The truth about water signs (Page 6)

I have a birthday therefore I have a sign. I don't believe in signs or birthdays. therefore I had to make a stance against it. once people accept my biased value of having no sign I will be neutral with them. I'm being personally attacked because my stance against astrology. what's the attacks stop the preaching stops. once the attacks begin the preaching begins. all that is needed is I disagree with the OP. but because things got personal I got preachy. and it's going to stay that way if it is that way.

my biased opinions are worth defending when under personal attack. I'm not striving to be neutral within the universe nor do I believe I have absolute truth . but relative to you all and relative to my beliefs, I do desire and strive for neutrality in this context. keeping my opinionated beliefs in tact.

MoonMan, I do believe his statement about being raised to believe astrology is demonic, and then how everyone supposedly supported what he was raised with, was a duck and dodge ploy so he could continue to evade my observation as to why he started all of this to begin with.

SunScorpio, yes, the cuss words....had to be the woman who used gratuitous cussing since everyone else was avoiding it. But I do love a good swear fest now and then. It really wasn't meant to be personal, just...gratuitous and frivolous with a good dose of tongue in cheek winkery. FUCK!!!

I might need to have that tic checked out.

the truth is I started this so I would not be attracted to any woman on the site. and with all the spewing hate from some women here I say I'm doing a good job. not being attached emotionally will allow me to be even more neutral to the people of astrology and any other pagan practice.

as you can see it all points to pure neutrality.

so in conclusion why did I skim the cancer board? to see if anyone was putting any astrological strongholds on me. when I saw this thread has some new replies I had to neutralize the stronghold. once this thread dies down we will be neutral again and you won't hear from me until the next personal attack.

the end until next time. and next time really depends on you all .

Posted by PVAF
I'm a Pisces and easily amused. There's no way that I take the OP seriously. LOL. He's clearly trolling. But it's a good read Thanks for the entertainment. 😉

that's all all of you had to say. and this thread would have ended on page 1. no personal attacks. they think I'm trolling which could be argued as true. gave their opinion and gave their feedback. and that was that.

they didn't take my post seriously but that doesn't mean it wasn't true. so while it was not true for him/her, alot of you made it true for yourselves. until you can accept a similar attitude as this poster, this thread will be the blueprint of your demise... and of course you don't have to believe that but that is entirely up to you.

in response to Moon Man

I see what you're saying but you have to understand, many posts have come and gone on this website. how come one of my first post generated so much hatred? it is because it is obvious I'm against astrology. if people are opposed to my first post, it's likely to assume that the people in the real world would feel the same way if they had a chance to vocalize. therefore I post and talk here as if I'm talking to people in the real world. and since I am a member of the real world, I feel that the practice of talking to you all is transferable to meeting with people in real life. to explain myself to you is to explain myself to all.

therefore since this is the place where real world people go to talk about astrology, and because I have been given astrological expectations, this seems to be the place to deny those expectations of me. once the general populace remove those expectations from me I will remove my preaching to them. my presence here is en route to somewhere else.

I am NOT a Scorpio that's why I chose the name. it is to mock the frivolity of the expectations that a simple birthday can have on someone.

if I wanted to manipulate someone don't you think I would be a little more subtle about it.
if stating my opinion is considered bigotry well I dare say there's a lot of bigotry going around here.

it's amazing how you see such deception and manipulation and my agenda, but what could I stand to gain from an angry onslaught of strangers. perhaps it is you who sees the possibility of manipulation in this, and you're curious to see if this phenomenon can help you build any future manipulative strategies

it is my truth which you are interpreted as my opinion.

I picked a username. I don't think that qualifies as pretending to be something.

there's one of me and hundreds of you how on earth could I have manipulated any of this. again I did not resurrect this thread but yet and still generated more replies.

I'm not trying to get you all to act according to how I believe, I am simply defending myself from being involved in any of your personally. that is evident when you all perform your personal attacks, well I refrain from returning them. if I am being manipulative because I'm trying to be neutral with you all personally, I don't see any harm with that at all.

I will voice my beliefs because I progress within my beliefs, if you want to argue rationally about them then so be it. if you want be personal about it which you all have been , then yes, I will be manipulative so that I can remain neutral to you personally

for better and for worse , not one of you are worth my personal investment, at least not intentionally. I say what I say to clear my own mind while remaining detached. I am being manipulative yes I am manipulating myself so that I will remain neutral while holding my beliefs

I fully embrace every evil, dark, brightly humorous, utterly talented, twisted, strange, complex, and wonderful thing about myself. Booya for being a triple Cancer! Now, jest to be certain of your suggestion, am I to assume you set all of this up as an attempt to convince yourself that despite overwhelming evidence to how many water signs make good matches you are trying to contrive yourself into thinking you DON'T want a water sign? Or are you now saying that you came on here to convince yourself how much you don't need people when in fact you MIGHT be an extremely lonely person? Perhaps you are secretly surprised at how accurate astrology can be but are trying to convince yourself otherwise, trying to hold onto old ideas that were indoctrinated into you early in life?

One thing is for sure, you're trying very hard to repeat how neutral and all you are...and those that repeat are usually trying to convince themselves more than they are their audience.

As for "hate"...I haven't seen any real hate towards you. Some catty swipes, jabs and pokes, yes, but that doesn't equate "hate".

to moon artist, good post.

this thread does serve multiple purposes. as you can see my reasoning for existence changes but yeah it does point to one thing. I'm using this as a filter, to expose behavior without being among the people of the behavior. is that manipulation? No. people willingly join this site, and people willingly respond to this thread.

I really just wanted to leave a passing comment, but and now surprised by the vitriol, the support, that interest, and even you and Moon Mans interview style of questioning. as a person behind the post, I am just as intrigued by you alls responses, as you all are intrigue or annoyed by this thread and my existence. it has been and is a phenomenon to me as well. so it has been worth discovering, but not worth personally investing in.

all of those things you said about relationships, astrological accuracy, and holding on to my previous believes, those things would be true. however, because of how this thread has unfolded, I feel like I have been threatened with a knife for saying that my favorite color is blue. when things have gotten so personal so fast,my main goal is to have nothing to do with those involved. even if you are right, my ultimate goal is that, from my point of view, you arent even...at all. I literally don't know anyone from this site, nor have I gotten to know anyone in a respectful manner. all I know in relation to this site is my beliefs, which is why I'm defending them... even if they are wrong, at least I know I won't pull a knife on myself, unlike some of you.
if anyone here had a million dollars to give me, or the best woman in the world to hook me up with, I wouldn't take it. that's just how personally dishonorable you all have been to my passing opinion. me and my view is the only thing I have on this corner of the Internet, and from you guys perspective, that's all I'll ever have, regardless of any underlying issue.
I made this thread, I stay in this thread, in terms of this site I haven't met or seen anything or anyone else yet. until I have a formal discussion or have a formal meeting, that's how was going to stay.

neutrality,yes. and if that's a delusion, I'll neutralize that fact as well.

lonely? ha u jest again. apparently I have too many people around me.

loneliness occurs when spirits are around you, but there's nobody to encompass. them. so what I like to do is get rid of the spirits, so that I can be alone in peace. this is similar to what I'm striving to do with in this thread, so that I can have astrological peace.

Well, I'll give you kuddos for being honest. You keep contradicting yourself, though. You say you're intrigued but you want to stay detached and neutral. You want to maintain your beliefs, which is your right, but you put them out there and then don't like that others don't agree with you. That's just how life IS. Some are on the same page and others aren't. You seem to be a truth seeker but then state that you'll defend your beliefs even if you know they're wrong simply as a mode of self preservation. One moment you admit some have been fair and not caustic and then you lump everyone together as being dishonorable.

Ultimately you sought interaction and then stand firm in how much of an island you want to be. Here's a little clue to people: no matter how introverted and "loner" they are, every single person on the planet needs some form of human connection. We're simply wired for it, we crave it and the more we try to deny it, hide it and stand alone, the more miserable we make ourselves in the long term.

And I don't know if you had someone else write for you on these last two posts, but I'm noticing that your writing style changed. That's just an observation.

The more I'm personally analyzed, the more I will appear to be contradicting myself. All I'm doing at any post, is projecting a wall of ideals between me and whoever I happen to be talking to. I don't care if everyone one on this site has me "figured out", I'm not going to accept any induction or rejection, but return to my initial premise--a man with a passing opinion... no personal analysis is needed.

By the time this thread goes down, I want it to be as if the onslaught of replies never happend, as if I never met anyone here, as if no serious discussion about the topic has been had (which it hasn't), and as if I hadn't learn anything from the experience (which I haven't). In that regard, there is no contradiction.

I hold to my beliefs firmly because it was very clear since the beginning, that no one was interested in actually debating the topic, but instead wanted to probe the creator of it. I'm definetly not interested in a "getting to know you" session with any of you, so the only thing I have left to do is self-presevere. This includes defending my ideals.

"Ultimately you sought interaction and then stand firm in how much of an island you want to be. Here's a little clue to people: no matter how introverted and "loner" they are, every single person on the planet needs some form of human connection. We're simply wired for it, we crave it and the more we try to deny it, hide it and stand alone, the more miserable we make ourselves in the long term."

1. WHere is one example where I sought interaction on here?

2. I do believe in being connected to other people. I don't believe in being connected to people though. Think about that.

In other words, I got to get to know you as an individual before I consider myself to be connected to you. To be connected to people because of some superficial concept such as an astrological sign, race, preference, etc... those are false connections.

If I'm not with you, but you know of me, it means I have deliberately chosen not to be with you. Thus, it would be better that you consider yourself my enemy.

I have fully accepted my stance, thus I don't need to probe or get to know anyone on here. WHen you guys get to that level, then perhaps, we can try this abstract, adult conversation another day.

PeacefulCancer, thank you. ~bows~

On the contrary, SunScorpio, by posting here and asking for opinions you sought interaction. If you didn't want interaction then you could have sat behind the computer and never made the post. Touche!

Yes, I fully understand the difference between connecting to an individual vs. having a broad association with a group of people.

You can disagree all you want, that's your right, but I stand behind my assessment that you're lonely, hate that you're lonely, want someone to connect with but hate that you want it and you're afraid of letting anyone get too close because that makes a person vulnerable. I get it. I'm a triple Cancer so I REALLY get it. What I've found in life is that people are generally not terribly bad, that we're all trying to balance living and life with social interaction, jobs, school, etc. and challenges that crop up along the way. Maybe some have more baggage than others. We make friends, find a partner, whatever the case may be, and sometimes we get hurt and betrayed by them. Despite that there's always a wealth of friends and family who don't betray and how stand firmly by your side. I choose to focus on the positive as much as possible because there's always going to be negative crap in life and why add to the crap by feeling utterly crappy about it. How you choose to deal with it is your own business, but until you face your own fears, etc. you will forever be controlled by them.

Posted by MoonArtist
PeacefulCancer, thank you. ~bows~

On the contrary, SunScorpio, by posting here and asking for opinions you sought interaction. If you didn't want interaction then you could have sat behind the computer and never made the post. Touche!

Yes, I fully understand the difference between connecting to an individual vs. having a broad association with a group of people.

You can disagree all you want, that's your right, but I stand behind my assessment that you're lonely, hate that you're lonely, want someone to connect with but hate that you want it and you're afraid of letting anyone get too close because that makes a person vulnerable. I get it. I'm a triple Cancer so I REALLY get it. What I've found in life is that people are generally not terribly bad, that we're all trying to balance living and life with social interaction, jobs, school, etc. and challenges that crop up along the way. Maybe some have more baggage than others. We make friends, find a partner, whatever the case may be, and sometimes we get hurt and betrayed by them. Despite that there's always a wealth of friends and family who don't betray and how stand firmly by your side. I choose to focus on the positive as as possible because there's always going to be negative crap in life and why add to the crap by feeling utterly crappy about it. How you choose to deal with it is your own business, but until you face your own fears, etc. you will forever be controlled by them.

gather round folks, here we have a water sign trying to project right into my very mind. I have went from being manipulative to being deceitful, to try to pick up girls and now to being lonely. how come no water sign has said anything positive about my intentions? it is because if they can plant a negative concept into my mind I will begin to drown and be on their level.

I made this thread to dispel any strong hold any stranger will put on me, like you are trying to do now.

lonely? I've literally rejected every one who's ever posted here. both good and is long but necessary. bad. why are you here? are you lonely?

the work of dispelling these random strongholds. you see it right here first and folks. the truth about water signs . tisk tisk tisk.

I'm not projecting into your mind. I'm analyzing your posts using your own words and actions. I never said you were deceitful, so don't put words into my mouth. As for picking up girls, that came from your own post. Sink or swim, its not my business which you choose. For me, I always swim. I'm half mermaid, a water baby. Doesn't matter how big the storm and waves I always manage to swim.

I haven't put a stronghold or anything else on you. Read my first two sentences. As for lonely, that's just my opinion based on your responses. Why am I here? Because I like people and I always find something interesting going on. Sometimes online friends become real life friends and I love it. Why? Because I'm social by nature and generally have a positive outlook on life.

By the way, your use of capitals at the start of sentences has slipped again....and it's tsk tsk. 😉

aww I knew you were going to start analyzing my grammar. you continue to analyze me instead of analyzing my basic point. which I've repeated over and over, here it is again... I will hold on to my beliefs unless they are formally challenged, I I am not interested in personal analysis in either direction, and I'm striving to neutralize this whole event. everything else in between such as grammar, slight inconsistencies and contradictions, and mood of my personal life is immaterial in context to this website.

if you must know I'm using a speech to text program. it does not handle punctuation well, so if you're ready to pick up the grammar stronghold, you can put that down as well.


later on I'm going to start volume 2, titled... how to get rid of a water sign.

here's a preview of volume 2,

how do you get rid of water? do you shoot it? can you stab it? can you punch it?no. it always comes back. the only way to get rid of water is to drain it. when you want to get rid of water sign you have to slowly drain their energy. I haven't had to do this in life, the water signs in my life have learned to stream around me. but you may want into a situation where the water sign just won't leave your emotional territory. this is when you begin to drain their energy.

notice how I said energy, I didn't say drain their emotions. they have an unlimited supply of that. if you want to get rid of a water sign, you have to construct as many physical hurdles as you can, so that they will drain their energy, this allows them to use their emotions ineffectively in the real world . once their physical energy has been depleted, they will move on to a different emotional territory and find another victim that doesn't require so much physical work.
make a ton of physical real world requests in honor of their emotional claims. and once they can't match the physical effort with their emotional declarations, they will surrender

I picked up on the grammar inconsistencies (and there's more than what I pointed out) because it's a pattern and sign that more than one person is typing under the same user name and I have yet to make an opinion on if you're a troll or real. Picking up on patterns is one of my specialties and it's what makes me good at what I do.

I haven't challenged any of your negative opinions on water signs. I know they exist and that some people have more than others and I'm ok with that. I accept it. We're all human and all the signs have their own faults. I think you grossly exaggerate and generalize but I really don't care if you do. I zeroed in on your post about what you want in a woman because it doesn't fit the general theme of why you posted in the first place. As I see it, the real post and reason is usually hidden in the middle so the others act as decoy. It's the hidden in plain sight tactic. I stated above that patterns are my specialty.

Posted by MoonArtist
I picked up on the grammar inconsistencies (and there's more than what I pointed out) because it's a pattern and sign that more than one person is typing under the same user name and I have yet to make an opinion on if you're a troll or real. Picking up on patterns is one of my specialties and it's what makes me good at what I do.

I haven't challenged any of your negative opinions on water signs. I know they exist and that some people have more than others and I'm ok with that. I accept it. We're all human and all the signs have their own faults. I think you grossly exaggerate and generalize but I really don't care if you do. I zeroed in on your post about what you want in a woman because it doesn't fit the general theme of why you posted in the first place. As I see it, the real post and reason is usually hidden in the middle so the others act as decoy. It's the hidden in plain sight tactic. I stated above that patterns are my specialty.

okay was nice to hear your thoughts about my topic. and as far as what I want in a woman, I'm sure that has likely changed by now.

one thing is for sure, I don't want an astrological woman.


again it's nice to finally hear your thoughts about my original premise.

Here's the funny thing about astrology: it's just a really old method of personality typing. It can't change your future or your past, it just tells you what your personality is. The modern version would be something like Jung typology and the Miggs Breyer test. I have a keen interest in personality and how the pieces fit together to make each person unique but similar. Part of that is because if you can understand how a person thinks/feels/acts then you're more likely to be able to have good communication and less likely to have misunderstandings. I'm sure some people delve deeper into the mystical aspect of astrology and that's a whole other beast.

I see. I am from the school of thought that the puzzle is the problem. people have types and signs because society needs them for a certain role. Society creates the type. society is the flaw. . if a person wasn't down by social logical expectations, they could be any sign, any type, and anything.

Society is better at putting people into boxes in the context of broad sociological patterns (race, geology, class, etc.), and I'm not saying that it's a good thing, just that people do it. The reason personality doesn't fit that bill is that personality, no matter if it's found and labeled through astrology or some other method, is NOT subject to race, sex, class, etc. Personality typing is a way to explain why some people get along better and understand each other better than others do. If people choose to study another person's personality they can strive for getting along better.

I think society confused getting along with someone, with simply tolerating someone. if I know what to avoid in your personality, I will do so. but all the while I could have an ulterrior disastrous motive... as we "get along". after race, gender, and personality, we have the real person with their truths and beliefs. and those beliefs could be completely opposite from the external factors. this is why im pretty much against all external measuring devices such as Myers Briggs and astrology. if I'm going to measure a man I'll measure him by his core beliefs and values independent of any external factors. that takes time and genuine interest to do, and internet and social media is pretty much a disastrous tool to build that relationship

If one is getting to know someone based on personality only then yes, of course its disastrous. Once you know a person and judge them by character you can find a use for knowing a personality better (be it for the workplace or marriage, etc). Social media works fine for building that. I know because I've made many real friends through it and have met many in person. They might be scattered around the globe but that doesn't make them less human or less real than if some of your relatives move to another country or state.

look at the universe. Now back to yourself. Now back to the universe. Now back to yourself. Sadly you are not the universe. but if you could become your beliefs and values you could be the universe. what's your hand. Now back to yourself. it's that human thing you have to do today. now look again. that human thing you have to do today is now diamonds. anything could be possible if you could be your truth values. I'm on a Web site.

what that adage means is, without physical restraints what would you be? . would you be evil? Would you be good? Would you be manipulative? Would you be kind? that is who you truly are, aside from all physical restraints. anything physical including your human form irrelevant to your beliefs and values.

the source of my beliefs and values come from reality. if someone is being truthful and kind to me, I return and be truthful and kind to them. if I am being deceptive and manipulative, weather I've done serious damage to someone or not. my white lies or wondering eyes have realeased negative energy into the world. so I do what I can to compensate for that discrepancy, regardless of consequences or the lack thereof. the entire universe and everything about it is the mirror of my beliefs, and no violation or contribution goes on noticed.

beliefs are not chosen, they are given. your interaction with the universe will determine what you're able to believe. consequently you become your beliefs and values. because you are your beliefs and values, everything else is just a mirror of it. its not that my beliefs are better than anyone elses, its just that my beliefs are the only beliefs in my universe. and each individual should regard theirt beliefs in that same way. as I just myself in the mirror of the universe, my beliefs will change as well. but there is no need to adjust myself in another man's mirror, for his reflection is not my own. and it would be foolish for either of us to expect similar reflections.

as long as I just myself to the reflection of my universe I feel that my beliefs are solid. as my universe teachers me new things I'll continue to adjust. if someone has a problem with my beliefs, which are the only things i truly have, its likely because they have forsaken their own universal mirror, and are confused thinking that I am their reflection. for me to compare my beliefs with someone elses, would cause me to fall into the same fallacy

you only need to be connected to people for basic human reasons such as food clothing and shelter. when it comes to your beliefs and values you can be as free from them as you like. in fact it's what you should strive for because this where you truly are. the only reason why one would limit their freedom, is because they're trying to make physical properties their value. this is the deception that occurs when people for sake their values. they abandoned what they feel to be true, and because they are designed to believe in something, they settle and value their physical properties such as race gender age and astrological sign.

MoonMan, thank you! That summed it up perfectly.

I'll say this, though. There IS a certain grain of truth in his last few posts. We all have our own value systems and we adjust them according to our environment and experiences. The kink in SunScorpio's idea is that he would have everyone be a solitary island to themselves when in fact it's more complicated than that.

I like people (until someone proves to be a jerk) and connecting with people allows sharing of ideas, ideals, thoughts, opinions, etc.

I mean, so what?
if you want to ask me a question, but then give me my answer, what was the point of asking? do you really think this is how you're supposed to do a discussion? your little slippery debater yourself you know. how are you going to ask me a question, but then when I give you the answer you replace my words and tell me my true answer? why I asked me the question in the first place then? even if my answer is "wrong" , I still believe it's right, because it came from my heart and it came from my soul. you can tell me what I mean. you can't tell me what I believe.

the truth is you want my answers to fit your perception of me, which again is dangerous because you need to analyze your own universe, to get a prospective of what's going on from your point of view. you are anybody else here will never have anything to do with my life. I can answer anyway I want. I can say I believe in the Bible I can say I can't believe in trees. you don't see me analyzing you when your question do you? it was supposed to be having a discussion let me have my answer while you have your questions.

again I'm here to not be here. when I see these little bait and trap questions like this, I refute both the question and questioner, confirming that any involvement in either is not a good use of my time. initially it was a temptation to go with the flow and accept astrology my private life. But now that temptation has been removed after seeing the people behind these posts. so now in the real world I have even more motivation to reject astrological vices, thanks to you all.

just because someone doesn't smoke it doesn't mean the smoking doesn't affect them. I'm not a subscriber to astrology but yet astrological forces do affect my daily life. I'm exposing water signs here because water signs tend to be prominent on internet forums. I'm against all signs. I refute air sign in their intellectual circuits, I refute fire signs in the competitive and leadership circuits, and I refute to sign in their community circuits. I don't only pick on water signs, you guys are that special.
so yeah that's pretty much why this thread exists, so that it will actively not exist. even if I do believe the Bible, its my choice to believe the Bible. a Bible doesn't make you do anything, your true beliefs will always dictate what youll ultimately do. the purpose of the Bible, is to bring people closer to God, and God is the creator of the universe, so to be a part of the universe

so to be part of the universe according to the Bible is to be a part of God. is that in a better answer for you? Its not a good idea to scan my every word and look for "walking contradictions." like I said my beliefs change based on my interaction with my universe. you see discrepancies in my beliefs because your examing the ever-changing DNA of my beliefs. what i suggest you focus on is my belief towards you and anyone else on this site, that ultimately I'll spend a virtual life time actively negating and neutralizing any effect that anything on this site could ever have in my life... my universe. there's no discrepancies in that particular belief, and it would be something if the analysis could be kept to that.

so this is my answer. If you feel the need to change it to fit your perspective, it would be a bit more responsible if you held on to that premise, instead of looking for a right or wrong answer from me. I'm not interested in being a reflection in your universe.

So, you are refuting anything to do with astrology in your life, and that's fine, that's your prerogative, but you said that you avoid all contact with water signs in your life and only associate with Earth, Air and Fire. Now you're saying that you are further pushing away astrology in your life, again, that's your choice and you're more than free to do this, but you're sticking around a heavily astrology based forum, and with water signs no less!, to discuss the invalidness of astrology and to pick apart the negative aspects of the water sign personalities. Interesting.

Want to know what's so fucking hilarious about that? Because right now I have a Mona Lisa smile at this little quirk....you have just shown how very contradictory and complicated you are in a very water sign way. Come here you slippery, watery water baby and give the group a hug! We still love you no matter how hard you try to flee because you can't change who and what you are. You can only make choices for good or bad, which is an entirely different thing altogether. 😉

I think Squishy is going to be your new nick name around here, SunScorpio. I, Pirate Sun Goddess, do dub thee, Sir SunScorpio, to be Squishy. Hail Sir Squishy and arise to face the watery depths before thee!

this again?

Shhhhhh, you'll scare off Squishy!

Posted by MoonArtist
So, you are refuting anything to do with astrology in your life, and that's fine, that's your prerogative, but you said that you avoid all contact with water signs in your life and only associate with Earth, Air and Fire. Now you're saying that you are further pushing away astrology in your life, again, that's your choice and you're more than free to do this, but you're sticking around a heavily astrology based forum, and with water signs no less!, to discuss the invalidness of astrology and to pick apart the negative aspects of the water sign personalities. Interesting.

Want to know what's so fucking hilarious about that? Because right now I have a Mona Lisa smile at this little quirk....you have just shown how very contradictory and complicated you are in a very water sign way. Come here you slippery, watery water baby and give the group a hug! We still love you no matter how hard you try to flee because you can't change who and what you are. You can only make choices for good or bad, which is an entirely different thing altogether. 😉

The only reason i'm "here" is because I have been conjured up here. I don't hang around this forum, I've only ever posted in this thread. WHen this thread was dead, I was gone. I have to actively not be here. Otherwise, my silence is taken as an acceptence to the labels you wonderful watersigns keep trying to place on me. For example, don't call me squishy, I refute that too. My nickname is purely for reference only, I have no identifiable value to anyone on this site. Take my ideals and run

If you look hard enough, you'll notice that's all I've been doing. Refuting labels. promoting my ideals, and welcoming a discussion of those said ideals. I haven't bonded, hung around, or even enjoyed the company or presence of anyone here. I just realize this process is necessary if I want to achieve true momentum. Though this thread has been here for years, due to the constant process of refuting, I haven't gone beyond day one.

I'll admit, when I wasn't astrologically strong enough, I did hang out with other elements. But eventually, I began refuting them as well. THe same process that happens here, happens among them.

And if you guys call this love towards me, under no circumstances do I accept it. If anything, I encourage you to change it to hate. I have a feeling that's more of what I'm looking for.

So, to be clear, the only way I would be willing to think about being interested in being identifiable to anyone on this site, is if we had a good, fair, and formal conversation about ideals first. Then I may consider the fact that you might exist, from my perspective. You guys are putting the cart before the horse--trying to get personal without going through the door of my ideals. If you're not willing to formally discuss a man's beliefs (whether you think he's delusional, inconsistent, or incorrect), then you don't deserve to be indentified with that man. You guy's wouldn't even know of me, had I not presented my ideals first, so we'd have to start there inorder to achieve a true meeting of the person behind those ideals

Just a little Discussion 101.

This is one of those situations where the argument is right but the reasoning is wrong. Water signs are not all out to manipulate and fuck. I'm sorry but this just is not ever going to be true no matter how many logical connections you create. A lot of water signs have high aspirations and ambitions, hence why there are many famous and successful ones. No one let this guys good argument cloud the truth, we are who we want to be. You can be a water sign and still be a person of integrity and achieve inner peace. Nothing, including astrology, limits us.

And of course its the water signs who reply, it is the water signs you are patronizing. People naturally experience the world with the perception that the world revolves around them, because that is somewhat how we are designed to experience life. The fact is had you said every earth sign is a materialistic pleasure seeker they would have jumped on you. You are good at what you do though 😉

Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide
This is one of those situations where the argument is right but the reasoning is wrong. Water signs are not all out to manipulate and fuck. I'm sorry but this just is not ever going to be true no matter how many logical connections you create. A lot of water signs have high aspirations and ambitions, hence why there are many famous and successful ones. No one let this guys good argument cloud the truth, we are who we want to be. You can be a water sign and still be a person of integrity and achieve inner peace. Nothing, including astrology, limits us.

You're not going to believe this, but that's been my message all along.

And I disagree, I bet if I made a post like this concerning earth signs, they would have laughed it off, agreed, disagreed, but would have definetly moved on by now. The issue in this case is that at this point, water signs are only reconfirming my original premise, volunatrily. I'm just here to confirm their willing desicion, and thus denying that desicion within myself. In this thread, you'll either evaporate or drown.

Choose evaporation.

The sad reality is, water signs are a victim of their own manipulation. Water signs are responding in this thread simply because they want to manipulate it. But in this case, its like a paradox. They fail to realize that by posting here, they are being manipulated by trying to manipulate the thread. The thread rises to the top, they try to shut it down via manipulation, but my non participation increases the landscape they have to manipulate. Thus the manipulators become the manipulated. The thread rises and the cycle repeats.


All you guys gotta do is stop responding. After you do that, then you can properly denounce astrology, like I have. THis thread does serve one good purpose though. If all the manipulators are being manipulated here, thats a few less pounds of manipulative energy that isnt being used for destructive purposes elsewhere. Looks like I built myself a little prision for emotional, manipulative prisioners....for water signs.


The prision is voluntary of course, so your punishment is fair. Come on in!

You know I gotta be hard on you guys. Individually, you're extremely weak, but as a collective, your one of the most powerful destructive forces on the planet. But now that I have my dam in place, you guys can continue to voluntarily produce me some good old fashioned eeee lectriicciityy.

**smells the manipulation in the thread....

**backs away....

Awwww, Squishy!!! You came back home!!! I was starting to worry you didn't like us.

Posted by SunScorpio

Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide
This is one of those situations where the argument is right but the reasoning is wrong. Water signs are not all out to manipulate and fuck. I'm sorry but this just is not ever going to be true no matter how many logical connections you create. A lot of water signs have high aspirations and ambitions, hence why there are many famous and successful ones. No one let this guys good argument cloud the truth, we are who we want to be. You can be a water sign and still be a person of integrity and achieve inner peace. Nothing, including astrology, limits us.

You're not going to believe this, but that's been my message all along.

And I disagree, I bet if I made a post like this concerning earth signs, they would have laughed it off, agreed, disagreed, but would have definetly moved on by now. The issue in this case is that at this point, water signs are only reconfirming my original premise, volunatrily. I'm just here to confirm their willing desicion, and thus denying that desicion within myself. In this thread, you'll either evaporate or drown.

Choose evaporation.

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Then a good message it is.

Posted by SunScorpio
The sad reality is, water signs are a victim of their own manipulation. Water signs are responding in this thread simply because they want to manipulate it. But in this case, its like a paradox. They fail to realize that by posting here, they are being manipulated by trying to manipulate the thread. The thread rises to the top, they try to shut it down via manipulation, but my non participation increases the landscape they have to manipulate. Thus the manipulators become the manipulated. The thread rises and the cycle repeats.


All you guys gotta do is stop responding. After you do that, then you can properly denounce astrology, like I have. THis thread does serve one good purpose though. If all the manipulators are being manipulated here, thats a few less pounds of manipulative energy that isnt being used for destructive purposes elsewhere. Looks like I built myself a little prision for emotional, manipulative prisioners....for water signs.


The prision is voluntary of course, so your punishment is fair. Come on in!

You know I gotta be hard on you guys. Individually, you're extremely weak, but as a collective, your one of the most powerful destructive forces on the planet. But now that I have my dam in place, you guys can continue to voluntarily produce me some good old fashioned eeee lectriicciityy.

I think its a balance point. You can enjoy the joys and pains of being a water sign without manipulating. I know a lot who do. You don't have to denounce astrology to do it either. Just remember that you are you, not your sign. Every human being is unique, astrology is just a skeleton and who we are is our guts and skin.

i never threatened to leave, but I sure hope alot of you guys do.

I can't make you hate me, but I can deny any positive affection from you

I'm not contradicting myself, I'm protecting myself and moving on in all areas. To the observer it appears to be a contradiction.

I don't know if you understand what a strong hold is. A strong hold is when someone labels you as something, and then lives as if their label is true. At that point, to ignore it is to be a victim of it. Someone tried to label me as something in the thread of my opinion. Thus I had to remove the label (and the series of subsequent labels).


I never made any effort or showed interest in meeting anyone. Thats why I feel the right and the obligation to sever any ties, whether they be good, bad, strong, weak, important, insignificant.

You guys don't know how to have a formal, objective discussion, then you don't deserve to have anything to do with the participants thereof.

Be entertained, talk about cheese, don't take me seriously. As long as I'm not deliberately attached anyone else here, we all win.

And no, I don't like you guys

Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide

Posted by SunScorpio
The sad reality is, water signs are a victim of their own manipulation. Water signs are responding in this thread simply because they want to manipulate it. But in this case, its like a paradox. They fail to realize that by posting here, they are being manipulated by trying to manipulate the thread. The thread rises to the top, they try to shut it down via manipulation, but my non participation increases the landscape they have to manipulate. Thus the manipulators become the manipulated. The thread rises and the cycle repeats.


All you guys gotta do is stop responding. After you do that, then you can properly denounce astrology, like I have. THis thread does serve one good purpose though. If all the manipulators are being manipulated here, thats a few less pounds of manipulative energy that isnt being used for destructive purposes elsewhere. Looks like I built myself a little prision for emotional, manipulative prisioners....for water signs.


The prision is voluntary of course, so your punishment is fair. Come on in!

You know I gotta be hard on you guys. Individually, you're extremely weak, but as a collective, your one of the most powerful destructive forces on the planet. But now that I have my dam in place, you guys can continue to voluntarily produce me some good old fashioned eeee lectriicciityy.

I think its a balance point. You can enjoy the joys and pains of being a water sign without manipulating. I know a lot who do. You don't have to denounce astrology to do it either. Just remember that you are you, not your sign. Every human being is unique, astrology is just a skeleton and who we are is our guts and skin.

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Hey!!! Somebody gets it!!!!!

Hey water signs, analyze this poster instead. They get the point I'm trying to make.

Posted by CluelessCancer
why isn't this thread deleted yet? feeding the troll i see.

why yes you are

CC, because Squishy is FUN to play with. He doesn't like us but I think I like him. He's a fungi....sort of grows on ya. 😉