How do Gemini's own up to responsibility

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Say, if a gemini does or says something and fails in doing what they are responsible for...how does a gemini handle this?

My experience in work and relationships, is that they try to distract the situation so that the one holding to their responsibility gets side tracked from the issue at hand. Or they place blame elsewhere and don't own up to their own actions.

Just curious as to how the rest of you would handle it.

Here's an example:

My contractor is a gem. Yesterday, the crew didn't get the job finished because they had run out of glue. Tried to call the contractor but he didn't answer the phone. Showed up at the job 3 hours later.
I confronted him and was upset the job didn't get done because it was up to him to provide them the materials they needed, now the job is a day late gettting done and I wasn't happy.
Not once did he own up to his lacking of management - just told me what could be done to fix it (which is fine, but at least admit you failed).
Maybe I was too hard on him and put him on the defense. But, in my lil ole cap opinion, all materials should have been calculated for and provided before the job began.

Don't know if I'm just venting or need answers. But, how am I supposed to have faith this job is going to go well.
Crew chief is a Cancer and seems reliable. But it's the contractor who's responsible.

Any input?
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Lord, projection much...Just solve all your problems already. Don't hire a gemini, don't talk to a gemini don't speak to a gemini and don't listen to a gemini ever again since they all fall short of your expectations.

There, problem solved and you'll never have to worry about anything again and if there ever was a mistake made by someone other than yourself I'm sure they will beg your forgiveness accept all responsibility regardless. Feel better...

I understand your frustration with the job not getting done within a given time, but seriously because he's a gemini it makes it that much worse and makes the man untrustworthy—?? ..............r e a c h i n g !

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Posted by gemeliorist
Lord, projection much...Just solve all your problems already. Don't hire a gemini, don't talk to a gemini don't speak to a gemini and don't listen to a gemini ever again since they all fall short of your expectations.

There, problem solved and you'll never have to worry about anything again and if there ever was a mistake made by someone other than yourself I'm sure they will beg your forgiveness accept all responsibility regardless. Feel better...

I understand your frustration with the job not getting done within a given time, but seriously because he's a gemini it makes it that much worse and makes the man untrustworthy—?? ..............r e a c h i n g !
All I asked was how other gems would handle the situation.
What I gather from your statement is he wasn't to blame. That my perception is off.
I never said he wasn't trustworthy. I said failure to admit fault makes me begin to lose trust. Not the same thing.
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Posted by LittleStar
Why is this a Gemini problem?

I apologize when I do wrong, but if someone is critical just for the sake of making me feel bad about something I will tune them out. After a mistake happens it's done, so there really isn't anything to be done but fix it.

Sometimes things come up outside of what was planned, but that is life. Maybe instead of saying he's a bad contractor because his team didn't have enough glue, you should realize that you too, can't handle something happening out of your control. Both people have been let down but there is nothing to be solved by placing blame in on area or another because the situation has already happened.
I'm just asking to see how other gems would respond in the situation.

I didn't say he was a bad contractor, but I did question the management factor.

If your boss didn't supply you with the materials to do your job, would you have a lower opinion of his bossy duties?
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Posted by Stihl46
That sounds like a Gemini I know a few my father is one they like to blame everybody else.
So it's not just me that notices this trait.
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I've noticed this trait especially with a Gemini guy I worked with he would always say not my fault my father is the same, not sure what it is but they can't accept blame and they are always trying to pass the buck. You confront them on something they get really defensive that's when you see them go into overdrive trying to claim they didn't do it.
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Posted by Stihl46
That sounds like a Gemini I know a few my father is one they like to blame everybody else.
Yeah we blame everyone else when we have already analyzed the situation 5x over in the matter of a minute and are crystal clear on our gut feeling and the other person takes a day to realize they were somehow at fault and refuse to see it (often a communication issue) and you want to place the blame on us simply for the convenience. You then argue the whole "responsibility" clause thinking you will manipulate us. Wrong. You get what you get with a Gemini and you get treated double in return what you give to us. I have no problem correcting my mistake or admitting when I have made a boo boo, but I will not put up with a crap packing attitude and nastiness and I certainly do not accept wrong doing unless you can clearly explain and prove to me what I did wrong.
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Posted by gemeliorist
Lord, projection much...Just solve all your problems already. Don't hire a gemini, don't talk to a gemini don't speak to a gemini and don't listen to a gemini ever again since they all fall short of your expectations.

There, problem solved and you'll never have to worry about anything again and if there ever was a mistake made by someone other than yourself I'm sure they will beg your forgiveness accept all responsibility regardless. Feel better...

I understand your frustration with the job not getting done within a given time, but seriously because he's a gemini it makes it that much worse and makes the man untrustworthy—?? ..............r e a c h i n g !
So true.
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Cap sun with a gem moon and rising here.

Personally, when I pay someone to do a job, I actually expect them to do it according to contract. Silly me. And this is even an on-going project. If she can't trust him now, how is this looking for the future of the project? Throwing fits won't help, agreed, but adressing the issue is, imo, necessary for the sake of the on-going project. He is not doing her a favor - she is paying him to do a job.

And if you make a mistake, the least you can do is owning up to it - it's not that difficult.

I don't know if it is specifically a gem trait to look the other way when you're at fault for something. I know two gems who fit that description somewhat, but the other two do not, so according to my experiance it's not specifically a gem trait, but i don't know.