Here's the whole kit n kaboodle. Have fun dissecting me, if you want. I've gone over the obvious aspects, but maybe you'll notice something I didn't.
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@OP- I mean why are you interested in Astrology?
Posted by ArkhamAsylum_HarleenQuinzelThere's so much to know...but ok...angular houses are the most important, rising is who you are in the world. Hello, im so and so. 7th is who you are with your partner, and who she/he is. 4th house is your deep self, deep roots, who you are alone in your home.....10th is your official public image. The two are always opposite.
Share your wisdom with us!
3 or 4 planets in a sign, and you'll be a harcore of said sign...
Any sign may be invisible, if it's less aspected or not as well placed than others in your chart.
The shape of the chart is important. There's a list (bucket, locomotive etc)
Dignity is important, Exalt, detriment, fall...there are more than classically listed. For example each square is more pronounced (Jupiter in Cancer is said to be exalted, but in Gemini it has a special strength, as it does in Virgo and Pisces).
In synastry, the sign compatibility matters a lot less than planetary aspects...
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Why this bloody question?
@OP- I mean why are you interested in Astrology?
Posted by MoonArtistWow you have like a pentagram shape...maybe the uranus has less strength cause it's just one of many similar aspects.
Here's the whole kit n kaboodle. Have fun dissecting me, if you want. I've gone over the obvious aspects, but maybe you'll notice something I didn't.
Your first house area is absolutely bombarded....I'll have to come back tomorrow, too tired, calling it a day 🙂
Hm because I wanted to know how you got into Astrology?
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Randomly...a friend told me about my sign, and then his, and I started analysing everyone I know, then I learned about the chart...
Hm because I wanted to know how you got into Astrology?
And my question isn't fucking hard to answer....Simple answer I swear...
Thank you geez
Posted by bricklemarkPosted by MoonArtistWow you have like a pentagram shape...maybe the uranus has less strength cause it's just one of many similar aspects.
Here's the whole kit n kaboodle. Have fun dissecting me, if you want. I've gone over the obvious aspects, but maybe you'll notice something I didn't.
Your first house area is absolutely bombarded....I'll have to come back tomorrow, too tired, calling it a day 🙂click to expand
I never noticed the pentagram. It's really lopsided. The triangle and kite always jumped out to me, as far as patterns go.
Thanks, and enjoy dreamland, or visiting parallel universes/lives, or simply sleeping undisturbed. 🙂
Posted by bricklemarkAh I see! Some of the things I already knew, the others I wasn't knowledgable on. To be honest a lot of the aspects are really confusing for me so I am not sure if I want to study astrology to the next level. But thanks for your input! ðŸ‘Posted by ArkhamAsylum_HarleenQuinzelThere's so much to know...but ok...angular houses are the most important, rising is who you are in the world. Hello, im so and so. 7th is who you are with your partner, and who she/he is. 4th house is your deep self, deep roots, who you are alone in your home.....10th is your official public image. The two are always opposite.
Share your wisdom with us!
3 or 4 planets in a sign, and you'll be a harcore of said sign...
Any sign may be invisible, if it's less aspected or not as well placed than others in your chart.
The shape of the chart is important. There's a list (bucket, locomotive etc)
Dignity is important, Exalt, detriment, fall...there are more than classically listed. For example each square is more pronounced (Jupiter in Cancer is said to be exalted, but in Gemini it has a special strength, as it does in Virgo and Pisces).
In synastry, the sign compatibility matters a lot less than planetary aspects...click to expand
I'm a little late to the party, but I do think that it's hard to grow past a certain point from the information shared on this site alone. I was actually looking at signing up for lindaland, but it's been months and my registration hasn't been accepted. This is a good site for socializing and is much more informal than others sites I've found. I personally am too lazy to study astrology outside of what I find on this site which is what keeps me at a beginner level, unfortunately. I think the eternal beginners are drawn to this site because they can participate without knowing much.
"Does anybody ever evolve to a respectable astrological level here?"
I'm still waiting for the moment astrologers say the same thing about the required orb to call a quincunx a quincunx. With that I'll start my journey of evolving to one of their kind.
I'm still waiting for the moment astrologers say the same thing about the required orb to call a quincunx a quincunx. With that I'll start my journey of evolving to one of their kind.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428You seemed to have an attitude, but you're actually sweet as rain. Ask away if you have any more questions...
Thank you geez
Posted by DwellingOnMoveWell it's probably not that easy to figure out...maybe there are conflicting theories...who cares anyway.... Analyse the person first, draw conclusions later.
"Does anybody ever evolve to a respectable astrological level here?"
I'm still waiting for the moment astrologers say the same thing about the required orb to call a quincunx a quincunx. With that I'll start my journey of evolving to one of their kind.
And it's not set in stone, if the aspect is one degree outside of the aspect, does it have zero effect? I don't think so. A chart is a dynamic thing, you have to take it all in, l've found that an ALMOST aspect or "shape" is just as good as the real thing.
Posted by ScenicThat's another point l make on this site, people never go to the end of things, they leave everything mid-air and ask a new, totally unrelated question.
I'm a little late to the party, but I do think that it's hard to grow past a certain point from the information shared on this site alone. I was actually looking at signing up for lindaland, but it's been months and my registration hasn't been accepted. This is a good site for socializing and is much more informal than others sites I've found. I personally am too lazy to study astrology outside of what I find on this site which is what keeps me at a beginner level, unfortunately. I think the eternal beginners are drawn to this site because they can participate without knowing much.
That's not how you learn, you have to stick to it.
@bricklemark- Yeah I was just asking a simple question.You were like why this bloody question? I know what bloody means haha. I responded with what seemed to be right at the moment..
However which astrology site gives the better response when looking for Asteroids. Do you think these help define someone in a relationship, friendship, career, success, or personality traits??
Chiron in Taurus
Ceres in Cancer
Pallas in Gemini,
Juno in Libra
Vesta in Leo
Fortune in Taurus.... If you could look at these for me and share some insight that would be great..
South Node- Aquarius
I can't seem to find really good insights on these asteroids could you be some of assistance in what we use them for and what purpose they have in a person?
However which astrology site gives the better response when looking for Asteroids. Do you think these help define someone in a relationship, friendship, career, success, or personality traits??
Chiron in Taurus
Ceres in Cancer
Pallas in Gemini,
Juno in Libra
Vesta in Leo
Fortune in Taurus.... If you could look at these for me and share some insight that would be great..
South Node- Aquarius
I can't seem to find really good insights on these asteroids could you be some of assistance in what we use them for and what purpose they have in a person?
Posted by ArkhamAsylum_HarleenQuinzelJust focus on conjuncts, trines and squares. Maybe oppositions but the first three are the most important.Posted by bricklemarkAh I see! Some of the things I already knew, the others I wasn't knowledgable on. To be honest a lot of the aspects are really confusing for me so I am not sure if I want to study astrology to the next level. But thanks for your input! ðŸ‘Posted by ArkhamAsylum_HarleenQuinzelThere's so much to know...but ok...angular houses are the most important, rising is who you are in the world. Hello, im so and so. 7th is who you are with your partner, and who she/he is. 4th house is your deep self, deep roots, who you are alone in your home.....10th is your official public image. The two are always opposite.
Share your wisdom with us!
3 or 4 planets in a sign, and you'll be a harcore of said sign...
Any sign may be invisible, if it's less aspected or not as well placed than others in your chart.
The shape of the chart is important. There's a list (bucket, locomotive etc)
Dignity is important, Exalt, detriment, fall...there are more than classically listed. For example each square is more pronounced (Jupiter in Cancer is said to be exalted, but in Gemini it has a special strength, as it does in Virgo and Pisces).
In synastry, the sign compatibility matters a lot less than planetary aspects...click to expand
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Ok 🙂
@bricklemark- Yeah I was just asking a simple question.You were like why this bloody question? I know what bloody means haha. I responded with what seemed to be right at the moment..
However which astrology site gives the better response when looking for Asteroids. Do you think these help define someone in a relationship, friendship, career, success, or personality traits??
Chiron in Taurus
Ceres in Cancer
Pallas in Gemini,
Juno in Libra
Vesta in Leo
Fortune in Taurus.... If you could look at these for me and share some insight that would be great..
South Node- Aquarius
I can't seem to find really good insights on these asteroids could you be some of assistance in what we use them for and what purpose they have in a person?
I only look at Chiron. The rest never really meant much imo...but l guess they'd need more analysis. Chiron's house placement says a lot more than sign...it's where your deepest would resides...
Posted by GreyWizYou always have the same shetty mood...go fvck an orange...Posted by bricklemarkOHMAGOD you are so cool!!!!Posted by KoniuchaI guess I'm just an oldie, almost 10 years of astrology, learning all the time, I forgot what it was like to begin.
Why you gotta be so rude?
OHMAGOD
OHMAGODclick to expand
Posted by GreyWizIt's your mum's rectal xam.
can anyone explain to me what is a D10 chart?
Posted by TaureyeRead the comment that you're responding. It's usually what people do. Sometimes.Posted by bricklemarkWhat does chiron representPosted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Ok 🙂
@bricklemark- Yeah I was just asking a simple question.You were like why this bloody question? I know what bloody means haha. I responded with what seemed to be right at the moment..
However which astrology site gives the better response when looking for Asteroids. Do you think these help define someone in a relationship, friendship, career, success, or personality traits??
Chiron in Taurus
Ceres in Cancer
Pallas in Gemini,
Juno in Libra
Vesta in Leo
Fortune in Taurus.... If you could look at these for me and share some insight that would be great..
South Node- Aquarius
I can't seem to find really good insights on these asteroids could you be some of assistance in what we use them for and what purpose they have in a person?
I only look at Chiron. The rest never really meant much imo...but l guess they'd need more analysis. Chiron's house placement says a lot more than sign...it's where your deepest would resides...click to expand
Posted by TaureyeYou responded like l hadnt said anything.Posted by bricklemarkYeah it was vague that's why i asked. But i mean since you're such a know it all i figured i asked but i guess not. Thanks for the knowledgePosted by TaureyeRead the comment that you're responding. It's usually what people do. Sometimes.Posted by bricklemarkWhat does chiron representPosted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Ok 🙂
@bricklemark- Yeah I was just asking a simple question.You were like why this bloody question? I know what bloody means haha. I responded with what seemed to be right at the moment..
However which astrology site gives the better response when looking for Asteroids. Do you think these help define someone in a relationship, friendship, career, success, or personality traits??
Chiron in Taurus
Ceres in Cancer
Pallas in Gemini,
Juno in Libra
Vesta in Leo
Fortune in Taurus.... If you could look at these for me and share some insight that would be great..
South Node- Aquarius
I can't seem to find really good insights on these asteroids could you be some of assistance in what we use them for and what purpose they have in a person?
I only look at Chiron. The rest never really meant much imo...but l guess they'd need more analysis. Chiron's house placement says a lot more than sign...it's where your deepest would resides...
click to expand
Posted by TaureyeYou responded like l hadnt said anything.
only look at Chiron. The rest never really meant much imo...but l guess they'd need more analysis. Chiron's house placement says a lot more than sign...it's where your deepest would resides...
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...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Posted by starloverDo you mean growing up or now? And what defines unusual?Posted by MoonArtistDid you have an unusual home life Moonie?Posted by bricklemarkPosted by MoonArtistWow you have like a pentagram shape...maybe the uranus has less strength cause it's just one of many similar aspects.
Here's the whole kit n kaboodle. Have fun dissecting me, if you want. I've gone over the obvious aspects, but maybe you'll notice something I didn't.
Your first house area is absolutely bombarded....I'll have to come back tomorrow, too tired, calling it a day 🙂
I never noticed the pentagram. It's really lopsided. The triangle and kite always jumped out to me, as far as patterns go.
Thanks, and enjoy dreamland, or visiting parallel universes/lives, or simply sleeping undisturbed. 🙂click to expand
Posted by MoonArtistHi there! You actually have a hexagon...that's missing one side, or point.
Here's the whole kit n kaboodle. Have fun dissecting me, if you want. I've gone over the obvious aspects, but maybe you'll notice something I didn't.
That's pretty remarkable, it's really a perfect shape. People with patterns that are spread out, may not be so focused, but they have good general knowledge and they become smart, visionary people.
A hexagon is also called a Grand Sextile.
The energy associated with a Grand Sextile is stable and balanced, allowing for the free flow of life’s vital forces. The result is the opportunity to feel an almost perfect flow of harmonizing energy. Through its symmetry, the Grand Sextile holds a grid of harmony and balance. It also provides a superior level of organization that can be used in multiple ways, especially in various types of management.
A single sextile is created when a distance of 60° separates two planets. Whenever it occurs this is considered an important accent within an astrology chart. In the most general sense, sextiles indicate a function of management and organization.
"Let’s take a brief look at how the Grand Sextile is expressed in a natal birth chart.
I’m familiar with the birth charts of two people with this beautiful Grand Sextile pattern. Relying on the analysis of the original astrologer, Leyla Rael, their lives were smooth sailing, with no drama, and no extra excitement. There was nothing particular to point to as being dramatic or challenging. Rael noted that they were both great managers, however they were so good at keeping everything running smoothly that they didn’t receive the recognition of the great job they were doing.
What surprised me the most, after reviewing what was said about these individuals, was how uneventful their lives were. My analysis is that with nothing or no one to push against, their lives flowed with stable, balanced energy that was almost unnoticed. This is similar to a perfectly round ball rolling along on a smooth surface. After all, in most cases it’s the sharp edges and bumps in the road that build our character and make life interesting.
The challenge of this cosmic formation in a birth chart is finding the opportunity for growth, in the face of such strong balance and harmony. Both of these charts had accents, but the overall dynamic was so stable and harmonious perhaps there wasn’t enough tension to create personal motivation for change or growth."
@bricklemark
OHHH!!! I finally see the pentagram (hexagon that's missing a point lol)! It's on its side with the top point facing to the right. Funny thing is that I've looked and looked and the kite and the triangle are the things that kept jumping out and I couldn't see the other. Is it still a Grand Sextile if it's missing a point?
So, basically I'm the lucky person who lives the seemingly charmed life, because I have aspects that make things flow for me? And the grand trine in the triangle shape adds to that effect? What happens when the triangle isn't covering signs from the same element, does that change how it works?
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand it's "ooooo, cool shape/aspect!" but on the other hand it's "your life is destined to be boring". Hmmmm......
Thank you for looking at my chart and explaining that to me.
OHHH!!! I finally see the pentagram (hexagon that's missing a point lol)! It's on its side with the top point facing to the right. Funny thing is that I've looked and looked and the kite and the triangle are the things that kept jumping out and I couldn't see the other. Is it still a Grand Sextile if it's missing a point?
So, basically I'm the lucky person who lives the seemingly charmed life, because I have aspects that make things flow for me? And the grand trine in the triangle shape adds to that effect? What happens when the triangle isn't covering signs from the same element, does that change how it works?
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand it's "ooooo, cool shape/aspect!" but on the other hand it's "your life is destined to be boring". Hmmmm......
Thank you for looking at my chart and explaining that to me.
Posted by jukeyThanks 🙂
Cool chart @Moonartist , thanks for sharing.
I'd say that chart has a healthy mix of different things going on. Aspects to the sun and mercury I think stand out the most. I have the sun square mars and uranus as well. One denotes a bit of a temper and the other being rebellious in perhaps an abrasive way or even in subtle ways (like an unwillingness to use caps for proper nouns lol), but totally awesome to have once you learn to own them.
Yes, a temper is an understatement. I have enough of one that my mom warned my ex mil (at an engagement party) that her son had better not betray me or hurt me in any way because I don't forgive. I've thrown rocks at cars way back when I was younger. I think my rebelliousness manifests in my lack of conforming. I HATE when people tell me what to do. I've never been cut out for the 9-5 office type of job. A psych test (mmpi) said I was confrontational. I can agree with that assessment.
Posted by MoonArtistOh yeah there's a bit of a mix there, grand trine, kite...and the hexagon that's missing a point. I'd say it's still works because it's just so perfect, 5 perfect points joined by sextiles. That's no accident. The fact that it's missing a point means the perfect energy is disrupted a tad, but even a car can run on 3 wheels, so what's a point missing in a hexa? Not much of a lack really...and all the planets that bombard your rising, it's as if they're trying to make a perfect hexagon. Or like you tried to be born at the right time to form the hexagon but it may not have happened at all. When the Sun was in Gemini, the other planets were probably elsewhere...
@bricklemark
OHHH!!! I finally see the pentagram (hexagon that's missing a point lol)! It's on its side with the top point facing to the right. Funny thing is that I've looked and looked and the kite and the triangle are the things that kept jumping out and I couldn't see the other. Is it still a Grand Sextile if it's missing a point?
So, basically I'm the lucky person who lives the seemingly charmed life, because I have aspects that make things flow for me? And the grand trine in the triangle shape adds to that effect? What happens when the triangle isn't covering signs from the same element, does that change how it works?
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand it's "ooooo, cool shape/aspect!" but on the other hand it's "your life is destined to be boring". Hmmmm......
Thank you for looking at my chart and explaining that to me.
And you told starlover "define unusual", which suggests you probaly didn't have many bumps in the road. That's the hexagon.
Yeah the Grand Trine adds to the inertia, but also, adds a flowing energy...but the kite on the other hand,
"The Kite generally has a positive "prognosis", as the focal planet (in Kurt's case, Uranus) stimulates activity. Natives with the Kite in their charts are more inclined to put the talents of the Grand Trine into action, hopefully constructively (although not necessarily!).
The Kite is a big driving force: it combines the abilities and stability of the Grand Trine with the skill inherent in the Bisextile to reap results. At the point of opposition of the "spine" - the tips of the two Kite-making triangles - the native receives additional stability in moving through life. Possibly there could be ongoing external problems that require attention, or simply inner discontent. "
The focal point in your chart is the Saturn in Aquarius 8th house...so this is what stimulates activity...
"8th House in Aquarius
You take an unconventional approach to dealing with joint finances and investing. You can play around with the stock market, take big risks on a whim, and sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it doesn’t. You can transform yourself quickly and without much tho
... much thought, and do so in unusual ways."
"With your natal Saturn in your 8th house, you’re required to transform in your life in order to be happy and successful, but you fight it tooth and nail. Change is something that you’re not comfortable with, yet it’s the very thing that you need most. You avoid it at all costs, and it’s to your detriment. You have to face it, embrace it, and allow yourself to change. Failure to do so will only result in unhappiness. Change isn’t easy, but it’s necessary, especially for you. As you get older, you come to understand this better, and see how change helps you. Start with little things and work your way up. You may struggle and fall, but you can keep getting up. This is a position of great determination, will, and strength if you work with it."
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Ok That description of Saturn just mirrors the whole problem here, you're bored, you feel like you're destined to a boring life. Part of that is the 3 remarkable shapes in your chart!! And the other part is the Saturn in 8th. It helps that it's in Aquarius because the sign loves the extraordinary and the strange...
So the thing with Saturn, as you probably know, is it works best over time. As you age....
You have nothing to worry about, time is on your side, after your Saturn return, and beyond, you will go through huge inner changes and your whole chart/life will just unlock 🙂 Good news .....lol
"With your natal Saturn in your 8th house, you’re required to transform in your life in order to be happy and successful, but you fight it tooth and nail. Change is something that you’re not comfortable with, yet it’s the very thing that you need most. You avoid it at all costs, and it’s to your detriment. You have to face it, embrace it, and allow yourself to change. Failure to do so will only result in unhappiness. Change isn’t easy, but it’s necessary, especially for you. As you get older, you come to understand this better, and see how change helps you. Start with little things and work your way up. You may struggle and fall, but you can keep getting up. This is a position of great determination, will, and strength if you work with it."
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Ok That description of Saturn just mirrors the whole problem here, you're bored, you feel like you're destined to a boring life. Part of that is the 3 remarkable shapes in your chart!! And the other part is the Saturn in 8th. It helps that it's in Aquarius because the sign loves the extraordinary and the strange...
So the thing with Saturn, as you probably know, is it works best over time. As you age....
You have nothing to worry about, time is on your side, after your Saturn return, and beyond, you will go through huge inner changes and your whole chart/life will just unlock 🙂 Good news .....lol
@bricklemark
Ha! I opted for making the hexagon lopsided because I had to mix things up. Actually, I technically shouldn't have been born, according to the dr. that delivered me. The placenta was long and S shaped, and the umbilical cord the thickness of a woman's pinky, not the thumb, and the dr. told my mom that he's never seen a pregnancy go to term with a misshaped placenta, usually they're miscarried early on. Despite being nearly a month late according to the due date, I was still only 5 lbs. 10 oz.
I did have a very smooth childhood. No major illnesses, no major injuries (despite growing up riding horses, etc). We were never abused, we never lacked for anything, but my parents managed not to spoil us (we had chores, etc). Artist mom and scientist dad, both Gems. We all had our growing pain moments, but nothing that was a true kick to the gut of reality. If anything, I had a charmed childhood. The interesting thing is that everyone in my immediate family have had past lives together, except for my brother...he's the odd man out, so to speak, and despite never making him be the odd man out, he's always acted like it. My sister and I call our family our wolf pack, because that's how we roll: tight nit, but independent, not afraid to have a few loud squabbles, but when push comes to shove we ALWAYS have each others backs, we're fiercely protective of each other. My best guess is that my brother chose us so we could teach him about "pack". It's taken him 30 years, but he's FINALLY embraced the pack and is a part of it. It's been a beautiful thing to watch with him.
Sorry.....that probably bored you to tears.
Interesting about the grand trine, kite and how they interact. I can see how there's a little of both in regards to inner discontent and ongoing external problems, but the inner discontent I never placed with astrology, because it's not astrology based at all, it's solely based on soul origins and trying to remember the beginning while also trying to completely meld what seems like the impossible with the illusion of the mundane. Weirdly, my sister is the same as me in origin, but she doesn't struggle with the understanding or remembering, she just flows with it/doesn't question it.
8th House Aquarius description fits, but for some reason the fixed sign aspect never feels "fixed", but maybe that's because of all the cardinal energy in my chart.
What does it mean if the other planets are bombarding my rising, considering my rising is the same sign as my sun and moon?
Ha! I opted for making the hexagon lopsided because I had to mix things up. Actually, I technically shouldn't have been born, according to the dr. that delivered me. The placenta was long and S shaped, and the umbilical cord the thickness of a woman's pinky, not the thumb, and the dr. told my mom that he's never seen a pregnancy go to term with a misshaped placenta, usually they're miscarried early on. Despite being nearly a month late according to the due date, I was still only 5 lbs. 10 oz.
I did have a very smooth childhood. No major illnesses, no major injuries (despite growing up riding horses, etc). We were never abused, we never lacked for anything, but my parents managed not to spoil us (we had chores, etc). Artist mom and scientist dad, both Gems. We all had our growing pain moments, but nothing that was a true kick to the gut of reality. If anything, I had a charmed childhood. The interesting thing is that everyone in my immediate family have had past lives together, except for my brother...he's the odd man out, so to speak, and despite never making him be the odd man out, he's always acted like it. My sister and I call our family our wolf pack, because that's how we roll: tight nit, but independent, not afraid to have a few loud squabbles, but when push comes to shove we ALWAYS have each others backs, we're fiercely protective of each other. My best guess is that my brother chose us so we could teach him about "pack". It's taken him 30 years, but he's FINALLY embraced the pack and is a part of it. It's been a beautiful thing to watch with him.
Sorry.....that probably bored you to tears.
Interesting about the grand trine, kite and how they interact. I can see how there's a little of both in regards to inner discontent and ongoing external problems, but the inner discontent I never placed with astrology, because it's not astrology based at all, it's solely based on soul origins and trying to remember the beginning while also trying to completely meld what seems like the impossible with the illusion of the mundane. Weirdly, my sister is the same as me in origin, but she doesn't struggle with the understanding or remembering, she just flows with it/doesn't question it.
8th House Aquarius description fits, but for some reason the fixed sign aspect never feels "fixed", but maybe that's because of all the cardinal energy in my chart.
What does it mean if the other planets are bombarding my rising, considering my rising is the same sign as my sun and moon?
Posted by ManilaViceShhhhhh.....we're behaving!
this guy is totally denver no one else reads charts like that lol
Posted by bricklemark~laugh sobs~ Oh gods, does that hit home, and the irony is that it's not nearly as simple seeming or even as mundane as it sounds. This goes back to what I was saying about soul origin, trying to remember, and even trying to fully integrate all of those pieces of me into a more complete whole. I completely ran from one of those aspects of me for 20-30 yrs, and the other aspect I put away, sort of like putting something in storage, for about 10-15 yrs, and all because I couldn't remember and didn't understand, was trying too hard to be "normal", to fit in, to be human. I think the last 5 years have been about slowly waking up to this, and learning to embrace all of me. No, it's not easy, especially when some of the ones closest to me don't understand, and worse, end up terrified.
... much thought, and do so in unusual ways."
"With your natal Saturn in your 8th house, you’re required to transform in your life in order to be happy and successful, but you fight it tooth and nail. Change is something that you’re not comfortable with, yet it’s the very thing that you need most. You avoid it at all costs, and it’s to your detriment. You have to face it, embrace it, and allow yourself to change. Failure to do so will only result in unhappiness. Change isn’t easy, but it’s necessary, especially for you. As you get older, you come to understand this better, and see how change helps you. Start with little things and work your way up. You may struggle and fall, but you can keep getting up. This is a position of great determination, will, and strength if you work with it."
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Ok That description of Saturn just mirrors the whole problem here, you're bored, you feel like you're destined to a boring life. Part of that is the 3 remarkable shapes in your chart!! And the other part is the Saturn in 8th. It helps that it's in Aquarius because the sign loves the extraordinary and the strange...
So the thing with Saturn, as you probably know, is it works best over time. As you age....
You have nothing to worry about, time is on your side, after your Saturn return, and beyond, you will go through huge inner changes and your whole chart/life will just unlock 🙂 Good news .....lol
Is there ever a time when I'm completely free to show who and what I am? I feel like I'm in a balancing act of keeping up the normal facade while embracing myself and learning to grow in that area, but it's like tapping into the center of a star: the energy has to go someplace!!
Annnnnddddd, I probably make zero sense, but that's ok.
Posted by bricklemark
...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Just reading this comment, again you've taught me something new and very useful. Thank you bricklemark. 🙂
Posted by NostalgicCappyCool 🙂 Which house is it in?Posted by bricklemark
...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Just reading this comment, again you've taught me something new and very useful. Thank you bricklemark. 🙂click to expand
Posted by MoonArtistLike last time, I think I'll take a few days to answer, I like to digest things slowly and gain the insight 🙂Posted by bricklemark~laugh sobs~ Oh gods, does that hit home, and the irony is that it's not nearly as simple seeming or even as mundane as it sounds. This goes back to what I was saying about soul origin, trying to remember, and even trying to fully integrate all of those pieces of me into a more complete whole. I completely ran from one of those aspects of me for 20-30 yrs, and the other aspect I put away, sort of like putting something in storage, for about 10-15 yrs, and all because I couldn't remember and didn't understand, was trying too hard to be "normal", to fit in, to be human. I think the last 5 years have been about slowly waking up to this, and learning to embrace all of me. No, it's not easy, especially when some of the ones closest to me don't understand, and worse, end up terrified.
... much thought, and do so in unusual ways."
"With your natal Saturn in your 8th house, you’re required to transform in your life in order to be happy and successful, but you fight it tooth and nail. Change is something that you’re not comfortable with, yet it’s the very thing that you need most. You avoid it at all costs, and it’s to your detriment. You have to face it, embrace it, and allow yourself to change. Failure to do so will only result in unhappiness. Change isn’t easy, but it’s necessary, especially for you. As you get older, you come to understand this better, and see how change helps you. Start with little things and work your way up. You may struggle and fall, but you can keep getting up. This is a position of great determination, will, and strength if you work with it."
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Ok That description of Saturn just mirrors the whole problem here, you're bored, you feel like you're destined to a boring life. Part of that is the 3 remarkable shapes in your chart!! And the other part is the Saturn in 8th. It helps that it's in Aquarius because the sign loves the extraordinary and the strange...
So the thing with Saturn, as you probably know, is it works best over time. As you age....
You have nothing to worry about, time is on your side, after your Saturn return, and beyond, you will go through huge inner changes and your whole chart/life will just unlock 🙂 Good news .....lol
Is there ever a time when I'm completely free to show who and what I am? I feel like I'm in a balancing act of keeping up the normal facade while embracing myself and learning to grow in that area, but it's like tapping into the center of a star: the energy has to go someplace!!
Annnnnddddd, I probably make zero sense, but that's ok.click to expand
Posted by bricklemarkPosted by NostalgicCappyCool 🙂 Which house is it in?Posted by bricklemark
...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Just reading this comment, again you've taught me something new and very useful. Thank you bricklemark. 🙂click to expand
House 11
Posted by bricklemarkPosted by MoonArtistLike last time, I think I'll takPosted by bricklemark~laugh sobs~ Oh gods, does that hit home, and the irony is that it's not nearly as simple seeming or even as mundane as it sounds. This goes back to what I was saying about soul origin, trying to remember, and even trying to fully integrate all of those pieces of me into a more complete whole. I completely ran from one of those aspects of me for 20-30 yrs, and the other aspect I put away, sort of like putting something in storage, for about 10-15 yrs, and all because I couldn't remember and didn't understand, was trying too hard to be "normal", to fit in, to be human. I think the last 5 years have been about slowly waking up to this, and learning to embrace all of me. No, it's not easy, especially when some of the ones closest to me don't understand, and worse, end up terrified.
... much thought, and do so in unusual ways."
"With your natal Saturn in your 8th house, you’re required to transform in your life in order to be happy and successful, but you fight it tooth and nail. Change is something that you’re not comfortable with, yet it’s the very thing that you need most. You avoid it at all costs, and it’s to your detriment. You have to face it, embrace it, and allow yourself to change. Failure to do so will only result in unhappiness. Change isn’t easy, but it’s necessary, especially for you. As you get older, you come to understand this better, and see how change helps you. Start with little things and work your way up. You may struggle and fall, but you can keep getting up. This is a position of great determination, will, and strength if you work with it."
----
Ok That description of Saturn just mirrors the whole problem here, you're bored, you feel like you're destined to a boring life. Part of that is the 3 remarkable shapes in your chart!! And the other part is the Saturn in 8th. It helps that it's in Aquarius because the sign loves the extraordinary and the strange...
So the thing with Saturn, as you probably know, is it works best over time. As you age....
You have nothing to worry about, time is on your side, after your Saturn return, and beyond, you will go through huge inner changes and your whole chart/life will just unlock 🙂 Good news .....lol
Is there ever a time when I'm completely free to show who and what I am? I feel like I'm in a balancing act of keeping up the normal facade while embracing myself and learning to grow in that area, but it's like tapping into the center of a star: the energy has to go someplace!!
Annnnnddddd, I probably make zero sense, but that's ok.click to expand
Got cut off....
@bricklemark
Take your time. I do something similar: one part rereading things, one part digesting it all. 🙂
@bricklemark
Take your time. I do something similar: one part rereading things, one part digesting it all. 🙂
On the topic of chiron, mine is in the 10th house, but the description doesn't fit my deepest wound, not at all. Chiron in the 11th house, however, fits perfectly. My chiron is close to the edge with the 11th house. Why would it fit for 11th house while being barely in the 10th?
Posted by MoonArtistThat's a known fact, if it's close to the next house, then said house applies...
On the topic of chiron, mine is in the 10th house, but the description doesn't fit my deepest wound, not at all. Chiron in the 11th house, however, fits perfectly. My chiron is close to the edge with the 11th house. Why would it fit for 11th house while being barely in the 10th?
Posted by adoreUNot focusing on sun sign astrology, not focusing on one planet/ placement. Generally viewing the chart as a whole. Talking more about houses than signs....
What is a respectable astrological level to you?
Posted by NostalgicCappyI'm actually gonna just copy and paste...voila 🙂 lolPosted by bricklemarkPosted by NostalgicCappyCool 🙂 Which house is it in?Posted by bricklemark
...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Just reading this comment, again you've taught me something new and very useful. Thank you bricklemark. 🙂
House 11click to expand
Chiron in the 11th house: This shows your deepest wound residing in friendship and hopes. You may often feel rejected by others and this can lead you to be quite lonely. You are unique and you know that you don’t fit in with the normal crowd, so instead you seek out those that have similar points of view in order to not be rejected anymore. You can easily help others fit in somewhere you are, but you find it difficult to fit yourself in with others. It’s important to recognize that we are all divine beings, interconnected, and that we belong everywhere- not just with those who are of like mind. You may feel lonely and a little bitter because of this and reject anyone that doesn’t fit into your description of ‘friend’ because you fear the connection not working out. Learn to make connections without preconceived notions of how it’s going to go, and remember that ‘everyone you meet is your guru’. You have something to gain from everyone just as everyone has something to gain by coming into contact with you.
WHY CHIRON IS IMPORTANT.....
I believe that the comet Chiron is a very important part of our charts. It is the bridge between the personal planets and the outer planets, showing us the way to healing and the transcendence of personal pain. Once we get past the personal planets, if we wish to make a journey into the spiritual, we must first appease Chiron. He is the gatekeeper to our deepest wounds. He is there, guarding them, so that they cannot escape into your consciousness until you are ready to come to terms with them. It takes a certain level of awareness in order to work with Chiron, and if one battles what’s behind the gate without being fully prepared, they will be blasted back and have much ground to go back over until they come upon Chiron again. Though Chiron can only be worked on when approached, his ill still lurks inside our subconscious and affects us. That is why it’s best to make your pilgrimage past the personal to the domain of Chiron and finally start your self-healing.
I believe that the comet Chiron is a very important part of our charts. It is the bridge between the personal planets and the outer planets, showing us the way to healing and the transcendence of personal pain. Once we get past the personal planets, if we wish to make a journey into the spiritual, we must first appease Chiron. He is the gatekeeper to our deepest wounds. He is there, guarding them, so that they cannot escape into your consciousness until you are ready to come to terms with them. It takes a certain level of awareness in order to work with Chiron, and if one battles what’s behind the gate without being fully prepared, they will be blasted back and have much ground to go back over until they come upon Chiron again. Though Chiron can only be worked on when approached, his ill still lurks inside our subconscious and affects us. That is why it’s best to make your pilgrimage past the personal to the domain of Chiron and finally start your self-healing.
Posted by bricklemarkPosted by NostalgicCappyI'm actually gonna just copy and paste...voila 🙂 lolPosted by bricklemarkPosted by NostalgicCappyCool 🙂 Which house is it in?Posted by bricklemark
...and l did say something. I said chiron's house is where your deepest wound resides. That's a lot of info, it's not vague, it's not ONE OF the wounds, it's your DEEPEST wound...there's only one.
And it is fundamentally all you need to know.
You could have asked me to tell you a bit more, but it would have been preferable if you'd looked up your Chiron placement and ask me to describe it for example...
Just reading this comment, again you've taught me something new and very useful. Thank you bricklemark. 🙂
House 11
Chiron in the 11th house: This shows your deepest wound residing in friendship and hopes. You may often feel rejected by others and this can lead you to be quite lonely. You are unique and you know that you don’t fit in with the normal crowd, so instead you seek out those that have similar points of view in order to not be rejected anymore. You can easily help others fit in somewhere you are, but you find it difficult to fit yourself in with others. It’s important to recognize that we are all divine beings, interconnected, and that we belong everywhere- not just with those who are of like mind. You may feel lonely and a little bitter because of this and reject anyone that doesn’t fit into your description of ‘friend’ because you fear the connection not working out. Learn to make connections without preconceived notions of how it’s going to go, and remember that ‘everyone you meet is your guru’. You have something to gain from everyone just as everyone has something to gain by coming into contact with you.click to expand
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. 🙂
Posted by bricklemarkThis is where I want astrology to have more detail, like there should be a special category that's more descriptive than "cusp". If it's close to another house, and the other house applies, why doesn;t the house it's actually in apply more than the one it's close to? It's like there's a black hole that warps the threads of the time/space continuum of charts.Posted by MoonArtistThat's a known fact, if it's close to the next house, then said house applies...
On the topic of chiron, mine is in the 10th house, but the description doesn't fit my deepest wound, not at all. Chiron in the 11th house, however, fits perfectly. My chiron is close to the edge with the 11th house. Why would it fit for 11th house while being barely in the 10th?click to expand
THANKS SIR@BRICKLEMARK....
Posted by bricklemarkYeah I was thinking the same thing lol. But I have studied tropical and sidereal. I have even gone to the lengths of adding ophiuchus even though that constellation is not considered. I would consider myself a avid learner and advanced student of astrology not at the level of a master yet. I studied Ascendants, Houses, Nakshatras, Padas, Rahu(NN), Ketu(SN), MC, IC hell even Chiron, outerplanets and pretty much ANYTHING I am confused or intrigued by. True Mercurian brilliance.
Seems like the website of eternal beginners lol no offense
Posted by bricklemarkObviously you don't if you don't know anything about sidereal tbh.Posted by NostalgicCappyI know pretty much all there is to know. I'm done with sun sign astrology and detaching one placement from the all....it's just so old to me.Posted by bricklemark
Seems like the website of eternal beginners lol no offense
What level are you on?click to expand
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