Aqua woman ... is she for real?

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I will try to make this as short as possible:

I'm Taurus, divorced for 7 months, she is an Aqua, divorced for 5-6 years, with a cute daughter. Since summer we've been interacting more and more, mainly online. We saw each other, but not so much. In the last 2-3 months things got very strong, very, very. She is extremely good with words, she rocked my world. We got to the point of falling in love with each other, she told me that a month ago, I told her the same. Everything was incredible with her, very attentive, very supportive, quite clingy I could say.

From time to time, when everything seemed to be going in the good direction, when we looked like a couple, she would take a step back, saying that she must maintain her coolness, that she cannot get involved to much, because she has duties to perform (being a single mother). But this would last for just 1-2 days usually and then we would be as usual.

A couple of weeks ago, something changed: after saying at night that we will buy a house together at some point (I was like.... whooo, that's big), next day she told me that she needs some time off, a few days. She was also a bit jealous - I was with a lady friend out of the city for 4 days, with whom I was romantically involved during the summer, but not now). I said OK, I'll give you space. When I came back ... she was still cold (told me she cannot continue like this, she cannot be in a relationship, she is changed after so many years of being single), but after seeing each other, she told me that she had missed me a lot...and we started talking like before for a few days

Then, almost all of a sudden, last Saturday, everything changed again, very distant, very cold, very cool. We talked about this today. Told me that she cant be in a relationship, that she likes being single, that she doesn't see her committed to somebody. I was like wtf, what were the last couple of months all about? She told me that that was her inlove mood, but cant continue like this. I asked her what if I will make her want to be in a relation? 'You can do whatever you like... but I don't think that I will be able to commit with anyone'. Her daughter loves me, her best friend likes me...

What do you think? Its that it? I don't know what to do... to continue pursuing her, or just forget it? Whats going on?

You can ask me anything, I might have forgotten so mention something...

Thanks!
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Well, I can see this going two ways.

1) She does have strong feelings for you, and they're throwing her off. It's probably been awhile before she's loved someone again, and these new found feelings are making her feel vulnerable. And being a single mother, it's very important to her that she feels a sense of stability. Things sound like they're moving pretty fast between you and her also, and change isn't something that Aquarius' are really accustomed to. My best advice is that you give her some space to evaluate her feelings for you. And if she does want a future with you, then with time she will let you know.

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2) It was just a fling. She at some point, had strong feelings for you and more than likely felt a connection, but she really does mean when she says "she likes being single, that she doesn't see her committed to somebody". If she means it, then she's already sifted through her feelings and what a future would be like with you and decided that it isn't what she wants.

It's really hard to give you advice on this, especially since she's an Aquarius. There's a chance she wants you to chase her, but chances are you'll suffocate her if you do. One things for sure though is that if you do pursue her, it won't be easy getting her to settle down.

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Thanks!

Yes, it might be both things. She told me she doesnt like to be vurnerable. Yes, and things got a little fast: a few weeks ago she tells me that she is not considering changing her job and moving to another country because of me... it's a big difference from where we are now...

on the other hand for me it feels like I want to take my toys and leave this! And she doesnt want that, she wants to be friends..

Yes, there is a connection. We can talk for hours and not get bored.

And she gives me hints that she wants me to chase her...

Pffff
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My Capricorn ex did something like this. After years together, she started talking about marriage, only to break up with me a few days later. She always said she didn't want to get married again after the first marriage ended in disaster, but that's just what people say and I didn't let it discourage me. Apparently, she meant it.

No Aquarius in her chart at all. I do attribute that behavior primarily to what happened in her past. We're still good friends, and the romantic overtones are still there from time to time, but I haven't tried too hard to get her back. I tried a little initially, but to no avail.
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Exactly this is what she told me... that she falls deep and doesn't like to feel vulnerable because she has many things on her mind, starting with her daughter. I told her that this things can be dealt in 2, she doesn't have to be alone.

She said that I'm not prepared for it now, that I have to grow alone, not helped by her, that I have to deal with my own issues and that she can help me as a friend. That was 1 month ago... in the mean time I told her that I love her (that's a biiiig thing for me to say).. and then we were perfect for 2-3 more weeks..

I didn't do any wrong move... I guess.

So, what's your advice?
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Posted by Amethysst
Aquas can go from making you feel loved and revolved into their world.. to complete ice and as there were no feelings to begin with. Let me ask you, that girl you had sexual encounters with did you make the trip while talking to aqua? And was aqua aware of it?
Well, the idea is that we both started this thing being or trying something with someone else. I was trying something with the girl from the trip, aqua was casual involved with someone else. That was 2 months ago.

In the meantime, she cut off with that guy, she stopped talking about him. I have done the same with mine, except that she is a good friend of mine, and the trip was planned to be kinda business like, long time ago.

The aqua even tested me: go to sleep at her (my friend) when my apartment was being repaired... of course I didn't.

And just when the trip started, the aqua told me to stop for a few days.. etc etc.
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Thank you.

To clarify some things: actually I got separated 7 months ago, and divorced for just 2 months. I dont know if I'm in for a relationship at the moment. The aqua said I'm not. But I'm damn sure I want to try it with her. I told her that. She made me feel incredible the last couple of months, like no-one before her. And to see her ice cold right now.... its breaking my heart. We had sex just once, was amazing. So she knows I dont want just that.

Yes, I got this friend (woman) who is into me, but there is nothing from my side.

"There are times I can feel my emotions taking over, to give him a chance but logically my mind will kick in and start thinking about all that could go wrong and it's too risky. " - this is exactly like her, as she told me.... We got to the point were we would chat all day long.. and missed each other the second we separate.

But for the past 4 days she's extremely cold... And I'm just puzzled. She says that she has her moments when she backs from the world... just her and her thoughts. What should I do? Should I be casual, should I tell her how I feel? Would that scare her, drive her out? Or... what??

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"She's Having doubts with you and it seems you don't make her feel completely stable. For an aqua to finally fall in love, we need full assurance of the othe persons feelings. There is no half way with us we need to know for sure you're ready to take the ride and start a life.. through thick and thin."

is it really this, or she really means what she says with she doesn't want a commitment with anyone because she feels very good by herself?
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Ok, so she is a very good friend of mine, we know each other for 15 years. 4 months ago she wanted something more. So we gave it a try. But I was not into it.. and told her that 2 months ago.. and we stayed friends as before. We booked that trip in October, she had some business there and wanted me to come along to help her. So that's why we went...

But 4-5 days before the trip, I told my aqua, very casual, that I'm gonna meet my friend to help her with something. Aqua tells me: it's the first time I feel sad because you spend time with her... and I left my friend to try to make peace with my aqua. And it worked.

After I came back from the trip, aqua was kinda sad, and backed a bit, but after we met, we were like before... for a few more days.. that was last week.
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I will try to make this as short as possible:

I'm Taurus, divorced for 7 months, she is an Aqua, divorced for 5-6 years, with a cute daughter. Since summer we've been interacting more and more, mainly online. We saw each other, but not so much. In the last 2-3 months things got very strong, very, very. She is extremely good with words, she rocked my world. We got to the point of falling in love with each other, she told me that a month ago, I told her the same. Everything was incredible with her, very attentive, very supportive, quite clingy I could say.

From time to time, when everything seemed to be going in the good direction, when we looked like a couple, she would take a step back, saying that she must maintain her coolness, that she cannot get involved to much, because she has duties to perform (being a single mother). But this would last for just 1-2 days usually and then we would be as usual.

A couple of weeks ago, something changed: after saying at night that we will buy a house together at some point (I was like.... whooo, that's big), next day she told me that she needs some time off, a few days. She was also a bit jealous - I was with a lady friend out of the city for 4 days, with whom I was romantically involved during the summer, but not now). I said OK, I'll give you space. When I came back ... she was still cold (told me she cannot continue like this, she cannot be in a relationship, she is changed after so many years of being single), but after seeing each other, she told me that she had missed me a lot...and we started talking like before for a few days

Then, almost all of a sudden, last Saturday, everything changed again, very distant, very cold, very cool. We talked about this today. Told me that she cant be in a relationship, that she likes being single, that she doesn't see her committed to somebody. I was like wtf, what were the last couple of months all about? She told me that that was her inlove mood, but cant continue like this. I asked her what if I will make her want to be in a relation? 'You can do whatever you like... but I don't think that I will be able to commit with anyone'. Her daughter loves me, her best friend likes me...

What do you think? Its that it? I don't know what to do... to continue pursuing her, or just forget it? Whats going on?

You can ask me anything, I might have forgotten so mention something...

Thanks!
Aquarious likes to have freedom and go with The flow, dont like to be controled and like talk things out instead to be left unsolved or get on with it!

There must be something what she cant decide on but probably decide on her happiness rather to be in The relationship which she feels is not right for her! She loves you and what she says it's true but she can't get her head around you for some emotional reason so she will feel lonely or pushed away cause maybe you don't listen and give her freedom of choice! Just what I think... a suggestion.

If you want to win her back you need to talk to her what is it she doesn't like and communicate as much as possible! Do you take her out often? Do you compromise and sucrifice yourself and time for her? Do you hear and answer to everything she talks about?

Maybe it's not you, maybe she feels pressure around the work and beeing a parent! She will never show her real emotions as Aquarius are self content and if she have any problem she would deal with it herself even sometimes not telling anyone!

You just need to become friend and give her time and when you have that evening together sitting and sipping tea, it would be wise for you to listen what she wants to say
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Exactly this is what she told me... that she falls deep and doesn't like to feel vulnerable because she has many things on her mind, starting with her daughter. I told her that this things can be dealt in 2, she doesn't have to be alone.

She said that I'm not prepared for it now, that I have to grow alone, not helped by her, that I have to deal with my own issues and that she can help me as a friend. That was 1 month ago... in the mean time I told her that I love her (that's a biiiig thing for me to say).. and then we were perfect for 2-3 more weeks..

I didn't do any wrong move... I guess.

So, what's your advice?
A big friend of mine is aqua

she fell for her bf because he was there even when she didn't behave in the kindest way.

In the beginning she had her mind somewhere else and he told her he likes her as person and he showed her he just didn't change his mind easily. He's a scorpio.

I must say, from experience, they are not the most affectionate partner. They use to mind for their own things...

Since I know her she's been in few relationships and she doesn't speak a lot about those things..but I know she's really challenging and demanding. She's also interesting and good as a person!

But I'm not sure I would fight hard to be in a romantic relationship with an aqua..

Once I had a crush, he stopped to hang out with me when he get in touch with an ex. After few months we where about hang out again and at the time he had a gf.. I was really disappointed to discover it, he eventually married her.

My gf as well are not totally focus on her bf all the time, she flirt or make network. Her contacts will be useful for when she will eventually be single again, that's the idea. If I discover a such thing from my partner I would find it sooo bad. From my point of view it isn't be loyal.
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Ok, so she is a very good friend of mine, we know each other for 15 years. 4 months ago she wanted something more. So we gave it a try. But I was not into it.. and told her that 2 months ago.. and we stayed friends as before. We booked that trip in October, she had some business there and wanted me to come along to help her. So that's why we went...

But 4-5 days before the trip, I told my aqua, very casual, that I'm gonna meet my friend to help her with something. Aqua tells me: it's the first time I feel sad because you spend time with her... and I left my friend to try to make peace with my aqua. And it worked.

After I came back from the trip, aqua was kinda sad, and backed a bit, but after we met, we were like before... for a few more days.. that was last week.
This is where you fucked up.. good friend for 15 years tried to make it something more it didn't work out on YOUR part but aqua is fully aware that your friend clearly still has feelings for you.

Aqua women don't have the time and nonsense for competition. We'll completely back off and think "she can have him, I got better things to do". She's probably going back and forth because she may very well love you but doesn't want to deal with the friend on the side who could be a future potential home wrecker.

Think about it like this;

You guys get serious, move in together your involved with her and her daughter, your a family now. Aqua trusts you with your "friend" and has devoted her love to you. You and your friend are still close, go on a business trip together again, things happen and you sleep with her.. than what? As a bull man, you can be very private and secretive. You probably wouldn't tell her but her intuition is high and she knows.. she's probably thought about all the mishaps that can happen in the relationship and backed off.

The problem isn't your friendship, the real problem is that you became intimate with her. No matter how much you avoid it or try not to think about it, you were more than friends. That puts the relationship at risk if you keep being close friends with her. Aqua doesn't feel secure with you, there's a possibility for cheating.

Personally, I wouldn't trust you either.
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This! My Aqua would be ICE cold if I went out with an ex or someone I knew had a sexual interest in me.

They are sensitive. And like most "logic" signs they mirror behavior to convey emotion. And in Aqua case they expect you to mirror them or offer an iron-clad explanation. Your actions say she is not a priority.

Did you really need to go out of town with your friend to offer help? Did you plan that trip when you where romantically involved? It doesn't bother you that your friend pounced as soon as your marriage ended?

Also, liking how someone makes you feel and really appreciating them for who they are as an individual are different.

You've said a lot about how she makes you feel and not much about HER.

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This sounds like me.. single aqua mother.. it's hard and your child always comes first. I keep myself at a distance for the fear of another man breaking my heart because when I finally fall in love.. I fall DEEP.

To me it's like a dance, we both take steps to make beautiful movements but once he makes a wrong move, everything falls apart and I'm out.
I am also a single aqua mother, I have two daughters and I was in a 11 yr relationship, then a 4 month (where I realized I wasn't ready to be in a relationship that soon). Now I met another good guy, it's been 4 months but I can say that I am scared of falling too hard for him, at the same time I'm hesitating whether he would give me the future I want and what kind of partner he would be.

If I am in a relationship, is to be with that person and support him, that's why is hard to settle down for us bc we want the same support.

She would love surprises and getaways!!!
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OK, thanks everyone. But ... what should I do now? I understand that I did a mistake by going out of town with my friend, although nothing happened.

But, what now? She is driving me nuts with her coldness. We talk, but she is very very distant. She says that she is going through some days when she wants to be with herself. But also she says that she feels very good alone and doesnt want to get more involved, she cannot. But she would like me to chase her...

Now what? I really like her a lot..
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You've said a lot about how she makes you feel and not much about HER.

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Yes, that's right. I told you how she makes me feel: AMAZING.

She is the best woman I have ever met. And if this is not enough about her... she is very smart, intuitive, cool, rational (too rational), can be very very loving (she showed me this the last couple of months), very good mother...
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Some texts from her during the last months:

"We have a lot of the ingredients to pass a 50+ years relationship."

"Where ever this will lead.. friends, lovers, gf, wife... im happy to have met you."

"Its very hard for me to be cold with you. I have to impose to myself not to be warm and affective."

"I dont think that I can go on like this. We are in a grey area: more then friends, less then lovers, and its killing me."

"If we are meant to be...we ll be together no matter what one day"

"You know what: we have just one life, I wont deny my feelings. I feel that I have to spend time with you. I want you close. I'll assume my sufferings".



Those texts are from one and a half - 2 months ago.. Just a couple of weeks.. and see how she changes.. Almost each time she backed, she was the one to come back.



Besides... almost everyday that she misses me, that Im perfect etc etc.

This was until last week...

She drives me nuts 🙂)))
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You've said a lot about how she makes you feel and not much about HER.




Yes, that's right. I told you how she makes me feel: AMAZING.

She is the best woman I have ever met. And if this is not enough about her... she is very smart, intuitive, cool, rational (too rational), can be very very loving (she showed me this the last couple of months), very good mother...
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I didn't mean to be overly harsh or imply you don't care for her but you are in the rebound phase, and have yet to be single for a significant period of time.

She is in a very different emotional place. And it is important that you are 100% sure this is more than "pain relief" or a distraction for you.
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@Bav

I'm Aquarius and was dating a Taurus. Let me ask you something does she know that you were with this "lady friend"? sorry to say but if she knows then you raise a red flag in her eye's. We tend to not be so open about our feelings and if we do and we see the person is taking that for granted we back off! Hence being cold. How would you feel if she was with an ex? When we do love it's deep!
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OK, thanks everyone. But ... what should I do now? I understand that I did a mistake by going out of town with my friend, although nothing happened.

But, what now? She is driving me nuts with her coldness. We talk, but she is very very distant. She says that she is going through some days when she wants to be with herself. But also she says that she feels very good alone and doesnt want to get more involved, she cannot. But she would like me to chase her...

Now what? I really like her a lot..
Ignore her coldness, the coldness isn’t important. The little things you do is important. Instead of talking, arguing and figuring out your problems, you better stay around and make effect by doing a little things for her. A kind, unselfish and sincere things without any expectations for reward. This kind of behaviour will never overlooked by Aquarians and at the end of the day you may win her over. If you have a strength and patience to show her that you are worth to be with, she may accept you.

Of course, you do realize, that this is a lot of work 🙂
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I'm doing this 🙂 I am like that.. I love doing little things and really just for the "thank you". 🙂 I did this yesterday... small thing for her. She really seemed she was happy about it. But now.. still cold.. doesn't initiate much and its frustrating.
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Either she meant what she said or she's incredibly controlling. In either case you've only got the option to keep being yourself, tell her what you want one time only and be patient. You'll find out where the truth lies in time.
This is exactly how I will do, I dont want to pressure anything. Its driving me nuts and this doesnt do me good.
Well what are your issues? There were some things you didn't elaborate on with the full story and, in fairness to you, no one here bothered to ask.



"She said that I'm not prepared for it now, that I have to grow alone, not helped by her, that I have to deal with my own issues and that she can help me as a friend"



What did she mean by your issues? And why would she refer to you as "more than friends less than lovers"? Was that her decision to be less than lovers, yours or mutual?
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I got divorced 2 months ago, after being separated since May. Me and aqua started to flirt since June. She knew my ex, she knew what was going on. (at one time, this summer, she said that she wanted to text me in the evenings, but couldn't because of my wife; also she said that she had a crush on me last year and when we finally slept together it was like a dream coming true for her.... her words).

The divorce was not very easy for me... because you know... you get used to the person after a few years... The aqua was there for me... jokingly said she wants to come with me when me and the ex have to sign the papers.

This was the main issue.. I guess.. I don't have any feelings for my ex, not one.

I cannot motivate myself doing things all the time, like I want to. With her Im very different, she motivates me.

Actually re-reading what she said then was a bit different:

'No ego, just reasoning, we take things step by step. You have to be on your own two feet, to deal with the things you have to deal with and then come to me to offer. Now you need to grow. not through me, because this would be the easy way, but it would be cheating.'

When I ask her out that evening she said she doesn't want to, because I would mess her up...

'More than friends, less than lovers' was what she said at some point when she backed away. But at that point it was true.. I didn't wanted a relationship, but we were almost like in one. We talked all day, very affectionate. We met for a weekend at a resort, she was with her daughter.. we were exactly like a family.

Now I want to start something here, but she says she likes being single, but we still talk, she wants to see me, but it is very very casual, very different from the last couple of months.

I hope I made it clearer now..

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I did what I had to to, I texted her last night some things: I don't believe that she really wants to be all alone, its just that she doesn't think Im ready for it and not sure of how I feel. I told her that I really know how I feel now and I want to be with her and her daughter, cause she is the best woman I've seen ever. No one else interests me and she's no pain relief. But we'll take things slow, no deep feelings, casual and friendly for now. And also that her emotional distance its perceived like a rejection. And if that is true.. then that's it, I get it, if not we should move on... baby steps.

Here is 15:30 now. She saw the texts in the morning. No reaction, not one. So... I guess thats it. 😢
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@Bav

Just give her some time to think. She'll respond. I'm on the same boat my Taurus was with someone for 14yrs.. She's having mix emotions right now. I love my Taurus man but I haven't been open to say that as of yet because I'm wondering if I'm just a rebound or if he is just in love with the idea of being on love. He has been great with me and my daughter as well but, I wonder at times if he just needs time to grow from his last relationship. You've stated to her how you felt. That's all you can do proceed as a friend. We love to feel like we can have a friend and lover.
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Just give her some time to think. She'll respond. I'm on the same boat my Taurus was with someone for 14yrs.. She's having mix emotions right now. I love my Taurus man but I haven't been open to say that as of yet because I'm wondering if I'm just a rebound or if he is just in love with the idea of being on love. He has been great with me and my daughter as well but, I wonder at times if he just needs time to grow from his last relationship. You've stated to her how you felt. That's all you can do proceed as a friend. We love to feel like we can have a friend and lover.
Our stories are similar... Thinking now of all that she said in the last months.. wow.. she is (or was) into me.. And as sometimes we all do.. didn't see it right.

When did he break up with his ex? How long have you been dating? How ofter do you see each other? What are you going to do?
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You need to understand the vulnerability of aquas when we fall in love, we are detached and have our head in the clouds but love pulls us down to the ground and we get dirty, dealing with emotions gets messy for us because we spend a good chunk of our lives overlooking and not tending to our own emotional needs. For her to say that she loves you is a huge deal, then you go on a holiday with a chick you used to bang last summer? If she had any dignity in her she should have just cut you off then and there because you obviously don't know how to handle someone who is making themselves vulnerable to you. I think she would be thinking you're a bad investment in her future and you're only gonna cause more trouble, for the sake of your kids you should find a Scorpio, aquas and taureans dont get along.
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I hope it works out for you. I think patience is key and whatever you do don't go pressing for a response.

At the same time I don't think Taurus and Aquarius are a good match. I'm an Taurus sun and aqua moon and suspect the combo makes me a little crazy lol.

I have 3 female best friend Aquarius and im not sure why we work but I know I always feel bad for any guy they date. And I'd never set them up with a guy I care about. I don't think they make the best girlfriends. Not saying that that's actually true but from my Taurus heart it is. They're fickle and they like to play games. They're petty and jealous but don't know how to recognize their own feelings so they put it all on their s/o. Even when they realize they're wrong abt things they'll confide in a friend (me) but won't admit it to u. They're not above using people but won't ever call it that cuz they can justify everything they do. Just run. Be friends at most.
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I hope it works out for you. I think patience is key and whatever you do don't go pressing for a response.

At the same time I don't think Taurus and Aquarius are a good match. I'm an Taurus sun and aqua moon and suspect the combo makes me a little crazy lol.

I have 3 female best friend Aquarius and im not sure why we work but I know I always feel bad for any guy they date. And I'd never set them up with a guy I care about. I don't think they make the best girlfriends. Not saying that that's actually true but from my Taurus heart it is. They're fickle and they like to play games. They're petty and jealous but don't know how to recognize their own feelings so they put it all on their s/o. Even when they realize they're wrong abt things they'll confide in a friend (me) but won't admit it to u. They're not above using people but won't ever call it that cuz they can justify everything they do. Just run. Be friends at most.
Every Aquarius is different, different placements. I had a great relationship with my ex Taurus man but unfortunately he moved back to his home state and the distance killed it. She has every right to feel this way, A true good single mother isn't going to let her guard down just like that.. add that to an Aquarius woman who is naturally guarded.

That trip wasn't a good idea and if you were in her place, you wouldn't feel secure either. Personally, it's not about mind games, it's about not placing your heart into the wrong hands..
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I would definitely not be secure with the guy who I'm dating taking a trip with that girl. But I'd tell him straight up and if he did it anyway I'd take a step back knowing that he doesn't respect my feelings.

What I won't do is keep it to myself (slash tell everyone else) and then feel like he doesn't respect my feelings when I haven't been honest abt my feelings. And THEN make him pay hell for hurting my feelings that I wasn't honest about in the first place. At the same time acting innocent and like their s/o is being paranoid or needy for wanting to know what's up. It seems like a game to me.

But I think they like to be closer about their feelings with friends and have a "relationship" relationship with their men if that makes any sense. I'm the opposite - my man would know me deeper than any friend. To me that's love.
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You need to understand the vulnerability of aquas when we fall in love, we are detached and have our head in the clouds but love pulls us down to the ground and we get dirty, dealing with emotions gets messy for us because we spend a good chunk of our lives overlooking and not tending to our own emotional needs. For her to say that she loves you is a huge deal, then you go on a holiday with a chick you used to bang last summer? If she had any dignity in her she should have just cut you off then and there because you obviously don't know how to handle someone who is making themselves vulnerable to you. I think she would be thinking you're a bad investment in her future and you're only gonna cause more trouble, for the sake of your kids you should find a Scorpio, aquas and taureans dont get along.
For the sake of the argument, it was not a holiday. For her it was a business trip and she wanted me to come along to help her with something. The plans were made 2 months before. And I'm not involved with her... It was just a fling a few months ago, although she keeps clinging to me now. My aqua knows the story..

But yes, I shouldn't have gone in that trip. Its true... A week before the trip, I told her that I would meet with my lady friend. The aqua said that its the first time she doesn't like that, me spending time with my friend and that she needs to take a step back to analyse her feelings... I canceled the meeting with my friend and chased the aqua through the city...
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So... she is in the very different place.. emotionally! very detached and distant and cold... pfffff

After all the things I texted her, she asked me last night if I want to talk over the phone after she puts her daughter to bed. I said ok, but she fell asleep before we could talk..nothing new here, it happens.

And today I asked her out, but of course she is busy ....

"there are 2 of me fighting inside of me: one that is warm and the other that is cold. I cannot stay cold to you". she told me that a few weeks ago.

Well... things are changing. she just got detached from me. very.
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Either she meant what she said or she's incredibly controlling. In either case you've only got the option to keep being yourself, tell her what you want one time only and be patient. You'll find out where the truth lies in time.
This is exactly how I will do, I dont want to pressure anything. Its driving me nuts and this doesnt do me good.
Well what are your issues? There were some things you didn't elaborate on with the full story and, in fairness to you, no one here bothered to ask.



"She said that I'm not prepared for it now, that I have to grow alone, not helped by her, that I have to deal with my own issues and that she can help me as a friend"



What did she mean by your issues? And why would she refer to you as "more than friends less than lovers"? Was that her decision to be less than lovers, yours or mutual?


I got divorced 2 months ago, after being separated since May. Me and aqua started to flirt since June. She knew my ex, she knew what was going on. (at one time, this summer, she said that she wanted to text me in the evenings, but couldn't because of my wife; also she said that she had a crush on me last year and when we finally slept together it was like a dream coming true for her.... her words).

The divorce was not very easy for me... because you know... you get used to the person after a few years... The aqua was there for me... jokingly said she wants to come with me when me and the ex have to sign the papers.

This was the main issue.. I guess.. I don't have any feelings for my ex, not one.

I cannot motivate myself doing things all the time, like I want to. With her Im very different, she motivates me.

Actually re-reading what she said then was a bit different:

'No ego, just reasoning, we take things step by step. You have to be on your own two feet, to deal with the things you have to deal with and then come to me to offer. Now you need to grow. not through me, because this would be the easy way, but it would be cheating.'

When I ask her out that evening she said she doesn't want to, because I would mess her up...


'More than friends, less than lovers' was what she said at some point when she backed away. But at that point it was true.. I didn't wanted a relationship, but we were almost like in one. We talked all day, very affectionate. We met for a weekend at a resort, she was with her daughter.. we were exactly like a family.

Now I want to start something here, but she says she likes being single, but we still talk, she wants to see me, but it is very very casual, very different from the last couple of months.

I hope I made it clearer now..

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She doesn't want to be your rebound, the part i bolded was what she said? To me that reads that she's afraid to get hurt and be your rebound or you go back to your ex wife. What happneed in her past? Why is she a single mom? that may play a role in all this.

The coldness and backoff is a tell tell sign that she is protecting herself. She has feelings that are very real and for most Aquas that will scare the hell out of us. We will sacrifice that to protect our sanity. It's stupid but it's a built in thing for many of us. Self preservation and all. For years, I vowed, better to be safe behind the walls I built than to put my heart on the line and get it stomped on. Fear is a funny thing. Especially fear of the unknown .. the unknown being what will you do with my heart ( or in her case, her heart).
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Either she meant what she said or she's incredibly controlling. In either case you've only got the option to keep being yourself, tell her what you want one time only and be patient. You'll find out where the truth lies in time.
This is exactly how I will do, I dont want to pressure anything. Its driving me nuts and this doesnt do me good.
Well what are your issues? There were some things you didn't elaborate on with the full story and, in fairness to you, no one here bothered to ask.



"She said that I'm not prepared for it now, that I have to grow alone, not helped by her, that I have to deal with my own issues and that she can help me as a friend"



What did she mean by your issues? And why would she refer to you as "more than friends less than lovers"? Was that her decision to be less than lovers, yours or mutual?


I got divorced 2 months ago, after being separated since May. Me and aqua started to flirt since June. She knew my ex, she knew what was going on. (at one time, this summer, she said that she wanted to text me in the evenings, but couldn't because of my wife; also she said that she had a crush on me last year and when we finally slept together it was like a dream coming true for her.... her words).

The divorce was not very easy for me... because you know... you get used to the person after a few years... The aqua was there for me... jokingly said she wants to come with me when me and the ex have to sign the papers.

This was the main issue.. I guess.. I don't have any feelings for my ex, not one.

I cannot motivate myself doing things all the time, like I want to. With her Im very different, she motivates me.

Actually re-reading what she said then was a bit different:

'No ego, just reasoning, we take things step by step. You have to be on your own two feet, to deal with the things you have to deal with and then come to me to offer. Now you need to grow. not through me, because this would be the easy way, but it would be cheating.'

When I ask her out that evening she said she doesn't want to, because I would mess her up...


'More than friends, less than lovers' was what she said at some point when she backed away. But at that point it was true.. I didn't wanted a relationship, but we were almost like in one. We talked all day, very affectionate. We met for a weekend at a resort, she was with her daughter.. we were exactly like a family.

Now I want to start something here, but she says she likes being single, but we still talk, she wants to see me, but it is very very casual, very different from the last couple of months.

I hope I made it clearer now..


She doesn't want to be your rebound, the part i bolded was what she said? To me that reads that she's afraid to get hurt and be your rebound or you go back to your ex wife. What happneed in her past? Why is she a single mom? that may play a role in all this.

The coldness and backoff is a tell tell sign that she is protecting herself. She has feelings that are very real and for most Aquas that will scare the hell out of us. We will sacrifice that to protect our sanity. It's stupid but it's a built in thing for many of us. Self preservation and all. For years, I vowed, better to be safe behind the walls I built than to put my heart on the line and get it stomped on. Fear is a funny thing. Especially fear of the unknown .. the unknown being what will you do with my heart ( or in her case, her heart).

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Yes, that is probably true.. she doesn't want to get hurt. She told me at some point that she is running from getting hurt not from me. She was cheated on and abused by her ex husband.. and she had some not-so-good relationships after her husband. And all these experiences made her extremely detached and not wanting anything more than just f**king friends. Until me... This is what she said. And these new feelings freaks her out. Her words...

And yes... she is not sure about me... Or it could be what she said, that she like to be single, she doesn't want anything serious with anyone... God knows.. All I know is that I want her. told her that
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Is there anything else that might have caused her to act this cold?

Im a scorpio and she is a lot like me actually.. its very hard for me to decide whether i should trust someone. But i have aries moon and i cant keep it in i usually tell whats on my mind in the end.

Have you told her about your past relationships or talked about your exes a lot maybe? Or about other women? And do you have lots of women on your social media ? Or do you have photos still up with your exes on fb?

Anything that could have made her feel insecure or that she cant trust you.. including that trip.

You could mention that trip to her and anything else you think you werent good enough.. and tell her you feel like you should have treated her better and wish that she gave you another chance... so you could treat her even better coz thats what she deserves... or something along those lines.
I don't have fb. lol 🙂)... so nothing there. There is something else... that I totally forgot, because its not important to me now.

You see.. I had 2 women I was very much in love with, years ago. One was my friend, with whom we tried something a few months ago, didn't work (Im not into it now), but she still likes me, and we talk as friends (we have been friends for 15 years). The other one was a Virgo, that was a crush for a year, 6-7 years ago.

Both of them wanted something with me... at the same time, after I got separated from my wife. And aqua was the third... soon this changed and I don't talk with the Virgo... no feelings left there. Same with my friend, no feelings, but we talk often.

I know, I know, you're gonna say that Im messed up and she sees that and that's why her attitude... Now I really know what I want.
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I hope it works out for you. I think patience is key and whatever you do don't go pressing for a response.

At the same time I don't think Taurus and Aquarius are a good match. I'm an Taurus sun and aqua moon and suspect the combo makes me a little crazy lol.

I have 3 female best friend Aquarius and im not sure why we work but I know I always feel bad for any guy they date. And I'd never set them up with a guy I care about. I don't think they make the best girlfriends. Not saying that that's actually true but from my Taurus heart it is. They're fickle and they like to play games. They're petty and jealous but don't know how to recognize their own feelings so they put it all on their s/o. Even when they realize they're wrong abt things they'll confide in a friend (me) but won't admit it to u. They're not above using people but won't ever call it that cuz they can justify everything they do. Just run. Be friends at most.
My goodness with a friend like you who needs enemies?.

As far as taurus and aquarius not being a good match my first true love is one and I love him til this day and he loves me as well. Circumstances in my personal life at the time caused us not to be together. We never fought not once. He is the only man that I can genuinely say loves all of me unconditionally so there are some who can and do work.
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Lol I can admit I came across harsh. It kept happening to me yesterday. But trust me, I'm more gentle in person.

My observations might come through like "why can't u just tell him how u feel" "are u sure he knows" or "are u sure u even like him" bc as her friend, I want her to be happy. Over time tho, I've learned that aqua girls (in my experience) don't like to discuss their feelings too much with their guys but like to get it out with loaded (passive) statements and actions. I think that works perfect for sags and others who also communicate that way but it's hard on a Taurus.

I'll also say that each friendship is at least a decade in the making, one more than 2 decades so I know these relationships can last. But while I usually play the confidant, I've learned the hard way that I can't rely on an aqua girl to fully understand or respect the range of my feelings (they spend too much time justifying) so that the relationship usually ends up unbalanced and needs a reset. To me that works with friendships but not so much in relationships.
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I hope it works out for you. I think patience is key and whatever you do don't go pressing for a response.

At the same time I don't think Taurus and Aquarius are a good match. I'm an Taurus sun and aqua moon and suspect the combo makes me a little crazy lol.

I have 3 female best friend Aquarius and im not sure why we work but I know I always feel bad for any guy they date. And I'd never set them up with a guy I care about. I don't think they make the best girlfriends. Not saying that that's actually true but from my Taurus heart it is. They're fickle and they like to play games. They're petty and jealous but don't know how to recognize their own feelings so they put it all on their s/o. Even when they realize they're wrong abt things they'll confide in a friend (me) but won't admit it to u. They're not above using people but won't ever call it that cuz they can justify everything they do. Just run. Be friends at most.
My goodness with a friend like you who needs enemies?.

As far as taurus and aquarius not being a good match my first true love is one and I love him til this day and he loves me as well. Circumstances in my personal life at the time caused us not to be together. We never fought not once. He is the only man that I can genuinely say loves all of me unconditionally so there are some who can and do work.
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Why can't you be together?
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I'm an Aqua woman, I posted here before about how indecisive we might be when it comes to relationships.

my bes friend is a Taurus male. We have been friends for about 10 yrs but got closer as friends in the last 3 or 4 yrs.

We tell each other everything and talk about our love life, people we date, we joke etc. We can be very sarcastic and we have never gotten mad at each other for long.. if we do we get past it right away...

I will not be in a relationship with him because I already know him too well. i look for people I can learn and analyze their personality, but like the other user said, we get obsessed over some guys sometimes. it has happened 3 times to me this year.

I would talk and say how much I love a guy but then I can also cut them off easy.

I have been separated for a year, and I would say that you shouldn't start a relationship so soon.

right after my separation I met a libra guy, he would bring me down the stars and moon if I wanted to. He showed me what a gentleman would do to care for his girl, I couldn't deny that I "loved" him, he had to move to FL 3 months after we reconnected but I was clear with him, I only wanted FWB. He tried so hard to show me he was in love with me, even though he was in FL, he came and stayed with me for valentine's day..but I never accepted be his gf because I didn't see a future with him.

I finally told him after 4 months that it wasn't going anywhere and that we should stop being so lovable. but I wanted to keep the friendship, I wanted to keep knowing about his life and talk to him every day. .but a couple of weeks later he met someone and stopped all communication with me. I don't know if he saw her as a rebound but it hurt me a lot to see that he left me completely to be with her. All I wanted was his friendship and keep him close bc of our feelings, now I had to cut him off completely and we become ice to do this. He broke up with the girl after 5 months and now he wants to get back in my life... I HONESTLY DO NOT FEEL ANYTHING TOWARDS HIM ANYMORE. I just stopped answering to his texts bc I didn't care.

We cut people off completely. but I'm glad I realized that I shouldn't be in a relationship too soon after the separation, is easy to get attached to the first person that lends you a shoulder to cry on.
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I hope it works out for you. I think patience is key and whatever you do don't go pressing for a response.

At the same time I don't think Taurus and Aquarius are a good match. I'm an Taurus sun and aqua moon and suspect the combo makes me a little crazy lol.

I have 3 female best friend Aquarius and im not sure why we work but I know I always feel bad for any guy they date. And I'd never set them up with a guy I care about. I don't think they make the best girlfriends. Not saying that that's actually true but from my Taurus heart it is. They're fickle and they like to play games. They're petty and jealous but don't know how to recognize their own feelings so they put it all on their s/o. Even when they realize they're wrong abt things they'll confide in a friend (me) but won't admit it to u. They're not above using people but won't ever call it that cuz they can justify everything they do. Just run. Be friends at most.
My goodness with a friend like you who needs enemies?.

As far as taurus and aquarius not being a good match my first true love is one and I love him til this day and he loves me as well. Circumstances in my personal life at the time caused us not to be together. We never fought not once. He is the only man that I can genuinely say loves all of me unconditionally so there are some who can and do work.
Lol I can admit I came across harsh. It kept happening to me yesterday. But trust me, I'm more gentle in person.

My observations might come through like "why can't u just tell him how u feel" "are u sure he knows" or "are u sure u even like him" bc as her friend, I want her to be happy. Over time tho, I've learned that aqua girls (in my experience) don't like to discuss their feelings too much with their guys but like to get it out with loaded (passive) statements and actions. I think that works perfect for sags and others who also communicate that way but it's hard on a Taurus.

I'll also say that each friendship is at least a decade in the making, one more than 2 decades so I know these relationships can last. But while I usually play the confidant, I've learned the hard way that I can't rely on an aqua girl to fully understand or respect the range of my feelings (they spend too much time justifying) so that the relationship usually ends up unbalanced and needs a reset. To me that works with friendships but not so much in relationships.


It's okay I understand.

I agree with everything you said here about Aquarius except for the passive part. I think me having a sag moon might be why I disagree with it. I am very straight forward sometimes a little to blunt which can sometimes turn people off who are more passive. One thing I have learned from Taurus/Aquarius relationships is that we're more alike than we like to admit. We can both be stubborn. We can both be a bit....controlling and head strong. Trust me your friends understand you a lot more emotionally than they let on. We tend to keep our feelings a bit more hidden but secretly we admire those who are better at verbalizing it.

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Oh we're soo alike. That's for sure. But I think we love differently. I know my girls get me with most things which is why learning that I can't fully trust them with my feelings took so long and was so hard. They just might not wanna deal with w/it for right now or ever. That'll hurt more than the thing I was going thru in the first place.

What I realize is that Taurus has a sense of obligation to our loved ones that I think Aquarius likes but can't give back. And can maybe even do without. I dk if we can and we expect what we give out.

I dk if I'm sounding snarky again lol. I can't tell anymore but if I am I don't mean it, I'm just hungry.
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I'm an Aqua woman, I posted here before about how indecisive we might be when it comes to relationships.

my bes friend is a Taurus male. We have been friends for about 10 yrs but got closer as friends in the last 3 or 4 yrs.

We tell each other everything and talk about our love life, people we date, we joke etc. We can be very sarcastic and we have never gotten mad at each other for long.. if we do we get past it right away...

I will not be in a relationship with him because I already know him too well. i look for people I can learn and analyze their personality, but like the other user said, we get obsessed over some guys sometimes. it has happened 3 times to me this year.

I would talk and say how much I love a guy but then I can also cut them off easy.

I have been separated for a year, and I would say that you shouldn't start a relationship so soon.

right after my separation I met a libra guy, he would bring me down the stars and moon if I wanted to. He showed me what a gentleman would do to care for his girl, I couldn't deny that I "loved" him, he had to move to FL 3 months after we reconnected but I was clear with him, I only wanted FWB. He tried so hard to show me he was in love with me, even though he was in FL, he came and stayed with me for valentine's day..but I never accepted be his gf because I didn't see a future with him.

I finally told him after 4 months that it wasn't going anywhere and that we should stop being so lovable. but I wanted to keep the friendship, I wanted to keep knowing about his life and talk to him every day. .but a couple of weeks later he met someone and stopped all communication with me. I don't know if he saw her as a rebound but it hurt me a lot to see that he left me completely to be with her. All I wanted was his friendship and keep him close bc of our feelings, now I had to cut him off completely and we become ice to do this. He broke up with the girl after 5 months and now he wants to get back in my life... I HONESTLY DO NOT FEEL ANYTHING TOWARDS HIM ANYMORE. I just stopped answering to his texts bc I didn't care.

We cut people off completely. but I'm glad I realized that I shouldn't be in a relationship too soon after the separation, is easy to get attached to the first person that lends you a shoulder to cry on.
Why would you want that?? If you knew that the guy was in love with you, why would you want to be just friends?.. don't you think that is bad for him?? I mean.. he loved you and talking to you every day would make him think that you want more from him... This is what I would think!!

And why did you think that it was not going anywhere? Practical reasons or you just felt that way?

You know... yesterday I told my aqua some big words... one of them was that I perceive her emotional distance from the last week as a rejection and its true... then thats it, if not, we should move forward in building something.

After 24h she says that we can talk over the phone at night, because she is busy during the day. I told her that we don't have to, if she doesn't want to. Her reply: but I really want to!!

OK... so wtf?! if you don't want something with a guy that YOU KNOW he loves you, then just let him go, no friendship, no nothing... otherwise its hard for him, you drive him insane... Its like quitting smoking... you just stop completely , you don't decrease the number of cigarettes....
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Personally, what I've found with Aqua woman is that you have to give them that space. In a way you have to replicate the feelings they portray. My experience so far has led me to believe Aqua women speak their mind. You'll know if it's ended and there is nothing to persue or wait for even.

I'm kind of in the situation you are but without a child added into the mix. That makes it harder.

Just give her time and space and if it's meant to be it will. Do not force anything or make her feel pressured.
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Personally, what I've found with Aqua woman is that you have to give them that space. In a way you have to replicate the feelings they portray. My experience so far has led me to believe Aqua women speak their mind. You'll know if it's ended and there is nothing to persue or wait for even.

I'm kind of in the situation you are but without a child added into the mix. That makes it harder.

Just give her time and space and if it's meant to be it will. Do not force anything or make her feel pressured.
I just don't want to be dragged in a never ending story... being too friendly and casual....where at some point she finds someone and I look like a sucker for still having feelings for her.

So, what she's doing now... after I told her veeeery specific what I want & need... should that be taken as a sign she wants something??

We talk ... casual... a bit loving... but not like we used to until last week.
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The situation I'm in is the same. We spoke everyday, she initiated everything, as did I. She started a new job which has taken aother of her time. But like yourself she has mentioned how she feels for me. Given how others have described it's to a t.

Sounds like she cares for you. So you have 2 choices. You can either walk away from it. Or respect her wishes, be a friend, keep things light, be independant, don't nag.

Have you remembered anything she likes, finds funny? Have in common? These small things without expecting anything show you know her or have the interest in getting to know her. Introduce her to new things! But take it real slow. End of the day, it's her way or the high way. If you feel she is the one and worth the effort, proceed. I know it will be worth it from my position. Dowe to you. The ball is really in your court.

I'm only giving you what is working for me.
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The situation I'm in is the same. We spoke everyday, she initiated everything, as did I. She started a new job which has taken aother of her time. But like yourself she has mentioned how she feels for me. Given how others have described it's to a t.

Sounds like she cares for you. So you have 2 choices. You can either walk away from it. Or respect her wishes, be a friend, keep things light, be independant, don't nag.

Have you remembered anything she likes, finds funny? Have in common? These small things without expecting anything show you know her or have the interest in getting to know her. Introduce her to new things! But take it real slow. End of the day, it's her way or the high way. If you feel she is the one and worth the effort, proceed. I know it will be worth it from my position. Dowe to you. The ball is really in your court.

I'm only giving you what is working for me.
🙂 I remember a lot of things she likes... We have a lot in common. 'We are congruent' is what she said... And that 'we have a most of the things that will take us to +50 years of relationship'... that was a few weeks ago.

Im usually very attentive with what my s/o wants and needs.. If she is my s/o. If its only a friend... not so much. I get your point anyway. Thank you!

She wants to meet tomorrow evening to give me a piece of the pie that she and her daughter baked for Christmas 🙂

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9 Years

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Posted by Londonelixer
To me that would point to a good sign. Just keep it light and easy going!

I hope it goes well 2moro for you ?
Well, there was no date. We chatted a bit in the evening (WhatsApp) and asked her about that cake... she didn't answer and changed the subject. At some point she said she misses London and I told her lets go there for your birthday (1/31). She said she will go somewhere for her birthday, alone! Because she has closed herself a lot, doesn't know why. I told her I think I know why you did this - her answer: "I don't think you know, even I don't know why, but its like never before, I have no feelings, not one, Im immune, its just me and my daughter now. Big walls around me..."

I texted her that I know she will come back at some point. I will let her be for now. To realise what are her feelings for me. I know what my feelings for her are.

Weird people! 🙂)))
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