I need career advice!! (Page 2)

Posted by Greentea

Posted by Sssupes
Since when have you ever run from a challenge? You love a good workplace challenge and you won't be bored. You got this

If the pay and incentives matched the challenge then it would he worth it. You're talking about Caps here. We're not gonna deal with bullshit if it don't pay.

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Yea yea yea! It's all about the Benjamin's baby!

Honestly, I don't see the benefit, 8k more doesn't seem worth the struggle. Now if they bumped that to 20k (they'll probably meet around 15k) and a promise of management within the next year, then it would probably be worth it. I'd negotiate a bit more, what do you have to lose?... they came to you.

I did tell them how much I wanted to make it worth my while. They said they just can't do it. Algorithms and taking into consideration what other staff makes. It leaves me with the impression that the pay scale is lower and that's why the staff is a mess. They can't attract quality people because they're not able to pay for it. Which is probably why they're looking for a partner/buyer. It's a healthcare system and supposedly the facility has a good reputation for patient care. So, they probably spend their dollars on patient care staff. I'm part of the revenue cycle, but come on, revenue is important!! It's your financial bread and butter. However, many administrators don't see it that way. They see it as more support staff. Which it is, but the revenue team is what drives your income.

Just my impression.

I've been in management roles before. If I were 30, I'd be jumping at the chance to build the resume. At 48, I've got tons of experience they need and gaining more experience and using that experience is always good for the career. However, I'm kind of ready to settle. I'm tired of chasing the career path. I kind of want to live the quality of life being at home gives me. That's why I'm reluctant to give up the at-home situation. But, as a capricorn, I'm not sure I'd be happy not chasing that title. 🙂

You all have excellent points.

And yes, cheeky, everytime I make a decision, I keep bringing up a "pro" of taking it. That's why I'm so back and forth.

Posted by Greentea
Honestly, I don't see the benefit, 8k more doesn't seem worth the struggle. Now if they bumped that to 20k (they'll probably meet around 15k) and a promise of management within the next year, then it would probably be worth it. I'd negotiate a bit more, what do you have to lose?... they came to you.

Yep, I agree with you. I just don't think they can bump it that high. But, I will try to negotiate further.

And it's already a management position. If the Director retires, then I could go for her job. I don't think she's all that much older than me though.

I would take it for the chance of climbing. Never stagnate. Even though you "break even" now, you have a chance of going up whereas now you are for sure stagnating.

Damn, they're having financial trouble?....do you think you'll even have a job with them in the years to come?

Posted by Greentea
Damn, they're having financial trouble?....do you think you'll even have a job with them in the years to come?

See, that's a point I've considered. Where I'm at now, they aren't going anywhere. If anything, they're getting bigger.

This is just my opinion, not fact, but Healthcare was the last industry to suffer from the recession and are still suffering today and will for some time to come. We got the domino effect of Obama Care. Sure, more people have insurance, but the insurance doesn't pay much because they insist on too much of a "discount" and patient deductibles are higher now than ever. A lot of companies that offered good health insurance as a benefit have decided it was cheaper to drop health insurance because it has become unaffordable for them to provide. A company might have had good coverage with a low deductible, but because of Obamacare the insurance carrier dropped those plans because they can get by with less coverage at a higher cost, which makes them money. That's the domino effect of what Obamacare did to the healthcare industry. People used to have company insurance that had a $ 1000 deductible and paid 80/20, healthcare was surviving very well. Now, under Obamacare, people's insurance deductibles are $ 2000-3000 and we end up having to get money from the patient - who doesn't have it - instead of the guaranteed payment from the insurance company. There are actually more defaults on bills now than there was five years ago.

Only the large hospital systems are surviving. It is rare to find a private self sufficient hospital anymore. The big organizations can get massive discounts on quantity of supplies and medications and ship them out to various hospitals in their organization, whereas the smaller ones are paying higher prices for these things. That is another reason they are looking for a buyer/partner.

*steps off soap box*

but, yeah, if they do get a buyer/partner, will they re-engineer the staff and do away with this job? A very big point to consider. They're telling me it won't affect it, but how do they know?

Posted by rabidtalker
I would take it for the chance of climbing. Never stagnate. Even though you "break even" now, you have a chance of going up whereas now you are for sure stagnating.

I agree with that and it's one reason why I've considered taking it. Like I said, if I were 30, it would be a no brainer. But at my age....I'm not sure I want to go higher. I've been higher and it is a lot of headache and a lot of responsibility. I don't mind that now if I'm paid for it.

this is such a capricorn thread. the long list of pros and cons lol

i understand that you are at the stage of your life where quality of life is important and you may not want to chase a higher position. i guess it'd also depend on when you plan to retire and whether job security is a priority. if you have 10+ years before retirement, it'd be a very long time to stay stagnant and feel bored / unhappy at the current position. if job security is not a priority, i'd go for something that makes me feel alive. you only live once and i bet you look and feel young so you might as well live young lol

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Posted by Greentea
Damn, they're having financial trouble?....do you think you'll even have a job with them in the years to come?

See, that's a point I've considered. Where I'm at now, they aren't going anywhere. If anything, they're getting bigger.

This is just my opinion, not fact, but Healthcare was the last industry to suffer from the recession and are still suffering today and will for some time to come. We got the domino effect of Obama Care. Sure, more people have insurance, but the insurance doesn't pay much because they insist on too much of a "discount" and patient deductibles are higher now than ever. A lot of companies that offered good health insurance as a benefit have decided it was cheaper to drop health insurance because it has become unaffordable for them to provide. A company might have had good coverage with a low deductible, but because of Obamacare the insurance carrier dropped those plans because they can get by with less coverage at a higher cost, which makes them money. That's the domino effect of what Obamacare did to the healthcare industry. People used to have company insurance that had a $ 1000 deductible and paid 80/20, healthcare was surviving very well. Now, under Obamacare, people's insurance deductibles are $ 2000-3000 and we end up having to get money from the patient - who doesn't have it - instead of the guaranteed payment from the insurance company. There are actually more defaults on bills now than there was five years ago.

Only the large hospital systems are surviving. It is rare to find a private self sufficient hospital anymore. The big organizations can get massive discounts on quantity of supplies and medications and ship them out to various hospitals in their organization, whereas the smaller ones are paying higher prices for these things. That is another reason they are looking for a buyer/partner.

*steps off soap box*

but, yeah, if they do get a buyer/partner, will they re-engineer the staff and do away with this job? A very big point to consider. They're telling me it won't affect it, but how do they know?

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That would be my main concern at this point. What's the point of a title and pay raise if the stability may not he there a couple years down the road. I'd rather stay where I'm at and go for a management down the line, as the company grows. That's just my POV, obviously we'll be happy for you whichever route you decide to go.

They just called me. I told them it would cost me money to take that job. So they called back and offered me a little bit more. I told them I would discuss it with my fiance and let them know tomorrow. . If I can get them up $ 2000 more, I'm taking it. 🙂

Seems like they're playing ball and offering up $ 2000 at a time. It's a poker match! lol!

Posted by ElleDuMonde

Posted by truecap
They just called me. I told them it would cost me money to take that job. So they called back and offered me a little bit more. I told them I would discuss it with my fiance and let them know tomorrow. . If I can get them up $ 2000 more, I'm taking it. 🙂

Seems like they're playing ball and offering up $ 2000 at a time. It's a poker match! lol!

😄

I live for that kind of stuff.

#scorpiolyfe

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I hate it. lol!!


I got encouraged by you and a lot of others not to settle for less than I want.