12th house stellium in synastry

Who would be more affected? The house person or the planet person? Specifically if it was one person's Sun, Merc, Venus and Mars activating the others 12th?

What about a 6th house stellium in synastry? Same planets

Posted by tiziani
House person is affected

In what way?

Interesting..

What even more interesting is the control the 12th house stellium person holds over the other person. Even if the other person is the pluto dominate int the relationship.

Posted by MindOfIllusions
What even more interesting is the control the 12th house stellium person holds over the other person. Even if the other person is the pluto dominate int the relationship.

Really? My planets fall in his 12th, creating a stellium. I don't feel very in control.

Or are you saying he is the one in control?

If your planets fall in his then he is in control of you. Always.

If you had a stellium in your 12th of your own then no matter what your the person in control.

Doesn't 12th house also deal with secret enemies in similar fashion as the 6th

Posted by frostey91
Doesn't 12th house also deal with secret enemies in similar fashion as the 6th

No. The 12th house person always knows the enemy. Knows them very well also. The enemy nevers knows you unless you bring it to light.

Interesting. I always simcd my enemies. It happens to be in Scorpio. It almost always end up with literal fights with them. So for Scorp I have to keep secrets right?

12th house I am getting is hiddent enemies. 12th house Pisces (delusion) . Also the house of self undoing. You it's like you are setting yourself up without knowing. This is just one of many astrologers who would call it hidden enemies
http://www.astro.com/astrologia/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm

Posted by frostey91
12th house I am getting is hiddent enemies. 12th house Pisces (delusion) . Also the house of self undoing. You it's like you are setting yourself up without knowing. This is just one of many astrologers who would call it hidden enemies
http://www.astro.com/astrologia/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm

If you do not have a shitload of planets in the 12th, then dont worry about it.

That said, every one in the world is your enemy.

12th house I am getting is hiddent enemies. 12th house Pisces (delusion) . Also the house of self undoing. You it's like you are setting yourself up without knowing. This is just one of many astrologers who would call it hidden enemies
http://www.astro.com/astrologia/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm

Posted by MindOfIllusions

Posted by frostey91
12th house I am getting is hiddent enemies. 12th house Pisces (delusion) . Also the house of self undoing. You it's like you are setting yourself up without knowing. This is just one of many astrologers who would call it hidden enemies
http://www.astro.com/astrologia/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm

If you do not have a shitload of planets in the 12th, then dont worry about it.

That said, every one in the world is your enemy.

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You have a mind of illusions.

Posted by MindOfIllusions
If your planets fall in his then he is in control of you. Always.

If you had a stellium in your 12th of your own then no matter what your the person in control.

What can I do about it?

Posted by MindOfIllusions

Posted by frostey91
Doesn't 12th house also deal with secret enemies in similar fashion as the 6th

No. The 12th house person always knows the enemy. Knows them very well also. The enemy nevers knows you unless you bring it to light.

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Do you mean the 12th house stellium person knows their enemy personally and cannot be taken by surprise? I'm not so sure about this.
According to Placidus, I have the sun, moon, mer., and venus in the 12th house which happens to be Pisces, Aries and Taurus. I got really hurt financially by an "enemy" and never saw it coming and was totally unable to defend myself adaquately at the time. Since then I'm more savvy because I need to be and have learned to keep myself to myself to matter what. It's like the whole world has become an opponent for me to survive. It's made life stressful and much less enjoyable. But I agree, my opponents probably don't know me at all.

That is the problem. They do not know your resilience.