North Node - what does your touch?

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I've seen posts about North Node, but let's get more in-depth. Since most of us know what our North Node and South Node are, now let's look at what it touches.

For example. My NN is conjunct my Mars. Ironically I am a Libra ascendant with a packed first house (Aries energy). Mars is ruled by Aries. In this life, not only is my Sag Mars life lessons at play, but I am also learning to grasp the power of Mars and really hold the Aries energy I have within. I'm a Libra ascendant, so sometimes I just want to be loving and warm and also diplomatic, when in reality sometimes you just have to stand your ground and be assertive/aggressive. This is where my lessons will be and have definitely been so far.

Here is my NN in Sag/SN in Gem description:
North Node in Sagittarius - South Node in Gemini

Avoid to get lost in trivial talk. Naturally you are a talker and want to discuss a lot of things with others. You may gossip but you need to be honest and let your moral speak with others. Trust your intuitive mind. You sometimes need to be free from your contact network to find broader perspective.

Some NN conjunct Mars descriptions:
Mars conjunct North Node: These natives have far-reaching aspirations for action, competition and fire, times of repressed anger, unusual actions, unexpected violence

Mars conjunct North Node: This person's safety is tied to action and independence. They reassure themselves by seeking the liberty to do their own thing. They may be a pioneer in emotional matters. Ambivalence between freedom and closeness is likely. Learning to balance personal desires and caretaking duties and create their own personal emotional foundation is key

I'm definitely not capable of violence, but I've hit a couple people in my day if they got me to that point (lol). The second description though is spot on. Liberty to do my own thing. I am tied to action and independence. I tend to repel emotionally safe situations. I am a Scorpio for Christ's sake, but I am a magnet for people who are emotionally detached and aloof. If I find someone who has a water venus and mars for example, I feel smothered. I love my freedom. I hate when people stifle it. I love finding a man who is on his own wavelength and who is unafraid of the world. I tend to like men who are twisted in some way, shape or form. They have a dark side. I truly believe everyone has a good side, but it is this belief that normally gets me into trouble in relationships. I want to find the good in everyone when sometimes those people don't want to find the good in themselves and are living their own way. However, I love these people because they too are independent and do their own thing. It's what initially draws me to them. My ideal man...he is an individual. he is intelligent. he is witty. he is on his own wavelength, but his heart is warm and his smile melts all around him. He is a socialite. I am not the best emotionally (Virgo moon). I want a man who contr
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Posted by RumiL
I have Scorpio NN..

It touches my Moon, Jupiter and Pluto.


...all in 5th house!
Wow! So much connects to yours.

Moon conjunct North Node: The need for home, family and emotional security is extra strong. Issues revolving around dependency and nurturing are highlighted. The mother figure (and the nurturing role) have a strong impact on this person's sense of safety. Food may be their security blanket. They're vulnerable to the moods of people in their environment. They may strive to protect themselves or others, and are working on the balance between the two.

Jupiter conjunct North Node: Faith becomes tied to this individual's emotional security. Their beliefs and values will either provide a firm foundation or add to their insecurity and anxiety. They may feel safest when doing something bigger and better or when wheeling and dealing. They could feel torn between establishing roots and having adventure in their lives. Spirituality can be a source of emotional strength.

Pluto conjunct North Node: This person finds security in understanding the depths of their own psyche and other people's. They may be intensely committed to establishing safe emotional foundations. They tend to hang on in relationships, sometimes for too long. Issues of safety and protection may take on life-and-death proportions. Feelings of blame and shame may be connected to nurturing. Sex could be used as a security blanket. Their protective instincts seek psychological understanding. Looking deeper into psyches (their own and others') provides security for this individual.


I used the lunar living site for this one. their descriptions go so much more in-depth. I like the "Food may be their security blanket" portion 😆

Food IS life. I must agree. 🙂
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Moon conjunct North Node: The need for home, family and emotional security is extra strong. Issues revolving around dependency and nurturing are highlighted. The mother figure (and the nurturing role) have a strong impact on this person's sense of safety. Food may be their security blanket. They're vulnerable to the moods of people in their environment. They may strive to protect themselves or others, and are working on the balance between the two.

~~ true...except food part lol.


Jupiter conjunct North Node: Faith becomes tied to this individual's emotional security. Their beliefs and values will either provide a firm foundation or add to their insecurity and anxiety. They may feel safest when doing something bigger and better or when wheeling and dealing. They could feel torn between establishing roots and having adventure in their lives. Spirituality can be a source of emotional strength.

~~ yes...very true. Sometimes with all the talk about Scorpio moon darkness...intensity...drama...and bullshit, I feel maybe its the Jupiter that is making my moon better and more lighter... Especially moreso because it touches the NN..

Pluto conjunct North Node: This person finds security in understanding the depths of their own psyche and other people's. They may be intensely committed to establishing safe emotional foundations. They tend to hang on in relationships, sometimes for too long. Issues of safety and protection may take on life-and-death proportions. Feelings of blame and shame may be connected to nurturing. Sex could be used as a security blanket. Their protective instincts seek psychological understanding. Looking deeper into psyches (their own and others') provides security for this individual.

~~ this is also true.


Thanks for sharing!! 🙂
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Ahhh degenerate, thankyou so much..! I didn't see you posted..

I see.. It is said NN amplifies the energy or traits of the planet it touches...especially if they fall in same house too... That is why you want independence, action and not very emotionally heavy things.. Martian desires I guess 🙂

I need to read more about my aspects though. I agree with whatever was given in second website 🙂

Tbh.. I get confused because my entire chart is almost water and all of it basically wants and desires the same thing more or less lol..
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Posted by starwars
this is so interesting, ive never digged deep into NN aspects before.

my NN in scorpio 8th house (loaded house) - my SN is in taurus.

NN conj Jupiter (in scorpio) trine Mars (in cancer (yikes) )
I know I think this is super interesting too! Mine is so true for me. I want to be more assertive/aggressive/passionate for sure. I need to grasp my Mars energy! Libra dominance and passiveness is truly a ruler of my life. I am slowly kind of evolving into a good even mix....but I'm still horribly passive lol. I try to please everyone when that is NOT a possibility.

My NN is in the 2nd house and SN is in the 8th, so we have a similarity (kind of) there. Interesting 🙂

so NN in Scorpio 8th house...that's so powerful seeing as the 8th house is ruled by Scorpio.

Jupiter conjunct North Node: Faith becomes tied to this individual's emotional security. Their beliefs and values will either provide a firm foundation or add to their insecurity and anxiety. They may feel safest when doing something bigger and better or when wheeling and dealing. They could feel torn between establishing roots and having adventure in their lives. Spirituality can be a source of emotional strength.

This would be for your conjunction.

I haven't looked too much into squares and trines, but I would imagine those would also have an effect. The conjunctions though truly show where and what your changes/karmic fate would be or have to do with.

My NN is square Chiron...I'm sure that's a pain, and it would make sense. My Chiron is conjunct my moon too, so it's just a mess haha.

Technically I have a weak conjunction to NN and Pluto, but I doubt if that one really counts since the orb is so wide. It's 25 degree Scorpio to 3 degree Sag. 8 degrees is pretty wide, but I think that would just make my conjunction weaker.
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Posted by Nevermore
North Node in Cap on 4th house

Mars conjunct South Node: This individual may be fearful or phobic about ever taking the initiative. They could be overly self-critical. Issues are possible surrounding health (especially relating to repression), violence or assertiveness. They may go to extremes (too much or too little) in regards to personal action or physicality. Learning how to care for themselves and others is key.

Neptune conjunct North Node: This person reassures themselves through contact with nature, beauty and other inspirational pursuits. Spiritual connections can be a source of security for them. They may overidealize others in their relationships, or expect too much in nurturing contexts. They feel safest in their own imagination and transcendent talents. They want a magical home life.

Chiron conjunct South Node too

And Mercury square NN
That's so interesting. Ours are opposite! SN conjunct your Mars while my NN is conjunct my Mars. I have the Libra ascendant so I'm building toward that assertiveness. I'm definitely super passive/trying to please everyone due to my Libra ascendant. It's annoying, because I don't want to always be pleasing but then again it's almost like a natural response for me. I like the Neptune one. Neptune is very interesting just as a whole.

My Chiron is square my NN/SN. I wonder what that means for me and also for you to have it conjunct your SN. Maybe your past was a source of a wound, or you were wounded in your past life, and that is what you want to recover from in this life. Since your Chiron may be conjunct your Mars too...Mars could've been the source of that wound. Assertiveness, aggressiveness, and it could be a wound that is still lingering even into this life.

That is my thought, but it could be totally wrong. I am just trying to tie it all into one 🙂

I have Moon conjunct Chiron, so I'm well aware of the pains that Chiron can cause when it touches a planet. It's like an endless hunger for emotional fulfillment that is never completed. It is a constant battle, but I've come to adapt to it.
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Posted by RumiL
Ahhh degenerate, thankyou so much..! I didn't see you posted..

I see.. It is said NN amplifies the energy or traits of the planet it touches...especially if they fall in same house too... That is why you want independence, action and not very emotionally heavy things.. Martian desires I guess 🙂

I need to read more about my aspects though. I agree with whatever was given in second website 🙂

Tbh.. I get confused because my entire chart is almost water and all of it basically wants and desires the same thing more or less lol..
yeah I don't know how I felt about the first site. I'm pretty sure that's the one that said I have random bouts of violence lmao. Which is slightly funny but I don't know if I find that to really be true.

The second website was spot on!

Your NN touches so much, so all of those planets are amplified which makes sense you saying you have a watery chart 🙂 technically my chart is watery too, but air is my second dominant. Fire is my least dominant, but I have that packed first house with Aries energy, so I guess it's an even mix. My top energies are Scorpio (by a long shot), Aquarius, then Aries. It's such a weird mix. All about dichotomy I guess 😆

I wonder how trines and squares go into play for sure, but I think the most prominent and important are the ones we're talking about - the conjunctions! It shows where our life focus is and what is, like you said, amplified.
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Posted by trollbait
NN conjunct moon and Uranus.
The NN conjunct the Moon and Uranus...such totally different energies! That's very cool. Here are those descriptions. Would you say they're relevant? They're either prominent in your life or the focus of your life path. My NN conjunct Mars definitely seems extremely relevant given my chart and what I need to capitalize on (assertiveness and aggression and also passion).

Moon conjunct North Node: The need for home, family and emotional security is extra strong. Issues revolving around dependency and nurturing are highlighted. The mother figure (and the nurturing role) have a strong impact on this person's sense of safety. Food may be their security blanket. They're vulnerable to the moods of people in their environment. They may strive to protect themselves or others, and are working on the balance between the two.

Uranus conjunct North Node: This person probably feels most secure when they're involved with transpersonal issues or when they can do their own thing. They could be inventive in regards to emotional matters and their close, caring connections. Unusual associations are quite possible for them. They might nurture humanity or turn their friends into family. They can be quite emotionally tolerant.

I kind of really like the Uranus conjunction you have. Totally unique and erratic. I love the independence and rebellion that Uranus encompasses. Definitely an energy I love. My father is a super Uranian Aquarius. I have so much respect for that energy! To be conjunct your NN...that's just awesome.
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Posted by Montgomery
Nothing.

But it does square Pluto.

The square is over 4° though and from what I've

read, anything over 2° doesn't count.

It sextiles my moon at just little more than 2°, so

on that point, I'm not certain.


:/
Yeah for smaller aspects I'm not too sure either!

I only have Chiron square NN
Uranus and Neptune semi-square NN.

I feel like the most life-altering (that might be too excessive of a word haha) would be the conjunctions to the NN or SN. If a chart doesn't have that, it means you don't have any issues or need to focus on one area, because your planetary balance isn't "off" in regards to your past life or this life. Even if there's natal squares and whatnot.

I don't even know if that makes sense...hahaha but in my head it makes sense. Especially since I know I'm super passive and Mars conjunct NN makes so much sense. Along with the fact that I strive for that independence/action and kind of an alien to emotions. It flows. I'm definitely emotional...but for the most part it's tied down. My life lessons definitely make sense that Mars is involved in them. I have a packed first house and a passive/diplomatic Libra ascendant. It only makes sense that I need to hone that Mars energy that's packed in my first house. It makes sense in a weird way.
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Posted by Koniucha
Mine is square Mercury and trine Neptune, Mars, and my asc.

Square Chiron too. It is in Leo, 8th house.
I'm not totally sure about the other aspects besides the conjunctions.

I have Chiron square my NN/SN.
Uranus and Neptune semi-square NN.

I think for the most part those are relevant but less of a prominent "focus" of our lives. For example, even though Mercury is square your NN, you may have really strong positive aspects to Mercury elsewhere which doesn't harm your communication style in regards to real world experience. The trines are definitely helpful and are more flowing in your chart, but the square might not be as stressful to the NN as squares are to the planets. That's my take. It could be totally wrong, but having the squares doesn't make or break anything in regards to karma I don't think since we have so much more to our charts that could really balance it out.
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Posted by LibraLovesHim
No idea how to find what I am, it doesnt have this info on the chart I got from astro 😕
it should be! But it may not mark the conjunctions. I'd say anything that is super close orb to your NN or SN is prominent. I wouldn't go beyond like 7 degrees. I don't even count my 8 degree Pluto conjunct NN...it could be prominent, but it would be less prominent than something that is 5 degree distance or closer. The tighter the orb, the more powerful it is 🙂

For example my Mars is 0'10 degrees in Sag
My NN is 3'07 degrees

so it is a orb of a little less than 3. In other words that's a very tight orb. Sometimes astro doesnt always calculate these things for us. Technically a wide orb is up to 10 degrees in distance. I would read anything that is 10 degrees or less, and see if it is relevant to you, because even if it's a wide conjunction it could still have effect on your life. Everyone is different 🙂
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Mercury square NN

Mercury Square North Node: There is conflict between your mental expression and communication and the prevailing social attitudes. You're unable to express yourself clearly and tend to be misunderstood. You often speak out at inappropriate times/places, drawing social scorn.
ooo cool! Where did you find this?

Do you feel that's true? What are other Merc aspects? Do you think other positive aspects could balance this out for you?
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Posted by LostPisces
North Node in Libra (5th) - South Node in Aries (11th)

NN Opposites Mercury and Venus
NN Trines MC
SN Conjunct Mercury and Venus
SN Sextiles MC

Venus and Mercury Conjunct in Aries (11th)
MC in Aquarius

NN is the only one I have with in 5th house
For your conjunctions:

Mercury conjunct South Node: This person may be intellectually insecure (this can manifest itself if the individual feels stupid, has phone phobia, is blocked in terms of reading or other mental arenas) or they might trust only in rationality and logic. They may be fearful or phobic in school, regarding siblings, transportation, media, commerce, etc. Their challenge is to gain security through exercising mental skills and to learn that knowledge can be a bulwark.

Venus conjunct South Node: This person may be fearful about relationships or financial matters. They could feel unloved, poor or blocked in regards to pleasure. They might overdo or underdo (or swing between those extremes) material indulgence and sensuality. Learning to protect and be protected within interpersonal exchanges is key for this individual.

NN trine MC...that would be powerful I would imagine. Especially for your professional life. It brings good karma from your past life. That's very promising. Definitely a good aspect to have I'm sure. Even though it is not a conjunction, a trine to a major axis point is usually very strong.

The conjunctions to your south node seem like they bring difficulties from your past life into this area. If you look at your draconic chart I wonder what that holds in regard to your past life or your "other dimensional" life form. My draconic flows very well with my natal, but I am a super Aquarian in my draconic. It makes sense that my Mars is conjunct NN in that aspect. Maybe something in your draconic chart predicts or explains where this Venus/Mercury conjunction to the SN comes from. Draconic is SO interesting to me. I love it.
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Posted by ElTigre25
Wait I see Neptune conjunct north node.. Meh
Haha Neptune conjunct NN is cool! Dreamy. Intuitive.

Neptune conjunct North Node: This person reassures themselves through contact with nature, beauty and other inspirational pursuits. Spiritual connections can be a source of security for them. They may overidealize others in their relationships, or expect too much in nurturing contexts. They feel safest in their own imagination and transcendent talents. They want a magical home life.

Sigh you always depict this aggressive and assertive personality, but at heart you are the spiritual dreamer. 😉

ok, just joking. Don't kill me.

On the contrary there's me, super passive and just trying to avoid conflict for life when that's where my karmic path wants me to go and develop in that area. Sigh. So stressful. I do want to be more assertive. So does my first house stellium...but...alas...here I am just trying to get by without a fight.

Granted, I accidentally get myself into a lot of conflict anyways, because I kind of just....run my mouth and then people end up getting offended even though I didn't mean it offensively. It makes sense for my NN to be conjunct Mars in so many ways LOL.
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Posted by AbbyNormal
i think my NN touches my moon and chiron, both in gemini in the 12th.. got no clue what that means but...
Is your Moon conjunct Chiron too? Mine is. I love articles on that. Idk if you read my thread...it's so old so I wouldn't even try looking for it now, but it was about the Moon conjunct Chiron and the "endless hunger for emotional fulfillment". Whatever house it lies in...that is where you seek emotional fulfillment, but Chiron stunts that fulfillment. So you're constantly seeking that emotional fulfillment but it never comes. Chiron wounds our emotions. The 12th house adds an interesting twist...since that is where your wound is, but that is where your emotions lie. That would be a battle. Mine is in the 11th house, so I always sought friendship, but friends didn't want me..I was never first choice, but my emotional fulfillment (Moon) desired friendship to become happy and satisfied but Chiron (wound) made that impossible and difficult for me. Friendship was all I wanted, but it is where my deepest wound lies. As we get older, we learn to deal with it and adapt. I have definitely done so, but in my youth, it was very painful to never be accepted.

If that is the case and both also conjunct your NN...that would make this description only half of what goes into play here!

Moon conjunct North Node: The need for home, family and emotional security is extra strong. Issues revolving around dependency and nurturing are highlighted. The mother figure (and the nurturing role) have a strong impact on this person's sense of safety. Food may be their security blanket. They're vulnerable to the moods of people in their environment. They may strive to protect themselves or others, and are working on the balance between the two.

With your wound being there too, it could mean something like you learn to accept the emotional wounds that occasionally come with home living and security. Arguments etc. It all depends what the degrees are here and what is all conjunct.

I'm interested though if you feel similar to me in regards to the Moon/Chiron conjunction if you have it.
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Mercury square NN

Mercury Square North Node: There is conflict between your mental expression and communication and the prevailing social attitudes. You're unable to express yourself clearly and tend to be misunderstood. You often speak out at inappropriate times/places, drawing social scorn.
ooo cool! Where did you find this?

Do you feel that's true? What are other Merc aspects? Do you think other positive aspects could balance this out for you?
http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ggajic/pub/mirrors/www.geocities.com/rbltre/astro/measnn.html
Awesome thanks! I'm definitely going to check this out for future reference.
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North Node in Libra (5th) - South Node in Aries (11th)

NN Opposites Mercury and Venus
NN Trines MC
SN Conjunct Mercury and Venus
SN Sextiles MC

Venus and Mercury Conjunct in Aries (11th)
MC in Aquarius

NN is the only one I have with in 5th house
For your conjunctions:

Mercury conjunct South Node: This person may be intellectually insecure (this can manifest itself if the individual feels stupid, has phone phobia, is blocked in terms of reading or other mental arenas) or they might trust only in rationality and logic. They may be fearful or phobic in school, regarding siblings, transportation, media, commerce, etc. Their challenge is to gain security through exercising mental skills and to learn that knowledge can be a bulwark.

Venus conjunct South Node: This person may be fearful about relationships or financial matters. They could feel unloved, poor or blocked in regards to pleasure. They might overdo or underdo (or swing between those extremes) material indulgence and sensuality. Learning to protect and be protected within interpersonal exchanges is key for this individual.

NN trine MC...that would be powerful I would imagine. Especially for your professional life. It brings good karma from your past life. That's very promising. Definitely a good aspect to have I'm sure. Even though it is not a conjunction, a trine to a major axis point is usually very strong.

The conjunctions to your south node seem like they bring difficulties from your past life into this area. If you look at your draconic chart I wonder what that holds in regard to your past life or your "other dimensional" life form. My draconic flows very well with my natal, but I am a super Aquarian in my draconic. It makes sense that my Mars is conjunct NN in that aspect. Maybe something in your draconic chart predicts or explains where this Venus/Mercury conjunction to the SN comes from. Draconic is SO interesting to me. I love it.
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Thanks, I really feel powerful at work, I dont fear any challenge.

In pernonal life I always felt rather insecure but then I met my wife! And all changed, still there, I am still lost pisces, but I almost dont felt it anymore.

In Darconic I Have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Virgo, Moon in Libra, Pluto in Aries and Saturn in Aquarius