at face value, because I am so blunt and direct. So I always expect other people to be equally blunt and direct. But I noticed when we were arguing, that his excuses were not always making sense.. because he kept changing his explanation... so obviously he wasn't really being truthful.

And yes, I wish we just started as friends only. But the first time we hung out, he kissed me within the first 3 minutes of seeing me, while I was mid-sentence talking.... and by the end of our date, he was kissing my hand constantly and hugging me constantly... and things just kept getting more and more intense.. so how do you go from that to just hanging out? I just couldn't do it.

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hay OP have you posted his other placements?

i just reread your initial post & i am curious if there is an aries venus at play

Dam you're good. haha yep Venus Aries. His placements:

Taurus Sun

Virgo Moon

Taurus Mercury

Aries Venus

Pisces Mars

I am a scorpio sun, aries moon, venus in scorpio (Yes it's hard).

I don't know his rising.... but I am a Taurus rising

Oh I like your placements...

And it's those intense fixed placements that are making it so hard for you to accept that you fell for someone who was not looking into "anything serious" and sprinkle on top of those fixed placements an impulsive, firey Aries Moon and waves of emotions is what you get.

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Way too many emotions.. sometimes I have to take a break from myself.

Fitness is a way for me to channel all that passion and energy into a positive outlet. The more I train, the more I am too sore and tired to "feel". If I take a break from training even for one week, my emotions start getting intense again. It's been a way for me to control that and stay grounded.

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You can be into fitness without posting pictures of yourself online.

I feel the need to say that after reading the past couple of pages.

It's 2020. And we are in the middle of quarantine. Most of my clients are online clients and the business I get is largely from word of mouth and social media. Most trainers I know advertise online and social media is a huge source of revenue. Yes, we post fitness photos because that is what attracts people who want to get into shape and want advice on how to do it.

But thanks for your thoughts!

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Posted by dillpickle

hay OP have you posted his other placements?

i just reread your initial post & i am curious if there is an aries venus at play

Dam you're good. haha yep Venus Aries. His placements:

Taurus Sun

Virgo Moon

Taurus Mercury

Aries Venus

Pisces Mars

I am a scorpio sun, aries moon, venus in scorpio (Yes it's hard).

I don't know his rising.... but I am a Taurus rising

Oh I like your placements...

And it's those intense fixed placements that are making it so hard for you to accept that you fell for someone who was not looking into "anything serious" and sprinkle on top of those fixed placements an impulsive, firey Aries Moon and waves of emotions is what you get.

Way too many emotions.. sometimes I have to take a break from myself.

Fitness is a way for me to channel all that passion and energy into a positive outlet. The more I train, the more I am too sore and tired to "feel". If I take a break from training even for one week, my emotions start getting intense again. It's been a way for me to control that and stay grounded.

Fortunately for me my Cap moon helps me in being control over my emotional Pisces sun.

I feel the same way as you when it comes to being active, coming from the UK, football (soccer) is something I've always been close to, always have watched and played it till my college time, then joined Gym and started being regular in lifting weights. Breaking a sweat, and the soreness after a workout kinda also puts me in ease, giving me a feel that I'm doing something productive and good for my body's well being, also when you're inside a Gym with your earphones plugged in blasting heavy music, you just block all the external BS of the world and get into a diff zone completely, and I love that.

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My Mars is in Capricorn so I have a very strong work ethic and usually approach all my projects like a drill sergeant. Unfortunately, it does nothing for taming my emotions though. Fitness is the only thing that helps.

Yes, I agree - music on, world off, and lifting weights is the best feeling.

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You can be into fitness without posting pictures of yourself online.

I feel the need to say that after reading the past couple of pages.

It's 2020. And we are in the middle of quarantine. Most of my clients are online clients and the business I get is largely from word of mouth and social media. Most trainers I know advertise online and social media is a huge source of revenue. Yes, we post fitness photos because that is what attracts people who want to get into shape and want advice on how to do it.

But thanks for your thoughts!

What kind of clients? Are you a fitness trainer?

I can tell you as a woman with Taurus Venus and rising, I would not date someone whose job was to flirt online, and sorry, but that is how I view online "models".

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Obviously you did not read the last few pages that you felt the need to comment on - yes, as I mentioned before, I am a personal trainer. When exactly did I say I was "flirting online". My clients are mostly female. But it does not stop men from commenting on my photos, comments I never reply to.

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't find your "advice" useful.