When your partner asks for their needs...

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How do you respond? How does it make you feel? Are you compliant? Does it irritate you? Does it make you feel bad that you weren't providing them already? Do you think it's their problem and not yours?

Just curious.

I expressed my needs and told him my feelings had gotten hurt over something and how that action had made me feel, opened up and communicated keeping the focus on myself and not what he was doing wrong, told him I was happy with him and asked him to consider my side and asked him to try to provide me with what I needed.

Him: I'm sorry you feel that way. I thought we were doing good together. I guess I'm wired differently from you.
Me: we are good together. I am happy with you and thought it would be better for our relationship if I spoke up instead of following my instinct to shut down and withdraw
Him: So I'm not being traded in?!
Me: no baby! That's not going to happen!!.
Him: You need to get some sleep. Gotta get up early
Me: Yep. Good night baby. I love you!
Him: I love you too! Good night.

Nothing was said or promised to me. I suppose I just need to wait, let it sink in, and observe to see if he makes an effort to provide those needs. He usually does comply, for a while anyway. At least I usually see efforts and that is what shows me he loves me.

I'm just curious though to how aquas feel about their partners needs and how important it is to you and whether you care about complying with them. Or if you think it's their problem and not yours.
I know you guys are a lot younger than we are, so try to think from an older person's perspective.

Thanks for any thoughts and opinions!
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Hi Feby! Long time since we've talked. Thanks for your insight.

I do feel better getting it off my chest. I feel like if I don't speak up, it's my own fault my needs aren't met. And you're right about the big picture. Can't dismiss the 90% good stuff for 10% of mediocre stuff. The 90% good outweighs the 10% that is lacking.

I did ask him about his needs and are they getting met. Told him it's only fair that he gets a turn as well, that it is healthier for our relationship to stop and check with each other to make sure each other's needs are met.

It's not that time of month, so I don't think that's the problem this time. I'll admit, there have been times I was over sensitive and did think hormones had something to do with it. But not now.

I hope he does appreciate that I spoke up. At least that gives him a chance to know and do something about it. I've talked to other people with capricorns and one of their biggest complaints was 'but they didn't tell me they had a problem, they just shut down'. So I'm trying to learn from that as well.

Truth be told, I am happier, more content, when I do speak up. Didn't do that so much in my younger years. I've always thought it was a weakness to ask for my own needs, but really, as I have gotten older, I understand it's more of a weakness NOT to ask or speak up. It takes a lot of courage to rock the boat, but sometimes the waters get calmer and smoother and the boat stops rocking.
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I think the convo went perfectly. I only wish people I have been with came to me like that instead of internalizing it. He seemed a tad worried at first- but you assured him it wasn't some deal-breaker type thing. I think he does just need to mull it over in his head on *how* to give you the things you need from him. It can take a day or a week but once he has that eureka moment you'll know 🙂

I know aquas aren't fast with change, even me, I run things through my head on *how* I can do this or if the person will appreciate it. Sometimes I google for ideas or ask friends. Once I come up with what I'm going to do or how to change, I throw it into full gear!
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I think the convo went perfectly. I only wish people I have been with came to me like that instead of internalizing it. He seemed a tad worried at first- but you assured him it wasn't some deal-breaker type thing. I think he does just need to mull it over in his head on *how* to give you the things you need from him. It can take a day or a week but once he has that eureka moment you'll know 🙂

I know aquas aren't fast with change, even me, I run things through my head on *how* I can do this or if the person will appreciate it. Sometimes I google for ideas or ask friends. Once I come up with what I'm going to do or how to change, I throw it into full gear!



I guess I did worry him at first.

It's just I feel like I'm nagging or complaining, when I'm really not. I told him I wasn't upset, just sharing some information for him to consider.
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I was married to an Aquarius, once. Stupid move on my part.

His tagline for when I needed to talk about something, whether it was something I took ten seconds to think about or a few days to realize what happened and was hoping to actually converse and fix a problem:

"Why you bringing up old stuff?"

Then when I felt maybe we should see a marriage counsellor, because I wanted to try to make things work:

"No, I would just get ganged up on."

Guilty conscience, much?
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I was married to an Aquarius, once. Stupid move on my part.

His tagline for when I needed to talk about something, whether it was something I took ten seconds to think about or a few days to realize what happened and was hoping to actually converse and fix a problem:

"Why you bringing up old stuff?"

Then when I felt maybe we should see a marriage counsellor, because I wanted to try to make things work:

"No, I would just get ganged up on."

Guilty conscience, much?



Guilty, yes. Or complacency and lack of effort.
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First off true cap I acknowledge that I'm young at 28 but you're not old at 46....there's some distance between us in years but we all have the same needs that have to be validated in relationships. I'm more than happy to be there in every way shape or form for my lover but I'm not sure how I feel about formally being sat down to be talked to lol its something that's always made me feel nervous even though it may not be something drastically bad it still makes me uneasy thinking that someone who I live with has harboured thoughts about me and have felt the need to call a council meeting and have me sit down to attend a talking to it all stems from the many family talks at the dinner table when I was younger and my stressed out mother would unload a lot of shit onto me at th dinner table and I was never allowed to leave....I used to live with a capricorn friend and he was out of rehab and I was looking after him and after every week we had to talk about something that each of us didn't like what the other had done and something that we liked it had to do with his therapy and to be honest they were the most hardest and taxing talks Ive ever had and I found myself drifting away from him mentally until I ended up leaving lol....I was more than happy being there cooking and cleaning for him and doing his PR work but I hate having to just deal with mediocre boring stuff like peoples feelings truth be told....I would much rather have an argument where we scream and throw shit at each other then have mad crazy makeup sex.
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First off true cap I acknowledge that I'm young at 28 but you're not old at 46....there's some distance between us in years but we all have the same needs that have to be validated in relationships. I'm more than happy to be there in every way shape or form for my lover but I'm not sure how I feel about formally being sat down to be talked to lol its something that's always made me feel nervous even though it may not be something drastically bad it still makes me uneasy thinking that someone who I live with has harboured thoughts about me and have felt the need to call a council meeting and have me sit down to attend a talking to it all stems from the many family talks at the dinner table when I was younger and my stressed out mother would unload a lot of shit onto me at th dinner table and I was never allowed to leave....I used to live with a capricorn friend and he was out of rehab and I was looking after him and after every week we had to talk about something that each of us didn't like what the other had done and something that we liked it had to do with his therapy and to be honest they were the most hardest and taxing talks Ive ever had and I found myself drifting away from him mentally until I ended up leaving lol....I was more than happy being there cooking and cleaning for him and doing his PR work but I hate having to just deal with mediocre boring stuff like peoples feelings truth be told....I would much rather have an argument where we scream and throw shit at each other then have mad crazy makeup sex.



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Was it attention based, not enough time /activities together or communication based?



Okay, okay. I'll be fair. I've been very open on these boards. I asked for more affection (hand holding, snuggling, hugs) and sweet words. It's hard for a cap to ask for those things. I don't need much of it, but I do want some of it.

He is making efforts.
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If only he had more fire for you. You're with an aqua man with cap venus and virgo moon? That's already not snuggable just by looking at those 3 placements alone. I remember you said pisces mars, that helps, but not much unless he's got water grand trine. earth and air are just NOT hallmarks for "passion".... It's just the way it is.

Fire is passion, and water is snuggable.

Well, what's his jupiter and saturn? Houses?

not that it doesn't matter because after close to 3 years, you'd know how cuddable he is.

It's just something you have to live with. He's got other "attributes' that are wonderful, then go with that. If it isn't ENOUGH for you, well.....what we can we say?
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Oh, Lisa, it's fine. He's a good man and he shows he cares and he's stable and everything I want. My scorpio venus sometimes just wants a little more of the lovey dovey stuff, then after a minute the aqua mars says 'okay now get off me.' Really, what he provides is just the right amount of enough, but a teensy bit more would be appreciated when that venus raises her head.

We've established that I can reach out to him whenever I want and he is receptive. Says he likes it but just doesn't think about it, which I believe with his placements. I'm not supposed to censor it, it will always be welcome. (he's never pushed it away). Plus, he's tried reaching out to me more often, so that tells me he's trying. That's what means the most and makes me love him even more.

I'm not one to smother, don't like it myself. So I think we're finding the right balance and reassuring each other.
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Oh, Lisa, it's fine. He's a good man and he shows he cares and he's stable and everything I want. My scorpio venus sometimes just wants a little more of the lovey dovey stuff, then after a minute the aqua mars says 'okay now get off me.' Really, what he provides is just the right amount of enough, but a teensy bit more would be appreciated when that venus raises her head.

We've established that I can reach out to him whenever I want and he is receptive. Says he likes it but just doesn't think about it, which I believe with his placements. I'm not supposed to censor it, it will always be welcome. (he's never pushed it away). Plus, he's tried reaching out to me more often, so that tells me he's trying. That's what means the most and makes me love him even more.

I'm not one to smother, don't like it myself. So I think we're finding the right balance and reassuring each other.




oh ok. that actually sounds really great, truecap. that scorpio venus rears its head and wants security very much, and loving assurance. I get it very much. My husband, my mother, and a few of my close relatives have this placement. Stability is Ace in a man, so that's really good! Us ladies just want some emotional security so i get it.
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.........or water, lol.

I did not ask for hugs, I hugged them (Aqua ex, Gem bf) and they hugged me back. Same for snuggling up. I rather get my needs met by getting into action. Does it matter? Both the effort and effect (warmth, tenderness, intimacy) are just the same. I just assumed I was more needy than they were.

If they did it because I asked/nagged them, would it still be considered spontaneous display of affection from their part? Um....




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My scorpio venus sometimes just wants a little more of the lovey dovey stuff, then after a minute the aqua mars says 'okay now get off me.' Really, what he provides is just the right amount of enough, but a teensy bit more would be appreciated when that venus raises her head.




Lol, is YOUR Aqua Mars saying 'okay now get off me"....? Then short, sweet and frequent is the answer 🙂.

These being said, I was once with a Pisces who didn't hug me back, but patted me on the back after a few seconds (of me snuggling up to him), saying "that's enough now". My Gem is much more more responsive, and so was the Aqua ex.
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Was it attention based, not enough time /activities together or communication based?



Okay, okay. I'll be fair. I've been very open on these boards. I asked for more affection (hand holding, snuggling, hugs) and sweet words. It's hard for a cap to ask for those things. I don't need much of it, but I do want some of it.

He is making efforts.
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Has he always been the non affectionate sort?
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I know what you mean truecap, that scorp in me wants the lovey dovey stuff. Just not all the time.

I think I want validation in certain situations. If i'm the most important to you then make it known wherever we are. Not outwardly, but just basic things like stick by me more than anyone else we're around, or hold the door open for me, etc.

You know things that show others, that I'm his top priority. However a guy usually shows that. If I don't get those validation things occasionally then I feel like I'm not enough or that I'm doing something wrong.

I know he and I are I guess just friends despite him saying "we this" or "we that" and his faux partnership perception but aqua man is really trying hard these past few months, these past few weeks he's stepped it up.

- Really showing his appreciation for the things I do
- Being silly again instead of always so serious
- Trying to make me laugh (Gosh laughter is such a cure for alot of bad things in life)
- Doing things for me without me having to ask

It's making me adore him all over again. Like lilmeow said, I'm afraid of screwing our friendship up.

But the only thing I can tell you cap about yoursituation, all aqua aside. Always say what you feel and what you deserve. I'd rather feel proud at the end of the day than regret not saying anything at all.