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I have uranus in the 11th, the home of Aquarius, so I think I have an inkling of whats going on.

I think Aquarians are trapped in a glasshouse. It's pretty sad in a way, because they so want to make friends and get close to people, but there is some barrier that prevents them from ever doing so. Thus, Aquarians are loners. They do have emotion, and a warm, kind heart, but it's trapped in that glasshouse, which is their need for freedom, independence and also a superior need to be better than humanity in terms of originality and even humanitarianism.

Psh I think Aquarians are one of the sadder signs; the more they socialise, the more private they are. They are working at cross purposes - the ultimate paradox.
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Sorry, but I've never heard so much nonsense and twaddle.

I get on great with the vast majority of people. In terms of closeness I have friends who are dear to me and other people that I spend time with but aren't deep down close.

My close friends are the people who have been in my life for what seems forever - 10 yrs plus. Granted I can count these special people on two hands and one foot - with digits to spare.

However, their small number has nothing to do with some enforced glass wall limiting my circle. It has everything to do with my ability to separate the wheat from the chaff. Most people lack the ability to see the true qualities of others, so they call large numbers of people by the word 'friend' and consider them close. And then they are genuinely surprised when these self same people let them down or walk away.

Aquarians tend to have fewer friends simply because we are more discerning and better at judging a persons true worth. We call a spade a spade, a shovel a shovel, and a friend a friend. That distant look that people sometimes notice in our eyes is evidence of thought and shrewd perceptive analysis - we are observing people instead of simply accepting anyone and everyone and fooling ourselves that they have lasting value. In terms of relationships I will take quality over quantity any time.
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Posted by Harlequin
Sorry, but I've never heard so much nonsense and twaddle.

I get on great with the vast majority of people. In terms of closeness I have friends who are dear to me and other people that I spend time with but aren't deep down close.



Brilliant post! I agree with all of it.

Also, when I started reading it I instantly thought about quality over quantity. And then you went and put those exact words at the end of the post. 🙂
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Realistically - how many people can get close to someone? I really value quality over quantity. I also value substance, honesty and most importantly loyalty. I know quite a few people round where I live, I've been here for over two years now. I have 4/5 very close friends, but I also hang with other people from time to time. Those people aren't as close to me, but we can still hang out - maybe go for a drink or whatever. We just don't do it that often.

I'm not desperate to collect thousands of supposed friends. I like having my close friends because building close friendships is something that takes time and is also far more rewarding. Equally, it's nice to have some acquaintances that you can see from time to time. I think it's about finding that balance really and most importantly building the friendship - which as I said takes time. Knowing of people and knowing people are two very different things.
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I think it's true, at least for me. I always want to get close to people and have really close friends but at the same time, I want my freedom. I have a very difficult time getting close to people...there's just some mental block somehow. But the good part is, with my friends, I can go a while without talking to them and when we see each other again, we hardly skip a beat. But I hold very few people close to me...like my mom and my fiance and a few choice friends.



I think I understand that. It's a simulataneous need for distance and closeness. The closeness is always at a mental wavelength, or sort of a connection.
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"Aquarians tend to have fewer friends simply because we are more discerning and better at judging a persons true worth. We call a spade a spade, a shovel a shovel, and a friend a friend. That distant look that people sometimes notice in our eyes is evidence of thought and shrewd perceptive analysis - we are observing people instead of simply accepting anyone and everyone and fooling ourselves that they have lasting value. In terms of relationships I will take quality over quantity any time."

Thats a paradox. The Aquas I know call alot of people friends. Sometimes I wonder whats their definition of friendship. Quality over quantity? Not the type of weirdos Aquas always tend to attract. What quality?? Aquas are so impersonal they deal better with groups/ society, leaving close friendships close to nil.
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"I'm not desperate to collect thousands of supposed friends. I like having my close friends because building close friendships is something that takes time and is also far more rewarding. Equally, it's nice to have some acquaintances that you can see from time to time. I think it's about finding that balance really and most importantly building the friendship - which as I said takes time. Knowing of people and knowing people are two very different things."

The friends that stay are those who accept the Aquarian ways. Aqua tend to like destroying friendships in some fashion, in order to come back? Sorta like Scorpio
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Just saying that Aquarius is the sign of friendship, but I doubt they know how to even define friendship. Its a very very wide term and Aqua seem to have it all jumbled up. The term 'friendship' is too idealistic that it cannot be maintained untarnished for long. Yet when it is tarnished, do you still call it friendship?

Aquas or the women at least, tend to have some strong ties to family, which makes it ironic really. Friendship VS family.. which is stronger, and are they mutually exclusive?

It all stems from the mumble-jumbling of the term 'friendship'.
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Aquas and Virgos are more similar than anyone would imagine.



So are Virgos and Aries..

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hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lol

i have an aires brother can't stand him.

i know aries people to brash member cuz i have Mercury in libra and venus in libra opposite signs of aries.
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The inner motivations and drives are very similar, even the akwardness when trying to get closer to people is similar. My dad is an aqua, I know what Im on about 😛

And my mom is an Aries..go figure.



I find that Virgo is the sign that has the most variants in personality. I have seen so many virgo types, its hard for me to classify them. I have seen virgos who are assertive and those who are shy. Virgs who are cheeky/evil and those who are kind. Virgs who seem promiscuous and those who are virginal.

But I can agree with you that perhaps Virgo and Aqua are similar in a good number of aspects.

I have seen some virgs exhibit the warrior trait of Aries, but its more under the covers.
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^ Yah, because you are a libra-infused virgo, you're different 😉

Seriously, though, I dont think Aqua and Virgo are similar.. they're just very complementary.




lol i also have a aqua rising plus a leo moon my chart is a mess lmao.
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Hmm, perhaps the Aqua accentuates the Virgo sun of yours, plus the moon adds the assertiveness.
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"Aquarians tend to have fewer friends simply because we are more discerning and better at judging a persons true worth. We call a spade a spade, a shovel a shovel, and a friend a friend. That distant look that people sometimes notice in our eyes is evidence of thought and shrewd perceptive analysis - we are observing people instead of simply accepting anyone and everyone and fooling ourselves that they have lasting value. In terms of relationships I will take quality over quantity any time."

Thats a paradox. The Aquas I know call alot of people friends. Sometimes I wonder whats their definition of friendship. Quality over quantity? Not the type of weirdos Aquas always tend to attract. What quality?? Aquas are so impersonal they deal better with groups/ society, leaving close friendships close to nil.




Man, almost all the Aquas I know (especially the girls!) call all kinds of people friends. It just takes a lot more to call someone a close friend. To be just a friend of mine, I have to like you and we have to talk on a fairly regular basis...it's not all that hard, but it is hard for me to move past that point.

Then again, I'm not overly typical of an Aquarian 😉
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Yah, I guess I am looking thru the lens of Aqua girls. I havent known very many Aqua guys.
Are Aquas the type to abandon family for friends? Or they will abandon friendship for family? I have been confused about this, because all-in-all I think family is pretty much the intrinsic concern of Aqua (at least females). But both are pretty much opposites, and there is a strange dichotomy regarding this one.
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*********************WARNING!!!! EGOMANIA AHEAD!!!!✨*********************

Personally? I've actually realised that most of the other signs simply don't compare.

This is me, flaws and all, being blunt.

They're WAY too petty. Ironically, because their egos aren't as huge as aquas'.

The other signs -- I've noticed -- tend to lack a certain amount of, of, of PRIDE:

They're given to "low" behaviour, pretty much, and the worst part is that THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO BEHAVE LIKE THIS OUT OF MALICE!

That's what hurts so much. You want to see some sort of... HUMANITY in these people.

You know, humanity in terms of being COMPLEX? With numerous shades to their character?

Instead you realise that's just the way most other signs ARE: Simple.

Driven by immediate wants. Not even needs. Wants.

Operating solely on animal instinct, basically.

It's true what astrologers say about aquas having high expectations, but if being FAIR and occasionally putting others before yourself is too much to ask of others, then f**k 'em all, I say!

It's like, the other signs are happy to have no self control or awareness.

And they lack BELIEF. Literally. In varying degrees they're bound by what they're TOLD (ESPECIALLY VIRGOS, no cheap shot here).

Except Pisces, of course.

Meanwhile, every single aqua I've met has been like being with a twin. Warts and all.

I ain't perfect. Neither is the sign aquarius.

But by God a lot of the other signs suck at being HUMAN.

I'll pick my "Higher Mammal" comrades wisely, thanks so much.
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Emotions are usually wasted, anyway.

Yup.

When the sh** hits the fan those, uh, "heart-warming" moments most signs accuse aquas of lacking in the provision dept?

They'll bite the dust. Like dying, only without the blissful closure.

It is just how most human beings ARE. Simple.

I'll take this astronomically huge ego and frosty demeanour over all the passion in the world.

At least when the flames die out and my aquarius brain begins to go into overdrive, all the effort won't seem like a waste.

There's a reason why some people build walls. Even GLASS ones.

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"Ironically, because their egos aren't as huge as aquas'."

&2geda, I gotta disagree dude. The Aqua men I have met have been one of the more humble, self-effacing kinds. They're very mellow.

"humanity in terms of being COMPLEX"

Alot of sings are very complex. Take Scorpios for example. Their complexity is deep as an ocean.

"It is just how most human beings ARE. Simple."

Dude you only see the duck calmly wading across the surface. You don't see how furiously it's paddling it's webbers.

I think Aquas dont have big egoes. To be a sign of humanity means to be able to recognise that every man is like another. What I feel they have is a glass wall built to protect themselves from a lost of personal freedom. From that, Aquas have alot of difficulty with intimacy, not based on ego, but the fear of losing control.
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thats mean fiesty. im a very loving person. and killing is against my nature. i just like looking dangerous. girls like that...😆

my aqua friend loves me...she said so today. its a rarity to get those words from her. made me feel all warm and fuzzy...atleast im not one of those friends shes willing to cut away...that would hurt so much...even for me. i like my friends where they are. losing them would hurt. especially when im so loyal and all...
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"Ironically, because their egos aren't as huge as aquas'."

&2geda, I gotta disagree dude. The Aqua men I have met have been one of the more humble, self-effacing kinds. They're very mellow.

"humanity in terms of being COMPLEX"

Alot of sings are very complex. Take Scorpios for example. Their complexity is deep as an ocean.

"It is just how most human beings ARE. Simple."

Dude you only see the duck calmly wading across the surface. You don't see how furiously it's paddling it's webbers.

I think Aquas dont have big egoes. To be a sign of humanity means to be able to recognise that every man is like another. What I feel they have is a glass wall built to protect themselves from a lost of personal freedom. From that, Aquas have alot of difficulty with intimacy, not based on ego, but the fear of losing control.



See, here's the thing Spica: I DIG. Uncomfortably, terrifyingly, depressingly deep.

The people from other signs I keep meeting simply have no DEPTH.

From the young to the old to the really, really old they have no ability to look outside themselves and their personal "holes".

From virgo, to sagi, to leo, to taurus, it's always been the same.

And see, it's the other way around, actually: THEY don't see what's going on behind the easy smile.

Which is why they automatically tag aquas as unemotional, even FAKE.

They don't see the anger, the guile, the confusion, the sadness and ultimately REASON behind your actions.

The REASON why the glass is there.

They want you to be the "friendly", "humanitarian" aqua. They want a fantasy.

It's really like Feisty, said: aquas are all or nothing in the emotions dept.

We don't WASTE sh** like that. It's too precious. Plus, our egos would make us feel stupid when reminscing.

As for the ego thing, I don't know I read somewhere that aquas ARE ego being the only sign represented by a MAN.
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Emotions are usually wasted, anyway.

Yup.

When the sh** hits the fan those, uh, "heart-warming" moments most signs accuse aquas of lacking in the provision dept?

They'll bite the dust. Like dying, only without the blissful closure.

It is just how most human beings ARE. Simple.

I'll take this astronomically huge ego and frosty demeanour over all the passion in the world.

At least when the flames die out and my aquarius brain begins to go into overdrive, all the effort won't seem like a waste.

There's a reason why some people build walls. Even GLASS ones.




Emotions are to be experienced in their entirety.
As an Aqua, I don't half-ass them! It's all or nothing. I'm either completely showing people how I feel or I'm an empty box, hardly any in-between.
So I don't get when people say Aquas are void of emotion and are cold and icy. Perhaps most are...But the ones I've known are warm and caring people. Maybe we're just like that with our fellow January and February comrades!
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Exactly.

With every aqua I've met the unspoken contract has always been the same:

"Yes, I am capable of dropping you cold the moment you f**k up, but I'll always be there because I know YOU will".

There's no subclauses, it's just "We're friends! Oh - no we're not!"

The commitment is made because the freedom is understood. Our need is what binds us together.

It's like looking at yourself.

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Emotions are usually wasted, anyway.

Yup.

When the sh** hits the fan those, uh, "heart-warming" moments most signs accuse aquas of lacking in the provision dept?

They'll bite the dust. Like dying, only without the blissful closure.

It is just how most human beings ARE. Simple.

I'll take this astronomically huge ego and frosty demeanour over all the passion in the world.

At least when the flames die out and my aquarius brain begins to go into overdrive, all the effort won't seem like a waste.

There's a reason why some people build walls. Even GLASS ones.




Emotions are to be experienced in their entirety.
As an Aqua, I don't half-ass them! It's all or nothing. I'm either completely showing people how I feel or I'm an empty box, hardly any in-between.
So I don't get when people say Aquas are void of emotion and are cold and icy. Perhaps most are...But the ones I've known are warm and caring people. Maybe we're just like that with our fellow January and February comrades!





It's like looking at yourself.

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NO. It's like entering a COMMITMENT WITH yourself, aqua on aqua friendships/relatioships.
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I'm a bit a of a hermit for most times so interacting and socialising in a group is very fun for me because I'm very good at it and people really are drawn to me or i draw them in so they dont have a choice. all I care about is making memories.....if someone likes me i already assume that we are friends.....I don't expect much from them, they can be who ever they want to be around me. And I'll be genuinely interested because its alsmost like I'm having an outer body experience sometimes when I'm with people.....the thing I hate about people is that they want to own u..... they say u cant be friends with this person or they try and make u choose because theyre jealous or they have these stupid selfish ideals. People are people and I've come to learn that no one is perfect so I don't expect to much from people now days...to be honest I feel really alone sometimes the only person I get along with the most is my little aqua brother I can truly be my stupid self around him which is soooo much fun...the best thing in the world is laughing if I'm in a group and I can feel energy building and everyone is laughing thats a moment i cherish.....when I'm alone with people i never get to talk about things I like...its always about theyre interests blah blah and I don't mind it.....I'm not gonna bore people preaching my astrology crap or my theories about the universe or every dream I have when I wake up....
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I'm a bit a of a hermit for most times so interacting and socialising in a group is very fun for me because I'm very good at it and people really are drawn to me or i draw them in so they dont have a choice. all I care about is making memories.....if someone likes me i already assume that we are friends.....I don't expect much from them, they can be who ever they want to be around me. And I'll be genuinely interested because its alsmost like I'm having an outer body experience sometimes when I'm with people.....the thing I hate about people is that they want to own u..... they say u cant be friends with this person or they try and make u choose because theyre jealous or they have these stupid selfish ideals. People are people and I've come to learn that no one is perfect so I don't expect to much from people now days...to be honest I feel really alone sometimes the only person I get along with the most is my little aqua brother I can truly be my stupid self around him which is soooo much fun...the best thing in the world is laughing if I'm in a group and I can feel energy building and everyone is laughing thats a moment i cherish.....when I'm alone with people i never get to talk about things I like...its always about theyre interests blah blah and I don't mind it.....I'm not gonna bore people preaching my astrology crap or my theories about the universe or every dream I have when I wake up....




THIS.

I didn't even finish reading it. That's how accurate it was.
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I'm a bit a of a hermit for most times so interacting and socialising in a group is very fun for me because I'm very good at it and people really are drawn to me or i draw them in so they dont have a choice. all I care about is making memories.....if someone likes me i already assume that we are friends.....I don't expect much from them, they can be who ever they want to be around me. And I'll be genuinely interested because its alsmost like I'm having an outer body experience sometimes when I'm with people.....the thing I hate about people is that they want to own u..... they say u cant be friends with this person or they try and make u choose because theyre jealous or they have these stupid selfish ideals. People are people and I've come to learn that no one is perfect so I don't expect to much from people now days...to be honest I feel really alone sometimes the only person I get along with the most is my little aqua brother I can truly be my stupid self around him which is soooo much fun...the best thing in the world is laughing if I'm in a group and I can feel energy building and everyone is laughing thats a moment i cherish.....when I'm alone with people i never get to talk about things I like...its always about theyre interests blah blah and I don't mind it.....I'm not gonna bore people preaching my astrology crap or my theories about the universe or every dream I have when I wake up....




THIS.

I didn't even finish reading it. That's how accurate it was.
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Good GAWD, especially the part about it being other people's interests you're talking about.

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"From the young to the old to the really, really old they have no ability to look outside themselves and their personal "holes".
From virgo, to sagi, to leo, to taurus, it's always been the same."

Maybe you don't know them?
Or maybe they're still at an age where everything is carefree.


"They want you to be the "friendly", "humanitarian" aqua. They want a fantasy."
They want, or Aqua think they want? There's a diff.
The Aqua women I know seem to project that humanitarian fantasy thing.. but on a personal level, they're not like their projection at all. They're very very much human, but they like to project that they're powerfully untouched, unaffected, and the mother theresa of mankind. It's really tough, that outward projection thing.


"As for the ego thing, I don't know I read somewhere that aquas ARE ego being the only sign represented by a MAN."

Ok EGO EGO EGO. I guess ego can mean many things.
If EGO = pride, then yes, Aqua seem to have alot of pride.
They pride themselves on being above others mentally and morally, but I know of alot of them who aren't, yet they still keep up the image. Thus, I guess I have to agree with you there on this aspect.

Aqua tend to enjoy playing on image, I feel. Since memories, illusions, mental connections are right up their alley...
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"So I don't get when people say Aquas are void of emotion and are cold and icy. Perhaps most are...But the ones I've known are warm and caring people."

I see them as warm and caring, but also selfish, stubborn, inflexible and they like to play god. They like to be the consultant and the leader of groups of people. Sorta like a personal fantasy thing? Bossy is the word.. compromise is not up their alley, unless a different solution makes sense. Aquas to me (at least e women) like to rule, but also like to be seen as a compassionate ruler.
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"The commitment is made because the freedom is understood. Our need is what binds us together."

And Aquas mistakenly assume that everyone else is trying to rob them of their freeeeeeeeeeedom. Assume assume assume. Why? Because true freedom can never be lost or taken away. Aquas forget that very few are out to control them. It's their own fear of being controlled that makes them suspicious of other signs being the noosemaster dragging Aqua to JAIL.

It's little wonder why Aquas tend to have relationship trouble. They arent made for relationships. They're made for friendships. Yet friendships are one of the more unstable elements in social life. So Aquas recognise that and place FAMILY before friends. But thats a paradox because family are not friends.
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I'm a bit a of a hermit for most times so interacting and socialising in a group is very fun for me because I'm very good at it and people really are drawn to me or i draw them in so they dont have a choice. all I care about is making memories.....if someone likes me i already assume that we are friends.....I don't expect much from them, they can be who ever they want to be around me. And I'll be genuinely interested because its alsmost like I'm having an outer body experience sometimes when I'm with people.....the thing I hate about people is that they want to own u..... they say u cant be friends with this person or they try and make u choose because theyre jealous or they have these stupid selfish ideals. People are people and I've come to learn that no one is perfect so I don't expect to much from people now days...to be honest I feel really alone sometimes the only person I get along with the most is my little aqua brother I can truly be my stupid self around him which is soooo much fun...the best thing in the world is laughing if I'm in a group and I can feel energy building and everyone is laughing thats a moment i cherish.....when I'm alone with people i never get to talk about things I like...its always about theyre interests blah blah and I don't mind it.....I'm not gonna bore people preaching my astrology crap or my theories about the universe or every dream I have when I wake up....



Its strange when Aquas start to be the ones needing therapy. They usually are the agony aunts/uncles.

You don't mind it because people are your interests too?
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"You know, I just figured that the reason so many people are lonely is because they are looking for others JUST LIKE THEMSELVES"

Yeah, soulmates, some true connection.

"But for the most part, with the people I want to learn and experience new things from, I keep it somewhat more shallow. It's more of an observatory thing. Of course there's banter and discussion and all that, but if you want to be a great friend of mine, you have to PROVE yourself. And, you must be willing to not hear from me for fairly long periods of times sometimes. I put other signs' egos through the ringer and so far, Aquas are some of the only ones who GET it."

Why do you have criterias for friendships? Arent they supposd to be spontaneous?
I have Uranus in the 11th, I dnt have probs kicking peeps out either. Sometimes I feel like I was born to do it. I have a Libran sentimentality that keeps people and things past their due date, but the universe taught me by giving me a friend who betrayed me. I kicked her out of my life, couldnt be happier and have been doing so since.

Lifes too short and humans are too fallible to contain everyone elses' burden.. especially a psychopaths'.

How do you put signs' egos thru the ringer, if you're inclined to type?
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"bahahaha You will never figure it out"

But my guru (aqua/sag/ ven in aqua) said I described her more accurately than most can do in a lifetime 😉.

"When you don't talk to someone for a while and then you pop up out of no where, what do you think they will think?"

I tend to do that alot, though.

"I don't know!! AHH"

Aquas can figure out themseles either 😉


"LOL, Aqua are awesome especially if they like you. I know an Aqua and she just wants to save everyone. Everytime I turn around she trying to save someone."

Yah, that's true somehow. But they're mean to those they're close to.
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"my aqua friend is mean to me....lol. im sure its her way of expressing affection for a good friend"

No, I don't think that's affection, to be honest.. its more like a sounding board thing. Aquas hate weakness, so when you're very very nice to them they see that as weakness and they get vewy vewy mean.. plus, they tend not to like their partners very much, and so the latter usually get the short end of the mean stick 😉

"i hate when people play games."

Aguas play games.. its a natural reaction to needing individuality and freedom.
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"The commitment is made because the freedom is understood. Our need is what binds us together."

And Aquas mistakenly assume that everyone else is trying to rob them of their freeeeeeeeeeedom. Assume assume assume. Why? Because true freedom can never be lost or taken away. Aquas forget that very few are out to control them. It's their own fear of being controlled that makes them suspicious of other signs being the noosemaster dragging Aqua to JAIL.




Commitment of any kind binds. Romantic, friendship, family, work, whatever.

When you're free the only expectations you have to meet are YOURS.

There are people who I will enter into commitments with and who I will try my utmost best not to disappoint.

My aries brother, for example.

On the flipside, there are people whose expectations I don't give a fig about. My libra/scorp half bro, the thousands of "acquaintances" I have collected during my time on this earth so far, etc.

I will pick who has an affect on me emotionally as opposed to being buoyed by the indirect manipulation of others -- like signs like aries and even libra are -- and the rest can go to hell.

Why? Because I am an Aquarius. I understand manipulation.

I know the many forms it takes, explicit or no, and I am GOOD at it.

Better than Scorpio, even, for the simple reason that I am less emotional than they.

I know the little ways to manipulate people, I know I CAN manipulate people and I control my tendency to do so.

I would like others to have the same mindset towards me, but THEY don't know what the are doing.

They just DO it. Simple beasts, pretty much.

It's as simple a reasoning as that, nothing deeper.

It isn't an assumption or a need for freedom. It is survival.

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And before you ask?

Manipulation is done with an expected result in mind; to ellicit sadness or in the case of this scenario involving aquas and the rest of the other signs, GUILT.

The manipulator learns the manipulatee's (my word) weakness, which in this case would be aqua's need to maintain a distance, and uses this knowledge for a desired effect in subtle ways.

Oh, and they don't know when they're doing it, most of the time. They just do it, in this case, to see if they or their company means anything to the aquarius.

They usually and up disappointed because the aquarius recognises the game and depending on their mood decides whether or not to entertain it based on premeditated REASONING.

The above may sound egomaniacal or whatever but I'm just trying to show it isn't exactly a freedom thing like most astrologers say it is.



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It's one huge paradox to be honest.

It's the most simple of reasoning but it's also sort of complicated at least to someone who doesn't reason in such a way.

The point is it is a survival thing. Not so much a "I'm better than these people" or "I need freedom" thing that aquas are usually accused of.

People WILL manipulate you.

FACT.

Most of the time, without even knowing they're doing it.

FACT.

And because aquas aren't overly emotional and the other signs have some sort of pride they will come up with all sorts of explanations regarding why the manipulation fell flat.

FACT.

To not be easily manipulated you need to lack a lot of emotionality.

And because aquas are the least emotional sign (outwardly emotional, anyway), they take that crown for manipulation.

But you'realways walking a tightrope, see. You know you're good at it, and you others do it, too and only the good aquas decide to be fair about it.


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wow...what an interesting thread. I agree with &2gedanow and Spica. The Aquas I've met are quite the paradox, and as a result, their own worst enemies. IMO, the aquas I know do honestly believe that they are "experts" on human nature (proven so by &2geda's posts). As a result, I think they tend to generalize people and make assumptions about them or their character. Whether or not this is due to experience or self conditioning doesn't matter; but it is what hurts them when trying to build/sustain a personal relationship.

I have an Aqua friend that I like very much. My biggest annoyance with him, however, is not his sometimes detached demeanor (I could learn to be more detached, myself). Nor is it this so called "void of emotion" (I actually disagree with this...sometimes I think my Aqua friend is much more sensitive than I). It is because he assumes to know what's best for me and everyone in his close circle. Maybe THAT's the humanity aspect? I find that I have to sometimes remind him not to put words in my mouth, or make assumptions about me. And to be honest, sometimes I find it offensive that someone so adamant about having his freedom and freedom for all, takes the freedom of individual choice away from me.

As for committments that are binding...some are. When you sign a contract for work, you're expected to show up. But I don't think that is the case when it come to personal relationships. In fact, &2gedanow, maybe you're just looking at "commitment" from the wrong angle. A relationship only becomes legally binding once the marriage certificate is signed. But even then, you don't HAVE to stick to it. I think that a lot of people have this skewed meaning in what a relationship is...It's a choice. A healthy relationship (IMO) involves compromise...give and take. If you choose to be in a commited relationship because you get what it is that you need and want from your partner and are able to provide what he/she needs in return; because you are able to compromise with this person and feel an overall sense of equal footing (even though circumstances prevent total 50-50 in a relationship at all times); then that's not binding...it's what you want, and your choice to have it. If you are unhappy, or if the other person is unhappy...it's a choice to remedy the situation or get out.

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