Aquarius Sun Libra Moon says I love you at the end of relationship?

Is this just a way of saying good bye?

Lol I hate them

Posted by brianafay
Lol I hate them

Lmao

Posted by brianafay
Lol I hate them

LOL! but seriously this is how much he struggles with intimacy. He had a whole day and a half to some how communicate to me that his grandmother had died. We had been talking about it and I was fully in the loop on it. Then we have an argument over communication because he said I could come over and we could talk about it, but when it was time to talk about it he shut down 15 minutes into the conversation saying he couldn't explain and that sometimes I am just oblivious and I have to help him explain, then it was that I just was not gonna understand he understands why can't I? Anyone else would understand why can't I? Then it was he can't talk about this he needed to sleep now. So this hurt me and I began to cry then I slept on the couch and I couldn't get comfortable on the couch so I got my stuff and left.

So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

Posted by saggurl88
So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

So I was a bitch in hine site by doing it this way, but in reality we trigger each other and he triggered my need to flee after I have completely opened up and tried everything to understand and work it out only to be dismissed with him running away from the issue again because he doesn't want to talk face to face about things. So after I couldn't get comfortable on the couch I came back into his room and grabbed my things. I faintly heard him ask if I was ok because I don't think my silent crying to concealed before I went to go lay on the couch. I muttered back that I might as well be comfortable and I fled driving to the nearest karaoke bar because I needed to release this pain I felt helpless. Turns out there was no karaoke that night so I drove to the Stop and Shop parking lot and sent him a text, yes I know it's shity to, but I did it because we both hang on and I knew that if I had stayed and did it he would have said let's try again, but I wouldn't be able to tell if he truly meant it (this has happened before) Also, that night I felt like he wanted to break up with me but couldn't do it himself so thinking I was putting both of us out of our misery I texted the following:

"I normally wouldn't do this over text message but I don't feel like anything I say would be heard anyways so I think I speak for both of us when I say that as much ad I would like to be together there is not healthy future for us in a romantic relationship so I will take back my peace and you can have yours back. I can't continue to mourn us over and over feeling like it is going to end terribly every time we have an extreme form of miscommunication. I know this is coming at one of the worst times for you (grandmother dying/feeling self conscious about a skin infection) but I can't do anything for you because I was never truly let in your door and no matter how much I try on my own or ask how to be there for you neither of us have the answer to that. You were right about one thing tonight I can't wait for things. I won't wait around to be unhappy about something as basic of a need a communication and neither should you. Like you said someone else might understand better. I am just not the right person for you. I love you(yes I have told him this before never expected him to say it back), I will miss you terribly, and I wish you and "insert his son's name" the best.

He wrote back the next morning:

"I love you too (First time in 9 months of being together). I think you are right-- maybe we are just too different. Constantly misunderstanding each other. I'm sorry about some of the things I said last night-- I've haven't been myself lately, to say the least. I think it's too bad we chose to bicker and complain instead of actually slowing down and trying to understand each other--something to do different in the future. I'll miss you too and I wish you and "insert my son's name" the best

I only know that his grandmother died because I got a feeling later that night so I decided to look online. I found an obituary dated for the day we broke up. His grandmother had passed the day before. He never said a word about it. He was positively joking with me the whole day, went to his writers group that night and then was fine when I came over as we talk about random things an hour before our fight. #perplexed

Awww yeah. I found it challenging to have serious conversations with the aqua I was dating. I’m guessing it’s difficult for them to want to talk about emotional things. Like me, you seem to want to force it out of them, but it doesn’t work. It pushes them away.

Let me ask you, are you serious about your breakup text? I mean you did break up with him. Not the other way around

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Posted by saggurl88
So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

So I was a bitch in hine site by doing it this way, but in reality we trigger each other and he triggered my need to flee after I have completely opened up and tried everything to understand and work it out only to be dismissed with him running away from the issue again because he doesn't want to talk face to face about things. So after I couldn't get comfortable on the couch I came back into his room and grabbed my things. I faintly heard him ask if I was ok because I don't think my silent crying to concealed before I went to go lay on the couch. I muttered back that I might as well be comfortable and I fled driving to the nearest karaoke bar because I needed to release this pain I felt helpless. Turns out there was no karaoke that night so I drove to the Stop and Shop parking lot and sent him a text, yes I know it's shity to, but I did it because we both hang on and I knew that if I had stayed and did it he would have said let's try again, but I wouldn't be able to tell if he truly meant it (this has happened before) Also, that night I felt like he wanted to break up with me but couldn't do it himself so thinking I was putting both of us out of our misery I texted the following:

"I normally wouldn't do this over text message but I don't feel like anything I say would be heard anyways so I think I speak for both of us when I say that as much ad I would like to be together there is not healthy future for us in a romantic relationship so I will take back my peace and you can have yours back. I can't continue to mourn us over and over feeling like it is going to end terribly every time we have an extreme form of miscommunication. I know this is coming at one of the worst times for you (grandmother dying/feeling self conscious about a skin infection) but I can't do anything for you because I was never truly let in your door and no matter how much I try on my own or ask how to be there for you neither of us have the answer to that. You were right about one thing tonight I can't wait for things. I won't wait around to be unhappy about something as basic of a need a communication and neither should you. Like you said someone else might understand better. I am just not the right person for you. I love you(yes I have told him this before never expected him to say it back), I will miss you terribly, and I wish you and "insert his son's name" the best.

He wrote back the next morning:

"I love you too (First time in 9 months of being together). I think you are right-- maybe we are just too different. Constantly misunderstanding each other. I'm sorry about some of the things I said last night-- I've haven't been myself lately, to say the least. I think it's too bad we chose to bicker and complain instead of actually slowing down and trying to understand each other--something to do different in the future. I'll miss you too and I wish you and "insert my son's name" the best

I only know that his grandmother died because I got a feeling later that night so I decided to look online. I found an obituary dated for the day we broke up. His grandmother had passed the day before. He never said a word about it. He was positively joking with me the whole day, went to his writers group that night and then was fine when I came over as we talk about random things an hour before our fight. #perplexed

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He is handling the death the way he wants. Some don't want to talk about it. You trying to force information out of him while he's trying to mourn wasn't the best move maybe. Now he's lost his grandmother and you.

Maybe he didn't tell you cause he knew you would try to talk about it and he wasn't ready.

This is a sensitive area, because in his time of need you should just be there for him. You should be his safe place to forget the outside world if he's not willing to face certain things, just quite yet.

It doesn't seem like the end but you really shouldn't leave him alone like this. You had this feeling before about him wanting to break up with you and it was wrong. Now him being detached about a death of a grandparent, whether he's been worried about it for a while or it was sudden, has you feeling this way and it had nothing to do with you.

You really should reach out to him and stop making this about you.

Posted by pinkbird03
Awww yeah. I found it challenging to have serious conversations with the aqua I was dating. I’m guessing it’s difficult for them to want to talk about emotional things. Like me, you seem to want to force it out of them, but it doesn’t work. It pushes them away.

Let me ask you, are you serious about your breakup text? I mean you did break up with him. Not the other way around

No I didn't want to break up but I felt like I was suffocating and felt the familiar pain of two people slowly breaking apart. I don't want him to be bitter was only his second serious relationship. I think we both need to be in therapy alone. We both have so many personal issue that we can't even begin to come together and communicate because we are constantly triggering each others attachment style s and trauma. I ask questions he dismisses me. If I disagree on a point of view of his he takes it as a personal attack because he is self conscious about being different. I ask if something is wrong he lies about it then brings it up in text later because he doesn't want to talk about it face to face then he turns it into well you should be able to pick up on what is wrong when the whole reason I am asking is because I don't know.

I try to offer solutions then I get mad when he shuts it down, I get frustrated and yell that this is not going to work whenever he shuts down and tries to walk away instead of communicating, The way I talk intimidates and makes him feel belittle because I ask questions back to back to try and understand but from his point of view I am too invasive. and I am sure there are other things I have done that he just wont voice out of a need to pretend that everything is fine.

I love him I do but we shouldn't be together. I am in my Saturn return right now it is in my 5th house and I think maybe we were just a very big lesson for each other as much as that pains me to say.

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by ladylibra21

Posted by saggurl88
So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

So I was a bitch in hine site by doing it this way, but in reality we trigger each other and he triggered my need to flee after I have completely opened up and tried everything to understand and work it out only to be dismissed with him running away from the issue again because he doesn't want to talk face to face about things. So after I couldn't get comfortable on the couch I came back into his room and grabbed my things. I faintly heard him ask if I was ok because I don't think my silent crying to concealed before I went to go lay on the couch. I muttered back that I might as well be comfortable and I fled driving to the nearest karaoke bar because I needed to release this pain I felt helpless. Turns out there was no karaoke that night so I drove to the Stop and Shop parking lot and sent him a text, yes I know it's shity to, but I did it because we both hang on and I knew that if I had stayed and did it he would have said let's try again, but I wouldn't be able to tell if he truly meant it (this has happened before) Also, that night I felt like he wanted to break up with me but couldn't do it himself so thinking I was putting both of us out of our misery I texted the following:

"I normally wouldn't do this over text message but I don't feel like anything I say would be heard anyways so I think I speak for both of us when I say that as much ad I would like to be together there is not healthy future for us in a romantic relationship so I will take back my peace and you can have yours back. I can't continue to mourn us over and over feeling like it is going to end terribly every time we have an extreme form of miscommunication. I know this is coming at one of the worst times for you (grandmother dying/feeling self conscious about a skin infection) but I can't do anything for you because I was never truly let in your door and no matter how much I try on my own or ask how to be there for you neither of us have the answer to that. You were right about one thing tonight I can't wait for things. I won't wait around to be unhappy about something as basic of a need a communication and neither should you. Like you said someone else might understand better. I am just not the right person for you. I love you(yes I have told him this before never expected him to say it back), I will miss you terribly, and I wish you and "insert his son's name" the best.

He wrote back the next morning:

"I love you too (First time in 9 months of being together). I think you are right-- maybe we are just too different. Constantly misunderstanding each other. I'm sorry about some of the things I said last night-- I've haven't been myself lately, to say the least. I think it's too bad we chose to bicker and complain instead of actually slowing down and trying to understand each other--something to do different in the future. I'll miss you too and I wish you and "insert my son's name" the best

I only know that his grandmother died because I got a feeling later that night so I decided to look online. I found an obituary dated for the day we broke up. His grandmother had passed the day before. He never said a word about it. He was positively joking with me the whole day, went to his writers group that night and then was fine when I came over as we talk about random things an hour before our fight. #perplexed

He is handling the death the way he wants. Some don't want to talk about it. You trying to force information out of him while he's trying to mourn wasn't the best move maybe. Now he's lost his grandmother and you.

Maybe he didn't tell you cause he knew you would try to talk about it and he wasn't ready.

This is a sensitive area, because in his time of need you should just be there for him. You should be his safe place to forget the outside world if he's not willing to face certain things, just quite yet.

It doesn't seem like the end but you really shouldn't leave him alone like this. You had this feeling before about him wanting to break up with you and it was wrong. Now him being detached about a death of a grandparent, whether he's been worried about it for a while or it was sudden, has you feeling this way and it had nothing to do with you.

You really should reach out to him and stop making this about you.

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He hasn't reached out to me, but I reached out to him when I found the article and then again on Tuesday and then again last night to wish him good luck with her service today because he will have to go back to his old church that cause the bulk of his issues and he has been nice every time but neither of us know how to keep the conversation going. His birthday is on the 31 the night of the Blue Moon and we were supposed to go to a comedy show but I don't know if he would still be open to it. I'm not sure if that is weird or not so I thought about just getting him a gift instead. I am just not sure how to proceed to give space to not give space.

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Posted by saggurl88

Posted by ladylibra21

Posted by saggurl88
So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

So I was a bitch in hine site by doing it this way, but in reality we trigger each other and he triggered my need to flee after I have completely opened up and tried everything to understand and work it out only to be dismissed with him running away from the issue again because he doesn't want to talk face to face about things. So after I couldn't get comfortable on the couch I came back into his room and grabbed my things. I faintly heard him ask if I was ok because I don't think my silent crying to concealed before I went to go lay on the couch. I muttered back that I might as well be comfortable and I fled driving to the nearest karaoke bar because I needed to release this pain I felt helpless. Turns out there was no karaoke that night so I drove to the Stop and Shop parking lot and sent him a text, yes I know it's shity to, but I did it because we both hang on and I knew that if I had stayed and did it he would have said let's try again, but I wouldn't be able to tell if he truly meant it (this has happened before) Also, that night I felt like he wanted to break up with me but couldn't do it himself so thinking I was putting both of us out of our misery I texted the following:

"I normally wouldn't do this over text message but I don't feel like anything I say would be heard anyways so I think I speak for both of us when I say that as much ad I would like to be together there is not healthy future for us in a romantic relationship so I will take back my peace and you can have yours back. I can't continue to mourn us over and over feeling like it is going to end terribly every time we have an extreme form of miscommunication. I know this is coming at one of the worst times for you (grandmother dying/feeling self conscious about a skin infection) but I can't do anything for you because I was never truly let in your door and no matter how much I try on my own or ask how to be there for you neither of us have the answer to that. You were right about one thing tonight I can't wait for things. I won't wait around to be unhappy about something as basic of a need a communication and neither should you. Like you said someone else might understand better. I am just not the right person for you. I love you(yes I have told him this before never expected him to say it back), I will miss you terribly, and I wish you and "insert his son's name" the best.

He wrote back the next morning:

"I love you too (First time in 9 months of being together). I think you are right-- maybe we are just too different. Constantly misunderstanding each other. I'm sorry about some of the things I said last night-- I've haven't been myself lately, to say the least. I think it's too bad we chose to bicker and complain instead of actually slowing down and trying to understand each other--something to do different in the future. I'll miss you too and I wish you and "insert my son's name" the best

I only know that his grandmother died because I got a feeling later that night so I decided to look online. I found an obituary dated for the day we broke up. His grandmother had passed the day before. He never said a word about it. He was positively joking with me the whole day, went to his writers group that night and then was fine when I came over as we talk about random things an hour before our fight. #perplexed

He is handling the death the way he wants. Some don't want to talk about it. You trying to force information out of him while he's trying to mourn wasn't the best move maybe. Now he's lost his grandmother and you.

Maybe he didn't tell you cause he knew you would try to talk about it and he wasn't ready.

This is a sensitive area, because in his time of need you should just be there for him. You should be his safe place to forget the outside world if he's not willing to face certain things, just quite yet.

It doesn't seem like the end but you really shouldn't leave him alone like this. You had this feeling before about him wanting to break up with you and it was wrong. Now him being detached about a death of a grandparent, whether he's been worried about it for a while or it was sudden, has you feeling this way and it had nothing to do with you.

You really should reach out to him and stop making this about you.

He hasn't reached out to me, but I reached out to him when I found the article and then again on Tuesday and then again last night to wish him good luck with her service today because he will have to go back to his old church that cause the bulk of his issues and he has been nice every time but neither of us know how to keep the conversation going. His birthday is on the 31 the night of the Blue Moon and we were supposed to go to a comedy show but I don't know if he would still be open to it. I'm not sure if that is weird or not so I thought about just getting him a gift instead. I am just not sure how to proceed to give space to not give space.

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He's dealing with a lot right now. Just keep doing what you're doing and being there for him. His birthday is 11 days away. Plenty of time to figure out what you can plan.

If he knows about the comedy show already, maybe that can ease up some tension and he will want to go anyways.

Posted by ladylibra21

Posted by brianafay
Lol I hate them

LOL! but seriously this is how much he struggles with intimacy. He had a whole day and a half to some how communicate to me that his grandmother had died. We had been talking about it and I was fully in the loop on it. Then we have an argument over communication because he said I could come over and we could talk about it, but when it was time to talk about it he shut down 15 minutes into the conversation saying he couldn't explain and that sometimes I am just oblivious and I have to help him explain, then it was that I just was not gonna understand he understands why can't I? Anyone else would understand why can't I? Then it was he can't talk about this he needed to sleep now. So this hurt me and I began to cry then I slept on the couch and I couldn't get comfortable on the couch so I got my stuff and left.

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Umm, it’s really seams like you don’t understand each other and he can not open up for you. The aqua- libra moon I know opened up only if very safe.

What venus and mars has him?

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by ladylibra21

Posted by saggurl88
So why is it the end and when did he say he loved you?

I don't see any breaking up or mentioning of those words.

So I was a bitch in hine site by doing it this way, but in reality we trigger each other and he triggered my need to flee after I have completely opened up and tried everything to understand and work it out only to be dismissed with him running away from the issue again because he doesn't want to talk face to face about things. So after I couldn't get comfortable on the couch I came back into his room and grabbed my things. I faintly heard him ask if I was ok because I don't think my silent crying to concealed before I went to go lay on the couch. I muttered back that I might as well be comfortable and I fled driving to the nearest karaoke bar because I needed to release this pain I felt helpless. Turns out there was no karaoke that night so I drove to the Stop and Shop parking lot and sent him a text, yes I know it's shity to, but I did it because we both hang on and I knew that if I had stayed and did it he would have said let's try again, but I wouldn't be able to tell if he truly meant it (this has happened before) Also, that night I felt like he wanted to break up with me but couldn't do it himself so thinking I was putting both of us out of our misery I texted the following:

"I normally wouldn't do this over text message but I don't feel like anything I say would be heard anyways so I think I speak for both of us when I say that as much ad I would like to be together there is not healthy future for us in a romantic relationship so I will take back my peace and you can have yours back. I can't continue to mourn us over and over feeling like it is going to end terribly every time we have an extreme form of miscommunication. I know this is coming at one of the worst times for you (grandmother dying/feeling self conscious about a skin infection) but I can't do anything for you because I was never truly let in your door and no matter how much I try on my own or ask how to be there for you neither of us have the answer to that. You were right about one thing tonight I can't wait for things. I won't wait around to be unhappy about something as basic of a need a communication and neither should you. Like you said someone else might understand better. I am just not the right person for you. I love you(yes I have told him this before never expected him to say it back), I will miss you terribly, and I wish you and "insert his son's name" the best.

He wrote back the next morning:

"I love you too (First time in 9 months of being together). I think you are right-- maybe we are just too different. Constantly misunderstanding each other. I'm sorry about some of the things I said last night-- I've haven't been myself lately, to say the least. I think it's too bad we chose to bicker and complain instead of actually slowing down and trying to understand each other--something to do different in the future. I'll miss you too and I wish you and "insert my son's name" the best

I only know that his grandmother died because I got a feeling later that night so I decided to look online. I found an obituary dated for the day we broke up. His grandmother had passed the day before. He never said a word about it. He was positively joking with me the whole day, went to his writers group that night and then was fine when I came over as we talk about random things an hour before our fight. #perplexed

He is handling the death the way he wants. Some don't want to talk about it. You trying to force information out of him while he's trying to mourn wasn't the best move maybe. Now he's lost his grandmother and you.

Maybe he didn't tell you cause he knew you would try to talk about it and he wasn't ready.

This is a sensitive area, because in his time of need you should just be there for him. You should be his safe place to forget the outside world if he's not willing to face certain things, just quite yet.

It doesn't seem like the end but you really shouldn't leave him alone like this. You had this feeling before about him wanting to break up with you and it was wrong. Now him being detached about a death of a grandparent, whether he's been worried about it for a while or it was sudden, has you feeling this way and it had nothing to do with you.

You really should reach out to him and stop making this about you.

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This ☝️

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Posted by brianafay
Lol I hate them

LOL! but seriously this is how much he struggles with intimacy. He had a whole day and a half to some how communicate to me that his grandmother had died. We had been talking about it and I was fully in the loop on it. Then we have an argument over communication because he said I could come over and we could talk about it, but when it was time to talk about it he shut down 15 minutes into the conversation saying he couldn't explain and that sometimes I am just oblivious and I have to help him explain, then it was that I just was not gonna understand he understands why can't I? Anyone else would understand why can't I? Then it was he can't talk about this he needed to sleep now. So this hurt me and I began to cry then I slept on the couch and I couldn't get comfortable on the couch so I got my stuff and left.

Umm, it’s really seams like you don’t understand each other and he can not open up for you. The aqua- libra moon I know opened up only if very safe.

What venus and mars has him?

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That's the thing he used to in his own way our Summer was great we got lost somewhere along the way.

His Venus is in Aquarius and Mars in Scorpio

Posted by ladylibra21
Is this just a way of saying good bye?

Meh, that would be emotional response to the feeling of loss. Could be a good thing if he really meant it.

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Posted by brianafay
Lol I hate them

LOL! but seriously this is how much he struggles with intimacy. He had a whole day and a half to some how communicate to me that his grandmother had died. We had been talking about it and I was fully in the loop on it. Then we have an argument over communication because he said I could come over and we could talk about it, but when it was time to talk about it he shut down 15 minutes into the conversation saying he couldn't explain and that sometimes I am just oblivious and I have to help him explain, then it was that I just was not gonna understand he understands why can't I? Anyone else would understand why can't I? Then it was he can't talk about this he needed to sleep now. So this hurt me and I began to cry then I slept on the couch and I couldn't get comfortable on the couch so I got my stuff and left.

Umm, it’s really seams like you don’t understand each other and he can not open up for you. The aqua- libra moon I know opened up only if very safe.

What venus and mars has him?

That's the thing he used to in his own way our Summer was great we got lost somewhere along the way.

His Venus is in Aquarius and Mars in Scorpio

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Well for what I read today in here, I think you just come to intense on him.

In a way the best thing in my opinion will be for the both of you to just go out and have fun and not to get in too deep conversations.

Don’t push him to it if he is not opening. Don’t make that mistake. The more you push him the more he will close to you and the more insecure you will feel.

Do you drink?

Being relax is a very important part of being able to open up. Just have fun.

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Posted by pinkbird03
Awww yeah. I found it challenging to have serious conversations with the aqua I was dating. I’m guessing it’s difficult for them to want to talk about emotional things. Like me, you seem to want to force it out of them, but it doesn’t work. It pushes them away.

Let me ask you, are you serious about your breakup text? I mean you did break up with him. Not the other way around

No I didn't want to break up but I felt like I was suffocating and felt the familiar pain of two people slowly breaking apart. I don't want him to be bitter was only his second serious relationship. I think we both need to be in therapy alone. We both have so many personal issue that we can't even begin to come together and communicate because we are constantly triggering each others attachment style s and trauma. I ask questions he dismisses me. If I disagree on a point of view of his he takes it as a personal attack because he is self conscious about being different. I ask if something is wrong he lies about it then brings it up in text later because he doesn't want to talk about it face to face then he turns it into well you should be able to pick up on what is wrong when the whole reason I am asking is because I don't know.

I try to offer solutions then I get mad when he shuts it down, I get frustrated and yell that this is not going to work whenever he shuts down and tries to walk away instead of communicating, The way I talk intimidates and makes him feel belittle because I ask questions back to back to try and understand but from his point of view I am too invasive. and I am sure there are other things I have done that he just wont voice out of a need to pretend that everything is fine.

I love him I do but we shouldn't be together. I am in my Saturn return right now it is in my 5th house and I think maybe we were just a very big lesson for each other as much as that pains me to say.

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I’ve read that communication is one of the biggest reasons relationships fail. It’s sad if that’s the only issue. But what else can you both do to make it better?