Cap Men and Taurus Women

Anyone have any information on how good of a pair this is?

I haven't really read too much into it.

MyCap

Curious too, I have had some great conversations with cappi's lately, and can really appreciate them. I think one thing that connects us is the earth. I would like to hear more though.

It's more interesting hearing it from real "people" with experience. It just says we both love $ $ $ & are hot in bed together.

I guess the caps are part animal, lol, grrrrrrrrrr

This has been a mind boggling experience. I read through mycaps blog about her Cappy and she could have been writing about my cappy. I am also a Taurus and have been involved with a Cappy for the last 3 months. We were great friends before we get together and went through some really intense bumps along the way. My advice to other Taurus Goddesses dating caps, be straight forward about what you want and they will respect you (providing they have strong mothers). Also, yes they get depressed and that is probably why they aren't calling, if you don't mind a moopy, blah guy hang out with them and get them laughing. I bring over a funny movie or show like the "family guy". I also call him on it and say that it doesnt really bother me cause I am used to it, which is NOW true it wasn't before and I told him so....I said I need consistancy and he listened. These are some sweet, shy men, and amazing lovers but they need time to feel sorry for themselves, ignore them while being supportive and dont take any sh*t from them.

I'm not dating a cap for the record, a SCORP! I have met & had conversations with cap males lately, and just am curious as to how they are - I have never really known any cap before - male or female.

ROFL!!!! twisted!! Is this a complex you have? Yikes! Oh man.

So I guess you don't care much for caps, eh? I had always thot they were boring, but the ones I've met lately seem really cool & easy to talk to, and kinda daredevils in some form. It's always good to know a little about a sign before getting to know each other too much, just so you can be warned and watch for their evil signals. haha - I have no intentions of anything romantic anyways, so that's not my concern. It just doesn't hurt to have friends of all signs & to understand where their coming from.

My advice is unless you are one tough cookie stay away from Capricorn men. They get a hold on you and they are hard to shake, I dont know about all cappies but mine is very passionate and curious and game to try anything. He is deep and shy, and was a great friend, now as a lover/boyfriend he is still great...when we are together, once we are apart I have no idea. They roam around in a detached kind of manner pretending not to care but the problem is that they really do care, too much...

That is why aquarius and capricorns dont end up together, the capricorn knows that he can't control her...he also likes things that are tangible and predictable to some extent, you would probably scare the heck out of him. Capricorn men and woman are a little different, the men tend to be much better in bed and struggle with depression, where the woman are open and loving but said to be rather cold lovers, or not as sensual....? I think I said before the man tend to talk with their bodies, if they love you or care about you they will show you in the bedroom, which can be rather confusing for us ladies.

So far they sound good to me (caps). I'm in a scorp relationship now, but it's tough to see where it's going. He's sweet & so good to me and very hot, but he's a couple years younger and he seems to not be that concerned about future (like his), and it's such a change up for me. All my other exes were 5-12 years older than me. This is something I am having a hard time adjusting to. Maybe it's mismatched, I dunno. It says short term all over it even though I would never want to not know him. I hate dating aleady. I honestly think I am best & happist single. Any taurus women feel the same?

Yikes, that sounded bad what I wrote, I don't know where I was going with that. opps

Again, this is my fear of commitment syndrome. Where is everyone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't wanna talk to myself!

Good luck OFA! ...never know until you try.

taurusgoddess,

I'm a taurus also and I tend to feel the same about relationships that you do. I think I'm honestly better off single, where I can date around (not for long term) because I have a very short attention span, especially when the guy is really clingy, too nice, or is overly caring. Most of the guys I've dated in the past have been how I just described. But now I'm seeing a cap and he's the total opposite, and I'm probably being how those guys were to me. I guess I'm getting a dose of my own medicine.

Anyhow, I dated a scorp for 4 years. It was a good relationship, well actually it was perfect. If I would have been in a better place at the time and ready for the final (marriage) then I would still be with him right now. He was just at a different spot in his life. He wasn't overly suffocating, but he wasn't so much of a challenge as the Cap is either. Now I'm starting to miss that relationship just thinking about it.

I don't really know if I'm scared of relationships or what. But it seems when I find a great guy (no matter what sign) who is nice, caring, sweet, I just get turned off by him. Like it's too easy or something. Sometimes I think I have issues! LOL...I could! Anyhow, this Cap guy I really like right now, but this is just making me think I want to be single for the rest of my life. Who knows!

MyCap

I am a taurus as well, i dated a scorp, he was perfect, but I was too young. they are nice guys, not push overs, but not jerky. I think its a good match. I agree with Mycap, I need a challenge otherwise I get bored way too fast. My advice to OFA is watch out for the Cappy, they can change suddenly without warning, more so than any guys/signs I have ever dated. Once they start to feel themselves falling they pull back hard....so just be prepared for some weirdness and also they tend to mask it with dry humor or just awefully mean words. The first month I was a doormat and let him say things, then I was pissed off, (dont piss off a bull) and called him on it....well he was so respectful after that. So again be direct and to the point and don't carry on or shout, just say "hey that isn't cool," They will listen believe me.

Wheretomylady,

I agree....never, ever piss off a bull...we can get mean!!

Wheretomylady, you nailed it and I tried to post that very same thing to OFA earlier today but website wasn't functioning right... That her Cap. may be very attentive and in regular contact right now, but to watch out, because this will likely change and there's HELL to come! LOL-- OFA, I advise to remain or appear aloof as long as possible, bc. like "Lady" said, once they see you responding or see that you care and/or once they start to fall, the "honeymoon" phase is over and they get very frustrating to deal with!!

MyCap, you freaked me out! You sound like me to a T. I was convincing myself I am just meeting the wrong people, but have now FINALLY concluded that I have commitment-issue syndrome. I've met some awesome people in my life and just dissappear or get turned off when things get too close, yet when I need that closeness there is nothing but A $ $ holes. haha, let's call it karma? I keep telling myself, stay, relax, -like this scorp is great to me, but another side is pulling me away with force. What is it?

Have you ever considered that maybe it just wasn't right? If you run away then maybe that's where you don't belong and your soul just knows it? I don't know, but truth be told, I am a pretty happy single person

OFA, what the H? You aquas pull away & dissapear without warning too!!! Trust me, I know that very well. Where do you guys connect the most? What is the aqua-cap attraction? Your hotness? 😉 hehe

Man, all this talk about angry bulls, I haven't seen red in awhile, I miss it, kinda fun sometimes! lol

taurusgoddess,

I guess when I do pull away and just disappear then I guess it's not meant to be and that maybe my soul does know it? Because I can walk away and not feel one single bit of regret from it. Who knows really? But it's just how I feel at the time. But ur right, when we want someone all we run into are a#@holes...been there, done that a few times!

pathfinder,

My Cap does not know about my previous situations and how I've pull away from those men. He did mention to me a couple weekends ago how he has had long term relationships in the past, have cared about a few women tremendously, would bend over backwards for them, and in return he got his heartbroken. I never gave him signs that I would do this, as I've cared a lot about him and have stuck through most of his "moments". We are not currently together right now, so we are far from exclusive at this point. At one point we were heading there tho, but now we are nothing, well except I still see him some, but it doesn't look as if we are going to get back together. That seems like just wishful thinking to me at the moment as of getting back together.

This morning we were texting, and I just had a feeling that he's been out on a date or something. So I asked him and he said yes that he had been on one date, but that it was no big deal...ok, what's that mean? Then he said she asked him. I told him that he should be the one to take the initiative in things, he never did with me. Then he told me that I should take my own advice. What's that mean, should I have initiated more when I was with him? He never initiated a lot of things, and neither did I, so therefore nothing was done. I guess him going out proves to me that he doesn't plan on getting back together with me or has moved on. Wouldn't u think that? My whole reasoning behind questioning him about going out with others is because I dont want to still be seeing him every once in a while if he is. I won't do that.

MyCap,

It looks to me that you want to get back together with this man because at one point you were ?together?. I don?t know what stage you were in the relationship, but it sounds like maybe it was ?understood? by both of you that it was an exclusive relationship? At any rate, considering the last line of your post, you want to take your relationship with him to that ?exclusive? level, right?

If he told you that the date he had was ?no big deal?, you can believe it. If he told you that she asked him, believe it. If he said to you that you should take your own advice about taking the initiative, believe it. If I didn?t ask cappy out, I don?t know if we would go out unless we were invited to a party or a special event. They like to go out, but being at home is just fine with them.

His going on a date does not prove that there is no chance of reconciliation with you. He is still responding to you so that is good. When he told you to take your own advice, that was your cue to say, ?ok, let?s do such and such.? It sounds to me that he still wants to see you.

If you want an exclusive relationship with this man, you will need to tell him that is what you want. You don?t have to be afraid, it sounds like you have been through a lot together and have reached this comfort level to speak to each other from the heart. To do this, I would ask him out for whatever, (because this needs to be done in person so that there is no time lapse), and I would let him know that I want an exclusive relationship with him because I don?t want him dating anyone but me. Then hear what he has to say.

Your cap does not appear that he will beat around the bush. You have asked him direct questions about his dating and he told you. He has also told you to take your own advice about taking the initiative. Do it.

You can get to the bottom of this, MyCap. 🙂

pathfinder,

At least u reassured me a little bit. But right now I think he is seeing this chick a lot.

I was thinking he meant that I should take the initiative with asking him out when he said to take my own advice, but then again why would he really want me to ask him if he's seeing other ppl now? I guess I just look at it as that he should ask me if he's telling me that I should take the initiative if he really wanted to see me.

Yes he does respond to me still. I think that if he didn't care, he just wouldn't respond at all. He's done that before. I'm just really confused right now about the whole deal on what to do or where to go from here. I'm scared, I can honestly say. The one thing I know about this man is that he's extremely, extremely honest no matter if the answer was to hurt me or not. And he doesn't lie, or at least not that I know of.

We r at a comfort level and I need to tell him that I want to be exclusive with him. I guess I'm the type of person who just thinks ppl can read my mind or something. I thought he could tell by my actions at least. I guess i just need to speak up and tell him.

I don't know if I can get to the bottom of this. I have my mind pulling myself in all different directions on what to do.

OFA-- "Frustrating" as in they disappear and go MIA, and you cannnot get them to come out (respond to your msgs.) until they're ready... And I'm not just talking a couple/few days.

I was married to an Aquarius... And my mom and dad are Cap/Aquarius. There is some attraction there for me personally, to Aquarius men, but I've learned to avoid them now if I can. My ex-husband was too cold and aloof, unaffectionate, and to me, Aquarius men are just odd/strange, my dad excluded of course although I think he's got some Pisces (moon or venus) helping him out!

MyCap,

I feel you on your being afraid and that he should be the one to make the moves. I would just approach it differently now, especially since he told you how to approach him. Take the initiative. You want an exclusive relationship with him. At this point, you have no "dating" relationship with him at all, it's just a friendship. A powerful position to be in, btw. Once you decide to take the chance (even if you are still afraid), what I would do is ask him out for coffee (not dinner, which usually implies possible sex afterwards). Get to your comfort level in the conversation then tell him that you would like to start seeing him again. But as much as you want to see him, you will not date him if he is dating other women. Continue on letting him about why you want the
exclusive relationship -- as much as you feel comfortable telling him.

Then wait to see what he says.

pathfinder,

well i had a little bit of a change now. i texted with him last nite, he was with that girl again last nite before he texted me back and it just kind of got to me and i just cant hang on anymore, not since he's seein this girl. he said the date was not a big deal, so why is he now seeing her again, obviously it was a big deal.

so i pretty much told him that i wish him well, he said merry christmas, and that was it. i guess we r never to talk again? I guess he got what he wanted. He chatted with me last nite like it wasnt a big deal, but he's seeing her, not me. I dont know why he wants to continue talking/seein me if he's with her? So I just said goodbye and I guess I have to go on...without him. NOt what I want tho.

MyCap,

Has he told you he doesn't want to see you anymore?

pathfinder,

no the last thing I said is "I wish u well"...he replied "Merry christmas" and that was the end of the conversation and haven't heard from or talked to him since...

Why u asking?

MyCap~

I don't know how long you've been involved with this Cap. but it doesn't sound like that long... If you're approaching this from understanding it from a Capricorn male's ways, then what he's doing is just 'par for the course.' To expect and get exclusivity and commitment from him this early on is pretty unusual and unlikely. You'll be put through the gamut of tests first to assure him of your loyalty and devotion. I'm surprised he didn't play this "date" off as 'just a friend' which is so very typical w/ these guys. They have female friends; whether they're truly just friends is another matter, but again, this is just typical w/ Cap. males.

Now I assume you're looking to understand him from an astrology perspective since you're on this Board. But if not, then most people would say to forget him and move on, since he's openly dating another and not chasing after you.

Bottomline is-- if you want this guy, it's not going to be smooth-sailing; he won't hand himself over to you on your terms and timeline.

CapGirl,

I was with Cap for 7 mos. I guess I have no choice now but to move on and forget him. I still want him of course, but I don't think chasing after him at this point will do any good.

pathfinder,

As of right now I don't even know if he wants me back. I want him back, but what if I contact him and ask him out and then he refuses? Then I'm back to square one with having to move on from him again. Yes he did still respond to me, but it's almost as if I want him to figure out what "he" wants. I know what "I" want. I want him to be happy. Maybe that's me being stupid. It all comes down to the fact that I'm scared.

I've always went after what Ive wanted and have always gotten it when I did. This is the one person where I've actually just sort of given up on, and I don't know why. As u can tell I'm really confused right now. So many different scenarios are going thru my head at this time....do I wait and contact him, do I contact him now or not at all? I just don't know. Usually i kind of have an intuition about things, but this time I dont.

MyCap,

It's okay to be afraid, just don't let it immobilize you. I would listen to Pathfinder, if I were you. What she says makes a lot of sense. Besides, nothing beats a try but a failure. You never what he might say until you ask.

Since he's a Cappy, he has a birthday coming up. You could start by asking him what he's doing for his birthday and take it from there. I would even have a plan in my in case he has no plans. they love it when people remember their birthday.

If he says this date with this other woman was no big deal, believe him. He is not married to her so in my opinion she is no factor. You do have to let him no where you stand on this issue, though. If you want an exclusive relationship with him, make that clear. I hit my Cap on the head on this--he knows without a doubt that I don't play that sh-t. Period. If your Cap wants you he WILL go along with your program. Trust me.

Follow your heart. This is the rule I now live by.

Pathfinder was on the money. No harm in trying. Who knows, this guy could turn out to be the love of your life. Are you going to let him get away?

virgo lady,

I sent him an email, I know it's a chicken way to do it. But I was even scared to send that. I did, and told him how I felt. Now we'll see if he replies...if not then it wasnt meant to be...

you really encouraged me to tell him...if i didnt I may have lost the one person I truly care about

CapGirl,

No one blames or faults you for being scared or doing it by email. I've done the same myself in similar situations. I hope this works out for you. We're all pulling for you!

MyCap,

Email is fine. This way he has it in writing. In your email did you ask him to call you? Your email mail have surprised him. Caps are not the best communicators, so even if he doesn't call you right away, don't give up. Keep hope alive.

Besides, there are all kinds of reasons why a man doesn't call right away--he could be sick, busy, dealing with a critical family matter, etc.

And remember, you can always call him.

Capgirl,

I'm so glad u guys are backing me up...Im hoping for the best, but really expecting the worst...I know I need to be positive and have hope. I told him a lot in that email (it was very long).

Virgolady,

I'm sure my email will shock him. I've only sent him one email in the past 7 mos...all the other stuff was thru text messages and calls...And also it will shock him because I'm sure he's not expecting to hear from me since what happened on Mon and Tues...No I didnt tell him to call me. Well in a way I did. At the end of the email I asked him out to dinner or such and told him to let me know. I'm not expecting an immediate response of any kind. As I did send it to his work email and he's not working this week. So I dont know if he will check it before Monday, if not then that's ok.

I'm hoping I can get thru this, I miss him a lot and am just hoping that he's willing to meet and start over. We'll see

Thanks for all the support ladies. I need all the hope and advice I can get in dealing with the "Cappie"...they are bugers!!

MyCap,

I have my fingers crossed for you! These feral capricorns are tough, I have just discovered something about mine that I didn't know before, He is total pushover, before I was afraid to push, now he loves it and totally caves! What a novel concept...for all you ladies trying to "tame" a cap this took me three months and 100 gray hairs and an ulcer and 10 pounds lost and millions of calls to friends....but whew...it was worth it! Good luck Mycap!

Thanks...

Ok ladies, listen to this...the chick that he is seeing is the same one that asked him to the concert two sunday nites ago....see two saturday nites ago he and I were still together, but i heard some stuff that nite about the fact that he was with someone else so I went to his house, confronted him bout it and he said that he's been at home, which I found out that he had been....ok well that same sat nite he told me that this chick, whom he said was just a 'friend' had asked him to go to a concert with her that sunday nite...just as friends...I was ok with it...and he actually ended up asking me to stay with him that sat nite I confronted him...well now that's the chick that he's seeing...how shady...she was supposedly just a 'friend'

Now I regret sending that darn email today.

What am I to do now?

MyCap~

I knew he would refer to her as "just a friend" at some point. It probably is true. You did what you had to do, with the email you sent. It's better for some people to play it straight and just put it out there. I did the same w/ the Cap. male I was involved with off and on for a year-- sent him an email basically telling him the same, that I wanted to date him and wanted a relationship. So, don't regret putting yourself out there.

Have you seen this other girl? I had the chance to meet/see one of my Cap.'s "friends" and it confirmed for me that she probably was just that- a friend, and if it was more, then he was just settling and biding his time.

CapGirl,

I just kind of feel dumb now for sending that email and spilling all my feelings to him when he's spending time with this other girl. Maybe I shouldn't, but I do. No, I have not seen this other girl. Maybe he's just biding his time, I don't know. Why does he refer to her as only a "friend". I never got that part of it. I'm just scared as to if he will reply to the email today or just let it go.

What did urs do after you sent him that email?

Well Suprise, Suprise...

He hasn't replied to my email. These Caps just kill me!

MyCap--

It hasn't been very long though since you sent it. These guys like to let things simmer and think things over before responding, I do know that. You had dated for 7 months?

I hate to tell you my story, bc. I don't want to "jinx" yours or make you feel unnecessarily bad... But we could end up commiserating if need be. I'd known my Cap. male for a year, w/ a really weird history though, of dating/hanging out alot in the beginning, going head-to-head and "locking horns" frequently. It was really messy and never a relationship. I got tired of not knowing what he wanted, so I slowly put myself out there... Told him I was in love with him (in a text msg!). I thought he'd run and that I wouldn't hear from him then, but he called - 5 days later- which was not really that long of a delay for him. It'd usually taken him a week to respond to major stuff. Anyway, fast-forwarding ahead, that confession still didn't clear much up between us; I'll blame that in part on both of us being shy. So, after still playing games and just beating around the bush back and forth for a couple months, I emailed him and very short and sweet just said that I wanted to date him and wanted a potential relationship and needed to know what he was looking for bc. I was still guessing. I kept it friendly and positive, and told him to call or IM me if he wanted to talk. And... that was 10 weeks ago. : I I called him once, texted him and IM, within those past 10 weeks, and he wouldn't respond. It sucks. I'm pissed. Ran into him a few weeks ago and he was flirty, friendly and staring and trying to get my attention but I just ignored him.

I think he's a player and/or a serious commitment phobe though. Every man IS different, even if they are Capricorns. So, don't base your situation on my tragic ending!

My advice at this point would be NOT to contact him again in any form. That is all I regret if anything... was the 3 subsequent attempts to get him to talk and then to lash out a bit. I was really trying to make it easier for him and to break the ice, but feel foolish for that, if I feel foolish for anything. You said what you needed to tell him, he knows now, and I'd try not to make yourself any more available to him at this point.

Something I have learned to accept from being with mycappy is "action speak louder than words", if you want words from a man, you might not want to date a Capricorn. They like to talk through touching and by doing nice thoughtful things, they are very shy and cowardly about sharing their feelings verbally. Bottomline you have to change cause they sure aren't: I have learned that silence can be pretty intense/pleasurable, and if you give in a little, they will too. It is pretty common for Cappies and Tauruses to struggle over control for the first couple months.

Thanks ladies and also thanks for sharing your story CapGirl, even though I'm sorry how its turning out. I guess I'll wait it out, but heck he's seeing another woman so I'm sure the email won't even phase him or he'll just read it and won't give it any thought. I mean, I guarantee he still has feelings for me because of the fact that he replied to my texts and was still communicating with me, but I just don't understand the part of him seeing other people. I guess some things you just don't understand, but I'm not going to stress about it. You're right CapGirl, I don't need to contact him anymore. The email was the last thing I sent and that's all he's going to hear from me again unless he contacts me. So needless to say, I'll probably never talk to him again. Now that I'm out of this 'relationship' with him I almost feel a some sort of a relief; as being with him was always drama, always trying to figure out what he was thinking, feeling, etc. or if next week he was going to isolate himself, or spend a lot of time with me, I was always thinking and worrying when I was with him, but I stayed and held out because I felt he was worth it. I believe he still is though.

I guess we'll see.

I don't know how these guys think they can not respond to and remain silent on something major like this. It's one think to be reserved and hold back at times, but when someone entrusts you with their feelings and makes themself vulnerable to you, it is totally rude in my eyes not to acknowledge them somehow. I'd have had more respect for my Cap. if he'd just emailed back that he wasn't ready to get back into anything serious. We could still be on decent terms today. But to totally refuse to say anything, it's like he's screaming at me with his silence that he doesn't take me serious or care at all, or that he's just been playing me all along and is still trying to.

Sorry to vent. I hope you get a response. It makes NO sense to me, if you don't. (I wouldn't give that much credit to this other woman friend who's in the picture, i.e. don't think that he's not responding bc. of her. These guys don't fall that hard that fast to where they feel loyalty to any one woman without some serious time involved (years).)

CapGirl,

Yeah I don't understand either why yours would just not respond to you. All they have to do is just reply and tell us how they feel (whether good/bad), but I guess to them it's easier to not reply and go on with their lives than to deal with it. They have some sort of issue with that. They could just be respectful, but that's asking too much I guess. But 'we' have to be respectful to them though or they lose respect for us, go figure.

I hope he replies to me. For all I know he could still be on vacation, and hasn't even checked the email yet. Who knows. I hope I don't have to worry about this new woman. He seems to be spending a lot of time with her.

I have found that cappies don't do well with email, I think they are afraid that it will get printed out or forwarded to someone else, they are pretty private people. I used to email my cappy and he never emailed back but he will and txt.

Have you tried a face to face? I think this is the best method, you get them cornered and talk to them, they respond well to straight forward traditional communication. So bottom line girls don't sweat it if they haven't emailed back, it just isnt their bag.

Wheretomylady,

Um, I find it kind of difficult on my part to pick up the phone or text him and ask him for a face to face. I feel as if I will interfere with his so called 'friend' that he has right now. Even tho CapGirl told me to not worry about her, I'm still scared of, I guess, contacting him and asking him and then in reply him tell me that he's moving on with this girl. It would be a nightmare for him to tell me that, even tho he'd be being honest with me. Maybe I shouldn't think negatively, but I am. If I don't get any sort of reply from him on his part, whether it be via email, phone or text then I guess I will move on with my life, as hard as it has been and will be to do.

mmm, my cappy went home for xmas and I know he has a 'friend'. He makes it appear as if there is more but I know they are just friends and he is trying to get a start out of me, I look at my watch or act bored when he mentions her. I do however know that she is after him, she even sent him a christmas card, emails him and calls him all the time. Of course he responds to her emails because as we know capricorn men tend to make really good/close/intimate friends but shut down the second they enter relationships. So I am interested if your cappy is just hanging out with this girl as a friend, they do tend to have many women friends. I know a cappy whose bestman at his wedding was a woman, and he's not hurting for male friends.

In my heart I feel like this guy is going to come back to you one way or another he is just being a capricorn. I don't know if I told you this before but if I wasn't calling my cappy all the time and planning fun things to do we would NEVER be where we are now. I had to suck up a lot of pride and go against the advice of many friends, who were urging me to dump him or to wait for him to call. If you want him you have to work hard, its sucks for woman like us, who could have pretty much any man we want...

Wheretomylady,

I had to do, also, a lot of the things you mentioned you doing, i.e. calling, texting him. It was amazing at first, or rather shocking, to me that he didn't call/text me all the time. As I've said before I have been always used to a guy taking the control in that area and asking me out, or to go and do things with him. These Caps want 'us' to take the initiative on that part. I didn't know that until it was too late. I was lost and trying to figure him out so much that by the time I did it was over and I had already blew it.

Just one question to you, wheretomylady, why do you have this feeling that he will come back to me? I don't know if he's just hanging out with this new girl or not? They do seem to have a lot more female friends, than male friends, which never bothered me.

I don't know what to do at this point. I've already took the initiative in emailing him, telling him how I feel, and haven't heard back. For some reason, I keep telling myself that I can't give up on this one. I don't know whether I should wait a while (after the holidays, at least) and then contact him or what.

Any advice? Thanks.

MyCap~~ He could be mentioning that girl partly to 'get your goat' (hehe- pun), to raise your interest level. Mine had told me about having dinner w/ a girls' parents and buying her a damm Tiffany's bracelet for her bday but downplayed it as not serious. I was like, what are you doing calling me?? I now am pretty sure that it's this woman who's 9 yrs. older than him, whom he's known a year. I finally saw her, and was laughing inside.

When is your Cap.'s bday? Maybe wait till then, if it hasn't passed which it should not have as we're just getting into Cap. zone. That would give you a perfect, non-pressure way to give it another attempt. Make it a phone call.

These guys are confusing though, as far as initiating and wanting to be pursued, bc. in the beginning, they are the pursuers... which makes you believe that they've lost interest later when they pull back.

Wheretomylady makes interesting points...

CapGirl,

His bday has not passed yet...it's the 17th...and Im so glad that that will give me an opportunity (reason) to contact him...should I make it a phone call or just stick to a text message? I don't know which would be best?

See mine was a pursuer in the beginning and that's what started to confuse me when he wasn't pursuing me anymore, I guess I was supposed to know that he wanted me to start pursuing, then again if he doesn't communicate how am I to know? I can't read minds!

I think he really expected a rise out of me since he knows that I know that he's seeing this other woman. Suprisingly, I was calm about it. Yeah, it does hurt of course, but I don't want him to know that. I'm sure he's shocked that I'm not trying twice as hard to get him since i know this. So I don't really know what he's thinking at this moment. Maybe he's not even thinking about me at all?

Why do they only refer to these women as 'friends'...I don't get that part? See mine was still texting me and replying to me after he had started seeing this woman; actually I even went to his house again after he had already been out with her once. How stupid was I? Then I told him I couldn't see/talk to him anymore if he was seeing others. That's when the communication stopped.

Oh...this is so frustrating...I wish it could all be back to the way it was.